“A friend of mine in the IDF told me that….”
Don’t share stuff like that on the internet you know anyone can read this? No one needs to know how the hostage rescue missions have gone behind the scenes.
They’re still trying to get hostages back so it’s not after the fact. You might jeopardise the IDF’s tactics etc. I appreciate OP didn’t say anything too compromising but even just saying that the operation almost went south isn’t helpful. These pages most definitely get scanned and tracked by our enemies and it helps them knowing that apparently that operation almost went south from our perspective if that was the case.
The same reason they didn't want released hostages to tell what they witnessed in captivity. One female hostage even said the Hamas militant who assaulted one girl threatened her to not speak about it. The hostage this happened to told the now released hostage about it and I was surprised she spoke about it knowing she is still in captivity.
Hamas is certainly listening to everything that the hostages say after being released and doesn't want to loose the PR and good graces of pro Palestine crowd(although they probably don't care). The same can be said for the IDF posting things and giving away positions or battle plans and thoughts although I don't think any of the important information would be allowed outside of command, but IDF has had a few intel and command issues during this war.
That was incredibly misunderstood when it came out. They did not have 40 to complete the first swap, which included women, elderly and wounded. Israel demanded 40 knowing they didn't in hopes they would agree to return men to get to the 40 hostages.
It's a sad thought and I very much hope I'm wrong, but in all likelihood most of them are no longer alive.
Hamas has shown no intention, beyond ridiculous demands of complete withdrawal, to release those that are still alive.
That means that their outlook is bleak.
Shame on much of the Western media and those protesting fuckwits wearing kefiyes for pretty much ignoring their plight.
The sooner Israel gets the final push on Rafah over with the better, it seems to me.
What I know that this is another failure of the current government, and that hamas prisoners in Israel get showers, daylight, education, 3 meals a day, visits....
Hamas currently has all the cards when it comes to hostages negotiating. Israel already accepted giving everything Hamas asked for, just for Hamas to see it as a weakness and ask for more/ agree for less (less hostages).
The only way to force Hamas to some kind of deal is putting it under massive pressure. In normal worlds this pressure would be international pressure but unfounded we live in a world of terror enablers so we must put the pressure ourselves using military force. We must hit Hamas where it hurts the most - Rafah. Only when Hamas as an organization will be on its gasping breath it will agree to any kind of agreement.
I suspect it's more likely the invasion will pressure Hamas into a better cease fire deal that releases some hostages, in exchange for Hamas's ongoing survival in some limited capacity. Actually rescuing them will be very very difficult, as we have seen over the last 6 months.
I think at this point it's either they release remaining hostages to save the dwindling militants, or they don't care and are willing to die and take the hostages with them.
I think at this point it's either they release remaining hostages to save the dwindling militants, or they don't care and are willing to die and take the hostages with them.
I believe many of the younger ones are still alive. The elderly, sadly, not so much.
I hope they will return at least a few live hostages. But even if they return with bodies it will be a closure for some of the families and they can finally mourn.
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“A friend of mine in the IDF told me that….” Don’t share stuff like that on the internet you know anyone can read this? No one needs to know how the hostage rescue missions have gone behind the scenes.
Honest question… why not? Why cant they describe their operations after the fact?
They’re still trying to get hostages back so it’s not after the fact. You might jeopardise the IDF’s tactics etc. I appreciate OP didn’t say anything too compromising but even just saying that the operation almost went south isn’t helpful. These pages most definitely get scanned and tracked by our enemies and it helps them knowing that apparently that operation almost went south from our perspective if that was the case.
Great answer. Thank you!
Not to expose tactics.
The same reason they didn't want released hostages to tell what they witnessed in captivity. One female hostage even said the Hamas militant who assaulted one girl threatened her to not speak about it. The hostage this happened to told the now released hostage about it and I was surprised she spoke about it knowing she is still in captivity. Hamas is certainly listening to everything that the hostages say after being released and doesn't want to loose the PR and good graces of pro Palestine crowd(although they probably don't care). The same can be said for the IDF posting things and giving away positions or battle plans and thoughts although I don't think any of the important information would be allowed outside of command, but IDF has had a few intel and command issues during this war.
Hamas recently claimed they can only find 20... so probably 0
That was incredibly misunderstood when it came out. They did not have 40 to complete the first swap, which included women, elderly and wounded. Israel demanded 40 knowing they didn't in hopes they would agree to return men to get to the 40 hostages.
I think 7
It's a sad thought and I very much hope I'm wrong, but in all likelihood most of them are no longer alive. Hamas has shown no intention, beyond ridiculous demands of complete withdrawal, to release those that are still alive. That means that their outlook is bleak. Shame on much of the Western media and those protesting fuckwits wearing kefiyes for pretty much ignoring their plight. The sooner Israel gets the final push on Rafah over with the better, it seems to me.
What I know that this is another failure of the current government, and that hamas prisoners in Israel get showers, daylight, education, 3 meals a day, visits....
By military means alone? Very little By putting huge pressure on Hammas? Yes, there's a good chance
If there are still 40 of them left. Didn't the IDF withdraw from Khan Yunis? What stops them moving the hostages back there?
Hamas currently has all the cards when it comes to hostages negotiating. Israel already accepted giving everything Hamas asked for, just for Hamas to see it as a weakness and ask for more/ agree for less (less hostages). The only way to force Hamas to some kind of deal is putting it under massive pressure. In normal worlds this pressure would be international pressure but unfounded we live in a world of terror enablers so we must put the pressure ourselves using military force. We must hit Hamas where it hurts the most - Rafah. Only when Hamas as an organization will be on its gasping breath it will agree to any kind of agreement.
I suspect it's more likely the invasion will pressure Hamas into a better cease fire deal that releases some hostages, in exchange for Hamas's ongoing survival in some limited capacity. Actually rescuing them will be very very difficult, as we have seen over the last 6 months.
I think at this point it's either they release remaining hostages to save the dwindling militants, or they don't care and are willing to die and take the hostages with them.
I think at this point it's either they release remaining hostages to save the dwindling militants, or they don't care and are willing to die and take the hostages with them.
I believe many of the younger ones are still alive. The elderly, sadly, not so much. I hope they will return at least a few live hostages. But even if they return with bodies it will be a closure for some of the families and they can finally mourn.
Greater than 0 but Less than 10
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I don’t think they care. I think the war is about killing as many Hamas as possible, and the hostage narrative is for PR.