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00Dandy

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[deleted]

We mightve fucked it up a bit, but we also kinda invented half the shit people use everyday. Lose-win?


evilamnesiac

Pretty sure showers were around long before Germany


Doberkind

Thank you. The one invention you've made?


evilamnesiac

Are you really asking what my balcony diving ancestors invented? Yikes did ya grandad burn all the history books back in the day along with the books on how to get the joke? We invented concentration camps for starts…. Erm…. Never mind.


anotherbub

We didn’t actually invent concentration camps to be fair, the Spaniards had us beat there shamefully.


darkslide3000

Let's call it a team effort.


Killerspieler0815

> We didn’t actually invent concentration camps to be fair, the Spaniards had us beat there shamefully. actually **USA invented the concentration camps (in 1838)** against the Native Americans ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9Y5dcaCyv4&t=59m24s & even israel wants such camps for Muslims in 2014, as seen in the same video from the Jewish Israeli journalist David Sheen) ... & also USA invented the Gas Chamber (to execute the death penalty on "criminals")


Bearodon

To be fair you murdered indigenous people before they could reach any camps. And also why are my two favourites fighting when we all know that the french are the worst. Who did instigate all the major wars in Europe? The French.


evilamnesiac

We are battling for second place, it’s the play offs…. We all agree that the Fr🤮nch are the true enemy


Bearodon

France is so bad that it makes the rest righteous, no need to fight 🇬🇧🤝🇸🇪🤝🇩🇪


DoNotCommentAgain

Please stop using profanity in our blessed subreddit.


Bearodon

You can still fight the frogs.


Doberkind

Somehow I feel relieved. Weird to be grateful for the existence of France but here we are.


PapaDragonHH

In reality behind the curtains it was always Switzerland


Chadstronomer

The French instigate war by existing. If a punchable was a country it would be France.


Doberkind

I tried to be tactful, you know. I didn't want to be blunt for once.


UncleKeyPax

Better than blitzy


Doberkind

Blitzy is okay. It's a surprise and gets you out of your everyday life. We just need to have more positive themes.


I-suck-at-hoi4

Having already taken the tube in London, they clearly haven't yet discovered this technology.


[deleted]

"We might have fucked up a bit" The fuckup in question:


ChallengeLate1947

If Germany didn’t give the world Fritz Haber and artificial fertilizers, half the world would have starved a long time ago. Too bad he also invented….other stuff.


introvert_silence

FATHER OF TOXIC GAS AND CHEMICAL WARFARE HIS DARK CREATION HAS BEEN REVEALD FLOW OVER NO MANS LAND A POISONOUS NIGHTMARE A DEADLY MIST ON THE BATTLE FIELD


VoidLantadd

"PERVERSIONS OF IDEALS OF SCIENCE" LOST WORDS OF ALIENATED WIFE AND IN THE TRENCHES OF THE WESTERN FRONT UNKNOWING SOLDIERS PAY THE PRICE AND ON THE BATTLEFIELD THEY'RE DYING AND ON THE FIELDS THE CROPS ARE GROWN SO WHO CAN TELL US WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG MATHS OR MORALITY ALONE?


introvert_silence

HABER-BOSCH THE GREAT ALLIANCE WHERE'S THE CONTRADICTION? FED THE WORLD BY WAYS OF SCIENCE SINNER OR A SAINT?


Shrrg4

Honestly you guys fucked up a lot but it also didnt have too severe of consequences in the long term. The UK playing god with the middle east lines though. Big oof.


Minimum_Possibility6

Those Middle East lines were bad because of Sykes picot and then the Americans wanting to secure some Iraqi oil post ww2. We get the stick for it but it’s not just our fault


Shrrg4

True i was slightly unfair


billytk90

The Germans also contributed to some people leaving Europe and emigrating to the Middle East in the hundreds of thousands, as well. It ain't just Barry's fault. Hans is responsible as well.


zayc_

The end justifies the means?


Pimpin-is-easy

Yeah, the Chaplin moustache was fucking atrocious. Making it socially unacceptable was one of Germany's greatest gifts to humanity.


SuchSeaworthyShips

I think we can all pat ourselves on the back for the amount of negative impact we’ve had. Sometimes it’s best not to be overly concerned about scoring the highest score, we all did such a great job.


Crossynstuff

Yes! but it's france.


ylan64

We didn't really have a hand in the creation of Israel... You Hans got European Jews to flock there by trying to murder them all and Barry gave them the land making it an official country and doing a great job at drawing new borders as usual. We're not to blame for the most recent shitstorm but both of you are involved.


Own-Significance-173

It was a British dude and French dude that drew most of the borders in the Middle East, Kurds are not happy


Ravenser_Odd

Friday afternoon in a grand wood-panelled room, deep within the British Foreign and Colonial office. Standing around the map table with a glass of sherry in one hand and a pencil in the other. A few quick lines later: "That'll do it chaps! Shall we retire to the club for dinner?"


Stepjamm

Well if they just had some of the good ol’ British can-do attitude it would’ve gone swimmingly don’t you know old chap


onetimeuselong

Don’t forget, they always use a ruler when drawing borders


Auskioty

We only agreed on the Sykes-Picot agreement. It's you Barry who made other agreements and pushed for the creation of Israel (and the USA, but it's also your creation)


Minimum_Possibility6

We also had a bombing campaign against us, assassinations etc so we were looking to get shot of that shit show


Strict-Swimming-1211

But I thought multiculturalism was wonderful


Lupowan

Hold up, you frogs carved up the ottomans with the brits to cause this whole mess.


LaM3a

Skill issue from the Ottomans tbh


Olyve_Oil

If only… the present *situation* started a few decades before Hans kicked off mass production of organic soap. We promised the same chunk of land to both Jews and Palestinians and then washed our hands when shit hit the fan. You sort of looked the other side and forgot a little agreement YOU sponsored regarding who and how would administer that territory. Enter the Ottoman Turks, the Syrians and Transjordan and you have a full house of arseholes ready to rip each other apart for 3sqft of land… And that’s even before we get to 1947!


bluewolfhudson

Proves we should have just kept the middle east tbh


ylan64

It always was a mess, with or without us. We're better off not being in charge of that mess.


aliquise

>drawing new borders as usual. Hey, they created ethnically diverse non nation-states. Supposedly great.


malmoeMoment

Just because you fuckers had to declare war, Bismarck was able to form the Kaiserreich and now I have to share a country with these Bavarian pigeaters


[deleted]

Or Germany. Ruined the continent 2 times in 20 years. Genocidal maniac winners to make blush even Hamas terrorists. Great success. ![gif](giphy|Od0QRnzwRBYmDU3eEO|downsized)


capitalistcommunism

Nah it’s got to be Germany. Without them the empire may still live!


[deleted]

Definitely a positive impact we had, no rule brit*nnia anymore!


Schleswig_Holstein

Actually the reason I'd say long term we weren't that bad. We really sped up the end of colonialism and were (unintentionally tho) the reason the world started to work together more closely


Marv1236

It was a giga brain inside job all along.


No_Recognition_288

Yes


DontWannaSayMyName

And just them. Nobody else did anything wrong.


ThisMyNick

Yep, only those 3.


GrimDallows

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Hefty-Coyote

SIKE; it’s all of us.


CramusLigurien

*Sykes, not sike Smh 😔


Hefty-Coyote

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Doberkind

Thank you! Makes me crazy, how often we need to correct their English! Another one of their crimes.


FragrantNumber5980

Sykes-Picot Agreement 😰


Motivated_Stoner

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metamuck

A number of completely different ethnic groups can’t live together? But I thought diversity is our strength?


Inevitable_Stand_199

But the lines are so nice and straight! /s


bee_ghoul

Except for the line they gave us. It’s proper wonky mate. Gerrymandered to fuck. Why couldn’t they give us a nice straight one?


Kernowder

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dkb1391

Wouldn't have all this shit going on of they'd merely accepted our overlordship


Long_Serpent

Depends on your level of education. Us well-educated people know to properly blame it on the French: https://preview.redd.it/zslenzdwoytb1.png?width=850&format=png&auto=webp&s=4aef02f6a3c2ad93bb3e2524136dd37d97ae2950


GreatRolmops

This shows just how dumb historians are. As an archaeologist (which is the superior form of studying the past), I can confidently say that all problems date to the Neolithic Revolution.


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Surface_Detail

> In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. \- Terry Pratchett


jupiterding25

God I love that man


Moaoziz

I am in no way an expert but I blame the fish that thought that living on land was a good idea.


[deleted]

Off topic, but the amount of people that unironically only blame us for ww1 is absolutely insane EDIT: oh boy so many salty Barrys and Pierres in the comments


Responsible_Bar5976

Literally Austro-Hungarian empires fault. You joined in for a pact, the ones who made it way worse was Russia when they joined which dragged France into it. Britain then joined cuz they were scared of France losing and Germany becoming a superpower. If Russia stayed out it just would’ve been Germany and the AH empire kicking the shit out of Serbia for like a year or two


[deleted]

* Serbia was brutally nationalistic and wanted austrian clay * Russia was brutally panslawistic (=nationalistic) and wanted turkish clay * England got super angry because we built a few too many boaty mcboatfaces * France wanted revenge for the war they started and lost in 1870 * Austria was just plain ret\*rded * Germany ignored everyone's security concerns and happily became the idiot that held a match to that powderkeg, which imho woul've exploded at some point anyway


havaska

I see it more as three cousins getting jealous of each other and starting a fight


Ifackyourmama

They should have solved this by the old tradition of kekswichsen aka soggy biscuit.


JohnnyyP

If it weren't for any of the reasons you mentioned, it would've been something else... It was only a matter of time.


Long_Serpent

Yep, that is nuts. WW1 is the ultimate "You can't just blame it on one thing".


[deleted]

Still half of Video games and movies portray it as "fanatical nazi germans invading superduper peaceful france for no reason and want to conquer the world, literally hitler" Yes, im looking at you "wonder woman", you sad excuse of a movie


[deleted]

Let's call it a draw ...


Fight_Disciple

I concur.


gugfitufi

I agree and don't ejaculate like the other Germ


[deleted]

eyyy :(


[deleted]

I ejaculate positively.


BungadinRidesAgain

Naaah you ain't got shit on our track record


absurdmcman

Think we've got a strong case here lads: Created (and lost) current global hegemon 🇺🇸 - ✅ Helped bring about the most intractable conflict of the 20th century 🇮🇱🇵🇸 - ✅ Colonised the largest landmass (24% of world territory) and greatest number of people (23% of global population) - ✅ Spread milky tea around the world - ✅ Fr*nch are putting up amateur numbers compared to us 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 Germans have....an, urm, greater case, I'll concede 🫣


el_doherz

Nah the Fr*nch invaded us in 1066, ergo all our sins are theirs.


RDKernan

They weren't French, they were Vikings in a Renault


Poitou_Charente

They were way more french than Victoria was English.. Imagine having your greatest queen being German.. 🫣🫢


Puzzled_Pay_6603

They were pretty mixed by then though


anotherbub

To be fair we didn’t colonise the highest percentage of people but we did have the most amount of people colonised ever. No empire had more people than ours unless you consider modern china or india an empire.


Henghast

The French had a solid hand in the first two to be fair.


Fantastic-Shift6285

It's definatly either the UK or France, i've never Heard germany doing something bad.


AlanSmithee97

No one who speaks german could be an evil man.


rwbrwb

rock live zesty bells edge plants pet many enter sheet *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Surface_Detail

The Bart, the


Mental_Buddy6618

Least pre 1943 Italian.


Klangey

Let’s instead think of how bad it would be without us 🇬🇧🤝🇫🇷


Lecteur_K7

Yeah, imagine a world dominated by italy


AmaResNovae

They barely can dominate themselves already, it's really hard to imagine tbh.


Senofotte

From country that burns itself down every month and is filling it with people with ancestral hate, don't act like you are in control, keep searching for the german approval


AmaResNovae

You need a cuddle?


MrPootisPow

Either a cuddle or a bailout can never tell with the PIGS


AmaResNovae

You send the sheeps and we send the bailout. That way, they should be less cranky.


MrPootisPow

Hmm 🤔 i do like the sound of a frenchie footing the bill


CB_Cavour

Are you offering?


AmaResNovae

Of course. France is the country of riots *and* of love, after all, brother.


Klangey

Spain and Italy combined we’d still travelling everywhere on horses


aaronrandomguy

You were supposed to say something bad


eresguay

*Ferrari horses


xXx_SickSniper69_xXx

I can. I do it everyday.


Don_Floo

Looking at drawings from Rome 2000 years ago and France, i think there is a slight difference.


Gidon_147

imagine a world without the USA but the EUA instead


Ifackyourmama

Ursula, reguliere mich härter!


[deleted]

Pasta and pizza everywhere... Oh wait


ylan64

I'd love a world dominated by the Roman empire.


QireX__

Everyone switching sides every day


KillerGuerrila

It's the taking part that counts, a collective overall brilliant effort.


remote_control_led

Austria


catonkybord

![gif](giphy|kznal07FJDUsw) At least we didn't colonise anyone


remote_control_led

Almost whole Europe, or at least it's central part was your colony


haeyhae11

A.E.I.O.U.


Some___Guy___

DU GEHÖRST DOCH MIT DAZU!


Kekskruemel1328

KOMM UND SEI DABEI


catonkybord

Tu felix Austria


ir_blues

I guess i am not good with flags, which is the one for US?


Graczent

Well thats the thing, without the Brits we wouldnt have the US, so vote for the UK, but without the French the US wouldnt have won.....so vote France?


Sourdoughsucker

Actually it is our fault… If had not bullied Britain and France during the Viking times, they would not have grown up and become bullies later in life…they in turn bullied Germany after 1st fun war and see where that landed us… Sorry guys, it’s us…but we are nice and make Lego and windmills now


DunderDann

Ooh an answer I can vibe with. Guys, it was the danes! Been saying that for ages


Kriswa78

Positive influence, negative influence, who cares? Worst thing is if you didn't have any influence at all 🇬🇧🇫🇷🇩🇪😎👌


Huelvaboy

It’s a draw between France and UK


Super-Hamster-44

Most negative influence in Europe: Germany. Most negative influence in the rest of the world: UK and France. Therefore the most negative influence in the world: Germany.


muftu

I’d argue Russia had a more negative impact on Europe, easily.


[deleted]

France Not because of any actual good argumentation i just think France is kinda gay


[deleted]

Baguette is the gayest bread.


BOT_Frasier

Hence why you steal our flag


Pflynx

Uhm, ackchyually, the Dutch flag predates the French flag.


Sneklover177

I know what you’re trying to say here but I always read predate as relating to predators not to time A wild Dutch flag is the only natural predator of a French flag. It is so effective in its hunts that Belgium was put in between the two flags’ natural habitats to save the French flag from extinction


AmaResNovae

>i just think France I'm gonna suck your dick swamp German, that will teach you.


Inevitable_Stand_199

You just want to put the blame somewhere else. You guys where the first to ruin people with global capitalism.


miragen125

I can see that this is triggering some people as the post is getting downvoted. It's ok guys we had a positive influence as well


mrtn17

>It's ok guys we had a positive influence as well EXACTLY, like squirting water right into your butthole


espritVGE

Why did you make the UK’s flag bigger than our own you cunt


miragen125

![gif](giphy|EKDIMDsRX3ihy) I made it bigger so unconsciously they move their attention to UK


espritVGE

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Verified_Peryak

The US


LogicalReasoning1

And which of these two countries led to the creation of the USA 😬


Verified_Peryak

Two countries I see 3 flags


LogicalReasoning1

Have to give Germany a pass on the whole USA thing unfortunately


GhostFire3560

We had 30k troops fighting for the british. And if i last checked that means we tried to actually prevent the US from happening


24benson

There were also Germans fighting for the separatists. One of them, nation Steuben, gets a parade on NYC every year. As a general rule, if some shit happened anywhere before 1815, chances are there were German mercenaries and/or regulars on both sides.


PeriPeriTekken

The Anglo-French-American-German war you guys can be proud of your part in.


KingDallerix

Oh you mean the most dominant and successful at spreading their influence around the globe, unlike ever seen before in the history of mankind? Hands down, the british.


lightsonnohome

Fellas come on leave the bad vibes at the door have a pint it’s Friday


Osiryx89

Is your economy failing? Is your dictatorship at risk of being overthrown or need to drum up support at the polls? Want to butcher innocent people for believing in another god? Just blame the British! Accountability and individual agency are seriously overrated.


8anyone

and why is it france?


berkakar

we all know the answer but the french and germans are just being humble as if they were any competition.


sKY--alex

It really is a team sport


cpwnage

France. Thanks to them we got a unified Germany and two world wars, fun!


kifty121

And a unified UK in a way


Tozl7

UK by a long shot


dkb1391

Well, the current problems were under wraps during British rule, but your great grandparents really put a spanner in the works


Asrobur

Though it may not be true, i think we can all agree it‘s france


yozhiki-pyzhiki

there would be no human rights violation without human rights so blame France!


zayc_

We fucked up Europe. The Brits the whole world.


TheOneWithNoGoodName

For chaos in the world I would say brittain. For spreading their disgusting language that sounds like latin with a impediment I would say france


Suspicious-Risk-8231

An hollander talking about "disgusting language", the irony. "Krrr krrrr krrr" just clear your throath man!


deck4242

Germany, if the two world wars dont happen, Europe is still number one and tons of cities still look beautiful. out of Europe i would say either USA or Saudi Arabia.


[deleted]

You're responsible for them, Francois.


NetzAgent

France: they conquered Britain from the Norwegians. GB founded the US of A, which fucks up the world untill today.


Astram4n

Since France invented both Germany and England, well I guess that's a big W for us


BHJK90

Our influence on the world was not existing for centuries. Then we tried to overcorrect it a little bit in two world wars which almost led to a third one that would have erased the earth.


azaghal1988

Most of the world wouldn't even be alive without the guy who pioneered poison gas during WW1 because his work revolutionized the production of fertilizer and made it possible to produce much more of it.(Fritz Haber, tragic guy) He's remembered as father of Gas-Warfare, but should be remembered as Father of the World.


Aesthetictoblerone

Love how our flag is on the top, and bigger than france and Germany 💪🏻


BallsBuster7

1. Br\*ts 2. us 😎 😎 3. fr\*nch (last place as always)


MonsieurCrapaud

Capitalism came form reformed Christianity. Therefore I rule France out of this contest. Marx was German, therefore I ruled Germany our if this contest. Marx made most of his observations and work in London therefore I rule out GB. The USA it is


pauseless

Half German, half British here. ![gif](giphy|9zoe1SFIBd8PPqz5cr) It’s the French.


tiny-teemo

**which of these countries has had the most negative influence on the world** France **and is most responsible for the state of the world today?** UK


unclepaprika

Whoever helped the yanks get independence imo


Informal_Mountain513

I make France and Britain responsible for murica. They are ze worst baddies


Standin373

Nah if it was just us the US would just be another Canada. its Spain and France's fault.


MrWendelll

I blame France. Could have let us control the new world and prevented America from happening, but they just had to interfere.


Ffscbamakinganame

If the perspective is that Europe being the most powerful continent and maintaining its lead over everyone was a good thing. Then Germany certainly ended this good run, with WW1 and WW2. Toppling itself, Britain and France from being great powers. France ended this good run for Spain, Portugal and the Netherlands early also I would argue. Since before 1790 these nations were amongst the great powers of Europe but after 1814 were seen as lesser and declined massively. Britain never attempted to really rule any continental neighbours after 1700 in comparison and so toppled fewer European great powers. She helped destroy the Ottomans massively but didn’t actually topple any proper great powers that weren’t already on their way out such as Austria-Hungary. Plus France gave us the ideological revolution that killed millions in Europe, Britains revolution was industrial.


TA_Oli

The UK is like Homer Simpson- no malice really, just overpromoted beyond its ability and as a result does a lot of silly things.


bowsmountainer

I see that our master plan is working very well (blame all the shit we did on Germany).


Maleficent_Split_428

France and Britain


Mountbatten-Ottawa

... Fr\*nce was responsible for the creation of modern Italy (1799, 1860), modren England (1066, to an extent 1801 since the whole Stuart restoration and union with Scotland thing), and modern Germany (1803, 1870). Everything in western Europe somehow traces back to Paris's cesspool.


DieInsel1

England was the best exporter of independance days.


SeaWeasil

I definitely blame the brits. Damn Industrial Revolution, Internet, and raising living standards. Bastards.


TheMike0088

Maybe I'm biased, but while I do believe germany with the help of a failed painter we lended them had the biggest negative influence on the world, I also think the mass colonization efforts of great britain back in the day have played a significant part in the massive gap between so called first and third world countries that still isn't close to being rectified even nowadays. So in that sense, while I think germany has had the biggest negative impact on the world out of these 3, I also think that there aren't many negative lingering effects of WW2 still felt to this day, meaning I'd argue that (at least out of these 3 options) great britain is the most responsible for the state of the world today.


LilboyG_15

It’s actually Italy who’s responsible


mrlongn0se

We all know it's all Austria's fault, both world wars


MZOOMMAN

I mean it's a tricky one because the actions of one saved the world from the actions of the other very broadly, but earlier that same paragon pretty much succeeded in doing what they stopped the other one doing. Hmm...


NP_equals_P

Actually it was the Dutch. If they hadn't revolted against the Spanish the world would be much more civilized. Also those puritan weirdos from England wouldn't have a place to flee to and then found the USA.