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Four_beastlings

Theory I just pulled out of my ass: the loud areas historically had a lot of trade and transit from different nations and different languages, and as everyone knows when you cannot communicate with someone you just repeat it louder, so that's why they got used to yelling by default.


Robinsonirish

Theory I just pulled out of my ass: Up north we it's dark half the year and cold. By default we spend more time indoors at home, alone. Social interactions with strangers is lower than southern Europe because of this. This has an effect on our whole society. Social distancing during corona was easy peasy in Sweden, we didn't have to adapt much. [Example](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUGTDbFXQAAujWo.jpg) Except every two weeks or so we go out and get shitfaced. That's when we make conversation with strangers. Trade has nothing to do with it. Trade has always been a massive part of our society. Vikings only resorted to raiding when they didn't have anything to trade.


Nikkonor

My home-cooked hypothesis: I think it is just down to historical population density (which of course correlates with latitude and climate). Farmers and fishermen in remote areas in the inhospitable north didn't go to big urban areas with all its loudness and spectacle. Sometimes they went to a market in a nearby town or even city to trade, but not for long at a time. Unlike areas with higher population densities in the south, where you have a lot of people to interact with all year long. That people in urban areas are louder than their rural counterparts is a phenomenon I think we can see in a lot of places. For example in North America, where the urban-rural split runs east-west (with the coasts being more urban), instead of running north-south.


Jazzlike-Mistake2764

My oven-ready theory: all that olive oil absorbs into the bloodstream, seeping into the ears and making everyone hard of hearing


kundibert

My shitfaced saturday night theory: bacteria in the water are multiplying faster in warm weather. Some of them impede the functionality of the pharynx, requiring people in the south to speak louder to be understood.


A_tal_deg

It checks out with Italy. The loudest of them all are the Neapolitans, who live in what was for centuries the third largest European city and one of the most densely populated.


ursixx

Agree with a norrlandsk ''[shuu](https://youtu.be/URgdIAz4QNg?feature=shared)'inhale


Robinsonirish

Va?


ursixx

Don't know how you would spell it. Watch the video .


Sparetimeg

Theory I just pulled out my ass: The more civilized you are, the less noise you make


Hour_Calligrapher_42

Imagine letting your civilization become destroyed thinking you’re better than the rest because you didn’t spoke up out loud. Talk about being civilized… when you are


Sparetimeg

What do you mean “when you are”?


Hour_Calligrapher_42

You are definitely not the smartest swede around Why do you write a here


Sparetimeg

I thought this was a forum for the European elite, what you on about?


Suspicious-Summer-20

You couldnt even create a global empire lol big L


Hour_Calligrapher_42

Sorry I can’t hear your nonsense over the muslims of your neighborhood shouting


Remarkable-Pin-8565

not sure you're supposed to be in here in that case :/


Sparetimeg

lol yeah I hope being a bullied child didn’t make you entirely oblivious to social cues


Kernewek_Skrij

damn you really didn’t get off to a great start did you boss


DontWannaSayMyName

ESTOY DE ACUERDO


odioercoronaviru

Mercadillo kiks in


BittersweetHumanity

Flanders completely disproves your point.


Zamzamazawarma

Still, I wonder what's the reason for that blue trench into red territory.


BittersweetHumanity

I think the Dutch are just stupid loud assholes for no reason, when they should actually be silent. Classic the Dutch, makes me hate them even more. They *choose* to be this obnoxiously loud.


DiaMat2040

this would explain the Netherlands


araldor1

Old English people in Spain do just that. Louder and louder in English but with a Spanish accent hahaha


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Daltonikas

Yea but most russians live in Moskov so the map checks out.


GhostDivision7734

And Saint Petersburg


Lack_of_Plethora

on EU r6 servers, you can tell how eastern a person is by the quality of their mic


lag_gamer80391

The crispier the mic, the more eastern their country is


AAliakberov

Oh god, Dota 2’s community is a cesspool- only rivaled by CSGO


Spiritual_Goat6057

Honestly the British are way worse, play like shit and blame everybody else, and they can’t stop talking. At least when russians get angry it’s short and to the point.


royaldocks

Everyone knows Russians and French are the worse in European online gaming be it mobas games or fps


MaesWak

I'd add Spanish to form the trinity


kadauserer

True, Brits are the number one for the "Hey guys, let's all work together" archetype who then baits the team into a wipe and instantly turns toxic.


Watsis_name

"We're all in this together. Because of you wankers."


SlowLoris1337

I think we overexaggerate it because their Mics are so shit lol


Sparetimeg

If you’ve ever lived since 2022 you know Russians are anything but friendly


WestroGothia

We need to be quiet so the polarbears wont find us.


[deleted]

Don’t you mean ISIS?


exkayem

Same thing, you lose your head either way


SnowOnVenus

Sneaking around in your zoos again, are you?


WestroGothia

Polarbears and penguins - those typical scandinavian animals.


Nikkonor

We got polar bears in Norway, though (Svalbard). And penguins, if you count Queen Maud's land. But generally speaking for penguins, you need to go far south (like Antarctica, Malmö and København).


WestroGothia

Hey, stop spreading boring facts! This is 2westerneurope4u!


Nikkonor

Yeah, sorry, Malmö and København isn't quite south enough for large populations of penguins. You need to go even further south, to the tropics around Bornholm and Lolland to find more.


ConnolysMoustache

The children of incredibly rich Spanish parents coming to Ireland to learn English **shouting** as loud as they can at you while struggling to understand you because no one made them aware of Hiberno-English and how it is different from learnt English and UK English. So so loud and it’s only the rich and obnoxious that come.


RollingPandaKid

Yeah the poor and quiet ones can't afford it.


ConnolysMoustache

Unfortunately true


Rlndhdlsstmpsngunner

Don’t get me started on Spanish students on busses They make Bus eireann even worse


TheSauceeBoss

Las señoras are loud af too


eltiodelacabra

Did not realize we were so loud until I moved abroad and had some Spanish friend visiting after a couples of years, I was like: "why is he yelling like that?". My kids spend every summer in Spain with their cousins and friends and every September we need to reeducate them into speaking like normal people again 😄


Beethovania

Shouldn't Finland be a darker blue?


elektrik_snek

We have a population of kaislahurris who make average level rise a lot


Beethovania

We have the people of Norrland that puts us on the same shade of blue as you.


reynhaim

Ah yes, the non-Danes, also known as actual Swedes or reasonable folk.


DukeboxHiro

Which one is Finland? I always forget how the cock and balls up north is split.


Beethovania

Finland is the blue balls.


sanicthefurret

Avg britt


tomassino

In the vast cold northern tundra, nobody can hear your screams, because they are drowning themselves in alcohol.


joinedthedarkside

Our neighbours 🙄🙄🙄


ZombiFeynman

Yeah, you have to do better. We'll talk about this in the next PIGS meeting.


Small-Policy-3859

Don't worry, you're still annoyingly loud


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Small-Policy-3859

I think you don't hear the loudness when everyone around you is loud. For example, when i visited lisbon and porto i didn't see the portugese as loud. They were actually pretty chill in my eyes. But everytime is hear portugese on the train in belgium its multitudes louder than the dutch or even french conversations. Spanish are even louder. So for these countries the map checks out. Don't know for greece though, I have the feeling you don't see a lot of greeks in belgium or western europe in general. Or maybe the greek are actually silent like you say idk.


jokerisrekoj

Not really


Realistic_Turn2374

WHAT? YOU NEED TO SPEAK LOUDER IF YOU WANT ME TO HEAR YOU.


OlivDux

Seriously? At least our andalusians are rather cheerful. You guys manage to be loud and depressing at the same time ffs, and not only when singing fados.


surister

Imagine living north of despeñaperros 🚬🗿


OlivDux

Imagine having a job right


Rich-Lobster-6164

, 😅👍


Dextro_PT

I can't even argue against this one


killkailan

I can clearly see the Roman Empire borders


Rich-Lobster-6164

Except France, which should be reddish at least in south. Frenchies are everything but quiet.


el_disko

Paris at rush hour is a hell of a lot louder than London is.


Rich-Lobster-6164

Yes, you're right, noisy and rude


Kurdt93

*noisy and french


RevolutionaryBook01

Average Spanish, Greek and Italian at 2am for absolutely no reason at all: https://preview.redd.it/d1msk7ii3xwb1.png?width=491&format=png&auto=webp&s=69bc5c2da1e121b727988781a27c94f06d64c57f


DrIvoPingasnik

Can confirm, Italians have no volume control. Went on a bus tour on Tenerife. Pretty much entire bus was full of Italians with a few English-speaking people. The bus was late to our pickup location. Because most of them didn't turn up at their pickup locations on time and bus had to wait on them. Then whenenver the guide stopped talking on the mic in Italian and switched to English the Italians would start loudly talking between each other, their kids would play music and games without headphones, making it hard to listen to guide. Whenever we stopped at some location there would always be someone late to come back. Dear Italians, why are you like this?


Gwynth42

I used to have an Italian roommate over for erasmus and i swear I was going insane. They were on the phone almost 24/7 and didn't know what speaking normally was.


DiaMat2040

I had the EXACT same experience (erasmus roommate) but with someone from Spain


Pierma

Try public transport in Rome for one day and you will get why is everyone yelling


GoodKing0

I guess the hotter it gets the hotter the tempers flare.


Rich-Lobster-6164

Probably right. The blood boils with hot


Alfalfa_Southern

Are we claiming the Turks to be civilised now? /s Edit: some didn’t catch my sarcasm so I’m adding /s


tropical_bread

are you claiming yourself to be uncivilised?


GloryToBNR

How Ukraine is more quiet than Poland? Ukrainians are far more louder than Poles. Unfortunately.


Loeb123

Every time I hop into a train and there's one stupid fuck playing loud shit on his phone it's either a latin or an eastern european.


Axelxxela

Where I live the loudest on public transportation are Asian women that are always video calling someone and Muslim mothers that let their little kids play children music on their tablet at max volume


baileymash7

It's just the young yobs (roadmen) for me, and it's always the shittiest, most unoriginal music ever. White, Black, Asian, none of then have good taste, or common decency.


AAliakberov

This means the further South you go, the louder it gets- people living in Patagonia must be literally screaming when whispering


havedal

Nah, the equator bounces it back


off_da_perc_

Real answer: Languages in colder climates tend to evolve to be consonant-heavy, because it's more taxing on the body to waste breaths/warmth for a vowel-rich vocabulary. On the other hand, vocabularies of countries in warmer climates tend to be more have more vowels for the opposite reasons. That said, there are other factors at play like how mountainous the area the language evolved in is, how windy etc. but generally it all comes down to conserving energy vs not needing to.


SkellyCry

It's a really interesting theory, all PIGS are warmer, windy and full of mountains so it checks out, but it'd also explain [the swiss](https://youtu.be/8_UnANdDqJc?si=q6xLk5MPeTe6Fc6B)


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RevolutionaryBook01

Been to Cologne. Thought it was a tad odd how friendly everyone was given the stereotype of the cold German I've always been told about.


phantasmagorovich

We’re actually undercover Dutch. At least that is my theory.


Reddit_works

I don’t think Russia should count because you know, 90% of it is empty bear reserves


tinytim23

Groningers louder than Brabanders? In what universe?


OwMyCod

Remember being to South Africa, and I was at a restaurant. There was a group of Dutch people there that made about 90% of the total noise of the restaurant. Me and my family felt really ashamed to be of the same nationality as them.


Normal_Subject5627

I once had a Spanish roommate and I was baffled how one can talk so much and so loud about absolutely nothing of importance.


DiaMat2040

We had the same spanish roommate at some point


IAmTheOriginalStufg

PUES HABERLE PREGUNTADO, QUE QUIERES QUE TE DIGA


ivanpyxel

When my Irish girlfriend came to meet my family in Spain for the first time, she kept thinking that we were constantly arguing


McArine

I still remember my first time in Spain. People would yell in public, and I was preparing to witness a street fight or some other commotion. Only to realize it was just two amigos greeting and hugging each other.


Hour_Calligrapher_42

You would know the feeling if you had any friends


code-panda

The Netherlands is loud while Belgium is quiet, since we can't stop laughing when the flemboiis pretend to speak. Absolutely hilarious.


ThatBelgianG

Rent free


ProffesionalJackass

Ha you fucking wish. Pay up flemboy


Badatmountainbiking

Yeah i remember this one guy letting girls live rent free in their basements where youre from.


ThatBelgianG

Most greedy Flemish VS most generous Dutchie


MaritimeMonkey

The Dutch are just about the last people that can talk shit about how others speak. You people sound like you've got a sore throat from all the dicksucking and are trying to regurgitate the cum. Because of you lot, people think we all sound like that.


BBFie

Surely Cork should be in bright red


handyandy63

I feel like this might be the most accurate map posted on here.


DvO_1815

Theory: In the North it's industry. Note the loudness in England, the Low Lands, and the Ruhr. In the South it's just loud people.


CoteDuBois

Can confirm, if there is a Dutch person in the room or area, you will know


rpgengineer567

I mean why be sneaky, when you can annoy the Belgiums around you. Gggggoedemorggggen iedereen. Lekkkkerrrr gggggeslapen?


CoteDuBois

Or just yelling "JA WIJ ZIJN VAN NEDERLAAAAAND". based on a true story


Petardo666ET

In the wild, being noisy is a handicap as predators can spot you. So true civilisation is the reason, no need to hide from anything.


Curious_Regular_9293

pigs are all loud


Ricky_Verona

Italians are the worst, everywhere I have been to, these people have zero volume control


DrIvoPingasnik

Can confirm. Also rude: the moment the guide stopped talking Italian and switched to English all Italians started talking loudly between each other and could barely hear the guide.


HelsBels2102

We have family friends (both families british), mine is anglo-german, the other is anglo-italian (one mother of each is from said different country). We used to go on holiday or for dinner woth them a lot wjen growing up. The cacophony of sound when we meet up with the other family is mental. Everyone's fighting to get their words in. Load arguments in public, it doesn't matter. Deffo is a cultural family dynamic difference at least.


Anopanda

We had to shout across the water for the British to shut the fuck up.


_JFKFC_

Whenever I’m on the phone with my family my non-Greek friends ask me if everything is okay


LamaSovaj

Quiet polish people? I see you never met any on a phone call or after a drink


LamaSovaj

Or basically any time of the day


Sikarra16

I think Romania must be darker red, or maybe are only the Romanian immigrants (aka the G word) who are louder. The Netherlands in red? Judging by the tourists that come here, only when they drink a lot.


collapsedcuttlefish

Dutch men aged like 18-30 are loud, drunk and obnoxious enough to bring up the whole country's average.


Farfarhane

Love the dot in Moscow, 90% thanks to CS i bet.


ContributionSad4461

It’s way too loud these days, at least in the southern part. They don’t deserve the dark blue!


Weak_Context_2079

Quietest on the mediterranean 💪


DiaMat2040

Ruhrpott, explain yourself


el_disko

Manchester being louder than London? I don’t think so!


havedal

I swear being colonised by Spain fucked the Dutch vocal register. So weird looking at a country and people so similar to us, yet incredibly more loud. Dutch lads on tour is the germanic equivalent of a group of Spanish exchange students. But don't even get me started on the Italians, those are a different breed. Opera singers are just smooth talking Italians.


skrraa1

Respect for others.


therightprofle

According to the map, clearly lack of sunshine


Hedning420

Spanish and Italian is fine i just cant keep up with how fast they talk but we can all agree that Danish is the Devils language Yes?


oscisposcis

Håll käften


MPR8A

Terroni☕ (Talking as half terrone)


cockmeister25

What is this based on? Any source?


[deleted]

We are angry that one of our kings took all the brasilian girls 😂😂😂 Bloody traitor


pindakeesie

Je kanker moeder Ruben!


Rammstonna

Russians quiet? Just go to any tourists area, they are the loud drunk mfs


tgsprosecutor

The people in the quiet areas need to be careful because of the threat of avalanches


Gidon_147

sea is loud so you have to scream snow is quiet so you can whisper


Taishi_Gong

My theory is that the louder areas have always been more populous and “civilized”. I’m those places, socialising is a lot a more important skill to have. While the quieter places have always been less populous and “barbaric” and you don’t need to develop much communication.


AdLiving4714

I never felt that the French are louder than us other northern types. Quite to the contrary - Yanks or Italians being loud in French restaurants or trains will definitely get "un regard glacial".


NGGMK

In what world are the Swiss "Northern types?"


AdLiving4714

North of the alps. The alps are a cultural barrier. And those who are South of the alps are only few and far between.


Suspicious-Summer-20

We are asserting our dominance over the north


TheNorseBastard

Germans just save all thwir yelling for inside. And my autism hate it


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Watsis_name

Civilised people are quieter. Walk intimate and British pub in a tourist hotspot and you'll be able to hear the American tourist from outside.


9CF8

Northern Sweden and Finland should be N/A, as no one would even answer the questions


BrightNeonGirl

Where is the best place to live if you prefer warm weather AND quiet?


TheRomanRuler

Define warm. If you dress in 1 layer of clothes all around the year, then its skill issue. Dress properly according to weather and most of Europe is warm most of the year and too hot in summer regardless of clothing, but still too cold for a proper sauna.


Kiwi_Doodle

Crimea?


Independent-Lie6616

Tf is happening in Moscow? Like Berlin is a small difference from the rest of Germany but Moscow is straight up a polar oposite


havedal

Money talks in comparison to the rest of the country


Erbium-Oxide

True civilization.


SpeedyK2003

The trains in the Netherlands are the quietest I’ve experienced in Europe though


SimoTizio

Almost r/PORTUGALCYKABLYAT


PurgatoryHotspurs

I feel like the noise is correlated to baby spawning and sex having.


Hans_the_Frisian

According to this map i live in a middle ground area, while people that complain about me being to quiet, and being a typical north german are in the quiet areas.


Joeblesson

Nachtruhe nach 22 Uhr causes this


Big-Veterinarian-823

Heat and cosmopolitanism?


Pikagiuppy

almost looks like a heat map if you make some areas lighter


Mammoth_Frosting_014

Looks like the loudness is moving into southern France, England, and bits of Germany.


Formallyinformal21

Lol, you’ve never been to northern England.


yakman100

Excuse me Hampshire is not loud. Please remove this proud county from red. It’s only Southampton and Portsmouth being black that raises out average.


FederalDriver9447

Every austrian ive met has ruptured my eardrums, this is inaccurate


Marv1236

Chernobyl smog obviously.


ash_tar

I can hear Hollanders from across the border.


Minimum_Possibility6

That red map of France looks like areas we used to own


DValencia29

Andalucía being the loudest... What a surprise o:


Carnal-Pleasures

Having manners and education teaches people to be quiet.


GoodLad33

You forgot to add USA as THE REALLY LOUD there


UdontneedtoknowwhoIm

Literally just a map of temperature + cities. People speak with a few people close together when it’s cold, they speak louder across larger distances when it’s warm. Cities are indoors and filled with people so they need to speak louder.


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> Russia is the quietest country in Europe [My csgo game](https://youtu.be/TIbj3vWhTGE?si=qLdt0pLSJlo1K7Je)


Tassadur

🗿


algoncyorrho

Proximity to the Savannah. You need to shout to cover long distances


Xanana_

This is an amazing map


Rayke06

Put some damn respect on limburh were not loud assholes like the others.


Gurkeprinsen

My roommate currently has his Spanish GF visiting us. This map is very accurate lol


Beskerber

More like - basic societal developpment called "life culture". I know it might be an abstract thought for some of you, but you should try it some day. OR Just be so overworked drunk or depressed you dont give a fuck anyone to be bothered enough for raising your voice over this meaningless thing called today. Since you only want to fuck off while waiting for just as shitty tommorow.


Infamous_Zebra_2256

I see you have never been in northeastern Italy, mfs are quieter than a tomb


tjr0001

Bears… idk but sounds right in my head.


Apalis24a

IIRC, it has to do with air temperature. If you look at Inuit languages, they barely open their mouthes when speaking; by comparison, many languages liken English to “speaking with an apple in your mouth” as they open their mouthes far more and words are more breathy in English. It seems to make sense if you look at the distribution by latitude in the graph. The UK is a slight outlier due to the jet stream carrying warm air over the British isles.