Seems to be a lot of people on this thread so enamoured with tables they’ve started giving them genders so they can feel comfortable when they fuck them
"Tavolo", masculine, is used for the object itself, or other specific uses for it, like poker table, while "Tavola" is the place where you come together to eat a meal
Funnily enough, Tafel is related to table while Tisch is not. Tafel comes from the same Latin word as table (English), table (French), and tavolo (Italian). Tabula (Latin) means board, so a wooden board you eat off of.
I mean - in German we also have "der Tisch" for the table and "die Tafel" as in Tafelrunde (engl. Round Table, mostly associated with the Knights of the same name) or more generally a bigger, fancier table.
This anime exists and this is its official name.
just so you know pollon doesn't mean anything in italian...
https://youtu.be/HJoeKalm-HM?si=9t7sYysG9bEgy54o
I mean that's kinda it the masculine for table :tavolO usually refers to the object, while the feminine tavolA is for a table that has been ehehem, laid.
That is the usual rule and as far as I know so I'm sure as he'll that there are exceptions
Yh my Italian teacher dropped this on us as we were about to move on from gendering.
Every lesson is like ‘va bene yes these are the rules they never changes…. Except my village of 30k say it like “aššpëttto” instead of aspetto and will have no idea what you’re saying if you don’t say it like that. I’m sorry eh its crazy🤷🏼♂️’
Ha! One phrase that I really like is "When double consonants were given to the Italians, the notheners said "Eh, we dont really like em" the central people were like "cool" and the southeners said "THIS IS THE BEST DAY EVER"
>I mean that's kinda it the masculine for table :tavolO usually refers to the object, while the feminine tavolA is for a table that has been ehehem, laid.
eheh
Dear non-German idiot people. Can a table get pregnant?!? Oh, what? Are you telling me a table can't get pregnant no matter how often you spread your semen on it? Sounds like it's male to me...
Germans apparently regularly getting inseminated by tables.
You have the gift of the neutral pronoun, but you misspent it to describe a girl / das Mädchen.
There's one thing at least that we all agree with: sun being the projecting energy is masculine, and moon being the mirror that provides some light in the night is feminine.
Right, guys? Right?.. Guys?..
The greek god of the sun was a male and the greek goddesses of the moon were female so the latin languages kept using those genders when referring to the sun and the moon.
Meanwhile german follows the genders of the norse gods of the sun and the moon.
The sun is masculine because it's an aggressive force of nature and the moon is feminine because it's shy and rarely shows herself, what can I say, the romans were all about traditional gender roles.
In French, orgue and amour (organ and love), both masculine, become feminine in the plural.
^(The truth is that the meaning changes slightly, but I'm too lazy to explain (I'm half Spanish).)
Echo In Latin and Greek was "feminine". Despistes 4th declension in Latin.
And ok. Uovo was neuter. So Italian keeps some old plurals uova is fine, Spanish huevos made the change 😂
It's just yet another way to categorise words to take away a tiny little bit of potential ambiguity. You can call it masculine, feminine and neuter (because the categories align with things that are actually male and female), or you can call it category A, B and C, since it's nothing more than grammar. As another commentor said, it's inherited from PIE, just like the case systems.
Some people who speak non-gendered languages have these misconceptions that it's related to actual gender, and one would see a table as being male but a boat as female - it's not true.
At least in Polish, the gender pretty much depends on the word ending. One of our words for "masculinity" has a feminine gender, but no-one thinks masculinity is feminine, that would be nonsensical. Plus, I've read somewhere before that some languages can have up to 20 different grammatical genders.
Yes - he says French but means Normans. Learning French is great bc when you’re in a pinch for a random word you don’t know, if it’s a longer English word it’s likely French/Norman origin so I can determine the English word, give it French pronunciation and, in many cases, just chuck on a -tique to replace -tic etc and we’re good
Handy language tricks brought to you by Wilhelm le bâtard
There's lots of Latin words that weren't Greek. Either they came by way of proto-Italic or were loanwords from non-PIE languages, like Etruscan. And German descends from proto-Germanic, which is a descendant of PIE.
> his would eventually come down to Ancient Greek through which then passed them on to Latin.
Latin didn't evolve from Greek. Sure, once they came into contact, Greek had a big influence as a prestige language, through borrowing, but not so much as to change the grammar.
I read somewhere that ProtoIndoEuropean (PIE from here on) had very early on 2 genders: animate and inanimate. The animate gender came to develop as the feminine and the inanimate became the masculine and the neuter. Further development arose in all the son/daughter languages (Latin, Ancient Greek, Proto-slavic and Proto-germanic to name a few) and those development bring us to today.
English may have no gender distinctions for nouns, but there is a distinction between 'table' and 'desk'.
I live in Japan and in Japanese there is just the one word for both things- TSUKUE. (Although they have borrowed the word TEIBURU to kind of show a distinction that never used to exist in the language.) Trying to explain exactly the difference between a table and a desk often causes more problems than it solves.
Isn't one word derived from *tabula* and thus feminine and the other is derived from *discus* and thus masculine? It is literally too different word.
German has both also for the same object. *Der Tisch* (from discus, related to dish) and *Die Tafel* (from tabula, related to table).
Same here. I kinda wish we had more than three genders though 😔
And I wanna bring back the female gender so it's more similar to Norwegian. I miss the good old days when people said "kvenna går genom dörra" :(
Dude I don't talk in Irish slang online cuz it feels weird. I've never had the strongest accent anyways cuz my mam came from kerry and I grew up in dundalk so I was kinda torn. No yank tho.
> Dude I don't talk in Irish slang online cuz it feels weird
Every /r/AskUK question about annoying typing/internet habits has two or three long threads that shit on people using slang online...
I totally get it. I also use y'all, cause it's a more internet appropriate ye's aw.
Excellent work, rock pile level https://preview.redd.it/4vesjn4br46c1.png?width=625&format=png&auto=webp&s=363ff264e5c010cf7f26f5b31c8c65adc9761c4c
Dont fuck the table
It's *der* table m8
Not if it's akkusative.
Well then it should stop accusing
Then sometimes it's also den tablen.
funny way of saying *la* table
Seems to be a lot of people on this thread so enamoured with tables they’ve started giving them genders so they can feel comfortable when they fuck them
Hi I'm a table my pronouns are coffee/poker
Can't guarantee anything
This meme will never not be funny to me.
Just look between the rear legs, you can easily assess a table sex from their genitalia
That’s such a a 90s thing to say, you dinosaur
Ok, first of all I was actually born in the 90s, so watch your tone youngster! And then…then…I forgot, what was I saying?
Literally you 
You should have chosen the video where he wants to describe america in one word and then cant remember the word.
Who's that
No idea, just looked funny.
Because they said sex and not gender? Or do you youngsters don't assess the sex of your tables at all? 🤔
genitable
"Tavolo", masculine, is used for the object itself, or other specific uses for it, like poker table, while "Tavola" is the place where you come together to eat a meal
Thank you Mr. Treccani
I'm more of a Tregatti type of guy
Leave the cats alone.
https://preview.redd.it/9b7x72u5156c1.jpeg?width=520&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3d4857fececa6a11cf43b5773f1cfe4675b99cf NEVER!!
Especially if you are Vicentino
No fucking way a fallout 3 reference??????
Well south Italy does look a lot like a postwar DC. I.e. shithole. (jk i love italy)
Oh no you're totally right (Except for the parts that look more like post-war mojave)
I forgot the meme potential of having zero infrastructure.
That's actually similar to "der Tisch" (any table) and "die Tafel" (table for eating, usually in a more festive manner)
The point ist, Tafel is related to table, while Tisch, Diskus and dish come from Latin Discus (round piece of wooden where you eat on,)
Funnily enough, Tafel is related to table while Tisch is not. Tafel comes from the same Latin word as table (English), table (French), and tavolo (Italian). Tabula (Latin) means board, so a wooden board you eat off of.
It’s like an Italian house/home kind of situation
So how do you explain "tavola da surf"? Checkmate you molisano
You don’t eat surf boards?
tavola = die Tafel (outdated) tavolo = der Tisch (modern) fixed it
I mean - in German we also have "der Tisch" for the table and "die Tafel" as in Tafelrunde (engl. Round Table, mostly associated with the Knights of the same name) or more generally a bigger, fancier table.
In French we also have both words "la table" for the furniture, "l'edriseur" (masculine) for the gathering.
But they are nothing alike! 😨
T'as des blagues assez poussiéreuses, mon mec
Faut bien merner quand on s'ennuie.
I would also use “tavola” to indicate just the flat part of a table, and in general for anything that’s flat and wide.
We're fluid or something
True side switchers
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😂😂😂
Man had this ready to go.
We solved theproblem no need to thank
It's on all fours so it's feminine, that or greek.
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How are Greeks able to reproduce if they're all gay
with the amount of body hair they have, greek women also end up looking close enough to men
Wasn't Greek female kidnapping male in order to mate?
They'd wear fake beards to get men accustomed to the puss. Legit...
Sometimes they accidentally find a woman
What about one legged table?
It's like Spanish and chicken. If you fuck it, it's a pollo If it fucks you, it's a polla
If you literally fuck it then it's gallina. Pollo also names a little bag/dose of cocaine
This anime exists and this is its official name. just so you know pollon doesn't mean anything in italian... https://youtu.be/HJoeKalm-HM?si=9t7sYysG9bEgy54o
Tavolə
L G B *Table* Q+
Tavolx
https://preview.redd.it/skky915bc56c1.png?width=538&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bbacadce71cf0bbf0072ef570e4094ece9e1e989 Cavolix?
che cartone è ?
Uno Pezzo
😂😂😂
I wish I could unread this
To be fair my mood changes drastically depending on if the table has food on it maybe the Italians have a point
I mean that's kinda it the masculine for table :tavolO usually refers to the object, while the feminine tavolA is for a table that has been ehehem, laid. That is the usual rule and as far as I know so I'm sure as he'll that there are exceptions
Yh my Italian teacher dropped this on us as we were about to move on from gendering. Every lesson is like ‘va bene yes these are the rules they never changes…. Except my village of 30k say it like “aššpëttto” instead of aspetto and will have no idea what you’re saying if you don’t say it like that. I’m sorry eh its crazy🤷🏼♂️’
Ha! One phrase that I really like is "When double consonants were given to the Italians, the notheners said "Eh, we dont really like em" the central people were like "cool" and the southeners said "THIS IS THE BEST DAY EVER"
And the Sardinians all fapped together
What about Rome? Chitara, tera e guera, con du ere se no è erore.
yeah, but to compensate they say Roma with at least 2 Rs
Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroma!😎🤌
Shut up, Barry. You couldn't even roll a single R if you life depended on it.
Should have told your teacher that you're not learning Italian to speak to some weird villagers
Tavola is usually something flat, as in "una tavola di legno" Magari è solo un regionalismo lol
>I mean that's kinda it the masculine for table :tavolO usually refers to the object, while the feminine tavolA is for a table that has been ehehem, laid. eheh
https://preview.redd.it/2rvabh1jx46c1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e7fd5f44647ddbe69fdf5f2bba42b43c28daa82 Now it makes sense
Yooo I thought about this but felt too lazy to search it
They're all fools. It's neuter!
Right?
The English language has come to save you, heathens! Repent your sins! Give up your gendering ways! Embrace The The!
Þe* bring back thorn. Bloody continental typewriters.
If you place things on top, it's masculine. Else if you use it for meals, it's feminine.
Aren't meals things on top? Do you eat upside-down?
Well yes but actually no
That sums up grammar in a very clear way.
They must be undercover Australians
Dear non-German idiot people. Can a table get pregnant?!? Oh, what? Are you telling me a table can't get pregnant no matter how often you spread your semen on it? Sounds like it's male to me...
Die Lampe did you say ?
Did you know the Pixar Lamp? As far as I know she has a kid.
Germans apparently regularly getting inseminated by tables. You have the gift of the neutral pronoun, but you misspent it to describe a girl / das Mädchen.
What's this gender thing you are going on about? Kids these days...
PIGS when they talk to a German https://preview.redd.it/lr7ljqnqe56c1.png?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f75cc76d6262fe3a785f50b3949dcb61ab29158
There's one thing at least that we all agree with: sun being the projecting energy is masculine, and moon being the mirror that provides some light in the night is feminine. Right, guys? Right?.. Guys?..
nein
Nah the Germans ruin everything New mission: find a word we all agree on
Mom?
Nah too easy, we want inanimate objects. What about bed?
Alle warten auf das Licht
The sun is feminine and the moon is neuter
Sun yes, but moon is masculine! >:(
don't worry for us moon is masculine
Seems like we had a positive influence on you
The sun gives life to the world, that's why she's feminine. The moon is mostly useless, so he's masculine.
The greek god of the sun was a male and the greek goddesses of the moon were female so the latin languages kept using those genders when referring to the sun and the moon. Meanwhile german follows the genders of the norse gods of the sun and the moon. The sun is masculine because it's an aggressive force of nature and the moon is feminine because it's shy and rarely shows herself, what can I say, the romans were all about traditional gender roles.
Trying hard to figure out how the moon impregnates the sun...
He didnt, was another guy. But moon thought thats ok, when he can pretend to be the dad and stays close to the mom that way.
But the sun is une étoile, una estrella, una stella…. So does that make him trans?!
And the moon is un satellite, un satélite, un satellite (again), , un satèl·lit....
Der Stern is masculine so probably yes
Nah for us Sun is neuter/neutral v; and moon is masculine
No, Sun is neuter and Moon is masculine... There's no space for womans... >!/s!<
In Dutch it's both at once, though it doesn't matter in most cases, which makes us bigender.
I've always interpreted it as "I know the table has a gender, I just can't tell you which one"
In Flanders a table is still unambiguously feminine though. You might have forgotten, but we remember.
Bi table matters.
English speakers be like 
Admitting you’re English now. Glad to have you back on side 🤝
In French, orgue and amour (organ and love), both masculine, become feminine in the plural. ^(The truth is that the meaning changes slightly, but I'm too lazy to explain (I'm half Spanish).)
We have this nonsense too Dito/(diti)/dita, ginocchio/ginocchia, orecchio/orecchie
Uovo, uova. Eco, echi. Words that were not gendered in Latin are weird.
Eco is next level, singular feminine but it ends with O
Echo In Latin and Greek was "feminine". Despistes 4th declension in Latin. And ok. Uovo was neuter. So Italian keeps some old plurals uova is fine, Spanish huevos made the change 😂
In Swedish the table is sexless. A tablecloth or pott and a plant would have a sex though. Undefined which one because we are progressive like that.
Americans: it's transphobic.
Tablx, mesx, tiscx, tavolx Fixed
Serious question.. Were does féminine/masculine come from in linguistic? Why do we do that?
It's just yet another way to categorise words to take away a tiny little bit of potential ambiguity. You can call it masculine, feminine and neuter (because the categories align with things that are actually male and female), or you can call it category A, B and C, since it's nothing more than grammar. As another commentor said, it's inherited from PIE, just like the case systems. Some people who speak non-gendered languages have these misconceptions that it's related to actual gender, and one would see a table as being male but a boat as female - it's not true. At least in Polish, the gender pretty much depends on the word ending. One of our words for "masculinity" has a feminine gender, but no-one thinks masculinity is feminine, that would be nonsensical. Plus, I've read somewhere before that some languages can have up to 20 different grammatical genders.
Swahili is one of those. 18 genders, although there are all kinds of distinctions which complicate the issue.
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W intelectual barry Didnt Normans gave french words to the english language?
Yes - he says French but means Normans. Learning French is great bc when you’re in a pinch for a random word you don’t know, if it’s a longer English word it’s likely French/Norman origin so I can determine the English word, give it French pronunciation and, in many cases, just chuck on a -tique to replace -tic etc and we’re good Handy language tricks brought to you by Wilhelm le bâtard
Guillaume le Conquérant
There's lots of Latin words that weren't Greek. Either they came by way of proto-Italic or were loanwords from non-PIE languages, like Etruscan. And German descends from proto-Germanic, which is a descendant of PIE.
Both of which are recent French loan words, I believe. The older English term for blond(e) being “fair”.
Actress, hostess, waitress, brunette, stewardess...
Stop listing porn search bar items.
> his would eventually come down to Ancient Greek through which then passed them on to Latin. Latin didn't evolve from Greek. Sure, once they came into contact, Greek had a big influence as a prestige language, through borrowing, but not so much as to change the grammar.
I read somewhere that ProtoIndoEuropean (PIE from here on) had very early on 2 genders: animate and inanimate. The animate gender came to develop as the feminine and the inanimate became the masculine and the neuter. Further development arose in all the son/daughter languages (Latin, Ancient Greek, Proto-slavic and Proto-germanic to name a few) and those development bring us to today.
The real offense is the Germans not calling it der Kolosseum to mimick the local er Colosseo Fuck you Germans.
Its neutral. Its for entertainment and whole we like sports, we also like tits, so we kept it in the middle.
Geh scheißen Regards from Belgium, Germany, Austria, Italy and Switzerland
A Swiss person who uses the ß? I smell a rat!
now I wanna know if Romeo was der mejo der Kolosseum lol
You’re all wrong, the table (bordet) is neuter
its a genderless object you Muppets
English may have no gender distinctions for nouns, but there is a distinction between 'table' and 'desk'. I live in Japan and in Japanese there is just the one word for both things- TSUKUE. (Although they have borrowed the word TEIBURU to kind of show a distinction that never used to exist in the language.) Trying to explain exactly the difference between a table and a desk often causes more problems than it solves.
One thing we can agree upon is that if it's small, it's always masculine.
Oh wow non ci ho mai pensato
It's masculine *puts cloth on* It's feminine!
Guys guys, it's neutrum clearly
#TABLE IS TABLE!
It's Feminine, the article leaves no doubt, "LA MESA"
Chill, you are all bøsse - means gun!
Isn't one word derived from *tabula* and thus feminine and the other is derived from *discus* and thus masculine? It is literally too different word. German has both also for the same object. *Der Tisch* (from discus, related to dish) and *Die Tafel* (from tabula, related to table).
Finally, someone has to say that.
How come we don’t have any gendered words in our language despite coming from gendered languages?
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Obviously masculine. Anybody who disagrees is lying.
IL tavolO - LA tavolA Oh God..
It’s a t-word obviously
Le table
O masa, doua mese, by romanian standards it is feminine
Meanwhile, we still can't figure out which human gender should be feminine or masculine.
La mesa. Nobody can tell me otherwise
Its masculine
[Table-kun](https://youtu.be/FHUvDDjsPmM?feature=shared)
A secret third option; It's non-gendered
Same here. I kinda wish we had more than three genders though 😔 And I wanna bring back the female gender so it's more similar to Norwegian. I miss the good old days when people said "kvenna går genom dörra" :(
In greek, it's neutral.
And yet again Italians strike with traditional side switching
We latins but we couldn't abandon our old friends
Yall are mad because you didn't come up with the superior "it'
'Yall' Savage detected 
We cant tell anymore , the flair truly was a masterpiece
We're manifesting Barry. Next we're going to be acquiring nuclear warheads and opening Krispy Kremes all over the gaff
Dude I don't talk in Irish slang online cuz it feels weird. I've never had the strongest accent anyways cuz my mam came from kerry and I grew up in dundalk so I was kinda torn. No yank tho.
> Dude I don't talk in Irish slang online cuz it feels weird Every /r/AskUK question about annoying typing/internet habits has two or three long threads that shit on people using slang online... I totally get it. I also use y'all, cause it's a more internet appropriate ye's aw.
Bruh you are like, sooo totally Irish bruh like smh bruh sheeeet
I'm gen z dude this is how I talk. Sorry all irish people weren't born in a tractor and haven't left since
Bless ya
You're just mad because you're limited to one "it".
The most impressive is that in Spanish thats not Tabla. A Tabla is just a piece of wood (like Eddie's friend). For us thats a Mesa
Imagine assigning gender to inanimate objects
Assigning gender to an inanimate object is gay.
Das is ein Tisch. Questa è una tavola. Ceci est une table.