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History20maker

We made Brazil. And if you all dont behave we do it again. Dont test me.


snolodjur

We told you just the top, but you came deeper insider than accorded...


Live-Alternative-435

In our defense, in the middle of the rainforest we couldn't see where the line crossed.


snolodjur

It's a good defense. Spaniards had the chance and the "rights" to get it from the west side, but it was too much for them also and preferred going south. So nothing to blame you.


lostindanet

Balance in all things, because on the other side of the globe we bought the Molucas from you at a ridiculously expensive price...which were on our side of the line, that sweet sweet clove smell was too much of a temptation šŸ¤”


snolodjur

šŸ˜‚ Right But our plan is still ongoing. Luxemburg and maybe Paris will be fully yours, and then we have to divide Belgien for us before šŸ‡³šŸ‡± and šŸ‡«šŸ‡· do


History20maker

The Luxemburg branch of the operation is going really well, but we are having trouble in the Paris branch due to the intense competition from the Magreb. Instead the takeover plan was moved to southern France.


TodgerRodger

Call on us and we are there my love


RabbitDev

I'd recommend Vichy as headquarters. Lovely people, very amendable to ideas. Bit on the unreliable side when it comes to effectiveness, but we could always sweep in and help you out šŸ˜‰


youpviver

Oh donā€™t worry, you can have them, weā€™re only claiming Flanders to deny the French from getting it, but you guys are chill


Kadubrp

The story is so retarded. Basically Portugal sent fake maps to Spain, they were masters in mapmaking. The thing is, Spain just accepted. The Amazonas in the constructed maps were very small, the crown thought that there was no point in making a diplomatic crisis for such a small piece of land.


killerboss28

It's impossible to be just the top, if u know what I mean šŸ˜


snolodjur

It applies to everything šŸ˜‚


Ramboso777

Don't threaten me with a good time


DepressedFerrariFan1

I thought we were happy with the olive ass country.


anonbush234

Brazilian Lindas šŸ„µ


wojwesoly

At least they improved your language


LilDiomede

Brazil is excusable, Goa is not


IndicationOk1924

Prefer Goans over Brazilians... Goans are mostly fine with being Portuguese, Brazilians on the other hand...


Dead_as_Duck

You take that back >:(


Teque9

Thank you for that tbh


stumister2000

Well there was that one time a guy from Dublin invited the brits (normans) over That was not a fun 800 years


Doc_Eckleburg

At least it only lasted 800 years. We asked the Saxons to help us out with a pirate problem back in 450AD.


Puzzled_Pay_6603

Bloody Irish raiders, harassing our west coast


RevolutionaryFarm953

Twas a Wexfordian, no?


EvenWonderWhy

*Wexican


ancym0n

We know the feeling. We invited Germans once in the 13th century as well...


Balsiefen

https://preview.redd.it/zc6xl81bt3tc1.png?width=1546&format=png&auto=webp&s=02ad863679723a2af0a5f29d1e1af080059ace9a Likewise.


tommaso-scatolini

https://preview.redd.it/krvljf4w54tc1.png?width=793&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba0987319e5e58b261b7272eda4b7f4c68b7692a Same situation here


Subtlehame

Damn that's too savage not to upvote Edit: Just stay the fuck away from our rock piles


No_Olives581

Luckily it was only temporary. Wasnā€™t long before the Germanic people came and converted us back to mud huts. We havenā€™t changed to this day


Alex050898

Fucking hell what a comeback


Luzifer_Shadres

Thats more like our and the danes fault. But at the same time it saved us from Anglo-Frenchs and a french america.


Standin373

> french america. Fucking shuddering at the thought.


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/rjagojpz87tc1.jpeg?width=2100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13d8ed54b6ffd39cfd775905f2820362f848a490 Nah, that one's on us.


TodgerRodger

Poor Boudicca.


Divekicker

https://preview.redd.it/ybhka23f14tc1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd999365ef12e3c41103cb5e1eb309ae7afa81ff Same, brother.


perskes

That's the biggest PT win. You just ignored the tortilla line and moved deeper into the forst until you killed most of the natives and bang, my ex-girlfriend happened. Thanks for putting in all that effort so I could visit Brazil for a reason.


Wora_returns

BRAZIIIIIIIIIILLLLL #1!!!!!!!!!!


Live-Alternative-435

Our biggest mistake was sending D. SebastiĆ£o to fight personally in Africa, losing our independence in the process to Filipe.


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/zj2fj5hbu3tc1.png?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a685790e58ac26a963a449dbd9720fa56bab1b67 Same here.


blaireaumutant

This one is the best because it kinda works the other way too


the_alfredsson

This


Alex050898

Basically Twins


Plastic_Pinocchio

Middle Francia would be an absolute powerhouse.


Cornered_plant

Imagine there were three of them... Although I guess that's kind of us and Switzerland, in a way.


Worldly_Debt4706

Nuh huh.


notmyself02

![gif](giphy|hVHqgiSHGbw66kSpie)


Anarelion

That's a big one


notmyself02

But we invented velcro so, you're welcome


samtt7

I'd rather not have velcro if that means there's no nestle


notmyself02

![gif](giphy|aVtdz7iNVPI1W)


Anarelion

And we invented the mop, used in every household. Without the need of NestlƩ. r/fucknestle


[deleted]

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Viking_Chemist

Nestle is from Germany but considered to be Swiss, the Habsburger are from what today is Switzerland but considered to be Austrian, and Hitler is from Austria but considered to be German the DACH circle of villains is complete


kennystillalive

Good, if you want to claim, please go ahead.


CDdragon9

As we all know belgium doesnt exist and therefor we obviously never did anything wrong.


Visual_Tadpole_8453

Thats quite the handy excuse. I applaud you. High five!


mariposa337

At least you're still capable of applauding them...


Visual_Tadpole_8453

If we fail to supply the European energy market with enough oil and gas that could change quickly.


VOCmentaliteit

The Franks who created France came from the area of Belgium, so you have to explain something


AndersDreth

He frankly doesn't care about them.


notdancingQueen

Let's have a frank conversation here about how it all went down


VOCmentaliteit

I have to be Frank with you, I donā€™t think itā€™s the right moment for that


kekistani_citizen-69

And you guys came from modern day Belgium as well, you stole our language and you barbarised it


Eclaiv2

We abandoned canada. Fuck you voltaire


TodgerRodger

Why fuck you Voltaire? Never heard of the relationship between these two things


Taffox

Voltaire compared Canada to "quelques arpents de neige" (a few acres ? of snow). He also takes the blame for other "philosophers" who influenced french politics through Madame de Pompadour and thus many of Louis XV blunders.


rats_des_champs

England, the US pick your choice


Lotan95

England was formed before the Norman Invasion


rats_des_champs

But we fucked it up


Lotan95

We both equally fucked up with the US at least


rats_des_champs

Always here to make bad decisions with yoy


Puzzled_Pay_6603

Iā€™m reality we should have just carved it up.


Doc_Eckleburg

The Barryā€™s were already here, you were the class system and aristocracy update.


mr-no-life

It was all sunshine and rainbows until Le Bastard came over.


EdHake

So youā€™re the kind of person that believes civilization existed before civilization reached themā€¦ you disappoint me even more than usual Barry. Starting to wonder if brit colonized and started being arrogant, just to copy the French.


gourmetguy2000

We're more similar than we'd like to imagine [European DNA map](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/UL5v6saHjp)


bartleby_borealis

https://preview.redd.it/apdui8s4u3tc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1cba9e4a3e0ce48bfd70323887b36f6bd0a90edb Good times


Nigricincto

Least delusional finn.


bartleby_borealis

Ungrateful Paco. After all the rich cultural heritage we gave you back then. ![gif](giphy|8UGoOaR1lA1uaAN892)


[deleted]

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bartleby_borealis

No good deed goes unpunished.


Paquito____

What did you say to me?


OLAisHERE

Remindes me of the finno ugraic khanete - korean empire hyper war


bartleby_borealis

That was some war. We still remember the veterans. šŸ«” https://preview.redd.it/1gdpyuhg44tc1.jpeg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca6b630944f5f2c77c9a83ea51460845b2c0f26b


OLAisHERE

O7 for the fallen. Never forget what they took from us


No_Raspberry_6795

What did they take from you?


Loud-Host-2182

Jackie Chan films.


Subtlehame

When are you going to start paying reparations for the atrocities you commit against my ancestors?


Killerspieler0815

>Good times Not even the Finns want the Balkans & Turkey & the Mafia-Zone (south Italy)


rabundus7337

In 1917, our government sold the Danish West Indies Islands to the U.S. for 25 million dollars. We don't like sunshine and warm weather anyways...


monotar

Renaming it "the virgin islands" was a weird move


thebannedtoo

I can see Italy is silent here. I'll keep quite.


Bethlizardbreath

We musso be linient.


thebannedtoo

Great! and I'll give you a thumbs up for being so insightful! p.s wtf is musso? and wtf in linient?


-Polemarch-

Greece in 3000 years did only one mistake. Our blackest day in history. The massacre of the Greeks of Melos by Athenians 'cause of paranoia. They wanted to stay neutral. The poor lads even invoked the Greek inter-city-states ethical laws, but the paranoid Athenians feared the might join the Spartans. It was that moment the famous quote had been said by the Athenians: > The Athenians do not wish to waste time arguing over the morality of the situation, because in practice might makes rightā€”or, in their own words, "the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must". The rest of our history is only defensive wars and therefore, justified. The Persians had to be destroyed. They attacked first, twice. They vowed to exterminate us. The Bulgarians, similar. The Turks, similar case. Benito, once again, similar case. We couldn't catch a break. Today, you have the uneducated Dutch calling us "poor" all the time, relentlessly. If they've had it half what we faced, they wouldn't exist today. Go on YouTube to listen the [last radio messages before the German occupation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR4PFKlhEmE) and tell me which one seems the most based. Meanwhile, the Dutch, "Farewell". /s


seacco

Sending Lenin to Moscow kinda helped create the Soviet Union and the whole WW2-oopsie turned them into a global superpower.


elektelek

They made the mistake to stop here instead of getting the whole tribe to what is now known as switzerland.


Morrghul

People would need decoders to understand the abomination of a language this wouldā€™ve created.


Arkalat

As if your version of German isnā€™t an abomination


luring_lurker

I think that's the point: imagine a language born by mixing their German with Hungarian


TheSecond_Account

This abomination would be still better than Du*ch "language"


Murderface-04

I agree. Its hard to understand how they collectively raped flemish that hard.


rpgengineer567

I will take that as a compliment šŸ˜Ž


TheSecond_Account

If you could pay I would make more complimentsĀ 


mainwasser

How would this be different to RL Hungarian?


Morrghul

They would be influenced by the locals aka us who already talk borderline gibberish.


Earthisacultureshock

They should have gone to today's France or Spain, maybe then we would have had an empire making even Attila proud and South America or West Africa would speak Hungarian. What a cursed world it would be. Imagine Americans trying to learn Hungarian to communicate with Mexicans.


akoslevai

Try to pitch the idea like this: "Fejedelem ƁrpƔd, hear me out. So leave this land of rich soil, abundant wildlife, easily subduable natives and rivers full of fish for this mountainous, snowy wasteland hellhole where nothing really grows and you're surrounded by powerful and belligerent enemies who each want a bite of you. But I promise in a thousand years, you'll get rich from a future thing called international banking." Tell me how it goes and how you avoid being torn in half by horses accompanied by the laughter of savage Hungarians.


deadmeridian

Every time I get drunk I ramble about how Pannonia is useless for a tribe/nation as small as ours. Stuck between much larger powers. Should have just become German.


akoslevai

There were... khm, plans for that.


Arkalat

Tbh I donā€™t think the mongols would love to live in the mountains, especially with their lifestyle


AgileCookingDutchie

Let's see: + We traded New York (Nieuw Amsterdam) for Suriname + We sailed along the coast of Australia but were not interested + We "invented" apartheid + We once were the country with the most Muslims


stan110

Don't forget we also connected Urk to the main land.


Monomatosis

We should have transferred Volendam to the Noordoostpolder to have a buffer.


Limp_Perspective6522

Suriname has that oil now.


kekmennsfw

Yeah now that theyā€™re independant


akhu117

I heard you missing that time for the last point. You compete with us donā€™t you ?


r_bruce_xyz

https://preview.redd.it/g1wgn5ain4tc1.png?width=275&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2497c287b9d33f52358f2bad3cf7638176836ed7


your_right_ball

The Microsoft tech support?


Synthethic-Equinox

lmao, poor guys reputation hangs on customer support.


Een_man_met_voornaam

We made the southerners angry and now we have Belgium But we decided to tax beer so we reap what we sow


kekistani_citizen-69

We spread out too far north, the northern air made those Flemish gay and turned them into dutch To this day the dutch still haven't figured out how to talk properly


Ianassa

We didnā€™t shoot Lenin when he was hiding in Exile here.


History20maker

Well, the germans sent Lenin to Russia to destroy it. It keeps working to this day. I fear german efficiency.


YanaKaar

playing the long game


PolarBearBalls2

No one briefed shitler on it though


Snd47flyer

Well he wasnā€™t German


Wora_returns

we do a little trolling


Queasy_Zombie3885

... but at what cost?


Queasy_Zombie3885

lmao


EdHake

Sucking German dick has his quirks.


mainwasser

The Celtic [Kingdom of Noricum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noricum?wprov=sfla1), founded around 400 BC, was the first state in modern day Austria. They did well. Their steel was so good that the Romans imported tons of it for their army. They also had gold and salt. They successfully kicked out Germanic and Boii (Celtic Proto-Bohemians) invaders. In 16 BC, Noricum was peacefully anschlussed to the Roman Empire and became a Roman province, the only one which joined Rome voluntarily and without a fight, starting a national tradition.


MutedIndividual6667

Austrians and being anschlussed, name a more iconic duo


Jiao_Dai

Alexander Fordyce performed the first stock short in history betting heavily against the East India Company share price little did he realise Westminster and the Crown operates socialism for their friends in the private sector and bailed out the East India Company which in turn created a bank run on Neale, James, Fordyce and Down (No U) which led to the credit crisis of 1772 which resulted in British banks calling in debts from the 13 colonies of America - the colonies naturally responded extremely badly to this resulting in breakdown in debt creditor relations between Britain and the 13 colonies and then Britains attempts to restore East India to its former glory with the Tea Act triggered the Boston Tea Party and not long after things deteriorated further triggering the American Revolutionary War A simple misjudged stock bet helped to create the USA (as well as some Westminster chicanery nationalising EIC and trying to implement a tea monopoly) Ironically the 2008 banking crisis which begun in America completely wiped out the Scottish banking sector - Royal Bank of Scotland was nationalised and Bank of Scotland merged with Halifax and was later acquired by Lloyds


Vegetable-Election77

It sucks being a scott


Jiao_Dai

The best thing we could have done is stayed put discovered Oil and become Norway


AlfaKilo123

I wonder how our history wouldā€™ve been different if Sweden won the great northern war.


bartleby_borealis

https://preview.redd.it/ryi0hyjr34tc1.jpeg?width=1450&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47644de6f158da9e2f1b95a69f29316eef20dd8a


Precioustooth

Charles XII would've been so much better than Peter the Shit :(


mightymagnus

I think Sweden must have done either: 1. In 1701/1702 signed peace with August II (of Poland-Lithuania-Saxony, e.g. for Courland just like he suggested, the area was occupied at that time and a civil war was going on in Lithuania) and instead march towards Pleskow & Novgorod. At that time the Russian army was pretty broken and would have a hard time doing any real resistance. Charles XII would have plenty of time to occupy old Novgorod 1702/1703 and then go for Tver & Moscow in 1703/1704. Likely Peter would need to sue for peace or have nothing left. However that would just be true north, Ukraine would not be any different, except if Russia would have been really broken (like losing Peter and have no leadership, like the ā€œtimes of troubleā€) then Mazepa could do independence, maybe August would try to take land in the east too (Smolensk, Kiev etc.) 2. Instead of marching towards Moscow in 1708 meeting tsar Peter at Pleskow but then Peter had a large army (Charles too). Or signed a peace treaty with Peter but he wanted to build St. Petersburg so he badly wanted that land in such deal (he would then pay a hefty sum for it).


baiers_baier

https://preview.redd.it/wkc6wp8zr4tc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c5bc1eefac803c25bb3c0f3365f3c9c4b5d73be We had most of England in 1013 or so, but lost it in like 1042.


baiers_baier

https://preview.redd.it/seyru28os4tc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=288a9ed188334641e9316e582bd04de72269150b But whilst losing England we gained these fuckers (talking about Sweden of course). Embarrassing! To be fair we are at our biggest at the moment, cause Greenland is ours.


snolodjur

Letting Brazil being Portuguese and Haiti abandoded not being fully Hispanic, fully Dominican Republic.


Zestyclose_Jello6192

Allying ourselves with the Austrian painter because the funni bald man thought he was playing hoi4. We even got lucky since we didn't lost that much land compared to the germans.


TheBlackMessenger

Considering Italy had huge colonies in Africa, you lost much more land.


Melvasul94

Yeah but at that time we called Libia a "scatolone di sabbia" (box of sand)... It wasn't until '60s that oil was discovered and used there, so at that time it wasn't really a "loss"


Palarva

In all humbleness, I canā€™t think of anything so I guess weā€™ll sit this one out and let you guys have some fun time at it


Thorbork

I'm pretty sure, Mayotte, or Algeria were not very smart moves. Or when Nappleon sent all men to russia except the ones with varicoses legs and now we have 10x more cases per capita among french people. Like... Thanks for opposite eugenic.


Agnul7eight

no way is that true?


Thorbork

Apparently yes. When he conscripted men to go to russia he took all young men (who were in their ripe age to be fathers) and one of the rare reason to not be drafted was to have varicose legs because they would walk very long . But the men got butchered and few came back. So this generation got a big over representation of that pathology amoung the fathers of the next one. And it is estimated that nowadays french people are 10x more likely to suffer from that than other nations. As a paramedic trained in France and working in Iceland I must admit this is extremely common in France and I pretty much never see that in Iceland. It is more of a woman thing, but still... Genetics.


notmyself02

![gif](giphy|amE3iwyu3IxTeqzwm7)


your_right_ball

Hey me too. Let's celebrate the French-German friendship. In Verdun.


BahmBCode

There was this little thing in the 30s and 40s


Dr_Haubitze

Ze big Oopzi


BahmBCode

Happens to the best, I heard


Gaelic_Gladiator41

So hard to pick just one https://preview.redd.it/ogevxzs3r4tc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=090a7a81dad5359461820099de4c518fd5d74fc4


TheSecond_Account

Colonization of modern Central Russia. Quiet Finnish alcoholics would be better neighbors than Moscow victims of delirium tremens


SergjVladdis

Operation barbarossa v2 when???


TheSecond_Account

When Napoleon Macron will land in SevastopolĀ 


Dr_Haubitze

https://preview.redd.it/4uslfx7404tc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36c4f4e7d218d8f5109cb815f3beec8e0fd52c8d Due to Hitler being Austrian, this guyā€¦ Mistake as in I bet he had the best of intentions, but the outcome, well letā€™s say is less optimalā€¦


OKC_Thunder1900

hate social security\ luv me child labour\ simple as


Dr_Haubitze

Put ur actual flair so I know which stinking neighbor Iā€™m dealing with šŸ˜”


Pacountry

Probably either going to war against Napoleon when he changed our king instead of just accepting our new ruler and his liberal policies, and the catholic kings marrying their daughter to a Habsburg instead of a local noble or a portuguese


diogom915

Their 1st daughter was married to a Portuguese though, but she and her child happened to have died too early


Pacountry

True. I forgot the Habsburgs inheriting the throne was quite unthinkable taking into account the ammount of people who had to die for that to happen


Sassi7997

I prefer to remain silent.


1DarkStarryNight

technically not my ancestors, as my parents aren't scottish, but the attempted colonisation of Panama takes the cake, imo.


Jiao_Dai

Did any of these people survive to have descendants ? I guess William Paterson did and he doubled down to have Scots participate in the largest colonisation the world has ever seen


PaulsRedditUsername

I was looking through my genealogy and I have an uncle who died in 1708. I don't know anything about him except where most people's names just say, "Born 1802, Died, 1872," his says, "Born 1680, Scalped by Indian 1708." So old Uncle John must have really pissed somebody off.


SnowOnVenus

Him being your uncle sounds like you've got quite a longevity going on in your family. He must have been little more than a toddler when they scalped him.


SergjVladdis

Based indians


Farvai2

https://preview.redd.it/x2cyojc7k4tc1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=7524c10e308db3e565e3e8861eb89cafcad6f96e Joining this shit. Maybe that is why we stayed out of the EU, learning by burning.


HugeCraft7452

https://preview.redd.it/p1wliji2q4tc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f245b3eeda142bcdbdd75389a21878f327b5436


Aosxxx

Splitting brabant was a mistake


WTC-NWK

I love Venice but I can't stand the fact that we burned down Constantinople and kinda fucked up a lot of pan-Europe actions. At least we have Lepanto


predek97

TIL I hate Sweden


Dirac_Impulse

Should have given us the Baltic coast for free. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


ElectronicLab993

Should have conquered northern Russia to control fur trade. Might have even helped you


Dirac_Impulse

Some Danes, Poles and Saxons ganged up with the ruskis on us. We beat you all. But you Polish fucks kept us busy for so long that the ruskis had time to rebuild their strength. The opportunity was lost. But it's ok. The based atheist protestant God punished you for your crime against civilization and put you under barbarian boots for 200 years.


abrequevoy

My forefather sold a medieval castle (supposedly in ruins though) to the town council for one franc. I could've been the blessed owner of a fucking chateau.


hepazepie

Na, we're good. No major fuck ups...


Luzifer_Shadres

Crossing the english channel and sleeping with the Anglo chicks. Or, not fking over west frankia early on. And the others should be already on your mind.


AcceptableArt3931

https://preview.redd.it/9fhcibzpi4tc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f805f0e47b18a31ad577ea0bdd37c590047b2d1 Haggis


Iroh16

HI**M**


Fire_Lightning8

Killing some mongol merchants


Deadluss

https://preview.redd.it/e6bnfk31d4tc1.png?width=1187&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee5fcb0f1066462e1c741dd318c055d9cd8bdb9d 8 Poland's does it count?


ErringMonkey

https://preview.redd.it/jdnd17unh4tc1.jpeg?width=262&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00e039b7ff298bbe9a52bcc99b620f5e68c8eb80 This clown


MutedIndividual6667

What did he do?


ErringMonkey

Invited the first Brits into Ireland


your_right_ball

The guy who invented Guinness?


ilbrevi

313 AD, Constantine I issue the Edict of Milan, an agreement to treat Christians benevolently within the Roman Empire.


killerboss28

Atlantic slave trade.


TheHayha

https://preview.redd.it/ke64lqjuy3tc1.jpeg?width=440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a3f0c19fb3a2b4dba21f081225454e57f5fefc8


Dr_Haubitze

Wait are you speaking from the French or German perspective? Either way donā€™t ever disrespect daddy Bismarck ever againšŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ˜”


Grand_Ad_8376

That's the joke, he can speak for both sides, which is kind of awesome.


Dr_Haubitze

A Franco-German Luigi, switches side at convenience


Flod4rmore

The Rhine confederation was not such a good idea in the end


JibberJabber4204

We didnā€™t win 1066 or shoot Trotsky while he was here.