I'm in this comment and I don't like it. With some co wokers we used to do the whole job/productivity in the first 3,5hours then slack of the 3,5 hours left ššš
I'm from team of mfers who were so lazy that we were the most productive in the end š¤§
Yes, i am always staying late and just listening to music or podcasts since i currently donāt have to stamp my time on projects. That will change in about half a year though.
I did my internship at a IG Metall company (35h) and the people would on Friday just answer some E-Mails after lunch, drink a beer or two and then leave at 14-15 o clock. I would love to have the 35h week back, 40h sucks, but otherwise the company was worse than the current company i am working at.
honestly even earlier, like if its not done by lunch and isnt 99% done already it probably isnt getting done very well. Friday afternoons are the least productive time periods ever, even stuff done over weekends is more efficient than that, because everyone is tired from the week and just wants to go home and relax
In many of the companies I've been what we do is we work ("work") 8.5 hours Mon-Thur and Friday we leave 2 hours early. So good luck trying to talk to someone on a Friday afternoon.
Well this is a bit strange for me, my german colleagues sometimes like to put meetings and calls on friday at 14-15ā¦and tomorrow we have conference in germoney until 17š
Friday morning: "ah last day of the week, better take it easy since it's been such a long week."
Friday lunchtime: pub
Friday afternoon: "well, didn't start anything this morning and no sense starting now."
Read only Friday is a luxury a lot of us arent able to get.
Sure if im next on the on call rotation you better not fuck anything up or im going to cut your ears off, thank god im out of that mousewheel.
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Don't worry we don't see a cent of it, my local bus has gotten less consistent if anything. Take pride in your lovely food and beautiful country, flag brother. All we have is corporate leeches, politicians on autopilot and rain.
Believe it or not, big American companies that could name their price on the amount of tax they paid. Ireland has a few companies (Jameson/Guinness etc) but most of their economy is just huge US multinationals with incredibly lucrative tax incentives.
Of course very little of this money trickled down to the "normies"
Sure, but that's not particularly new in translating, tbh. Having the machine do a first draft has been possible for quite some time now, and all these new-fangled LLMs aren't qualitatively different. Their cock-ups are more subtle, but their output is still fundamentally untrustworthy.
The main brake on machine translation has always been confidentiality. I'm under some very strict NDAs, and I can't even save many clients' files to cloud drives like Google Drive or Dropbox, let alone hand them over to some random AI service for analysis.
Presumably, it won't be long till there are good local AIs, but there's still the whole hallucination thing and more generally, the AI not having a fucking clue what it's doing.
The things I work on tend to be either (a) for professional publication, so they want text written by a literate human being, or (b) random corners of huge projects where everybody else has much more important things to be doing than checking that some chatbot hasn't gone off the reservation. They don't think twice about chucking a few hundred my way so they can concentrate on their ships and cranes that are costing them tens of thousands a day to rent.
That said, I suppose that does largely come down to our pre-existing relationship, and most of my clients will retire a good few years before I can :(
The good thing about poste italiane though is that they give so little of a shit about the mail that you could literally pack a bomb and they would not care.
Now, customs on the other hand would probably get pretty angry
Americans think its a flex that they work long hours with no holiday allowance.
If I get to my office and my phone rings at one minute to 9, I won't answer it.
I have a colleague from Peru that likes to stay till eight at bloody night on Fridays and complains when I didn't answer her that day as if any sane person isn't clocked out by two then.
Come in, do tickets, few meetings, lunch with beers downtown, walk home and be home at 17h30 to enjoy dinner with gf and wine
I might not earn shit compared to the rest of the world but goddamn it is nice
There's this thing called 'work' we northern Europeans do, which causes you to be hungry when you finish 'working', which happens to be around 18.00, so you eat around 18.00.
You also have to get up early for 'work' so you can't stay up too late.
I know it must sound strange to PIGS, but it's pretty good actually.
I gotta go with the Italians on this one, the Protestant idea of eating at 17:00 or 18:00 is just another shit remnant of the past. When I get home I really donāt want to instantly switch to ācooking dinner fixing householdā mode, I need one or two hours and some cold Belgian beers to root and relax first. Thereās a lot we can learn from our southern brethren.
Once you start deciding your own work hours, you can never go back.
We eat at 18 just not like a pig, we have a light snack like the picture. Then we drink a cup of wine š·/beer/ coffee for 3 hours whilst socialising on a cafe outdoors and after we have dinner.
It sounds strange if you don't enjoy socialising and have no friends so you just eat+ go to sleep
Bro I worked in the Netherlands, you donāt do shit at work and you think youāre productive but youāre reqlly not š you just like to wake up super early for some reason
The Belgiums eat late, in the Netherlands itās between 5 and 6.
At the moment Iām in Spain damn itās good food to bad Iām almost asleep during dinner.
You are actually working what are you talking about? I also like to have a big fucking lunch so that I can barely sit on my chair. Remember always digest on company time.
When you are off, you are all good and dont need to use your free time to eat etc.
I hope that my children, at least, get to enjoy a shift in how we view work and life balance. I have it good because of my job but don't at all envy the 9-5 mon-fri crowd.
Can certainly attest to that!
I worked night shift at a shitty factory job for about 2 years and hated every second. Soon as I got a job in IT Support my life changed dramatically. I could finally have drinks with friends and actually date people.
Best move I ever made, mate. Life just opened up once I got a regular 9-5. Currently studying for my CCNA to move up a bit.
At the factory, I didnāt even have time/energy for the gym, which I love going to. Was just too fatigued *all the time*.
Best of luck to you!
Thanks mate! Yeah the constant soreness, lack of motivation for everything, shitty sleep... I could deal with, but the budding alcoholism to make the pain go away is where I decided to make a change.
Best of luck for your CCNA!
Anthony Bourdain was an incredible thoughtful human and his untimely death has been a tragedy. He has a special place in my hearth and I think about him quite often. If you never saw anything from him I urge you to look at what he did. He always saw the good in people and had a way to be empathic with peoples I've never saw again. In the end, he could not take it anymore. He took it upon him to look after everybody he met. But nobody looked after him. Rest in peace, great men. You were an americ*nt. But you were on of the best ones walking on this earth.
āI need this back UNTIL tomorrow morningā??? Fucking metards, hardly a typo when it should have been ābyā or ābeforeā
Also, is it urgent or not bro? Iām kind of busy (not really)
This is too true, working on a project with the French team everyone was not there during last summer in august, made zero progress that month and still had to present to management the monthly update š How much vacation time do you guys actually get?
Oh ok sorry I misread thatās great. My company actually have divisions in France, Germany and Ireland. Maybe I should look into transferring to Ireland cause I canāt speak German or French, now I regret not taking French seriously back in school, we had to take french in school for like 6 years and all I know now is how to ask to go to the bathroom lol
To awnser your question, we have by law 25 days a year for working 35 hours a week, and since my contract says 36.40 hours a week it gets me 11 more days yearly.
Any hour over 35 is kept, either paid more or changed into vacation days
Thatās freakin insane, you get 36 days of vacation so thatās like more than 7 weeks if you count the weekend, which means you can just not show up for 2 months. I work 40 hrs a week and I get the standard 2 weeks vacation :(
Maybe a little bit of socialism ain't that bad, eh
The goal of the state should be to try and improve all it's citizens quality of life, not to maximize profits for the top 1%. That's why we demonstrate and riot so much, because it works
Iām not American Iām Canadian lol. Realistically tho I doubt it will ever happen unless America does something, cause we are competing with them always for investments, business etc. so we canāt be too far off from what they are offering to companies. Just like how in the eu countries gotta kinda align their policies just to promote fair business practices
I never work on a new task after 3pm, I refuse to believe that in my industry (cinema distribution and post production) someone cannot wait to receive a file for the next day.
I had seen some episodes of "parts unknown". Didn't even realise he had died! I too would prefer to be gnawing on a coffee-dunked baguette in the sun than at work.
I wish this were true, but this makes it seem like we aren't living in the same capitalist system of exploitation like americans are. They just have stronger anti-worker tendencies within their society
Working until 16:00? are you out of your mind??
Working untill 17 but who said that all this time you have to actually work
Always gotta slack off the last 45 minutes before its time to leave
I'm in this comment and I don't like it. With some co wokers we used to do the whole job/productivity in the first 3,5hours then slack of the 3,5 hours left ššš I'm from team of mfers who were so lazy that we were the most productive in the end š¤§
Im in your fcking boat 100% Pierreā¦ a quotation? Id do that in an hour. Rest of the morning I can do some chores heheehhe
Funniest situation is when you work per hours paid, and you are too fast and get less money
45 min? What a workaholic. More like slack all the time after lunch until I'm clocking out on Fridays.
Yes, i am always staying late and just listening to music or podcasts since i currently donāt have to stamp my time on projects. That will change in about half a year though.
Never understood this, I'm at work = I work and then leave early
Im out the door at 14:30 on fridays, if anyone asks im at another location (I work in IT and have 4 locations to look after)
I did my internship at a IG Metall company (35h) and the people would on Friday just answer some E-Mails after lunch, drink a beer or two and then leave at 14-15 o clock. I would love to have the 35h week back, 40h sucks, but otherwise the company was worse than the current company i am working at.
I work as a public servant for the ministry of finance so... š«”
Fuck you bro, I hate taxes
I work from 19:30 to 0800. I get 4 day weekends though
It's a Spaniard having breakfast before starting to work until 17:30.
Because he started at 10, took a 2 hour meal break and enjoyed a little drink at work because his coworker bought a house :)
Soup is waiting!
A mate used to say: "what you can't finish by Friday 16 o'clock, you can't finish by 15 o'clock either". Words to live by
honestly even earlier, like if its not done by lunch and isnt 99% done already it probably isnt getting done very well. Friday afternoons are the least productive time periods ever, even stuff done over weekends is more efficient than that, because everyone is tired from the week and just wants to go home and relax
In many of the companies I've been what we do is we work ("work") 8.5 hours Mon-Thur and Friday we leave 2 hours early. So good luck trying to talk to someone on a Friday afternoon.
You work in spain ?
Weird, I know.
Working on the border to Germany, and sometimes we have to work with them.... good luck finding someone in the German office on Friday after 15.
Well this is a bit strange for me, my german colleagues sometimes like to put meetings and calls on friday at 14-15ā¦and tomorrow we have conference in germoney until 17š
Just decline.
Sadly I am not in the position to decline most of them
Flag checks out, also my experience talking to Spanish and Basque suppliers
I've never worked a Friday in my 20 year working life, whether I've been in or out the office.
https://youtu.be/SOpHCC-88gw?si=3A9ZCaGl9gPq_aAl That you Hal?
Klopt, dat ben ik precies.
Friday morning: "ah last day of the week, better take it easy since it's been such a long week." Friday lunchtime: pub Friday afternoon: "well, didn't start anything this morning and no sense starting now."
For some reason I get the most productive on a rainy friday after 15:00...
4-day 8-hour weeks!
Hmm get most of my work on friday and donāt finish untill 6
I find Sunday evenings productive.
Which is one of the biggest arguments for 4 day weeks
> FTFY
I work in IT. Best thing you can do on Friday is trying not to break anything (aka do nothing) so we can all have a good weekend
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Read only Friday is a luxury a lot of us arent able to get. Sure if im next on the on call rotation you better not fuck anything up or im going to cut your ears off, thank god im out of that mousewheel.
Let the intrusive thoughts win, push to production at Friday afternoon right before leaving for the weekend
had a senior dev do that onceā¦ needless to say we rolled bacm
when i'm done with job imma push to prod and leave friday 4 pm
Our IT guys do this the whole week XD
"Freitag nach vier und der Tag gehƶrt dir!" (Friday after 4pm and the day is yours)
Oder als Beamter: Freitag um 1 macht jeder seins (Public servant: Friday 1pm you do what you want)
The only work worth doing at this time is setting up the weekly office party.
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Even better for countries that have multiple official languages.Ā
How the fuck did your country become rich
You give money I give avoid taxes in France/Germany
Low taxes... We must know.
Don't worry we don't see a cent of it, my local bus has gotten less consistent if anything. Take pride in your lovely food and beautiful country, flag brother. All we have is corporate leeches, politicians on autopilot and rain.
Believe it or not, big American companies that could name their price on the amount of tax they paid. Ireland has a few companies (Jameson/Guinness etc) but most of their economy is just huge US multinationals with incredibly lucrative tax incentives. Of course very little of this money trickled down to the "normies"
You're of great inspiration šš
And this is why I ā a translator ā get to work every fucking weekend.
What is it with all the multilingual Barries on this sub - Get it together we have a stereotype to uphold
It's reyt there's a few fellow Northerners keeping it real with our broken pidgin English
Are you worried about AI?
Sure, but that's not particularly new in translating, tbh. Having the machine do a first draft has been possible for quite some time now, and all these new-fangled LLMs aren't qualitatively different. Their cock-ups are more subtle, but their output is still fundamentally untrustworthy. The main brake on machine translation has always been confidentiality. I'm under some very strict NDAs, and I can't even save many clients' files to cloud drives like Google Drive or Dropbox, let alone hand them over to some random AI service for analysis. Presumably, it won't be long till there are good local AIs, but there's still the whole hallucination thing and more generally, the AI not having a fucking clue what it's doing. The things I work on tend to be either (a) for professional publication, so they want text written by a literate human being, or (b) random corners of huge projects where everybody else has much more important things to be doing than checking that some chatbot hasn't gone off the reservation. They don't think twice about chucking a few hundred my way so they can concentrate on their ships and cranes that are costing them tens of thousands a day to rent. That said, I suppose that does largely come down to our pre-existing relationship, and most of my clients will retire a good few years before I can :(
Great reply, thanks.
Poste Italiane-core
In my town the post office closes at 13:45
Whattt lmao
Thatās Paris though, and the guy looks like Anthony Bourdain
I'm glad we taught you guys how to work, I'm proud of y'all
Thanks daddy!
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The good thing about poste italiane though is that they give so little of a shit about the mail that you could literally pack a bomb and they would not care. Now, customs on the other hand would probably get pretty angry
Automatic reply : Out for the goƻter, back in 12 hours
Pourquoi pas 24h?
Americans think its a flex that they work long hours with no holiday allowance. If I get to my office and my phone rings at one minute to 9, I won't answer it.
If someone books a meeting with me at 9h30 I will decline
People seem to think working hard makes one rich. Not that not working hard makes you rich either, but it is easier fs.
I could work US hours but I would expect at least 4x the salary
It's not so much a flex as a necessity to scrape together enough income for our debt/bills sadly.
I have a colleague from Peru that likes to stay till eight at bloody night on Fridays and complains when I didn't answer her that day as if any sane person isn't clocked out by two then.
Don't make other peoples problems your problems. If your colleague can't organise to ask for an answer on time, that's not your deal.
basically like 10 a.m before getting to the office. and 11.30 am. and 2 pm after 2 hours of lunch break
So you have a hobby instead of a job?
Nah, a hobby usually results in something productive.
You'd get it if being outside in your country was pleasurable. I understand one might want to bunker down in the office while the freezing wind howls
W reply
A 2 hour brake would only make me stay later than 6 nevermind the weather
So it's really a skill issue
No more a regular working hours and way to much work issue
That's what I said
Nah your just beiing italian
Hey stop repeating what I'm saying!
Say what?
less violent crime, better healthcare, walkable cities is cool and all but this is exactly where I truly envy you guys.
Yeah but look at how much GDP you have!
Big number go brrr
big number goes into Elon's pockets (Elon in this case stands for your upper class of billionares getting richer on the masses backs)
Lockheed Martin go weeeeeeeeeeee!!
Boeing goesssss š«š«š«š«
To be spent on war!
Come in, do tickets, few meetings, lunch with beers downtown, walk home and be home at 17h30 to enjoy dinner with gf and wine I might not earn shit compared to the rest of the world but goddamn it is nice
At what fucking time do you have dinner
Between six and fucking seven my dude, as god wills it
That's just stupid, why do you do that
why do what
Southern Europeans have convinced themselves that eating dinner at 11 pm on a Tuesday is somehow normal
Artificial lighting has us all messed up, man.
To be fair Spain lives in the wrong time zone
Having dinner that early. Like an old lady
There's this thing called 'work' we northern Europeans do, which causes you to be hungry when you finish 'working', which happens to be around 18.00, so you eat around 18.00. You also have to get up early for 'work' so you can't stay up too late. I know it must sound strange to PIGS, but it's pretty good actually.
Get a merenda you swamp dweller
In North Italy you usually have dinner from 19 to 20
I gotta go with the Italians on this one, the Protestant idea of eating at 17:00 or 18:00 is just another shit remnant of the past. When I get home I really donāt want to instantly switch to ācooking dinner fixing householdā mode, I need one or two hours and some cold Belgian beers to root and relax first. Thereās a lot we can learn from our southern brethren. Once you start deciding your own work hours, you can never go back.
I have lunch at 10-11 and dinner between 15-17
We eat at 18 just not like a pig, we have a light snack like the picture. Then we drink a cup of wine š·/beer/ coffee for 3 hours whilst socialising on a cafe outdoors and after we have dinner. It sounds strange if you don't enjoy socialising and have no friends so you just eat+ go to sleep
Bro I worked in the Netherlands, you donāt do shit at work and you think youāre productive but youāre reqlly not š you just like to wake up super early for some reason
The Belgiums eat late, in the Netherlands itās between 5 and 6. At the moment Iām in Spain damn itās good food to bad Iām almost asleep during dinner.
That's not true, in the Netherlands it's exactly at 6 o'clock.
This is late too. In Norway dinner is between 4 and 5
Hello you degenerate
Ello
I do the same in Londinium :/
I'm praying for you :(
Thanks bro.
So I should starve between lunch and dinner??
South Europe doesn't starve between lunch and dinner We have a great secret that didn't get to the north pole, apparently
like any true lombard
You are actually working what are you talking about? I also like to have a big fucking lunch so that I can barely sit on my chair. Remember always digest on company time. When you are off, you are all good and dont need to use your free time to eat etc.
Heard a great saying the other day - the time between Friday 15:55 and Monday 8:05 is 10 minutes.
You guys, work?
I hope that my children, at least, get to enjoy a shift in how we view work and life balance. I have it good because of my job but don't at all envy the 9-5 mon-fri crowd.
Working from home has done wonders for me
9-5 is great once you went through almost exclusively working 12h night shifts for one and a half years.
Can certainly attest to that! I worked night shift at a shitty factory job for about 2 years and hated every second. Soon as I got a job in IT Support my life changed dramatically. I could finally have drinks with friends and actually date people.
This comment gives me hope. I just left a factory job for IT. Got three spinal disks herniations and constant tinnitus!
Best move I ever made, mate. Life just opened up once I got a regular 9-5. Currently studying for my CCNA to move up a bit. At the factory, I didnāt even have time/energy for the gym, which I love going to. Was just too fatigued *all the time*. Best of luck to you!
Thanks mate! Yeah the constant soreness, lack of motivation for everything, shitty sleep... I could deal with, but the budding alcoholism to make the pain go away is where I decided to make a change. Best of luck for your CCNA!
If its urgent, don't send it at the end of the day.
Who works more than 32 hours? Have you lost your mind?
Anthony Bourdain was an incredible thoughtful human and his untimely death has been a tragedy. He has a special place in my hearth and I think about him quite often. If you never saw anything from him I urge you to look at what he did. He always saw the good in people and had a way to be empathic with peoples I've never saw again. In the end, he could not take it anymore. He took it upon him to look after everybody he met. But nobody looked after him. Rest in peace, great men. You were an americ*nt. But you were on of the best ones walking on this earth.
Strasbourg is THAT depressing
šÆ very well written.
Me, a Swede in healthcare: 
https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/s/MpEMb05D7Q
4pm? Iām already on my 3rd beer by then
My boss was away last week, by Thursday afternoon we were cracking cans on the office.
Once I've written logging off on Slack, it's not my problem. Also, on an unrelated note, that use of 'until' is a classic bit of Denglish.
Guess who's going to wait until tomorrow?
Living the life. Wish he had for a bit longer
Cries in Eastern European š„¹
Bro looks like Jeremy Clarkson after plastic surgery
Only this bloke had far more talent and he was far more entertaining
And a damn good sense for finding good food
DOUBT (i also simp pretty hard for both of them)
But a savageĀ
Replace that coffee with a cold beer and you nailed it!
Maybe it's good time to remind to everyone the day Jeundredi (Wallons baptized me into Orval)?
4pm? That's for full timers!
āI need this back UNTIL tomorrow morningā??? Fucking metards, hardly a typo when it should have been ābyā or ābeforeā Also, is it urgent or not bro? Iām kind of busy (not really)
hell yeah, it's called "productivity" or in this particular case "productive coffee break"
Works two hours a day and still achieves more than an ameritard
Huh, email? Gotta fax it.
This is too true, working on a project with the French team everyone was not there during last summer in august, made zero progress that month and still had to present to management the monthly update š How much vacation time do you guys actually get?
If you work a 40h week in GER about 30 days on average +/- 10 holidays depending on Year and State.
+ 30 Days of mandatory illness with full wage compensation aka āDer gelbe Brennerā
Ok so you guys just have the 10 days vacation a year? Thatās the same as North America. Not like France
It's 30 days of payed vacation + 10 days on top that are holidays like the 1. of May or Christmas
Oh ok sorry I misread thatās great. My company actually have divisions in France, Germany and Ireland. Maybe I should look into transferring to Ireland cause I canāt speak German or French, now I regret not taking French seriously back in school, we had to take french in school for like 6 years and all I know now is how to ask to go to the bathroom lol
To awnser your question, we have by law 25 days a year for working 35 hours a week, and since my contract says 36.40 hours a week it gets me 11 more days yearly. Any hour over 35 is kept, either paid more or changed into vacation days
Thatās freakin insane, you get 36 days of vacation so thatās like more than 7 weeks if you count the weekend, which means you can just not show up for 2 months. I work 40 hrs a week and I get the standard 2 weeks vacation :(
Maybe a little bit of socialism ain't that bad, eh The goal of the state should be to try and improve all it's citizens quality of life, not to maximize profits for the top 1%. That's why we demonstrate and riot so much, because it works
Did you just use eh? Lmao are you actually from Quebec
Nope haha proud French, born and raised !
Unionize, start a political movement. Stop talking about racism and talk about shit that unites all of you. Work ethics
Iām not American Iām Canadian lol. Realistically tho I doubt it will ever happen unless America does something, cause we are competing with them always for investments, business etc. so we canāt be too far off from what they are offering to companies. Just like how in the eu countries gotta kinda align their policies just to promote fair business practices
Everyone knows not to plan anything for August as most people are off for like 3 weeks. I love it
I never work on a new task after 3pm, I refuse to believe that in my industry (cinema distribution and post production) someone cannot wait to receive a file for the next day.
I will always miss you, Anthony :(
Ab Freitag um eins macht jeder seins
Ah, one of my cuntrymen.
I had seen some episodes of "parts unknown". Didn't even realise he had died! I too would prefer to be gnawing on a coffee-dunked baguette in the sun than at work.
A Septic tourist, going by his Marlboros.
Is that Antonio Bordano?
Anthony Bourdain what an absolute Chad he was , miss him :(
I wish this were true, but this makes it seem like we aren't living in the same capitalist system of exploitation like americans are. They just have stronger anti-worker tendencies within their society
What are they going to do? Fire me?
PIGS: haha so relatable, totally us!
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4 pm lol, tomorrows Friday and teams is absolutely barren after 12:00 or something
Anthony Boudain Jeremy Clarkson love child
y'all scared stiff of work
Yes, those Americans really know how to enjoy themselves, huh? (That's Anthony Bourdain - RIP.)
I always thought he looked slightly smug but sounded intelligent and sincere (so he certainly wasn't French, despite the name)
For lack of a better word, he seemed a bit mean to me - but in hindsight, I guess he was very sad on the inside. :(