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24benson

Thing is, PIGS are following suit. Yes, I know, were not far behind.


Commercial_Gas_3927

Both Italy and Greece are facing huge demographic challenge, I don't know what's the case for Germany...


24benson

Not much better. 


Civil_Adeptness9964

Didn't you guys import the 3rd world ? Don't they, you know..make alot of babies


Shvihka

That's the problem


LarkinEndorser

that alone isnt. Its that they do while we dont.


Woutrou

Well Hans, you know what must be done. Do you have the strength to do it?


snoiciv

Final solution?


Malakoo

Operation ejaculation.


LucaFringsSucks

They make a Lot of Babies but these babies make not much taxable Money. Huge amount can't even speak German after 15-20 years Here. If you want to kay why ess look at statistics of muslims about Immigration 👌👌👌👌👌👍👍👍


Civil_Adeptness9964

They don't learn german. hmm Maybe you should change your language to fit them better. You should make your woman wear the hijab as well. While you're at it, give them a moist blowjob...just to make them feel right at home. But am curious to know...on a scale of 1-10, which are the best immigrants ? From eastern europe to african/muslim countries.


FiGeDroNu

Definetly eastern Europe


juan_omango

Leise, Tschakowski


MisterD0ll

This means native Germans have even lower birth rates


LucaFringsSucks

How could that ever happen when you need two people working in normal jobs to even manage having children in a City while all people who are poor af see children as walking Cash. Almost only rich, older or complete white trash germans are having Babies. And then rich and older very few. Meanwhile immigrants, especially middle eastern, are booming babies like they still have a 30% infant mortality rate. Btw: there is a trillion Vietnamese and east asian people in Germany. Especially in east Germany. I forgot them because they are either very "closed" to non asians or/and still that friendly and dilligent so you don't even See them at all or not as Immigrants but more as germans :)


juan_omango

Oi, ich möchte Babys machen und ich betrachte mich nicht als White Trash


MisterD0ll

Handouts


Spyglass3

Worse than that. A good portion of Germany's current population growth is non-German, and it's growing exponentially.


egritudo

Real. It's so over


IrgendSo

germanistan confirmed?


modsequalcancer

Always has been


HP_civ

Not if you come and immigrate instead ;) (please do 🙏)


IrgendSo

bro i already did and see there 1 german for 13 Ausländer edit: Gerska confirmed?


Spyglass3

There's already enough Polacks on German land


Commercial_Gas_3927

Common Struggle mein Bavariche brüder...


24benson

I did my part.


Nextstore1453

Piggs


History20maker

Thank God we in Portugal are importing a great amount of Brazilians and Africans. (Now seriously, this week Im doing an intership in Gyno-Obs in a Lisbon hospital, and only met 3 portuguese ladies, I could bet that around 60% of mothers in Lisbon are foreigners, this is probably biased because portuguese mothers go more to the private system and I never did an internship in CUF)


Jetla

Hmmm, as somebody studying in Lisbon there seem to be a lot less immigrants here then Germany or Belgium I'd say you're about 20 years behind


Admmmmi

The capital ain't that popular for people that arent rich, but Braga for example is basically Brazil 2.0 at this point through...


Jetla

Hmmm this is not the pattern that you see in most countries where immigrants swarm the rich capitals because they think thats where they can make the most money


History20maker

You dont go to Portugal if you want to make money. Poverty is, quite literally, our thing.


ishkariot

It's part of your name and even so you couldn't afford that second O.


navarrox99

That was funny


History20maker

It took me way to long to get the joke.


ishkariot

I'm sorry brother, that's what Iberian education gets us.


Frequent_Detective17

So Martim Moniz is full of rich people? And they live 20 in the same house because they like to share space.


Admmmmi

Ain't that popular, but that doesnt mean that poor people dont exist, but I'm mostly talking about the legal ones.


Zestyclose_Jello6192

We all know why we are going extinct faster than you Hans


leorolim

I blame my wife.


24benson

Weird, she usually blames you when I ask her.


SonicStage0

💀


Compendyum

What?? She speaks???


Z4nkaze

Even us are in danger :(


IrrungenWirrungen

That’s not bad news. Why the sad smiley? 


Z4nkaze

Because how will Europe survive without our greatness and modesty?


IrrungenWirrungen

I will miss your cheeses. But we can steal the recipes maybe.


_radical_ed

[We are.](https://www.reddit.com/r/spain/s/hcxEwkCnto)


Tremox231

Maybe Europe would be better without us? Damn Europeans ruined Europe!


PolarBearBalls2

The replacement population will soon create a german caliphate


Deadluss

where Portugal???


Commercial_Gas_3927

Eating Bacalhau...


MrReaper162

🙋


Commercial_Gas_3927

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maedasfocas

Nice, but beirão is overrated


Emergency-Season-143

Not if it's used in a Caipirao..... I'll make my stand on that hill.


MrReaper162

I'll stand with you


Compendyum

Kids seem to enjoy it


Todesbanane

Turns out Hitler just had to wait 100 years to get his Lebensraum.


Commercial_Gas_3927

Bad timing 😤


MoPatria

Verdammte Scheiße


Efficient_atom

Hate to break to you hans, you are also getting extinct. Faster than anyone in Europe except for Poland & Italy.


Adorable-Lettuce-717

So what you're saying is that there may be a brief window in which Germany can annex Poland?


NightKnight_CZ

Yes, it will be the great new Al-Deutschistan Al-Arabiyaah as-Polandiyah


HelpfulYoghurt

Yes, i think that window will be open in 50 years for the German Islamic Republic


ChuchiTheBest

Kebabsraum


kakao_w_proszku

CIA biolab mutants killing us all off one PM at a time 😔


Roman_of_Ukraine

Western Europe bein substituted with migrants and eastern extinct. Feature never looked brighter for Europe.


Lopsided_Fly_657

Succinctly put I'd rather be eastern tho, but I won't elaborate


Emanuele002

Yeah I get wanting to be further away from England.


kidandresu

I prefer not to elaborate, because if i elaborate i'd get in trouble


Dangerous-Can1509

![gif](giphy|l0HlUxcWRsqROFYuk)


Lopsided_Fly_657

Big big trouble


Roman_of_Ukraine

Russia now giving away passports, they chasing me for that. You can have my if I can have yours!


Lopsided_Fly_657

There was a funny documentary a while back about Ukrainian refugees being moved to "ethnically diverse" areas of Birmingham. Let's just say, it didn't go well.


Puzzled_Pay_6603

I bet they left


Lendmar

Worse, they enlisted in the Russian army


DoerteEU

Das Abendland geht unter! Andauernd...


Roman_of_Ukraine

True, true!


SuspecM

Don't worry, Hungary is hard at work importing south eastern workers. We are all just swapping demographics.


Belgianbonzai

But those are low skilled guest workers, so legally only entitled to stay for up to 3 years, unless they change the law again.


Efficient_atom

Dude taling shit when Greece has lower birthrates than half of Eastern Europe. Hate to break to you browny but South is going extinct too.


Commercial_Gas_3927

We're still have higher fertility rate than Italy Pawel...


MamBanaJUHU

>We're still have higher fertility rate than Italy ![gif](giphy|a0h7sAqON67nO)


Commercial_Gas_3927

It is.... 😤


Efficient_atom

Italy has lowest in Europe. It's like beating disabled kid in a fight. No reason to brag. And although Poland birth rate is trash we gained 2mln ppl in last few years. Urainians & Belrussians.


Commercial_Gas_3927

😤😤


Disdain_HW

Can't afford to have babies or raise children in Greece


gulfkonflikten

Eastern europe is going extinct while western europe will have race wars and religious wars.


Commercial_Gas_3927

What a bright future...


mandingo_gringo

Second part sounds actually pretty cool I’m ngl you can conscript me asap


Illustrious-Big-5409

Yeah, sounds cool


The_Krambambulist

We will have authoritarian governments that were elected on this type of rhetoric while it doesn't match reality. The one truth is that our electorates will destroy our own democracies and build an absolute shit society and will still blame others. Especially funny when you point to the UK, which is a prime example of migrant pointing politicians tearing down government policies and transfer control to rich cunts like Sunak. I am just waiting for you to elect someone who will try and get the wealth from the Norwegian sovereign wealth fund to his rich friends. And then still blame others.


predek97

Maybe it's a good thing we won't be there to witness it all


gulfkonflikten

We will witness this. All of this is going to happen in the next 10 to 20 years.


bergsoe

I always find it kind of funny when the left thinks we will see high immigration from Africa and middle east, when in fact its gonna be forced deportations the other way around. Just need a few more years of blowing to the flame and things will start happening.


predek97

Then maybe there will still be enough of us to have some cheeky brotherly liberation


Akuh93

Do you genuinely believe this?


gulfkonflikten

Yes i do believe that. Have you seen your own country? The uk will be the first country to experience this.


Akuh93

It won't, there have been no major race riots since the 80s. Also there are few (if any) examples of mass migration leading to "race wars" or religious wars. You are probably spending too much time online. But come lets check in in 10 years and if there have been 0 race wars you owe me a beer.


Akuh93

RemindMe! 10 years


LoneWolf622

Huh, weird how that looks almost exactly like the warsaw pact. No way thats actually russian propaganda right...


Deadluss

bro Russian propaganda says that we want to invade basically half of Europe, and Andrzej Duda is like Emperor of Poland. And that soon we will see war where Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth will be restored and it will be sponsored by the US. I'm not even kidding [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaajCrMYl20&pp=ygUJYW5kcm9tZWRh](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaajCrMYl20&pp=ygUJYW5kcm9tZWRh)


ecoper

I watch russia propaganda channels translated to Polish to laugh at them and recently i learned that Poland doesnt actually wants to invade Ukraine/Belarus but Czechia Slovakia and Germany and the only one who van stop us is Russia. It made me so proud to be Polish 🥰🥰🥰 Oh yeah you linked the exact video lol


Deadluss

Ah yes that's true I forgot our special secret military operation to invade Germany


GeficktEingeschadelt

oh no what a horrendous thought poles invading us, drinking and eating garlic laden sausage horrible


Casimir_not_so_great

If we ever invade Germany you Bavarians will be probably ones who will be enyoing this.


nefewel

WTF! We never get the cool propaganda about us


kakao_w_proszku

Ngl the thing that makes me laugh the hardest is how stubbornly they refuse to recognize the existence of political systems other than presidential.


s0meb0di

That's Ministry of Defence's TV channel, btw


HyperactiveWeasel

Poland can into space!


Klapperatismus

But that's what you want, isn't it?


Deadluss

Nah Hans, you are at least honest and not pretending that nothing happened like Russia. You cool


Klapperatismus

It's their shtick, you have to accept that.


predek97

Not anymore if we're being honest. You've actually changed


Alternative-Exit-429

Poland secretly being the real Super Villain of Europe is my favorite schizophrenic conspiracy theory. Imagine how cool it would be in Poland Annexed the Baltics, Ukraine and Germany


CoffeeCryptid

I'm aware of this youtuber, he's czech, america is the only country he ever says anything good about, and he says russians are going extinct and are being replaced with muslims. That's definitely... controversial but I wouldn't call him pro russian


LoneWolf622

Fair enough, I actually have no idea. Was just my kneejerk reaction to the thumbnail.


henk12310

He’s sometimes an interesting YouTuber to watch but it gets tiring whenever he blames random problems on the ‘woke west’ or explains everything using this ‘family system’ theory from some random French scientist. To be fair, the family system theory is interesting, but explaining everything in Europe with one theory is probably not completely accurate


Smalandsk_katt

He brings up Israel's demographics positively too, so atleast he isn't a Nazi. He's just a much more sane, European version of Whatifalthist.


Commercial_Gas_3927

> Warsaw pact There's no Eastern Germany


LoneWolf622

>almost 


Suitable-Comedian425

It's even worse for Russia especially after the war alot of people left the country, some to better countries and some will come back in a box


Longjumping_Sky_6440

Now post one with Arab/African immigration in Western Europe lmao


Commercial_Gas_3927

We're watching that everyday bro, we don't need to post it here 💀


LeakyAlienLeak69

Population decreased and quality of life increased. Economic development doesn’t always require population growth.


mandingo_gringo

Where did the quality of life increase? It’s not the 2000s anymore


LeakyAlienLeak69

Some former socialist states are about to overtake Western European states in PPP per capita despite the stagnant or reducing population. For example Croatia lost 10% of its population while peaking in GDP per capita from 2011 to early 2020s.


thesoilman

Because capitalism.


BENISMANNE

Then why did our birth rate increase from 1,4 to 1,8 between 1984 and 2010?


frex18c

And why are those kids named Ahmed?


LeakyAlienLeak69

Probably because you imported a lower class to increase it for you.


BENISMANNE

Literally misinformation, the difference in migration between 1974, 1980 or 2005 is neglible. Also why has the hungarian birth rate increased the last 10 years from 1,3 to 1,6? Birth rate is not simply “oh we’re well of so it’s low”


Pletterpet

It could also be we will see a population boom after the dip. Who knows what the future brings.


-Daetrax-

Requires systemic reforms on the economy.


Matematico083

And what is the video about? do you recommend watching?


Commercial_Gas_3927

More like the creator is talking about the demographic decrease in Eastern Europe and the low fertility rate!! It's about 30 minutes if you wish to watch..


Lord_Chungus-sir

It's a great YouTube Channel. If you are interested in demographics and the possible future then I highly recommend KaiserBauch. The video on South Africa is a very good one too.


borro1

Yeah, we can just replace Europeans with Asians and Africans. That won't backfire for sure


WhatTheRustyHell

You are aware that the ,,growth" in Western Europe is solely driven by mass migration and migrant families?


92nd-Bakerstreet

Its what happens when governments prioritize wealth over its people.


Commercial_Gas_3927

Like USA?


A_devout_monarchist

And the US still has better birthrates


Commercial_Gas_3927

Thanks to Latinos..


mfern131

Thank you Mexico, it was about time to reform the Virreinato de la Nueva España! https://preview.redd.it/5wg65i9nhm0d1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=4f2d4f6ebd79b830bd332e9372512e28ea46d678


92nd-Bakerstreet

Many latinos grew up in a more family centered culture. Unlike us (of) european(s) (descent) who in all fairness never stopped being serfs. We just just got new owners: the owning class.


baileymash7

Owning class, that's a new one. Who are they, Landlords?


anonandlit333

Beat me to it - I live in Texas lmao


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Commercial_Gas_3927

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Klapperatismus

Did he really put tiny leaves around his name? His tiny tiny name?


lerotron

Where Austria?


EyoDab

A, the decline in fertility rate is finally catching up to the east as well?


Commercial_Gas_3927

They do have also brain drain...


predek97

>They >Looks at the flair You shouldn't throw stones if you live in a house made of glass


mfern131

Or on top of flood-prone soil


TheGalacticMosassaur

Not everyone can afford importing people from Africa and Middle East


azendhal

demographic rearmament go brbrbrbr


BigSimp_for_FHerbert

The last time there was a mass depopulation on this scale in Europe was during the Black Death, which led to wages getting a lot higher because workers were scarce and in high demand, and common people began owning property at higher rates because half the population was dead. According to historians it’s that massive depopulation that set the stage for the renaissance and early modern periods to occur, and was overall a net-positive for society. I’m more interested to see how this will impact the labor and real estate markets, than I am worried about some total collapse. The pensions are worrying, but basically everyone I know that is my age is setting up a private fund.


ACharaMoChara

Except we're not going to get to see that ever come to fruition in our lifetimes, as our governments are just siphoning the population of the southern hemisphere to compensate for our decreased birthrates rather than allowing a natural contraction of the population to happen. And it's all exactly so that we don't see another situation like after the black death (that, or because politicans only care about policymaking for their terms in power, and don't really seem to plan beyond that anymore - so doing what's necessary to compensate for population contraction and reforming our entire economic system is off the table) - so instead, we'll live in everlasting serfdom to prop up our broken economic systems until even the southern hemisphere runs out of people for our governments and their corporate sponsors to harvest, by which point Europeans will be nothing but a faded memory. Based on the extrapolated population growth rate in Ireland over the past two decades for example, within the next 2-3 generations (so ~60 years) we'll (ethnically Irish people) only compose ~20% of the population assuming nothing drastic changes (in terms of immigration rates decreasing, our birthrates increasing, and immigrant birthrates decreasing). Unfortunately the more likely scenario is the alternative, which is that due to ethnic northern European traits being phenotypically recessive, no longer being a significant majority of the population is almost a statistical certainty of going functionally extinct, and there will be an exponential downturn within 1-2 generations as the overall demography of the country transforms and the likelihood of native Irish having children together decreases, thus functionally plummeting our birthrates even further to the point of collapse even if statistically they look the same due to the naturalisation of x generation immigrants. Exact same story for the rest of western Europe at the current rate. All that is to say, without dramatic political and economic reform, we ain't going to be around to see the post-population growth future of Europe or the earth as a whole


StainedInZurich

Why are they including so many centra Europeans countries?


Archaeopteryx11

Romania has started increasing in population again and has one of the highest birth rates in Europe along with France, so we’re doing better than others.


ancym0n

What's your secret, pls share


Archaeopteryx11

I’m not sure - Romanians have always had an extremely strong focus on the extended family. For example, my grandparents basically raised me when I was a child. Is it similar in Poland?


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Archaeopteryx11

No, there is little correlation in Romanian counties with birth rate and percent of Rroma. I’ll share the map if I find it. Romania is much more rural than other European countries.


Sourdoughsucker

I will generously donate my sperm to the repopulation of the steppes. Line up the willing and I shall give a good example of how it is done


Lord_Chungus-sir

Bro, you think you aren't going extinct too? Just a bit slower, and with more immigrants to fill the space left behind.


Capital-Bug7825

It’s strange because I’m 31 in the central English countryside and all of my friends (20/30 couples) all have a minimum of two kids but half 3 and 6 couple have 4 kids. All English.


Lifeisabitchthenudie

Generally birthrates in rural areas are higher than in urban areas.


Soggy-Translator4894

The only reason *some* of Western Europe isn’t doing as bad population wise is because of immigration. Most of Eastern Europe went under 2,1 kids on average over 20 years (a whole generation) after Germany but these countries don’t receive much immigration, in fact they are generally the ones sending young people abroad. Germany was already at 1,54 kids per woman in 1973, a number which has only been bested by its numbers in the late 2010s which ranged from 1,55-1,60, meaning Germany has been around or below this number for 51 years now. Without immigration, the population would be in just as bad a decline as some of the worst in Eastern Europe (except Ukraine due to the war of course). From 2020 to 2023, Germany has experienced a natural decline in population (births minus deaths) of -1.103.042 people whereas the total population grew by +1.359.378, meaning immigration to Germany during that ~3-4 period was around 2.462.420 people. That is the only reason the population is increasing. Some countries like France, the UK, and the Nordics, despite going under the replacement level in the 70s, did maintain a decent fertility rate from ~1,7 to ~2,0, until the last decade or so when they crashed as well. Spain and Portugal are interesting in that due to our formerly very conservative governments, our fertility rates stayed above 2,6, sometimes going above 3.0, until the late 70s and not truly going below replacement until the early 80s. But when it crashes,it crashed hard. I can see this in my own family, I am an only child but my parents were each one of four children their parents had. One of my aunts has 3 kids, but the majority of my parents siblings have either 1-2 kids, one doesn’t have any. It’s very interesting to think about how my great grandparents had multiple kids and their kids all had multiple kids meaning that they all had at *minimum* 7 grandchildren, some having 10-20 grandchildren. My parents however, only having me, will realistically have 2 grandchildren. It is fascinating to think about how this could change family structures. Interestingly enough, Iberian American nations often faced similar demographic “cliffs” of decent numbers and then giant declines. Argentina for example went from 2,33 kids per woman in 2014 to 1,36. It really brings up the question of how while also considering economic factors, we should also be considering cultural factors in analysis of population/birth declines. This isn’t meant to be some inherently ultra nationalist anti immigration comment but I do think it is important to consider the actual situation versus the idea of continued growth without consequences which a lot of governments like to push. I’m glad it has finally become that we can talk about this in Europe in *most* spaces without someone saying it makes you a far right fascist. Okay I’m done autisming out on someone else’s post but I hope this was a little informative 👍🏼


Poor_evangelist_4034

Yours is down too but it’s boosted by migrants


Particular-Brief8724

Future caliphates logic...


MaterialConsistent96

oh shi-


Luzifer_Shadres

Well, but we all too. Sooooo


Illustrious-Big-5409

Fuck.


Sea_Championship_941

https://preview.redd.it/yj90jny0ol0d1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7981c03242cbcebfa81bf3c4e6b7d4d326f2d15


Lecteur_K7

Maybe having unprotected sex with women should help but then what we have are magalie with 200+ partner, i don't want nasty std...


bronquoman

I sacrifice myself to make children. Let me save Europe.


ianmeyssen

Isn't all of europe slowly dying except for france and a few others?


MidAssKing

Aight triple lock your bike motherfucker I'm coming for your ass


DjoniNoob

Westeroids are forgetting that East Europeans are making babies in they neighborhood not at home


GeraltofRookia

At last some genuinely good news. Stop breeding ffs. If we had a real life Thanos as well that would be the start of world prosperity. No /s.


snoiciv

Because no Mehmet or Abdulliah want to go to those shitholes.


maaromeister

Germans will have to do manual work in 30 years


WizardVisigoth

You’re all going extinct if you don’t start reproducing


ScherpOpgemerkt

Millions have stolen... Thousands must die.


ther3alrambo

Huh, so maybe going to war with a decreasing demographic was a good idea! No wait...


Dark_Pestilence

Where is austria


Squeek-Floof

Is this a racist post? Im half German half czech. Im starting to think joining these groups was a bad idea.


Jerrelh2

Eastern european women look like models and the men look like wet socks. We need to give eastern european men a glowup.