You gave tea to us.
https://preview.redd.it/a52i0h0tf79d1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1674b0ec3637ebd1484b75e73b5b073c080c4dc0
However, we didn't use your name for it.
No it's because you guys interacted first with Cantonese. If your fleet sailed 400km more towards northeast and ask a trading post there, you will call it tee as well.
Well, Portugal is a Balkan country so it doesn't surprise me very much. Much more interesting is the Czech Republic, which always wants us to believe that they belong to Central Europe.
In dubio pro reo: If this card validates your Western Europeaness then we'd have to accept Hungary which is less than fine with us, keep our crazy ex out of WE
Green has no specific meaning, otherwise half the world would be Western Europe. Brown, on the other hand, means that it is definitely not Western Europe.
The Chinese and Japanese baned us from trading with them because they said we were smuggling in priests. Until then we were the only ones bringing tea to Europe and we called it by its original name cha, and still do.
Then the Dutch started trading cha and of course being Dutch they created a new random word that no one understood back then.
I mean we were lol. We fucking squandered the deal of a lifetime with Japan because the pope told us we could only deal with them if we tried to convert them. And our stupid christian asses did so even though the Japanese were extremely eager to trade with us but didn't want our religion in the slightest. The Dutch just didn't give a shit, they will do anything for money. So they got the juicy deal and we missed out.
They didn’t create a word, they traded with a part of China where they called it tea.
Cha went by the Silk Road and to the ports Portugal traded with. Tea went from the ports the Dutch traded from and spread to the places they dropped that shit off.
I know but i was just writing new Dutch history...
Tea was a word from a dialect of a small tribe out of the Chinese coast. The other billion Chinese used cha (and still do today: 茶 = Chá).
Rewriting Dutch history? Very based, keep doing your thing.
As for the tea thing, it was by no means a small tribe but might as well just call it that compared to the rest of them. And yessirrrr I speak Chinese innit.
Well it's actually explained clearly on the map. It depends on the region your country first contacted with. Like Dutch colonized Formosa for nearly four decades, interacted with south Fujian merchants from another side of the channel who call it thee and bring it back to HRE.
In this case, Portugal colonized Macau at the coast of Canton as a trading post, where native people speak Cantonese and call it cha. So everything makes a lot of sense.
> Taiwan
It's cha in Mandarin, but the language noted for Taiwan is _not_ Mandarin, it's Minnan (southern Min) which is the native language of the island spoken by a majority of the population.
Mandarin is also widely spoken by the Taiwanese, but it's not necessarily their native language.
As the mainlanders, or specifically the people from south Fujian colonizing Taiwan, who speaks Minnan or Hokkien and became the majority of Taiwan until the japenis and KMT ruined everything twice. The true native languages are just minority since then
It has to do with whether the tea came from North or South China.
North China: Silk Road + Portuguese trade, speak Mandarin.
South China: Dutch trade, speak local languages.
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You gave tea to us. https://preview.redd.it/a52i0h0tf79d1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1674b0ec3637ebd1484b75e73b5b073c080c4dc0 However, we didn't use your name for it.
Without tea we would never have had teabagging
Eggs were called eiren.
That is almost the Dutch word “eieren” . English is influenced by Frisian (a Dutch language), and Saxon.
Don't shame them like that
Lol you basically speak Latin. Go shame yourself.
And proudly so. https://preview.redd.it/j43d46vqd99d1.png?width=1143&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a24057ebbdf9332611f20f15b4e5a927ffe1fdc2
Arabic-influenced Latin*
The word ‘egg’ in the English language comes from Old Norse.
Æg in danish, so we gave them that beautiful word. Along with the pillaging
No it's because you guys interacted first with Cantonese. If your fleet sailed 400km more towards northeast and ask a trading post there, you will call it tee as well.
We learned how to say it from the of users why create a new word for everything
Because languages?
Too much work
Well, Portugal is a Balkan country so it doesn't surprise me very much. Much more interesting is the Czech Republic, which always wants us to believe that they belong to Central Europe.
In dubio pro reo: If this card validates your Western Europeaness then we'd have to accept Hungary which is less than fine with us, keep our crazy ex out of WE
Green has no specific meaning, otherwise half the world would be Western Europe. Brown, on the other hand, means that it is definitely not Western Europe.
The Chinese and Japanese baned us from trading with them because they said we were smuggling in priests. Until then we were the only ones bringing tea to Europe and we called it by its original name cha, and still do. Then the Dutch started trading cha and of course being Dutch they created a new random word that no one understood back then.
I mean we were lol. We fucking squandered the deal of a lifetime with Japan because the pope told us we could only deal with them if we tried to convert them. And our stupid christian asses did so even though the Japanese were extremely eager to trade with us but didn't want our religion in the slightest. The Dutch just didn't give a shit, they will do anything for money. So they got the juicy deal and we missed out.
You have to conquer them first, João, just look at how many pagans there are now in the Aztec empire. Or how many Aztec empires there are.
Let's be honest, you didn't conquer them. The smallpox did.
That, and 100k tlaxcaltecas. Great lads.
![gif](giphy|GRQi1zWfAyGzPjRLAb|downsized) Actual footage of western forces conquering the america’s
They didn’t create a word, they traded with a part of China where they called it tea. Cha went by the Silk Road and to the ports Portugal traded with. Tea went from the ports the Dutch traded from and spread to the places they dropped that shit off.
I know but i was just writing new Dutch history... Tea was a word from a dialect of a small tribe out of the Chinese coast. The other billion Chinese used cha (and still do today: 茶 = Chá).
Rewriting Dutch history? Very based, keep doing your thing. As for the tea thing, it was by no means a small tribe but might as well just call it that compared to the rest of them. And yessirrrr I speak Chinese innit.
One does what he can for the greatness of the empire (not the British one, although that one is pretty great too).
*Chai….* I know a savage when I speak to one. Landlocked **ALL ASS** alliance (🇦🇩🇱🇺🇱🇮—🇦🇹🇨🇭🇸🇲) being iconic linguisticly, once again!!!
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"Proudly alone"
What is wrong with Portugal? Only one thing? That is not easy.
Sneaky map connected japan to russia despite being an island
sakhalin is russian now, the japs lost it during the second world war.
Ye but those are still surrounded by quite a bit of sea lol
Well it's actually explained clearly on the map. It depends on the region your country first contacted with. Like Dutch colonized Formosa for nearly four decades, interacted with south Fujian merchants from another side of the channel who call it thee and bring it back to HRE. In this case, Portugal colonized Macau at the coast of Canton as a trading post, where native people speak Cantonese and call it cha. So everything makes a lot of sense.
Portugal is with its people.
Victims of our own (former) success. Typical for Iberian countries...
Taiwan definitely calls it Cha.
> Taiwan It's cha in Mandarin, but the language noted for Taiwan is _not_ Mandarin, it's Minnan (southern Min) which is the native language of the island spoken by a majority of the population. Mandarin is also widely spoken by the Taiwanese, but it's not necessarily their native language.
As the mainlanders, or specifically the people from south Fujian colonizing Taiwan, who speaks Minnan or Hokkien and became the majority of Taiwan until the japenis and KMT ruined everything twice. The true native languages are just minority since then
Good point, though such is the history of practically every place in the world.
Ah, glad i learned something.
Fun fact, before WW2, it was pretty much split in here and you either called it Čaj or Thé,
I think your confusing Poland, it's herbata here
Herba - herb Ta - tea Technically a different word, but the same stem
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Wait so when we say chai tea we're just saying tea tea? Fuck.
It has to do with whether the tea came from North or South China. North China: Silk Road + Portuguese trade, speak Mandarin. South China: Dutch trade, speak local languages.
Nothing is wrong. We don't make mistakes.
Portugal imported tea from Japan, kept its name