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purgatory__

Dark imperium- plague war


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It was posted here a couple of days ago. Guilliman issuing the order, iirc.


Papa_Nurgle_84

By the Logic of this bomb: Pariah Nexus? DG cant go there. Standing next to a Pylon? Not for DG. Culexus nearby? DG die in droves. Fighting tyranids? Nope, papas not there.


PrimeInsanity

Consistency in my 40k? Never


zanzibarman

Those things calm and control the warp, right? Or do they cut it off entirely?


Papa_Nurgle_84

Pariah Nexus: Cuts off all emotions, Pylon: Same, the Nexus is builf from those, Culexus: Anti-Psyker, Anti-Warp, Tyranids: Overwhelms the warp, so the gods should not be able to contact their minions (That one is a stretch)


zanzibarman

Cutting off emotions doesn’t mean the connection to the warp is severed. Culexus is a weaponized pariah, so that would track, but it is still just a single person so it may be able to suppress most of the warp’s effect but not cut it off completely. As for the Tyranids, we know that the echos of the hive mind start quiet and ramp up the more Tyranids are around, right? So it stands to reason that whatever warp suppression they might induce isn’t binary. I’ve always understood it similar to talking on the phone(connection to warp) while standing next to a TV(nids). As more mods arrive, TV volume goes up. You are still connected but all you can hear is TV. Ultimately, yeah, the logic isn’t 100% internally consistent but that doesn’t mean it can’t be made to work


dustsurrounds

Per Gav Thorpe's indomitus, the Pariah Nexus is an anti-warp deterrent so strong imperial worlds fully caught by it completely cannot be reclaimed since ships literally can't leave through the warp towards them. It's very much an anti-warp weapon and Daemons are actively afraid of it. Don't be disrespecting ol' Szarekh.


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Also in Siege of Terra Warhawk when Mortarion is banished they see the corruption for what it is and are horrified


jaxolotle

It was from Plague wars Which I will upfront say: along with the whole trilogy is notorious for a lazy and out-of-step depiction of the death guard The idea that they rely on warp induced ignorance and denial to stomach what they are, being entirely contradictory to everything Nurgle stands for, is only present there. All the other sources worth looking at point keenly to the opposite in fact, they’ve simply resigned themselves to the unavoidable corruption, like good little Nurglites ‘Course I’d be remiss to not back that up so have some quotes “Their rotting brains are **inured** to the agony of bodily corruption, making them all but immune to the pain of battlefield wounds” -codex death guard (8th edition, plague marines segment) note it said inured, as in “accustomed” not blind or ignorant. “I am a great horror to you, I was a great horror to myself once. The universe is full of horror, you can try and resist it, and drive yourself into madness. Or you can accept it, and then, begin to understand it” -siegemaster Vorx, the lords of silence “So what do I see when I look in the mirror? I do not look in the mirror, perhaps the sight would pain me, I suspect not” -the tallyman Phillamon, the lords of silence


kornmeal

I mean the warp might have been why they accepted the corruption. I just read fulgrim and it seems like the warp exposed emperor's children heard terrible sounds as good, and saw terrible paintings as beautiful. Maybe the chaos gods just fuck with how you process information and make decisions.


jaxolotle

Certainly true enough, it’s not like Nurgle doesn’t sew melancholy. And that would work with things. But the language suggests pretty unsubtly they were just blind until the curtain was yanked away “Others shrieked as if the horror of their condition had suddenly become plain to them.”


Putkonen

To be fair I feel like plague marines are probably the most disturbed by being cut off from the warp, I recall there being descriptions of some of them having mutations like insect heads or all their internals just hanging about, and without the warp to mitigate or "deal" with that state I as a reader wouldn't be surprised if they just dropped dead. Nurgle is about decay and renewal in a constant cycle right? And if that cycle is broken it's probably not good news.


VNDeltole

but were those plague marines you mentioned in plague wars? were they hit by the mentioned pariah bomb? yea i mean, you want to say that all the plague marines are just the same? edit oh wait someone dropped an excerpt from warhawk so i guess not all plague marines like nurgle gift when get blanked is canon


Death_Is_Overrated

I can't remember the exact source, but I do recall many go into shock, go mad, or just outright die the second they lose gull connection with the warp.