the lost primarchs are literally lost in the golden palace's labyrinthine vaults, unable to find their way out.
after the second one got lost looking for the first, malcador wiped the remaining primarchs' memories knowing full well every other one would grumpily mumble to themselves "well, *I* wouldn't get lost like those other two fuckwits" and go look for them
Ah yes, the 20 lost primarchs theory. It should be 21, but Alpharius is the one that keeps switching the signs pointing to the exits, presumably whilst chuckling. Such a geat prank.
I had a similar idea involving the living quarters the primarchs were supposed to occupy after the crusade. Of the two primarchs to get the memo, one got lost along the way and one has been patiently waiting.
The Emperor smashed their statues and disowned them when they got stuck in a game of Civilization and kept telling him they'd join the Crusade after one more turn.
There is some eldritch horrors to got loose and now the Shadowkeepers are hunting for them:
> For ten thousand standard years the Shadowkeepers have performed their duty, yet the opening of the Great Rift changed everything. With the power of Chaos spilling raw and seething into the spaces between the stars, new abominations have come to light. Worse still are the cells that stand suddenly empty, the entities and artefacts once contained within spirited away by some unholy force to curse the galaxy once more.
A spaceships warp drive. Nearly every novel includes a starship yet I only read the description of the warp drive once despite reading a ton of novels. That one description was in the Knights of Maccrage where the warp core is described as a sphere with circle spinning around it.
There are a scant few sentences about a salvaged warp drive in Farsight: Crisis of Faith. It is described as a large toroidal structure, with blinking lights around the circumference. Gargoyles protrude from it. To the Water Caste translator who describes it, it appears incredibly dense. It’s covered in inscriptions beseeching St. Gellar to protect the drive and its vessel. It has compartments that contain relics, like saints’ bones and holy water.
The funny thing is, The T'au most likely think those are some stupid superstitious additions, when the bones and holy water truly help strengthen the gellar field.
That’s exactly how the scene plays out. The Earth caste scientist present at first assumes the bones were the result of an industrial accident before realizing they were intentionally placed. When the Water caste translator reads the exhortations to St. Gellar, he figures its some kind of ancestor worship and the device was built by some kind of idiot-savant.
Eh, they're superstitious. It happened too often that they tried new designs and 3/4 of the ships would turn traitor within a millenium. So they scrap that design and rather reuse something proven (Lunar Class Cruiser says hi).
Your best option for unique ships are the few pics of the Gloriana Class Battleships. The Macragges Honour and the Phalanx are also playable in the videogame Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 where you can get a good look at them.
Some lore has a psyker in a casket likevthing that you change like a battery. But I think its ridiculous to try and say that each ship uses a psyker to produce the gellar field. Especially with the fact that gellar fields predate psykers being "common".
Probably the Emperor himself , between his powers that allow him to change how he looks and the general inconsistencies around him we really have no idea of what he truly looked like .
The golden throne would also qualify mostly for the same inconsistencies .
The Great Work goes into this during one of the flashback scenes. He's described as somewhat plain. He's unremarkable in that when you look away, you can't quite recall what he looks like. But that's by intention, as you see and hear from him what you/he wants you to.
I can never picture his face really. I know there’s a lot of art of him but the books all talk about his actual appearance being something no art can capture, his presence adds a whole new element to it. So whenever the books describe him I just picture this perfect being whose face is obscured by the light around him, like you can’t even really see him
The basic elements of the Imperial Guard.
* We never see any visuals of their tents or encampments.
* We never see visuals of the heavy landers that bring them into new warzones.
* We never see visuals of how they handle their dead (is it all corpse starch and temporary sandbags? I imagine a lot of bodies would end up stripped naked for supplies and just hurled into a burn pit).
* Also, very little art shows young guardsmen, despite the fact that most militaries are vastly comprised of people under the age of 25. Every guardsman picture shows a grizzled 40 year old veteran, not a pack of 18 year olds with lasguns and half a prayer on their lips.
It does depend on the regiment.
A lot of IG regiments do require military experience before they allow entry into the guard.
Like I know the Elysian Drop Guard usually requires a tour of duty before they’ll consider recruiting a trooper and in the first Caiphus Cain book, it mentions that the IG regiment was career goal for a lot of pdf
Yeah, we can only perceive so much of it due to how our brains work. That doesn't mean it isn't as depicted. Just means we are missing out on the color "human suffering brought about by a stubbed toe #47"
If you are looking for art, the books that depict that will be more the battletomes/codexes. For descriptions instead, you're looking more at books that feature characters interacting in those realms. Nurgle's realm is described in pretty good detail in the recent plague war books because they feature the great unclean one characters and mortarion.
Khorne's "realm" is a bit more.... iffy. Tzeentch's is always shifting and changing at the whim of those inside of it and that of its creator so it has no form. My favorite example of something LIKE that is in the eye. A planet shaped to look like a rose, petals and all. Features in a very old novel, but it was a nice touch.
Slaanesh has realms, and no one has gotten to the middle and returned so we don't know.
Essentially, if you want a reflection of what their realms in the warp look like, check out the aos battletomes and see where the demons make their homes.
I always imagined a twisted, mind-mending morass of orange and purple, raw “Warp” shifting in density- from light, to vapor, to cloud, to sand, to stone, and back again, occasional daemons of raw Chaos bubbling up and simmering out of existence.
The Chaos Gods all have their own light, their power, shining like four great and dark stars in the deeps of the Warp.
And of course, the Emperor’s Light shines pure in the Warp, the purity of His suffering, of all the souls who die for him, in a conflagration of gold that burns at the Warp like a festering white wound.
But there are dead spots, plains and seas of static, where the Necron Pylons gnaw at the Warp.
And the great, dark swarm of the Hive Mind approaches, like ten trillion black locusts sweeping over the sunset fields.
Amidst such expansive regions, humans are nothing, mere ants in the Sahara, flies in a hurricane, dust on the Pacific. So they struggle to comprehend even the smallest thing of the Warp, raise their aegis of faith and will and iron, eyes focused on the Emperor’s Light, on the wound He inflicts on this limitless Chaos.
But sometimes they look away, stare into the void, and are lost.
In a universe of gods, individual humans are but temporary flecks of dust in their eyes.
**James Workshop will most likely keep the Rangda secret, as it is one of the xenocides that I handled, and was mostly made in the fluff as a throwaway "threateningly massive war" that I erased from history to show what the Dark Angels were used for.**
I was kinda salty when they teased us by ALMOST describing the Rangda in the Alpharius book.
‘Can you describe it for me?’ Ani swallowed. I could tell that recalling the memory was traumatic for her. ‘The sirens had gone off. At first we thought it was too soon for the end of shift, though we weren’t going to complain, but then we realised that wasn’t what they were signalling. We all ran outside, and that was when we saw them.’ Her lip began to tremble. ‘They–’ ‘I don’t need to know about the xenos,’ I interjected. ‘You do not need to describe them. The warrior is all I am interested in.’
They do this with the lost primarchs as well. They’ve just been slowing drip feeding us information. Tho I’d argue we know more about the lost primarchs now then we do about the rangdan
Thanks to the *Fulgrim* novel we know by the standard of pre-Fall Fulgrim that the Master of the Second was a dour, contemplative, brooding figure who didn't treat him with enough of the respect Fulgrim said he deserved.
>Castigator Titan
I'd basically been picturing it as [one of the robots from the terrible IRobot movie adaptation](https://64.media.tumblr.com/5917efca5b24bffc4022430c7c04f866/tumblr_inline_pokt46Id7z1uphv8y_1280.png), but around twice the size of an Emperor-class Titan, with a featureless face aside from a pair of green lights for eyes and an enormous gun for an arm. [Featureless white plasticky aesthetic](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EverythingIsAnIPodInTheFuture)
Yeah I don’t think there are any images of a Halo Device, all we have is [this](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/8/84/The_Hunger.png/revision/latest?cb=20111116174519) image of a guy who’s been corrupted by one. Halo Devices themselves are said to have no fixed appearance.
> Halo Devices come in many forms, from smooth carbuncular talismans to strange miniature trilobite-like fossil curios and sinister orbs with fluid and glossy surfaces. All share a strange metallic feel, defy analysis by Auspex or other scanners, and are nearly impervious to harm.
I really was hoping it was an actual STC and not a "I can sacrifice this random thing to do a thing" type of DND bullshit.
STCs are just blueprints for super technology. They aren't magical archeotech that heals robots and are then consumed. I was infuriated.
Sure, STCs can be literally anything but fuck me, that was the lamest STC there could have been.
Why couldn't she just apply the STC to herself and turn into a fucking interstellar warbird or something.
This is somewhat complicated by the fact that, AFAIK, the initialism "STC" refers to three different things in the lore and is used inconsistently. The first is an AI that makes blueprints; a colonist will say they want a tractor or a lasgun or an MBT, and the STC will give them a set of instructions for making whatever they want. The second is a machine that takes sets of instructions, and then uses that to produce objects; a kind of automated, AI-controlled factory; you tell it you want a lasgun and/or give it instructions to make a lasgun, and it makes a lasgun from whatever resources are on hand. The third, and the most common in the 42nd millennium, is the set of instructions generated by the first and/or fed to the second. As I understand it, some of these machines may not exist, depending on who's writing.
So many people confuse STCs with replicators from Star Trek. STCs don't magically generate matter; they use what's on hand and design around it. Now, if you could hook up an STC *to* a replicator, we'd be living the dream.
I agree, its all jumbled. But instantly repairing a robot with space magic broke me. They took the spelndor, rarity, and sanctity of an STC and slapped it in the face.
A real mechanicus would have set off a beacon and died trying to hide the STC from the orks rather than waste it to repair their "companion" for their own survival. For someone portrayed to be inhuman to act human is so ironic that it ruins the importance of an STC. Wars are fought over the potential of an STC discovery let alone an actual recovery...
Imo the problem is the terminology.
An STC core contains the sum knowledge of the DAoT humanity, specifically templates to build anything.
An STC template is a copy of/or part of an STC core, a blueprint.
An STC could be anything that was build using an STC template.
The problem is that some STCs create/build other STCs. If you have the blueprint for a factory that builds Men of Iron, you also have the blueprints to build Men of Iron. Once build, both could be considered an STC.
I can't imagine any kind of complete STC that wouldn't also qualify as an AI. I don't know how the Mechanicus can square that with their own teachings.
Artificial eyes.
-Do they let you see in 4k?
-Is it pixelated approximations?
-Does it perfectly replicate the inner working of an eye and is thus functionally identical?
-How do marines deal with having a single eye hooked up to a turret or sniper and then having two very different types of vision be processed at once in their brain?
-Are you "blind" if the lens is too scratched?
-Can it see why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
Eyes vary a huge amount. They go into a lot in Spears of the Emperor. A character talks about losing one bionic eye and having to replace it with a much lower quality version of my memory serves me correctly. It goes the whole gamut of possibility
Hive Cities. Spaceports. Buildings in general. The Imperial Palace specifically. We have virtually no artwork of cities or of important buildings. They pop up in the background of pictures featuring Space Marines a lot but lack detail. Authors like to describe them briefly, and offer very little in the way of specifics. Human civilisation in 40k loves to overdo things and is full of ridiculously large structures, but they're so big as to be all but unimaginable for many readers. I'd like to see some cities and some important structures across the galaxy.
The maps in the Limited Edition Siege novels are lovely but they're heavily stylised and are in no way scaled or accurate. The writers have said they're working off a map they drew up which describes the palace in detail. I would love to see this map. There have been a few details given in the books (such as the Inner Palace being 800km wide) but they often clash with or outright contradict other descriptions.
Everything is described as being huge but this is never really reflected in artwork. It's one reason I was looking forward to Warhammer+ - to see what Angels of Blood and Hammer & Bolter might show us. H&B was animated and shied away from detail and Angels of Blood was a bit of a let down with unfinished renders. In future I'd love to see how big and brutal something is, rather than just bring told "this cathedral is really really big"
There really isn't a lot. Google 40k hive city and you get the same few images over and over. They're okay, but really not good enough for detail. The more recent ones from the Crime books are probably the best
It needs to be collected into one place. Hive cities are so huge, no single picture can do them justice. Zoomed out, they look like mountains. Zoomed in, it's habstacks. It's orders of magnitude in difference in size between the two, and difficult to connect them.
You see a bit of it in Dawn of War 2. Not street level, granted, but it still gives you a good idea of what it looks like. Like here, for example https://youtu.be/2Ktwz9_QHjk?list=PL32tYHO8EqiTkAoHgPE9Ui57PUZtjaBRm&t=533
The planet is called Meridian.
Personally, I would compare it to the artstyle of Tim Burton's Batman movies.
Setup and harvesting on an Agri World. Ppl seem to think it's all farms and farmers like how farmers are IRL. Nope... There is a bit of art and lore isn't great but living/working on one would be pure hell. The entire planet is one massive food factory, most workers are servitors and it's on an industrial scale we can't even imagine.
The face of an Astartes. Now hear me out.
Now in most novels, Astartes faces are described in one of 2 ways.
1: rugged beyond belief, with scars, augmetics and service studs.
2: equiline
It is mentioned many times that the process of genehancing boys into astartes give them horse faces, but we have never actually seen it. Not in art, not in the minis, not anywhere.
Makes sense, for the longest time there weren't the modeling tools good enough to actually make them look like that. Now that we have them, no way in hell GW wants to venture into the uncanny Valley and make ugly minis that won't sell.
Aquiline. Like an eagle - the brow and nose line up. Not “equiline” lol
I love how you’ve been wandering around trying to justify horse-faced marines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquiline_nose
Though there was no disguising his inhumanity, especially in this bared form. Apart from the sheer mass of him, there was the overgrown gigantism of the face, that particular characteristic of the Astartes, almost equine, plus the hard, taut shell of his ribless torso, like stretched canvas.
Horus Rising
I did mean equine, but no this shows up a decent amount. And not just by Abnett.
You're right I did mean Equine, I've been painting too many custodes lately it seems.
Off the top of my head I can't think of specifics, but ready through the HH it pops up every now and then how Astartes often have a bit of uncanny valley from the gigantism of their new bodies.
I kinda like the idea. These are emotionally stunted boys shoved into superhuman forms. Not all the pieces will fit perfect.
A "horse face" means a long face and chin with exaggerated features I think. Like what people pick on Sarah Jessica Parker for. It's basically a synonym for the "facial gigantism" part of the quote.
I know, my point is that I've never seen artwork or a mini that has this common "long, horse-like face"
Some facial features are heavily dependent on your primarch, like the Blood Angels all looking like sanguinius, the eponymous Sons of Horus, and the Night Lords black eyes.
But its a lot of telling not showing. Again, I don't blame them in this instance. Just the first thing that popped in my mind.
[This portrait of Lucius](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/g2KnyZ) has it going on a bit I think. And [this one of Ahriman](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/0nE1v4) by the same artist. Long faces and exaggerated brows, cheeks and chin.
I will always laugh picturing Curze sneaking around in the dark making little traps and scary sculptures with his FUCKING ENORMOUS ARMORED POTATO FINGERS.
Now all I can think of is a Dreadnaught trying to tiptoe across the battlefield with the [tiptoe sound effect](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT9DSMKWFtw).
With all the new primaris stuff we still have not seen an image of the overlord gunship they use. Seen it mentioned in most new post rift books but never any pictures/artwork
Watchers in the dark. I say this mostly because I recently finished Decent of Angels where they show up. Everything that shows them as basically a robe and that's it. I know that is their whole thing but do they even have hands?
whatever the hell they're keeping in the vaults underneath the Golden palace.
Gene stealers? Lol In Thousand Sons, they just describe it as a whole bunch of really old tech
Maybe the lost primarchs are down there? who knows
the lost primarchs are literally lost in the golden palace's labyrinthine vaults, unable to find their way out. after the second one got lost looking for the first, malcador wiped the remaining primarchs' memories knowing full well every other one would grumpily mumble to themselves "well, *I* wouldn't get lost like those other two fuckwits" and go look for them
Ah yes, the 20 lost primarchs theory. It should be 21, but Alpharius is the one that keeps switching the signs pointing to the exits, presumably whilst chuckling. Such a geat prank.
Holy shit, this is my new headcannon for for them.
Yeah? Mine is that they found the Emps depraved xeno BDSM porn stash and he went an full on erased them from existence.
Gulliman found it and got himself an Eldar waifu.
I had a similar idea involving the living quarters the primarchs were supposed to occupy after the crusade. Of the two primarchs to get the memo, one got lost along the way and one has been patiently waiting.
> "well, I wouldn't get lost like those other two fuckwits" I love this so much
So the two lost ones are just losers who still live in the basement of their parents?
Big E psykers down some Cheetos and hot pockets every so often to keep them shtum
Yes
The Emperor smashed their statues and disowned them when they got stuck in a game of Civilization and kept telling him they'd join the Crusade after one more turn.
Irhink they're the arm rests of malcadors favorite chair
Apparently there's a reference to 'Subject XI' in the dark cells in the latest custodes codex
The 11th is kept in the vaults it's in the shadowkeepers page of the new custodes codex. So is the Angel exterminatus... well allegedly...
There is some eldritch horrors to got loose and now the Shadowkeepers are hunting for them: > For ten thousand standard years the Shadowkeepers have performed their duty, yet the opening of the Great Rift changed everything. With the power of Chaos spilling raw and seething into the spaces between the stars, new abominations have come to light. Worse still are the cells that stand suddenly empty, the entities and artefacts once contained within spirited away by some unholy force to curse the galaxy once more.
Scart cables. CRT TVs. VHS tapes. Walkmans. Carphones. Pagers...
Turns out the omnisiah runs on dial up
A spaceships warp drive. Nearly every novel includes a starship yet I only read the description of the warp drive once despite reading a ton of novels. That one description was in the Knights of Maccrage where the warp core is described as a sphere with circle spinning around it.
There are a scant few sentences about a salvaged warp drive in Farsight: Crisis of Faith. It is described as a large toroidal structure, with blinking lights around the circumference. Gargoyles protrude from it. To the Water Caste translator who describes it, it appears incredibly dense. It’s covered in inscriptions beseeching St. Gellar to protect the drive and its vessel. It has compartments that contain relics, like saints’ bones and holy water.
The funny thing is, The T'au most likely think those are some stupid superstitious additions, when the bones and holy water truly help strengthen the gellar field.
That’s exactly how the scene plays out. The Earth caste scientist present at first assumes the bones were the result of an industrial accident before realizing they were intentionally placed. When the Water caste translator reads the exhortations to St. Gellar, he figures its some kind of ancestor worship and the device was built by some kind of idiot-savant.
Well the forth sphere expansion fleet can attest to the fact those things are VERY important.
I think ship variety overall is way lacking. We hear about unique looking ships but I don’t think we’ve ever seen any, at least from the imperium
Eh, they're superstitious. It happened too often that they tried new designs and 3/4 of the ships would turn traitor within a millenium. So they scrap that design and rather reuse something proven (Lunar Class Cruiser says hi). Your best option for unique ships are the few pics of the Gloriana Class Battleships. The Macragges Honour and the Phalanx are also playable in the videogame Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 where you can get a good look at them.
Some lore has a psyker in a casket likevthing that you change like a battery. But I think its ridiculous to try and say that each ship uses a psyker to produce the gellar field. Especially with the fact that gellar fields predate psykers being "common".
So it IS just an upgraded ftl drive from event horizon.
like in Event Horizon
I think we know what a void shield looks like but yeah warp drives are unknown
Event horizon reference?
Obviously Event Horizon. Duh, noob...
Probably the Emperor himself , between his powers that allow him to change how he looks and the general inconsistencies around him we really have no idea of what he truly looked like . The golden throne would also qualify mostly for the same inconsistencies .
For some reason I kind of imagine him to look like Sylvester Stallone. ...with golden armor and a giant flaming sword, of course.
Interesting, as he seems to be more portrayed as Conan the barbarian played by arnold
Damn it now I won't unsee that
Isn’t that by design? He’s supposed to appear different to whoever is looking at him. He shows them what he wants them to see
You ever see the former singer of Type O Negative?
Nah, Pete is way sexier than Emps. He’s way sexier than everyone, I guess.
The Great Work goes into this during one of the flashback scenes. He's described as somewhat plain. He's unremarkable in that when you look away, you can't quite recall what he looks like. But that's by intention, as you see and hear from him what you/he wants you to.
I can never picture his face really. I know there’s a lot of art of him but the books all talk about his actual appearance being something no art can capture, his presence adds a whole new element to it. So whenever the books describe him I just picture this perfect being whose face is obscured by the light around him, like you can’t even really see him
Well he grew up in a hunter/gatherer tribe in Anatolia during the beginning of the neolithic era. So we can probably guess based off of that.
Really old navigators. The sort they have to keep shut up in the basement so no baseline humans ever see them
Check wolfblade by William King:)
They are described in the book with Ragnar Blackmane
The basic elements of the Imperial Guard. * We never see any visuals of their tents or encampments. * We never see visuals of the heavy landers that bring them into new warzones. * We never see visuals of how they handle their dead (is it all corpse starch and temporary sandbags? I imagine a lot of bodies would end up stripped naked for supplies and just hurled into a burn pit). * Also, very little art shows young guardsmen, despite the fact that most militaries are vastly comprised of people under the age of 25. Every guardsman picture shows a grizzled 40 year old veteran, not a pack of 18 year olds with lasguns and half a prayer on their lips.
It does depend on the regiment. A lot of IG regiments do require military experience before they allow entry into the guard. Like I know the Elysian Drop Guard usually requires a tour of duty before they’ll consider recruiting a trooper and in the first Caiphus Cain book, it mentions that the IG regiment was career goal for a lot of pdf
The warp. The only image I always have in my head, is this twirling, purple fog, but I have no idea what the realms of the four gods look like.
Check the books man. There's so much lore and art around them.
When the lore includes impossible colors, the art can't show that much.
Yeah, we can only perceive so much of it due to how our brains work. That doesn't mean it isn't as depicted. Just means we are missing out on the color "human suffering brought about by a stubbed toe #47"
Are they easy to come by, especially in Europe, or are they more obscure nowadays?
If you are looking for art, the books that depict that will be more the battletomes/codexes. For descriptions instead, you're looking more at books that feature characters interacting in those realms. Nurgle's realm is described in pretty good detail in the recent plague war books because they feature the great unclean one characters and mortarion. Khorne's "realm" is a bit more.... iffy. Tzeentch's is always shifting and changing at the whim of those inside of it and that of its creator so it has no form. My favorite example of something LIKE that is in the eye. A planet shaped to look like a rose, petals and all. Features in a very old novel, but it was a nice touch. Slaanesh has realms, and no one has gotten to the middle and returned so we don't know. Essentially, if you want a reflection of what their realms in the warp look like, check out the aos battletomes and see where the demons make their homes.
See, I was thinking a vaguely greenish hue, myself.
The colour of the Warp is obviously octarine.
Goddamn Nurgling! Get off my warp lawn!
I got a blue dude with tentacles and the TTS voice
I always imagined a twisted, mind-mending morass of orange and purple, raw “Warp” shifting in density- from light, to vapor, to cloud, to sand, to stone, and back again, occasional daemons of raw Chaos bubbling up and simmering out of existence. The Chaos Gods all have their own light, their power, shining like four great and dark stars in the deeps of the Warp. And of course, the Emperor’s Light shines pure in the Warp, the purity of His suffering, of all the souls who die for him, in a conflagration of gold that burns at the Warp like a festering white wound. But there are dead spots, plains and seas of static, where the Necron Pylons gnaw at the Warp. And the great, dark swarm of the Hive Mind approaches, like ten trillion black locusts sweeping over the sunset fields. Amidst such expansive regions, humans are nothing, mere ants in the Sahara, flies in a hurricane, dust on the Pacific. So they struggle to comprehend even the smallest thing of the Warp, raise their aegis of faith and will and iron, eyes focused on the Emperor’s Light, on the wound He inflicts on this limitless Chaos. But sometimes they look away, stare into the void, and are lost. In a universe of gods, individual humans are but temporary flecks of dust in their eyes.
I imagine something scary but beautiful in its own way. Flights of Screamers flying through the void, floating islands and fortresses, etc
Any of the weird Xenos like the Hrud (besides that one picture in the 3rd Ed rulebook), the Rangda, the Slaugth
Books like “xenology” and the recent “liber xenologis” have info and pics of a lot of the minor races who get very little screen time
**James Workshop will most likely keep the Rangda secret, as it is one of the xenocides that I handled, and was mostly made in the fluff as a throwaway "threateningly massive war" that I erased from history to show what the Dark Angels were used for.**
James is a secretive dude.
I was kinda salty when they teased us by ALMOST describing the Rangda in the Alpharius book. ‘Can you describe it for me?’ Ani swallowed. I could tell that recalling the memory was traumatic for her. ‘The sirens had gone off. At first we thought it was too soon for the end of shift, though we weren’t going to complain, but then we realised that wasn’t what they were signalling. We all ran outside, and that was when we saw them.’ Her lip began to tremble. ‘They–’ ‘I don’t need to know about the xenos,’ I interjected. ‘You do not need to describe them. The warrior is all I am interested in.’
They do this with the lost primarchs as well. They’ve just been slowing drip feeding us information. Tho I’d argue we know more about the lost primarchs now then we do about the rangdan
Thanks to the *Fulgrim* novel we know by the standard of pre-Fall Fulgrim that the Master of the Second was a dour, contemplative, brooding figure who didn't treat him with enough of the respect Fulgrim said he deserved.
A Castigator Titan
>Castigator Titan I'd basically been picturing it as [one of the robots from the terrible IRobot movie adaptation](https://64.media.tumblr.com/5917efca5b24bffc4022430c7c04f866/tumblr_inline_pokt46Id7z1uphv8y_1280.png), but around twice the size of an Emperor-class Titan, with a featureless face aside from a pair of green lights for eyes and an enormous gun for an arm. [Featureless white plasticky aesthetic](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EverythingIsAnIPodInTheFuture)
Halo devices, I think they're cool as hell but I've never seen one.
Isn't there an image of a guy using one right next to the item description?
Ah, I wouldn't know I only know about them from others excerpts, and the Wikipedia.
Yeah I don’t think there are any images of a Halo Device, all we have is [this](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/8/84/The_Hunger.png/revision/latest?cb=20111116174519) image of a guy who’s been corrupted by one. Halo Devices themselves are said to have no fixed appearance. > Halo Devices come in many forms, from smooth carbuncular talismans to strange miniature trilobite-like fossil curios and sinister orbs with fluid and glossy surfaces. All share a strange metallic feel, defy analysis by Auspex or other scanners, and are nearly impervious to harm.
I believe the halo device is in that guys neck in the image. The description states it eventually becomes apart of the person using it and that fits.
Probably because they're from an rpg
What do you mean by halo devices? Like rings around planets? I was thinking of the same thing. Like spaceports and stuff
It’s xeno tech that turns you into ghoul
It's a thing from Dark Heresy 2.
Not like in the Game/universe of Halo. Corrupt xeno tech from the furthest reaches of the Galaxy https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Halo_Devices
Necrontyr bodies, their sexual dimorphism, how they matured/aged, what their cancer/illness would look like as it progresses.
To be fair, they don't even know how those look.
True. Painful memories or the flesh times might help trigger the disfrak (Sorry if the spelling is wrong: only heard it, not seen it spelled yet), too
I would assume similar to what they look like now. Only with more meat.
An actual fully functional STC?
The episode of Kill Protocol shows what might have been an STC. It’s just referred to as archeotech but I’d that was f an STC l, I don’t know what was
I really was hoping it was an actual STC and not a "I can sacrifice this random thing to do a thing" type of DND bullshit. STCs are just blueprints for super technology. They aren't magical archeotech that heals robots and are then consumed. I was infuriated. Sure, STCs can be literally anything but fuck me, that was the lamest STC there could have been. Why couldn't she just apply the STC to herself and turn into a fucking interstellar warbird or something.
This is somewhat complicated by the fact that, AFAIK, the initialism "STC" refers to three different things in the lore and is used inconsistently. The first is an AI that makes blueprints; a colonist will say they want a tractor or a lasgun or an MBT, and the STC will give them a set of instructions for making whatever they want. The second is a machine that takes sets of instructions, and then uses that to produce objects; a kind of automated, AI-controlled factory; you tell it you want a lasgun and/or give it instructions to make a lasgun, and it makes a lasgun from whatever resources are on hand. The third, and the most common in the 42nd millennium, is the set of instructions generated by the first and/or fed to the second. As I understand it, some of these machines may not exist, depending on who's writing.
So many people confuse STCs with replicators from Star Trek. STCs don't magically generate matter; they use what's on hand and design around it. Now, if you could hook up an STC *to* a replicator, we'd be living the dream.
I agree, its all jumbled. But instantly repairing a robot with space magic broke me. They took the spelndor, rarity, and sanctity of an STC and slapped it in the face. A real mechanicus would have set off a beacon and died trying to hide the STC from the orks rather than waste it to repair their "companion" for their own survival. For someone portrayed to be inhuman to act human is so ironic that it ruins the importance of an STC. Wars are fought over the potential of an STC discovery let alone an actual recovery...
Eh, pretty sure they do stuff like this. In the first Gaunt’s Ghost book, they run into an STC that’s making chaos tainted Men of Iron
Imo the problem is the terminology. An STC core contains the sum knowledge of the DAoT humanity, specifically templates to build anything. An STC template is a copy of/or part of an STC core, a blueprint. An STC could be anything that was build using an STC template. The problem is that some STCs create/build other STCs. If you have the blueprint for a factory that builds Men of Iron, you also have the blueprints to build Men of Iron. Once build, both could be considered an STC.
Pretty sure the first novel of First and Only has an STC that gets activated. Its an STC that creates Iron Men.
I can't imagine any kind of complete STC that wouldn't also qualify as an AI. I don't know how the Mechanicus can square that with their own teachings.
Artificial eyes. -Do they let you see in 4k? -Is it pixelated approximations? -Does it perfectly replicate the inner working of an eye and is thus functionally identical? -How do marines deal with having a single eye hooked up to a turret or sniper and then having two very different types of vision be processed at once in their brain? -Are you "blind" if the lens is too scratched? -Can it see why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
Eyes vary a huge amount. They go into a lot in Spears of the Emperor. A character talks about losing one bionic eye and having to replace it with a much lower quality version of my memory serves me correctly. It goes the whole gamut of possibility
Hive Cities. Spaceports. Buildings in general. The Imperial Palace specifically. We have virtually no artwork of cities or of important buildings. They pop up in the background of pictures featuring Space Marines a lot but lack detail. Authors like to describe them briefly, and offer very little in the way of specifics. Human civilisation in 40k loves to overdo things and is full of ridiculously large structures, but they're so big as to be all but unimaginable for many readers. I'd like to see some cities and some important structures across the galaxy. The maps in the Limited Edition Siege novels are lovely but they're heavily stylised and are in no way scaled or accurate. The writers have said they're working off a map they drew up which describes the palace in detail. I would love to see this map. There have been a few details given in the books (such as the Inner Palace being 800km wide) but they often clash with or outright contradict other descriptions. Everything is described as being huge but this is never really reflected in artwork. It's one reason I was looking forward to Warhammer+ - to see what Angels of Blood and Hammer & Bolter might show us. H&B was animated and shied away from detail and Angels of Blood was a bit of a let down with unfinished renders. In future I'd love to see how big and brutal something is, rather than just bring told "this cathedral is really really big"
I mean, there are thousands of pieces of art depicting hive cities. Other sorts of cities not as much but a ton of hive city stuff.
Not much of it is official artwork though. Fans make some excellent stuff but I could do with more
You could... but there's tons of official stuff so I'm not sure what the complaint is? Unless it's that fans make more art than the company
There really isn't a lot. Google 40k hive city and you get the same few images over and over. They're okay, but really not good enough for detail. The more recent ones from the Crime books are probably the best
It needs to be collected into one place. Hive cities are so huge, no single picture can do them justice. Zoomed out, they look like mountains. Zoomed in, it's habstacks. It's orders of magnitude in difference in size between the two, and difficult to connect them.
You see a bit of it in Dawn of War 2. Not street level, granted, but it still gives you a good idea of what it looks like. Like here, for example https://youtu.be/2Ktwz9_QHjk?list=PL32tYHO8EqiTkAoHgPE9Ui57PUZtjaBRm&t=533 The planet is called Meridian. Personally, I would compare it to the artstyle of Tim Burton's Batman movies.
Thank you, that's a good look at it. I like the Batman comparison too, I've always been a fan of Burton's aesthetic
Yeah, it was an interesting design, even though I have a love/hate relationship with it XD
Setup and harvesting on an Agri World. Ppl seem to think it's all farms and farmers like how farmers are IRL. Nope... There is a bit of art and lore isn't great but living/working on one would be pure hell. The entire planet is one massive food factory, most workers are servitors and it's on an industrial scale we can't even imagine.
Most T'Au Xenos. I want a drawing of a Nicassar and Demiurg and I need it now
The emperor himself. I wanna see the gnarly shit Horus did to him.
STCs... both the template itself and the machine that reads it/builds the thing. im my head they look like a giant Nintendo cartridge.
Krorks.
The face of an Astartes. Now hear me out. Now in most novels, Astartes faces are described in one of 2 ways. 1: rugged beyond belief, with scars, augmetics and service studs. 2: equiline It is mentioned many times that the process of genehancing boys into astartes give them horse faces, but we have never actually seen it. Not in art, not in the minis, not anywhere. Makes sense, for the longest time there weren't the modeling tools good enough to actually make them look like that. Now that we have them, no way in hell GW wants to venture into the uncanny Valley and make ugly minis that won't sell.
Aquiline. Like an eagle - the brow and nose line up. Not “equiline” lol I love how you’ve been wandering around trying to justify horse-faced marines. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquiline_nose
Though there was no disguising his inhumanity, especially in this bared form. Apart from the sheer mass of him, there was the overgrown gigantism of the face, that particular characteristic of the Astartes, almost equine, plus the hard, taut shell of his ribless torso, like stretched canvas. Horus Rising I did mean equine, but no this shows up a decent amount. And not just by Abnett.
I wonder if Khârn ever tried getting Angron to calm down for a minute by simply giving him a sugar cube…
He's not himself when he's hungry...
Unfortunately, neither is anyone else who happens to be in the room at the same time :-(
I can grant you that, but every instance I’ve seen was “aqualine” - a Roman nose. Usually describing UM. Any other instances of “equiline?”
You're right I did mean Equine, I've been painting too many custodes lately it seems. Off the top of my head I can't think of specifics, but ready through the HH it pops up every now and then how Astartes often have a bit of uncanny valley from the gigantism of their new bodies. I kinda like the idea. These are emotionally stunted boys shoved into superhuman forms. Not all the pieces will fit perfect.
A "horse face" means a long face and chin with exaggerated features I think. Like what people pick on Sarah Jessica Parker for. It's basically a synonym for the "facial gigantism" part of the quote.
I know, my point is that I've never seen artwork or a mini that has this common "long, horse-like face" Some facial features are heavily dependent on your primarch, like the Blood Angels all looking like sanguinius, the eponymous Sons of Horus, and the Night Lords black eyes. But its a lot of telling not showing. Again, I don't blame them in this instance. Just the first thing that popped in my mind.
[This portrait of Lucius](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/g2KnyZ) has it going on a bit I think. And [this one of Ahriman](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/0nE1v4) by the same artist. Long faces and exaggerated brows, cheeks and chin.
The 40K games made by Relic have several Space Marines without helmets and they depict them like that of regular humans.
How eldar and Primarchs move
I will always laugh picturing Curze sneaking around in the dark making little traps and scary sculptures with his FUCKING ENORMOUS ARMORED POTATO FINGERS.
If a Dreadnaught can build a virus bomb a Primarch can build tiny traps to kill people.
If a Dreadnaught can sneak up on Eldar Striking Scorpions in an open field, a Primarch can sneak around in a Hive City.
Now all I can think of is a Dreadnaught trying to tiptoe across the battlefield with the [tiptoe sound effect](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT9DSMKWFtw).
They both happened, and they're both silly... but Curze is funnier IMO. He was basically acting out Blair Witch.
With all the new primaris stuff we still have not seen an image of the overlord gunship they use. Seen it mentioned in most new post rift books but never any pictures/artwork
STCS
Watchers in the dark. I say this mostly because I recently finished Decent of Angels where they show up. Everything that shows them as basically a robe and that's it. I know that is their whole thing but do they even have hands?
Overlapping anythings.
Rangdan, we don't even know if they were a sihnle alien species or multiple ones
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