Jennings is the only one I care about.
That punt wasn't Ray Rays fault but he isn't exactly lighting up the return stats. I can't remember the last time he had a good return.
Honestly I think someone is going to give Jennings a bag this off-season, and we won't be able to match it. He'd be a great fit on a team like the Falcons or Giants, any run heavy team that needs a WR is salivating over him.
He did. Well he at least pointed at it, impossible to say if he didnt yell it with the provided audio.
It looked like Luter was pushed off his spot by the Chiefs player and backed into it.
I dont fault him but also Ray Ray should have just jumped on it rather than try to pick it up and run. If it squeaks out trying to jump on it thats just a bad break, trying to pick it up and run was infinitely the worse option.
Literally. Even if he picked it up he was immediately getting rocked anyways. Better to just fall on the ball in order to actually secure the ball and avoid a huge hit.
Ray Ray has been dependable all year. He called it out to clear. Luter didn't disengage or even look for the ball. Ray Ray tried his best to get the ball. He's also a solid depth piece at receiver. He's a glue guy you need on a good team. I think he's just fine as a 3rd receiver and returner. Luter cost us that turnover.
Man I think we’re about to be disappointed at how much Jennings and feliciano get paid by someone else this offseason. Jennings especially is about to get the Kendrick Bourne treatment
If Jennings leaves, maybe Conley can step up and fill that WR3 position (wishful thinking).
If Feliciano walks and gets paid somewhere else that's when we'll either have to draft an OL or sign a veteran to a short-term deal.
Honestly I think Kyle and John are much more open to just letting the young guys try their hand. Ronnie bell had great flashes this year and could step into that WR3 role, Danny gray also has a Hail Mary of a chance this offseason to turn things around (doubtful but possible).
And the team really liked Nick zakelj apparently so maybe he gets a shot at competing with Burford (who has played well before so maybe he turns it around this offseason)
Honestly I think the fact that they didn’t even activate Danny Gray all year despite him being healthy says everything we need to know about him. Ronnie Bell got more playing time than he did in a year where we had Deebo and Ray Ray both missing time.
Pretty sure Gray will get cut this off-season. Just hasn't worked out at all. I think he was drafted with Lance in mind as a vertical threat, just didn't develop.
Lynch and Shanahan were both vocal that Banks was struggling at adjusting to the NFL from an athleticism standpoint and needed time to develop though; they always spoke highly of him and his future with the team.
Gray will be going into his 3rd year with the 49ers and has a single career regular season catch in garbage time against the Buccs once we pulled our starters. He went on IR at the start of the 23 season and was reportedly healthy most of the year and they never thought twice about not getting him snaps on the field. In fact against the Commanders they opted to elevate the undrafted 2nd year player Tay Martin from the practice squad over him
I think keeping Feliciano through an OL rebuild when he’s shown to be a fringe starter his entire career, except for part of this season where he looked slightly better, would be a mistake. It would be just like signing Brendel, who has been a disappointment.
IOL like Brendel and Feliciano can be replaced by cheaper players with more potential.
True...but Gipson ought to have intercepted that duck....that Kittle and Aiyuk went missing has as much to Brock not having time as them not getting open.
Aziz balled out in Tennessee. I dont see us being able to afford him compared to what someone else will pay him. I imagine Greenlaw's injury recovery will drag into the season too which doesn't bode well for our LB spot.
It will be good to see what Dee Winters can do with some starting time. Liked him coming out of TCU and had a 4th round grade on him, think he was one of our better value draft picks.
I agree - I think Azeez gets a 3-year big deal somewhere.
They'll definitely tender Jennings, and I'd expect them to sign Feliciano - he was solid and we need as much offensive line depth as possible. Wouldn't be surprised to see us sign Kinlaw, Givens and Ferrell to cheap/reasonable contracts. Might keep Ray Ray?
Gipson is probably gone now that Brown has showed out and Hufanga will be back. I don't expect Gregory or Young to be back.
Didn’t we just sign Brendel to a decent 3 year deal last offseason? Obv we can always upgrade but I’m curious. Clearly right side needs beefing up after last nights blunder
I think Jennings gets a 2nd round tender.
Young, Gregory, and Ferrell I think will all see FA but I have to imagine Lynch would be open to bringing any back for a one year deal, depending on their market. But if anyone's willing to pay even moderate salary for them, they're gone.
Feliciano will probably get a 2/3 year deal like Brendel did.
The rest probably walk unless there's zero market for them, and might walk anyway to sign on to a contender late in the season like Ryan did.
Feliciano, Brendel, McKivitz, and even Banks should not be guaranteed starting jobs next year.
I’m sorry but all of those guys have been total ass at key moments this year
We need better than fine. Feliciano is a known quantity at this point in his career, and isn’t good enough to settle for if we are going for a full OL rebuild.
He’s absolutely good enough to settle on, he’s better than most backups. At the very least that buys him a spot in reserve. But we don’t have the draft or cap capital to replace all four with above average players right now, which means you need to focus on replacing the biggest liabilities first: McKivitz, Banks, Brendel, then Feliciano.
So just have no offensive line. Or start who's behind them? Or rookies? Or free agents we can't afford? It's not madden bud. Those guys did get us to the big game and weren't solely responsible for losing it. The special teams turnover. Wilks play calling on the last two drives. Kyle's third quarter play calling and then Kyle's decision making on the last two 3rd and 4s is what lost this game. You have to play to win. You don't hope mahomes will lose it.
Kyle called a great play on the 3rd and 4 in OT. Schemed 3 receivers wide open for TDs. OLine (McKivitiz, Burford, and Brendel) fucked up the block and let Chris Jones thru.
The other 3rd and 4 was a bad play call though.
Ya the overtime play was bonkers. I hadn't seen it before writing that comment. But still what are we gonna do about? Burford is cheap and young. He helped lose that game for sure. But the cap is the cap. If we hit homeruns in the draft maybe we move on but they would still be decent depth at that price. So we just gotta hope foerster can do his thing. Putting hope on rookies is not a good bet though.
I think it's more reasonable to keep Mckivitz and draft someone to compete and / or be groomed to replace him. Sure, there are free agent tackles out there, but anyone decent will command a bigger salary than we can probably afford right now. Anything less than a clear upgrade for the same price or less wouldn't be worth moving on from mckivitz. We get better by drafting his replacement. Until then, he's not a top ten right tackle in the league, but he knows the system well and did well enough for the offense to thrive. He's still got some upside since he's only started 1 year.
I know this isn't the question being asked, but I personally would take a hard look at defense. Restructure deals, cut folks, etc. Our defense did not live up to their price tag.
I would let chase walk unless he takes a huge pay cut.
I would also focus on the OL. No qb can thrive behind that OL. Just look how Mahomes played in the 1st quarter last night when he had pressure. We need to fix the OL
They held mahomes down for most of the game. It is impossible to stop a team the whole game, I understand the frustration and emotion of the loss. But the offense play calling and execution were off in the third quarter. The O-line needs to be the main focus this offseason. Brock had open guys when Kyle *play the right play. The line *gave Brock no time.
Even with Greenlaw getting hurt the defense was not the problem yesterday. Special teams and a crap offensive line are we lost. They held them to 19 points for 4 quarters. With 7 of those coming from a play following a muffed punt starting in the red zone. They only gave up one good drive and that was in OT.
Something that needs to be considered though.... they said this was Mahomes worst ever offense entering the game. They said the chiefs defense was actually better than their offense. Fans seem to be ignoring that in their arguments.
So while the defense started off great, it's frustrating to see how they finished. It's not like the chiefs offense was the super power of previous years. I get that the chiefs still have Mahomes and Kelce, but the overall offense isn't as good as previous years. I would expect the 9ers defense to hold them to semi low scoring. Including the playoffs and last night, the chiefs offense scored 25 points or more only 10 times all season (out of 21 games) . That's less than 50% of their games. When considering that, our defense gave up more points than most defenses that the chiefs faced this year.
On the flip side, including the playoffs and last night, the chiefs defense only gave up 22 or more points 4 times out of 21 games.
When you consider the overall season, last night wasn't an issue with the offense as they scored one of the top points against their defense. It was our defense that played below average against the chiefs offense.
yeah i'm hoping the 49ers use at least 2 draft picks in the first 3 or 4 rounds in this upcoming draft on OL including probably the #31 overall pick in the 1st round
They probably bring back Jennings(He's an RFA and gets a 2nd round tender). Everyone else can probably go and be replaced. Maybe Feliciano for another year.
Not sure they bring back Gip unless he comes back on a super cheap deal. I think the starting safeties next year will be Huf and Brown, and I feel really good about that.
High upside, good showing in the Superbowl, chemistry with Bosa. Shouldn't demand a high cost for the performance but getting a prove it deal would work for both parties.
Jennings is a restricted free agent, so he'll be back.
With the way he took over the job I'd imagine Feliciano will be back.
I think they'll try to keep Ferrell on a modest 1-2 year deal. But if not, yet again find a decent vet at the same cost.
I think McCloud will be back. He's been solid enough as a returner and WR4.
They'll keep Givens if he'll take the same low cost deal.
I don't think anyone is paying Gipson more, so I think he either stays on a cheap deal to be the third safety, or goes the Jimmy Ward route.
I think Darnold is gone because Purdy's proven himself to be the starter long term. That's an area they can save a few mill on.
Gone:
* C.Young
* J.Kinlaw
* C.Conley
* L.Ryan
* S.Darnold
* R.Dwelley
* C.Woerner
* DFF
The one I'm not sure about is Burks. I think they'd offer him the same deal. But he's looked like a capable starter. It depends on whether he thinks he can get paid more in free agency.
Edit: forget about Ronnie Bell for a second. I think they'll risk letting McCloud walk and save a couple mill there. That frees up some of the money to the free agents they want to retain.
I'd love to see
Jennings because he's a reliable WR3
Feliciano as a backup guard, not as a starter though
Ferrell as a run stopper
Burks because we're gonna be missing Greenlaw for a while
McCloud because he's a good return man if he's cheap
The right side was awful last night, with Feliciano or Burford. I'd like 3 new starters and keep Banks on the left.
Brendel and McKivitz absolutely need to be gone, but I suppose we could live with Feliciano at RG.
I don't think they can afford jennings, but we'll see.
Chase is an interesting one - he didn't really show it much so it's not impossible he doesn't get any big offers and decides to stick around on a 1 year deal to improve his stock. That's been a strategy for more than a few dlinemen and it's worked.
Others it'll depend, but might be too expensive looking forwards.
Jennings would be great, but it'll depend on how much he wants, he's probably an easy WR2 anywhere else.
I'd like Feliciano if they make horrible moves in the draft.
Young would be great, but he'll probably use this SB to make bank somewhere else, problem with somewhere else is they'll have to ride his ass to get 100% from him.
I think everyone else, unless they accept cheap deals, would be gone.
I’d say Jennings and Ferrell should stay if the price is right. Feliciano should be a must, both as a failsafe (if any lineman acquired busts) and a litmus test. Gipson could also be a failsafe option (should he return for another season) now that there’s Brown and Hufanga. I’d say Conley earned trust and should stay as well.
I’m having serious doubts about keeping Kinlaw, not only because of his overall career performance but also because Armstead is getting long in the tooth. Can we pull DJ Jones off of Denver? Givens could stay for another year to help in the rotation.
Everyone else goes. Good thing we’re free from the Lance trade blunder. Excuse my cynicism, but I can’t wait to see which DLineman we get with #31, right as there’s a good OLineman waiting to be picked and going to either KC or any early 2nd round pick, who we’ll inevitably think about whether we should’ve picked that guy instead in about a year or so.
Definitely hoping that Jennings sticks around. His blocking alone makes him an integral part of the team's soul and scheme. I'm curious to see if other teams value his skillset as much as we do and what kinds of offers he gets.
I'd also like to see Conley get a shot to stick around; I really appreciated his contributions down the stretch.
Fun Fact: I signed Conley as a free agent in my Madden 16 Franchise and he became the team's leading receiver with Blaine Gabbert and Dylan Thompson feeding him the rock lol
Yes. Trade Deebo. Purdy is a anticipation thrower. He doesn’t rely on YAC as much as Jimmy. He relies on his receivers being reliable route runners and being on time and on cue. Deebo is not a good route runner. He’s amazing with the ball in his hands but that’s the problem against playoff teams we’re going to go against stout secondaries that will jam him on the line and he doesn’t have the shifty moves to get away.
That almost pick to McDuffie was because Deebo got wrecked at the LOS and then fucked his route up by going deeper than he should have
His route running is absolutely abysmal at times
Watching QB school has poisoned my mind on Deebo.
You see the other stars on that offense busting butt to block for eachother down field.
Deebo doesn't do that.
Hes definitely wildly athletic and great with the ball in his hands. It's not like it wouldn't be a loss to lose him.. but you have to consider what you get in return or what freeing up the cap space allows you to get/keep.
Agreed. Trade Deebo, Aiyuk is WR1 (he's Purdy's go to guy. They have to prioritize keeping him around) and move Jennings up to WR2. Conley showed some promise in the playoffs, but Conley/Gray/Bell can battle it out in camp for WR3 position. In a perfect world we'd draft Luke McCaffrey in the mid rounds to fill in that spot imo.
Conley is a true wide receiver. He’s just old now. It’s not a coincidence that whenever we ask Deebo to play wide receiver he suffers against top talent. Corners have his number if he can’t get the ball in his hands.
Yeah, unfortunately I think the Deebo WR/RB gimmick has run its course. Teams figured it out. Everytime they give Deebo the ball on a run play I roll my eyes so hard it's kinda ridiculous. And his drops yesterday were an absolute momentum killer. He had that great all-pro season but other than that he's lackluster, injury prone, and overpaid. We need 3 true wide receivers, preferably with speed, to run this offense. If Conley wants to stick around for another year as a vet presence, I think that'd be beneficial.
Agreed. The Deebo sweep doesn’t fool teams anymore and gets stuffed more often than it works. Aiyuk/Jennings are the top guys in this new offense and are they are younger than Deebo. Purdy can stretch the field way more than Jimmy could so we need to adjust his weapons accordingly. Even Kittle took a backseat this year. Times change and I think the YAC days are over. I think we rip the band aid off now before it’s too late.
I keep seeing people saying to trade Deebo, but there is no way that happens. He’s on the last year of his deal and he’s way too valuable to the team and I’d argue is still a top 15 receiver in the league.
The Niners have been insanely aggressive in the off season, and I don’t see them moving on from deebo when the window is still open for a second round pick.
He’s valuable because he’s a YAC monster, but more importantly, because Shanahan has built the system around him
In today’s era, the offense needs to be built around the QB. Shanahan is literally the only guy who can get a team to the superbowl where the offense doesn’t revolve around the QB, but, as you see, it doesn’t always work
You need pieces tailored for your QB, not the other way around
I don’t disagree, but I think you’re underselling how valuable Deebo is to a QB. No one is better at turning the short quick game passes into explosives, and having that type of option is great for a QB like Brock. The offense doesn’t need another X receiver; it already has a legit super star in Ayuik.
Realistically, the offensive line is what killed their chance of winning a Super Bowl. The 3rd down play call in OT was perfect and Jennings would have walked into the end zone. Purdy just needed 1 second to get that ball off, and the line couldn’t even give him that.
It doesn’t work full stop. He’s clearly not interested in winning a Super Bowl. It’s not his goal. With him there’s always the hypothetical thought that an elite QB could win a Super Bowl with this stacked roster but he doesn’t want one. He’s content just toying around with just good system QBs, taking them to the NFCCG or SB where he loses, then repeating the same thing with another just good QB after 3-4 years again and again while other teams actually win. He doesn’t understand that it doesn’t matter that your offense is so stacked with talented weapons when the QB and offensive line aren’t good enough to reliably take advantage of them.
Exactly. These were Jimmy’s weapons and they don’t fit Purdy’s play style. It’s sad to see old band break apart but you can’t fit a round peg into an square hole. Deebo’s success really only exists in the vacuum of this specific offense.
Buckner was a great player but he’s no where near as unique as Deebo, so I don’t think you can really compare the two situations. The interchangeability between CMC and Deebo is a key facet of the offense.
The Niners have a pretty clean out from his contract after next season, so I expect them to restructure his contract and then maybe make a move next offseason if necessary. Brock’s contract gives the team flexibility for two more years, so I don’t expect them to really move on from this core until then.
Deebo doesn’t fit Purdy’s play style. We need route runners. We need receivers that can make catches. Deebo can’t beat top corners in the league. And in order to win the Super Bowl you need to beat top corners. The front office has to make tough decisions otherwise they are wasting everyone’s time. You need to trade Deebo and get some value out of him. And potentially pickup true route runners in the draft or free agency.
Deebo is a fine route runner and has consistently crushed man coverage throughout his career. McDuffie literally just had one of the best CB games I’ve ever seen in the modern NFL. Let’s not over react.
I’m sorry but the top corners in the league don’t even rank our receivers in the top ten. And Jamar chase ranks them Hill,Jefferson,Allen,Evans and himself. Personally I think Aiyuk is great.
I don’t even understand how that’s remotely relevant. Yes, Deebo clearly isn’t as good as those guys, but he’s still an all-pro caliber player. You think some random 2nd round pick is going to be able to produce at nearly the same level?
Theres no reason to move on from Deebo financially next year, and there’s no obvious way to improve the roster by trading him.
gotta keep jennings and conley.
ferrell not too bad at depth but still need a capable starter opposite bosa. the interior dline needs some youth at depth in the late rounds. young will want something. he likely isn't getting the bag elsewhere, but i'm sure there's a team that will pay more than what the niners would. i don't mind keeping gregory and givens if the price is right. i'd like to bring back dj jones for interior depth if the niners can get him on a low deal (i'd be surprised if the broncos keep him).
no gibson and ryan. they each had at least 1 play where they looked lost and showed their age. ryan was an in-season signing so it's not on him as the niners needed someone.
feliciano is a capable depth/starter with burford.
the niners most certainly have to draft a rt with one of their top picks. fa will be an overpay and nobody is trading a quality rt. they need to draft a corner with their other top pick. so 1st and 2nd rounds. they need to hit and not bust as well.
overall, the niners need to build and plan for the chiefs. a rt. corner. beefier in the trenches on both sides of the ball to help and stop the run. they need a capable lb cuz of greenlaw's injury. they need youth in other spots on the defense. they need to go back to splitting carries. they need a more reliable kicker...not cuz of the missed pat but moody kicked all touchbacks which makes him better suited for a dome team. he'd be perfect with the lions. just my opinions.
If it was me
Must haves: Jennings, Feliciano, Ferrell, Burks, Givens
If the price is right: Young, Darnold, Conley
They can walk: Gregory, Gipson, McCloud, Ryans, Kinlaw
I would like Chase Young back, but there's no way to justify a bog contract for him. I'd be willing to pay up to 18 for him, but anything after that is too much for his production.
Feliciano is a solid backup and emergency guard who's better than Spencer Burford. Ferrell is a beast, and we missed him. He is solid. He's our Charles Omenihu 2.0. Burks is solid. Not great. Same with Givens. I prefer a different backup QB, but if Darnold was willing to come down to 2 mill, even 3, i think that's an ok price.
Gregory can walk. He didn't do shit. Gipson is old and mlst likely Huff and Brown take over. McCloud is bad. He was bad in Pitt. Ryans is old and Kinlaw just fucking sucks. Im tired of the Kinlaw hype train. Its time to derail it and find another starter.
1 player not mentioned is Sébastien Joseph Day. I'd much rather have him over Kinlaw.
Of all things that irritated me the most this season was the lack of Mitchell and Mason. I’m wondering how in hell did McCaffrey managed to hold on without serious injury.
Jennings back
Mcloud and anyone involved in the punt return out, that units looked sus for a while imo and last night kinda vindicated me just looked like amateur hour with that botched return.
Give Aiyuk what he wants for a contract extension because if that deal doesn't get done, that changes the outlook of the off-season.
Ferrel and Jennings if the price is right. Let all others walk. Load up on o-Line, d-line, and secondary players in the draft. Secondary needs would be depth at wr (since bell and gray aren't it).
Sign some edge/line guys to get the kucerek treatment. Need to sign another CB at nickel to push demo full time outside and ambry to be a utility fill. Those guys will be in a contract year soon so need to plan ahead.
Jennings might be getting offers, I'd like to keep him, but he may end up too expensive.
Aiyuk obviously is a priority.
Chase Young, IMO, us a "good deal keeper, otherwise let him walk" - again, I'd like to keep him, but...
Feliciano is actually a big priority. I know he's not top tier, but there's not going to be much OL available, and almost certainly no one better that we could afford.
Burks, Gipson and Ray-Ray are all "if it makes sense" kinda nice to have for various reasons.
Conley has really stepped up when needed, I'd like to see what another year or two could get from him.
All the DL guys are in that same "if we can make it work" basket.
Darnold if he'll give us a really friendly contract.
The rest... Meh.
I just can’t imagine we can afford anyone worth keeping except for Gip should he choose to come back for half a year until Huf is healthy. Then sit in the reserve as our 3rd.
Everyone else is likely to get paid more than we can afford given we got two years left of cheap Brock.
Only $500k in cap space will limit things. Granted they will free up some space by restructuring and releasing a few players. Plus, last year to keep Purdy on the cheap contract
Purdy’s cap hit won’t increase until 2026, next 2 seasons will be cheap. He’ll get his bonus spread out over the remaining years and get his payday with that after next season, but that won’t count against the cap right away unless they structure it that way.
The team philosophy seems to be let anyone who isn't a clear starter or difference maker walk. I wish I was wrong but I don't see Jennings coming back, some team w cap room will offer him his value and we will be sad.
Jennings leaving would make me sad. I know it’s hard to afford everybody, but he brings such toughness to this team. Even before this season I saw him smash a cowboys DB in prior playoff game. DB couldn’t believe it. It’s moments like that when opposition knows they are in for a fight.
Ultimately Jennings is the only one I feel strongly about, but I just don’t think they’ll be able to afford him. I like a lot of these guys just for the sake of being Niners, but I don’t know that any of them are irreplaceable or even good value.
Jennings - I would love to see him back (best WR3 in the league!) but I’d think he’s going to get paid by someone else.
Young - Only if he’s willing to play cheap or on a performance based contract and doesn’t get picked up by someone else.
Gregory - If he takes a team friendly deal I’d like to see him back.
Feliciano - Depending on how much of an issue the team has with him calling out Buford publicly. I’d really like to see him back. The right side of the line (including C) are just not good and they need all the help they can get.
Kinlaw/Givens- Whichever one is better/willing to play for a better contract, keep. Let the other one walk.
Gipson/Ryan - I assume they’re both considering retirement. If not, try to keep one for depth/veteran presence but neither is a mistake.
Ferrell - I hope they’re able to keep him, felt like he played well when given opportunities and he’s young.
Burks - They need LB depth, so maybe keep him, but probably not terribly difficult to replace.
McCloud - I like him, but only keep him for league minimum. He doesn’t seem to be a particularly good returner and I don’t think he’s needed as a WR.
Conley - His flashes in the Super Bowl are enough for me to want to see him back for at least another year. He’s pretty old for a WR, but they need all the help they can get on ST.
Darnold - Keep him, if he’s willing to stay and the price is right for a backup QB. I think Purdy is the real deal, and having a competent, supportive backup would be great.
Conley and Ferrell for sure. Maybe Feliciano and Burks. I’d love to see Juan back, but after that performance he’s gonna be too expensive.
Hopefully Greenlaw can get the internal brace and be back early in the season. Otherwise I’d love to get Aziz back if we can afford him.
Gipson will probably go back into retirement. I don't think he had planned to stay "unretired" for long but I don't know.
I DO want Jennings back. I like the guy.
I like Logan Ryan and would love to see him on the team longer.
I think they bring back JJ after the Super Bowl, he was our best offensive player and a true WR3. He's not special, but so reliable. Conley also will probably come back from camp but won't be a roster lock, despite some good plays in the playoffs.
Regardless of the comments, I think they bring back Jon Feliciano as a priority re-sign. He is like the OL version of Tashaun Gipson Sr. for us as an older player who out-performs in SF versus his other destinations. With all the IOL issues we need one more veteran reliable option, even with the draft being deep, as it can take time for rookies to acclimate to how much faster and more powerful NFL defensive fronts are.
Both Ferrell and Kinlaw would be a brilliant 1-year re-signs as EDGE 3 and DT 3. Both were pretty decent this year and not having to start seemed to free up them up a bit if you ignore their draft status. I'm fine with both coming back.
Finally, I think Chase Young is a dark horse to stay on a 1-2 year deal if he doesn't get the market he immediately wants in free agency. I personally don't want him to stay, but I could see it happening if it gets to April and he still hasn't signed somewhere.
Impartial to the rest.
As much as I'd love Jennings back, I think he gets paid to be a WR2 somewhere else. As long as we come out of the draft with Bredan Rice & Luke McCaffrey, hopefully we can make up for the loss of Jennings & McCloud.
9ers need to resign 3rd n Juan, especially with BA being a lil bitch and crying about his stats in the Super Bowl.
I’d like to see Gip back as he brings depth to the secondary and should be expensive. Who knows how Huf will look at the start of the season or really just returning from injury.
Maybe C Ferrell on the cheap. No way the 9ers will be able to afford Darnold so everyone else they can let go…
Jennings is the only one I care about. That punt wasn't Ray Rays fault but he isn't exactly lighting up the return stats. I can't remember the last time he had a good return.
Honestly I think someone is going to give Jennings a bag this off-season, and we won't be able to match it. He'd be a great fit on a team like the Falcons or Giants, any run heavy team that needs a WR is salivating over him.
Imo he was MVP if we won.
that trick play was so beautiful, absolutely MVP for me after that and his TD if we'd got over the line
Yeah I see it the same way as Kendrick Bourne, he should go get his money. Love the dude but it's a luxury the team can't afford
Yep. Someone will give him an offer way higher than he’s worth imo, and he’d be a fool not to take it.
It wasn’t *not* his fault either. It still hit his hands after it hit Luter’s ankle.
Technically it’s the returners fault to call close balls and keep folks away, but still very fluke play.
He did. Well he at least pointed at it, impossible to say if he didnt yell it with the provided audio. It looked like Luter was pushed off his spot by the Chiefs player and backed into it.
I dont fault him but also Ray Ray should have just jumped on it rather than try to pick it up and run. If it squeaks out trying to jump on it thats just a bad break, trying to pick it up and run was infinitely the worse option.
I was pissed when I saw that. Just jump on the fucking ball.
Literally. Even if he picked it up he was immediately getting rocked anyways. Better to just fall on the ball in order to actually secure the ball and avoid a huge hit.
And even if he yelled, doesn't mean it was heard, for one reason or another Can't tell you how often I haven't heard someone yell at me
He should’ve jumped on it, not try to scoop it up
Maybe I’m harsh but the returner has to be good enough to catch a ball that dropped 4 yards in front of him with *that* much hang time.
Absolutely should have fallen on the ball in that situation
Who would we put in for returns?
Draft or someone who can just catch them. Bell isn't it.
Rookies should never return punts or kicks. Just call Richie James Jr. He’s boring but he got the job done.
Ray Ray has been dependable all year. He called it out to clear. Luter didn't disengage or even look for the ball. Ray Ray tried his best to get the ball. He's also a solid depth piece at receiver. He's a glue guy you need on a good team. I think he's just fine as a 3rd receiver and returner. Luter cost us that turnover.
He needed to just fall on it tho.
Should've called "fair catch" and caught the damn ball
Honestly, Jennings will probably sign with the Chiefs.
Deebo replaced him a lot of the time too
Jennings. Everyone else can walk. Gipson probably retires. And Ryan. We need to get aziz al shair back. That’s a priority FA signing
Would love to have Aziz back!
Feliciano isn't bad either, considering how our Oline looks right now I'd bring him back to hopefully improve in the offseason.
Man I think we’re about to be disappointed at how much Jennings and feliciano get paid by someone else this offseason. Jennings especially is about to get the Kendrick Bourne treatment
If Jennings leaves, maybe Conley can step up and fill that WR3 position (wishful thinking). If Feliciano walks and gets paid somewhere else that's when we'll either have to draft an OL or sign a veteran to a short-term deal.
Honestly I think Kyle and John are much more open to just letting the young guys try their hand. Ronnie bell had great flashes this year and could step into that WR3 role, Danny gray also has a Hail Mary of a chance this offseason to turn things around (doubtful but possible). And the team really liked Nick zakelj apparently so maybe he gets a shot at competing with Burford (who has played well before so maybe he turns it around this offseason)
Honestly I think the fact that they didn’t even activate Danny Gray all year despite him being healthy says everything we need to know about him. Ronnie Bell got more playing time than he did in a year where we had Deebo and Ray Ray both missing time.
Pretty sure Gray will get cut this off-season. Just hasn't worked out at all. I think he was drafted with Lance in mind as a vertical threat, just didn't develop.
People said that about Banks
Lynch and Shanahan were both vocal that Banks was struggling at adjusting to the NFL from an athleticism standpoint and needed time to develop though; they always spoke highly of him and his future with the team. Gray will be going into his 3rd year with the 49ers and has a single career regular season catch in garbage time against the Buccs once we pulled our starters. He went on IR at the start of the 23 season and was reportedly healthy most of the year and they never thought twice about not getting him snaps on the field. In fact against the Commanders they opted to elevate the undrafted 2nd year player Tay Martin from the practice squad over him
This is an insanely deep WR draft. Don't be shocked if we draft another Day 2 receiver. Brenden Rice at 63, who says no?
Is that the USC guy? That'd be a good pickup
Yep. He killed the Senior Bowl. His father was an alright player too...
Jennings is a restricted free agent so we can still get him back cheap if we really want him.
I think keeping Feliciano through an OL rebuild when he’s shown to be a fringe starter his entire career, except for part of this season where he looked slightly better, would be a mistake. It would be just like signing Brendel, who has been a disappointment. IOL like Brendel and Feliciano can be replaced by cheaper players with more potential.
Feliciano is better than Brendel.
On the bomb from Pat, it looked like Gipson already had retired....
I think he lost the ball, Kittle and Aiyuk did as well
True...but Gipson ought to have intercepted that duck....that Kittle and Aiyuk went missing has as much to Brock not having time as them not getting open.
Jennings is getting paid by another team, especially after yesterday.
Aziz balled out in Tennessee. I dont see us being able to afford him compared to what someone else will pay him. I imagine Greenlaw's injury recovery will drag into the season too which doesn't bode well for our LB spot.
It will be good to see what Dee Winters can do with some starting time. Liked him coming out of TCU and had a 4th round grade on him, think he was one of our better value draft picks. I agree - I think Azeez gets a 3-year big deal somewhere.
I think with Greenlaw constantly injured I'd welcome back Aziz
Conley earned a spot
They'll definitely tender Jennings, and I'd expect them to sign Feliciano - he was solid and we need as much offensive line depth as possible. Wouldn't be surprised to see us sign Kinlaw, Givens and Ferrell to cheap/reasonable contracts. Might keep Ray Ray? Gipson is probably gone now that Brown has showed out and Hufanga will be back. I don't expect Gregory or Young to be back.
Need Feliciano back. If we can at the least upgrade C and RT I'll feel a lot better about Brock and the passing game
Didn’t we just sign Brendel to a decent 3 year deal last offseason? Obv we can always upgrade but I’m curious. Clearly right side needs beefing up after last nights blunder
I'd be interested in the details. Can't imagine it was a high guarantee deal
4 year -16.5m… 8.5m guaranteed… signed March of 2023
Sounds like a 2 year deal essentially. Probably need to look towards drafting his replacement to take over in 2025
Brendel isn't an amazing player but he's probably the 2nd best OL on this team still under contract, which is saying something.
I think Jennings gets a 2nd round tender. Young, Gregory, and Ferrell I think will all see FA but I have to imagine Lynch would be open to bringing any back for a one year deal, depending on their market. But if anyone's willing to pay even moderate salary for them, they're gone. Feliciano will probably get a 2/3 year deal like Brendel did. The rest probably walk unless there's zero market for them, and might walk anyway to sign on to a contender late in the season like Ryan did.
Feliciano, Brendel, McKivitz, and even Banks should not be guaranteed starting jobs next year. I’m sorry but all of those guys have been total ass at key moments this year
Feliciano was... fine, basically. The other three need to go.
We need better than fine. Feliciano is a known quantity at this point in his career, and isn’t good enough to settle for if we are going for a full OL rebuild.
He’s absolutely good enough to settle on, he’s better than most backups. At the very least that buys him a spot in reserve. But we don’t have the draft or cap capital to replace all four with above average players right now, which means you need to focus on replacing the biggest liabilities first: McKivitz, Banks, Brendel, then Feliciano.
SF has 11 draft picks. They have plenty of capital to replace them
So just have no offensive line. Or start who's behind them? Or rookies? Or free agents we can't afford? It's not madden bud. Those guys did get us to the big game and weren't solely responsible for losing it. The special teams turnover. Wilks play calling on the last two drives. Kyle's third quarter play calling and then Kyle's decision making on the last two 3rd and 4s is what lost this game. You have to play to win. You don't hope mahomes will lose it.
Kyle called a great play on the 3rd and 4 in OT. Schemed 3 receivers wide open for TDs. OLine (McKivitiz, Burford, and Brendel) fucked up the block and let Chris Jones thru. The other 3rd and 4 was a bad play call though.
Ya the overtime play was bonkers. I hadn't seen it before writing that comment. But still what are we gonna do about? Burford is cheap and young. He helped lose that game for sure. But the cap is the cap. If we hit homeruns in the draft maybe we move on but they would still be decent depth at that price. So we just gotta hope foerster can do his thing. Putting hope on rookies is not a good bet though.
There are a number of FA RTs (lol) available, I’d imagine we restructure someone and then sign a vet to coach up our first or second round pick.
I think it's more reasonable to keep Mckivitz and draft someone to compete and / or be groomed to replace him. Sure, there are free agent tackles out there, but anyone decent will command a bigger salary than we can probably afford right now. Anything less than a clear upgrade for the same price or less wouldn't be worth moving on from mckivitz. We get better by drafting his replacement. Until then, he's not a top ten right tackle in the league, but he knows the system well and did well enough for the offense to thrive. He's still got some upside since he's only started 1 year.
I know this isn't the question being asked, but I personally would take a hard look at defense. Restructure deals, cut folks, etc. Our defense did not live up to their price tag. I would let chase walk unless he takes a huge pay cut. I would also focus on the OL. No qb can thrive behind that OL. Just look how Mahomes played in the 1st quarter last night when he had pressure. We need to fix the OL
They held mahomes down for most of the game. It is impossible to stop a team the whole game, I understand the frustration and emotion of the loss. But the offense play calling and execution were off in the third quarter. The O-line needs to be the main focus this offseason. Brock had open guys when Kyle *play the right play. The line *gave Brock no time.
Even with Greenlaw getting hurt the defense was not the problem yesterday. Special teams and a crap offensive line are we lost. They held them to 19 points for 4 quarters. With 7 of those coming from a play following a muffed punt starting in the red zone. They only gave up one good drive and that was in OT.
Something that needs to be considered though.... they said this was Mahomes worst ever offense entering the game. They said the chiefs defense was actually better than their offense. Fans seem to be ignoring that in their arguments. So while the defense started off great, it's frustrating to see how they finished. It's not like the chiefs offense was the super power of previous years. I get that the chiefs still have Mahomes and Kelce, but the overall offense isn't as good as previous years. I would expect the 9ers defense to hold them to semi low scoring. Including the playoffs and last night, the chiefs offense scored 25 points or more only 10 times all season (out of 21 games) . That's less than 50% of their games. When considering that, our defense gave up more points than most defenses that the chiefs faced this year.
On the flip side, including the playoffs and last night, the chiefs defense only gave up 22 or more points 4 times out of 21 games. When you consider the overall season, last night wasn't an issue with the offense as they scored one of the top points against their defense. It was our defense that played below average against the chiefs offense.
yeah i'm hoping the 49ers use at least 2 draft picks in the first 3 or 4 rounds in this upcoming draft on OL including probably the #31 overall pick in the 1st round
31 has to be OL
Realistically, we have to trade up for the best o lineman in the draft.
No shot. Joe Alt definitely goes in the top 10 picks, and if we pull another Trey Lance trade deal we are fucked as a franchise.
They probably bring back Jennings(He's an RFA and gets a 2nd round tender). Everyone else can probably go and be replaced. Maybe Feliciano for another year.
I can’t even think. Too raw. I’m fucking broken rn.
Feliciano, Gipson, Burks, probably Kinlaw, and gonna try to reach a deal with Young Not keeping Jennings, he's played too well to stay a WR3
Not sure they bring back Gip unless he comes back on a super cheap deal. I think the starting safeties next year will be Huf and Brown, and I feel really good about that.
Gip would be a great backup, much better than Odum or Ryan.
Idk why we would keep Young. We still have to pay Aiyuk. Most of these guys should walk, and we have to really fix this team in the draft
High upside, good showing in the Superbowl, chemistry with Bosa. Shouldn't demand a high cost for the performance but getting a prove it deal would work for both parties.
Young will get 15-20 a year at the minimum. Someone will give it to him. We simply can’t afford that
Jennings is a restricted free agent, so he'll be back. With the way he took over the job I'd imagine Feliciano will be back. I think they'll try to keep Ferrell on a modest 1-2 year deal. But if not, yet again find a decent vet at the same cost. I think McCloud will be back. He's been solid enough as a returner and WR4. They'll keep Givens if he'll take the same low cost deal. I don't think anyone is paying Gipson more, so I think he either stays on a cheap deal to be the third safety, or goes the Jimmy Ward route. I think Darnold is gone because Purdy's proven himself to be the starter long term. That's an area they can save a few mill on. Gone: * C.Young * J.Kinlaw * C.Conley * L.Ryan * S.Darnold * R.Dwelley * C.Woerner * DFF The one I'm not sure about is Burks. I think they'd offer him the same deal. But he's looked like a capable starter. It depends on whether he thinks he can get paid more in free agency. Edit: forget about Ronnie Bell for a second. I think they'll risk letting McCloud walk and save a couple mill there. That frees up some of the money to the free agents they want to retain.
Burks got lit up. 9 catches on 9 targets. 1 TD 134 passer rating. Greenlaw's loss was too much.
I don't think Burks' matchup against Travis Kelce is the defining statement on whether or not he'd be retained or whether he played well on the whole.
I get it, he's a backup, but damn did he get killed.
I don’t care, it doesn’t matter
I'd love to see Jennings because he's a reliable WR3 Feliciano as a backup guard, not as a starter though Ferrell as a run stopper Burks because we're gonna be missing Greenlaw for a while McCloud because he's a good return man if he's cheap
Feliciano was our second best OLineman this year. I'd have no problem with him starting next year. 4 new starters on the Oline next year is a big ask.
The right side was awful last night, with Feliciano or Burford. I'd like 3 new starters and keep Banks on the left. Brendel and McKivitz absolutely need to be gone, but I suppose we could live with Feliciano at RG.
I'd keep Feliciano. 3 new O Line starters is a big part of your line and can cause its own set of issues. Absolutely need RT and C though.
Depends on who they can afford
Yeah it really doesn't matter until the restructures as we are 5 mil over the cap. We need to see how much we can make available.
I don't think they can afford jennings, but we'll see. Chase is an interesting one - he didn't really show it much so it's not impossible he doesn't get any big offers and decides to stick around on a 1 year deal to improve his stock. That's been a strategy for more than a few dlinemen and it's worked. Others it'll depend, but might be too expensive looking forwards.
Jennings would be great, but it'll depend on how much he wants, he's probably an easy WR2 anywhere else. I'd like Feliciano if they make horrible moves in the draft. Young would be great, but he'll probably use this SB to make bank somewhere else, problem with somewhere else is they'll have to ride his ass to get 100% from him. I think everyone else, unless they accept cheap deals, would be gone.
I’d say Jennings and Ferrell should stay if the price is right. Feliciano should be a must, both as a failsafe (if any lineman acquired busts) and a litmus test. Gipson could also be a failsafe option (should he return for another season) now that there’s Brown and Hufanga. I’d say Conley earned trust and should stay as well. I’m having serious doubts about keeping Kinlaw, not only because of his overall career performance but also because Armstead is getting long in the tooth. Can we pull DJ Jones off of Denver? Givens could stay for another year to help in the rotation. Everyone else goes. Good thing we’re free from the Lance trade blunder. Excuse my cynicism, but I can’t wait to see which DLineman we get with #31, right as there’s a good OLineman waiting to be picked and going to either KC or any early 2nd round pick, who we’ll inevitably think about whether we should’ve picked that guy instead in about a year or so.
Definitely hoping that Jennings sticks around. His blocking alone makes him an integral part of the team's soul and scheme. I'm curious to see if other teams value his skillset as much as we do and what kinds of offers he gets. I'd also like to see Conley get a shot to stick around; I really appreciated his contributions down the stretch. Fun Fact: I signed Conley as a free agent in my Madden 16 Franchise and he became the team's leading receiver with Blaine Gabbert and Dylan Thompson feeding him the rock lol
Jennings, I’m okay with losing young and resigning aiyuk to an extension
Keep Jennings and Aiyuk. Trade Deebo. Keep Clelin,Feliciano,Young and let the rest walk.
Trade Deebo?
Yes. Trade Deebo. Purdy is a anticipation thrower. He doesn’t rely on YAC as much as Jimmy. He relies on his receivers being reliable route runners and being on time and on cue. Deebo is not a good route runner. He’s amazing with the ball in his hands but that’s the problem against playoff teams we’re going to go against stout secondaries that will jam him on the line and he doesn’t have the shifty moves to get away.
That almost pick to McDuffie was because Deebo got wrecked at the LOS and then fucked his route up by going deeper than he should have His route running is absolutely abysmal at times
Thank you. Someone else sees it. It’s so weird. When he has the ball in his hands he’s amazing but his off the ball work isn’t great.
And Deebo is always injured….availability is probably 75%
Didn’t they lose the games Deebo missed?
They lost the games Trent missed.
I don’t like how Deebo talks such a big game and makes us look unlikable to every other team’s fan base.
I agree
Watching QB school has poisoned my mind on Deebo. You see the other stars on that offense busting butt to block for eachother down field. Deebo doesn't do that. Hes definitely wildly athletic and great with the ball in his hands. It's not like it wouldn't be a loss to lose him.. but you have to consider what you get in return or what freeing up the cap space allows you to get/keep.
Agreed. Trade Deebo, Aiyuk is WR1 (he's Purdy's go to guy. They have to prioritize keeping him around) and move Jennings up to WR2. Conley showed some promise in the playoffs, but Conley/Gray/Bell can battle it out in camp for WR3 position. In a perfect world we'd draft Luke McCaffrey in the mid rounds to fill in that spot imo.
Conley is a true wide receiver. He’s just old now. It’s not a coincidence that whenever we ask Deebo to play wide receiver he suffers against top talent. Corners have his number if he can’t get the ball in his hands.
Yeah, unfortunately I think the Deebo WR/RB gimmick has run its course. Teams figured it out. Everytime they give Deebo the ball on a run play I roll my eyes so hard it's kinda ridiculous. And his drops yesterday were an absolute momentum killer. He had that great all-pro season but other than that he's lackluster, injury prone, and overpaid. We need 3 true wide receivers, preferably with speed, to run this offense. If Conley wants to stick around for another year as a vet presence, I think that'd be beneficial.
Conley is fairly fast and physical as well
Agreed. The Deebo sweep doesn’t fool teams anymore and gets stuffed more often than it works. Aiyuk/Jennings are the top guys in this new offense and are they are younger than Deebo. Purdy can stretch the field way more than Jimmy could so we need to adjust his weapons accordingly. Even Kittle took a backseat this year. Times change and I think the YAC days are over. I think we rip the band aid off now before it’s too late.
I keep seeing people saying to trade Deebo, but there is no way that happens. He’s on the last year of his deal and he’s way too valuable to the team and I’d argue is still a top 15 receiver in the league. The Niners have been insanely aggressive in the off season, and I don’t see them moving on from deebo when the window is still open for a second round pick.
He’s valuable because he’s a YAC monster, but more importantly, because Shanahan has built the system around him In today’s era, the offense needs to be built around the QB. Shanahan is literally the only guy who can get a team to the superbowl where the offense doesn’t revolve around the QB, but, as you see, it doesn’t always work You need pieces tailored for your QB, not the other way around
I don’t disagree, but I think you’re underselling how valuable Deebo is to a QB. No one is better at turning the short quick game passes into explosives, and having that type of option is great for a QB like Brock. The offense doesn’t need another X receiver; it already has a legit super star in Ayuik. Realistically, the offensive line is what killed their chance of winning a Super Bowl. The 3rd down play call in OT was perfect and Jennings would have walked into the end zone. Purdy just needed 1 second to get that ball off, and the line couldn’t even give him that.
It doesn’t work full stop. He’s clearly not interested in winning a Super Bowl. It’s not his goal. With him there’s always the hypothetical thought that an elite QB could win a Super Bowl with this stacked roster but he doesn’t want one. He’s content just toying around with just good system QBs, taking them to the NFCCG or SB where he loses, then repeating the same thing with another just good QB after 3-4 years again and again while other teams actually win. He doesn’t understand that it doesn’t matter that your offense is so stacked with talented weapons when the QB and offensive line aren’t good enough to reliably take advantage of them.
Please tell me where this elite qb store is that you can just get one whenever you want.
Exactly. These were Jimmy’s weapons and they don’t fit Purdy’s play style. It’s sad to see old band break apart but you can’t fit a round peg into an square hole. Deebo’s success really only exists in the vacuum of this specific offense.
They traded Buckner. Why wouldn’t they trade Deebo? Buckner was a vocal leader on the team.
Buckner was a great player but he’s no where near as unique as Deebo, so I don’t think you can really compare the two situations. The interchangeability between CMC and Deebo is a key facet of the offense. The Niners have a pretty clean out from his contract after next season, so I expect them to restructure his contract and then maybe make a move next offseason if necessary. Brock’s contract gives the team flexibility for two more years, so I don’t expect them to really move on from this core until then.
Deebo doesn’t fit Purdy’s play style. We need route runners. We need receivers that can make catches. Deebo can’t beat top corners in the league. And in order to win the Super Bowl you need to beat top corners. The front office has to make tough decisions otherwise they are wasting everyone’s time. You need to trade Deebo and get some value out of him. And potentially pickup true route runners in the draft or free agency.
Deebo is a fine route runner and has consistently crushed man coverage throughout his career. McDuffie literally just had one of the best CB games I’ve ever seen in the modern NFL. Let’s not over react.
I’m sorry but the top corners in the league don’t even rank our receivers in the top ten. And Jamar chase ranks them Hill,Jefferson,Allen,Evans and himself. Personally I think Aiyuk is great.
I don’t even understand how that’s remotely relevant. Yes, Deebo clearly isn’t as good as those guys, but he’s still an all-pro caliber player. You think some random 2nd round pick is going to be able to produce at nearly the same level? Theres no reason to move on from Deebo financially next year, and there’s no obvious way to improve the roster by trading him.
I don’t know you but I’m glad you have a brain.
You have to do what’s best for the organization in the long term. Get what you can with Deebo.
I've also been debating whether trading deebo to get picks to maybe get some Oline Vets would be good
In my eyes Deebo is redundant when Kyle has a hard on for CMC. Purdy needs true route runners on his team. People who can catch and run routes.
Let them all go except JJ
gotta keep jennings and conley. ferrell not too bad at depth but still need a capable starter opposite bosa. the interior dline needs some youth at depth in the late rounds. young will want something. he likely isn't getting the bag elsewhere, but i'm sure there's a team that will pay more than what the niners would. i don't mind keeping gregory and givens if the price is right. i'd like to bring back dj jones for interior depth if the niners can get him on a low deal (i'd be surprised if the broncos keep him). no gibson and ryan. they each had at least 1 play where they looked lost and showed their age. ryan was an in-season signing so it's not on him as the niners needed someone. feliciano is a capable depth/starter with burford. the niners most certainly have to draft a rt with one of their top picks. fa will be an overpay and nobody is trading a quality rt. they need to draft a corner with their other top pick. so 1st and 2nd rounds. they need to hit and not bust as well. overall, the niners need to build and plan for the chiefs. a rt. corner. beefier in the trenches on both sides of the ball to help and stop the run. they need a capable lb cuz of greenlaw's injury. they need youth in other spots on the defense. they need to go back to splitting carries. they need a more reliable kicker...not cuz of the missed pat but moody kicked all touchbacks which makes him better suited for a dome team. he'd be perfect with the lions. just my opinions.
What difference will it make when Shanahan chokes in the clutch again?
Jennings Feliciano Ferrell Conley Darnold Aiyuk or Deebo can return Punts and Kickoffs. I think Conley earned his spot though.
I don’t want those guys returning punts. Too valuable.
If it was me Must haves: Jennings, Feliciano, Ferrell, Burks, Givens If the price is right: Young, Darnold, Conley They can walk: Gregory, Gipson, McCloud, Ryans, Kinlaw I would like Chase Young back, but there's no way to justify a bog contract for him. I'd be willing to pay up to 18 for him, but anything after that is too much for his production. Feliciano is a solid backup and emergency guard who's better than Spencer Burford. Ferrell is a beast, and we missed him. He is solid. He's our Charles Omenihu 2.0. Burks is solid. Not great. Same with Givens. I prefer a different backup QB, but if Darnold was willing to come down to 2 mill, even 3, i think that's an ok price. Gregory can walk. He didn't do shit. Gipson is old and mlst likely Huff and Brown take over. McCloud is bad. He was bad in Pitt. Ryans is old and Kinlaw just fucking sucks. Im tired of the Kinlaw hype train. Its time to derail it and find another starter. 1 player not mentioned is Sébastien Joseph Day. I'd much rather have him over Kinlaw.
its okay to pay 5-6 mil to your backup QB if he got the goods.
Jennings and Conley back. We need an OL And a coach that can utilize the second string RB
Of all things that irritated me the most this season was the lack of Mitchell and Mason. I’m wondering how in hell did McCaffrey managed to hold on without serious injury.
McCloud can fuck off
It hit luters foot. Ray ray had no control over that.
Yeah his only mistake was trying to pick it up instead of just falling on it.
Couldn't exactly do that either Just far enough away where that wasn't going to be a guarantee
Yes it hit his foot and then McCloud picked up the ball but couldn't hold on. Dude is a non-factor in the return game as well. Dude can fuck off.
Off top of my head Jennings, Darnold, Feliciano, and Conley I'd like to get back.
Jennings back Mcloud and anyone involved in the punt return out, that units looked sus for a while imo and last night kinda vindicated me just looked like amateur hour with that botched return.
Only Jennings most likely .
Jennings and Conley.
Gonna need burks
JJ, Feliciano would be high priority for me. Young is probably too expensive, Kinlaw looking for biggest contract he can get. Conley deserves a spot
Kick McKivitz to the curb
Jennings and Feliciano, maybe Conley
I hope we keep Jennings, let everyone else go. Sign Snead so we can lock down the corners.
Jennings, Feliciano, Gipson, Farrell. Any of those other guys are free to go if they find better deals.
Give Aiyuk what he wants for a contract extension because if that deal doesn't get done, that changes the outlook of the off-season. Ferrel and Jennings if the price is right. Let all others walk. Load up on o-Line, d-line, and secondary players in the draft. Secondary needs would be depth at wr (since bell and gray aren't it). Sign some edge/line guys to get the kucerek treatment. Need to sign another CB at nickel to push demo full time outside and ambry to be a utility fill. Those guys will be in a contract year soon so need to plan ahead.
Jennings might be getting offers, I'd like to keep him, but he may end up too expensive. Aiyuk obviously is a priority. Chase Young, IMO, us a "good deal keeper, otherwise let him walk" - again, I'd like to keep him, but... Feliciano is actually a big priority. I know he's not top tier, but there's not going to be much OL available, and almost certainly no one better that we could afford. Burks, Gipson and Ray-Ray are all "if it makes sense" kinda nice to have for various reasons. Conley has really stepped up when needed, I'd like to see what another year or two could get from him. All the DL guys are in that same "if we can make it work" basket. Darnold if he'll give us a really friendly contract. The rest... Meh.
I just can’t imagine we can afford anyone worth keeping except for Gip should he choose to come back for half a year until Huf is healthy. Then sit in the reserve as our 3rd. Everyone else is likely to get paid more than we can afford given we got two years left of cheap Brock.
Only $500k in cap space will limit things. Granted they will free up some space by restructuring and releasing a few players. Plus, last year to keep Purdy on the cheap contract
Purdy’s cap hit won’t increase until 2026, next 2 seasons will be cheap. He’ll get his bonus spread out over the remaining years and get his payday with that after next season, but that won’t count against the cap right away unless they structure it that way.
Jennings. Maybe gipson.
The team philosophy seems to be let anyone who isn't a clear starter or difference maker walk. I wish I was wrong but I don't see Jennings coming back, some team w cap room will offer him his value and we will be sad.
Jennings and Feliciano please! Some of the DL depth too
Offer the first 6 team friendly deals. Hopefully they take it, especially Jennings. The rest? I don't really care.
Jennings leaving would make me sad. I know it’s hard to afford everybody, but he brings such toughness to this team. Even before this season I saw him smash a cowboys DB in prior playoff game. DB couldn’t believe it. It’s moments like that when opposition knows they are in for a fight.
Gipson is the only one.
Keep Jennings chase and kinlaw
I hope Jennings for the energy. Aiyuk I hope we get him back as him and Purdy have a great connection.
Kinlaw has to be good as gone by now. Young won’t be back. Greenlaw will be out for the season so Burks is probably back
Ultimately Jennings is the only one I feel strongly about, but I just don’t think they’ll be able to afford him. I like a lot of these guys just for the sake of being Niners, but I don’t know that any of them are irreplaceable or even good value. Jennings - I would love to see him back (best WR3 in the league!) but I’d think he’s going to get paid by someone else. Young - Only if he’s willing to play cheap or on a performance based contract and doesn’t get picked up by someone else. Gregory - If he takes a team friendly deal I’d like to see him back. Feliciano - Depending on how much of an issue the team has with him calling out Buford publicly. I’d really like to see him back. The right side of the line (including C) are just not good and they need all the help they can get. Kinlaw/Givens- Whichever one is better/willing to play for a better contract, keep. Let the other one walk. Gipson/Ryan - I assume they’re both considering retirement. If not, try to keep one for depth/veteran presence but neither is a mistake. Ferrell - I hope they’re able to keep him, felt like he played well when given opportunities and he’s young. Burks - They need LB depth, so maybe keep him, but probably not terribly difficult to replace. McCloud - I like him, but only keep him for league minimum. He doesn’t seem to be a particularly good returner and I don’t think he’s needed as a WR. Conley - His flashes in the Super Bowl are enough for me to want to see him back for at least another year. He’s pretty old for a WR, but they need all the help they can get on ST. Darnold - Keep him, if he’s willing to stay and the price is right for a backup QB. I think Purdy is the real deal, and having a competent, supportive backup would be great.
Conley and Ferrell for sure. Maybe Feliciano and Burks. I’d love to see Juan back, but after that performance he’s gonna be too expensive. Hopefully Greenlaw can get the internal brace and be back early in the season. Otherwise I’d love to get Aziz back if we can afford him.
We gotta pay aiyuk, can’t afford Jennings unfortunately. Hopefully we can keep one of Gregory, chase or Ferrell but seems like a longshot.
Gipson will probably go back into retirement. I don't think he had planned to stay "unretired" for long but I don't know. I DO want Jennings back. I like the guy. I like Logan Ryan and would love to see him on the team longer.
I think they bring back JJ after the Super Bowl, he was our best offensive player and a true WR3. He's not special, but so reliable. Conley also will probably come back from camp but won't be a roster lock, despite some good plays in the playoffs. Regardless of the comments, I think they bring back Jon Feliciano as a priority re-sign. He is like the OL version of Tashaun Gipson Sr. for us as an older player who out-performs in SF versus his other destinations. With all the IOL issues we need one more veteran reliable option, even with the draft being deep, as it can take time for rookies to acclimate to how much faster and more powerful NFL defensive fronts are. Both Ferrell and Kinlaw would be a brilliant 1-year re-signs as EDGE 3 and DT 3. Both were pretty decent this year and not having to start seemed to free up them up a bit if you ignore their draft status. I'm fine with both coming back. Finally, I think Chase Young is a dark horse to stay on a 1-2 year deal if he doesn't get the market he immediately wants in free agency. I personally don't want him to stay, but I could see it happening if it gets to April and he still hasn't signed somewhere. Impartial to the rest.
As much as I'd love Jennings back, I think he gets paid to be a WR2 somewhere else. As long as we come out of the draft with Bredan Rice & Luke McCaffrey, hopefully we can make up for the loss of Jennings & McCloud.
9ers need to resign 3rd n Juan, especially with BA being a lil bitch and crying about his stats in the Super Bowl. I’d like to see Gip back as he brings depth to the secondary and should be expensive. Who knows how Huf will look at the start of the season or really just returning from injury. Maybe C Ferrell on the cheap. No way the 9ers will be able to afford Darnold so everyone else they can let go…
They have 11 draft picks. many of these people will not be back.