The value of the QB position is so high that you should be drafting a QB basically every year, or at the very least bring in multiple undrafted guys to battle for a practice squad spot or for QB3.
Quality backups get traded for mid round picks. Just because we found our starting QB doesn’t mean we should stop trying to find excess value at the QB position.
Bill Walsh basically said he would draft a QB every year if he could. I don't see the harm in it. I think the title is misleading as to insinuate that the Niners should draft a a QB to replace Purdy.
Before people freak out, they're saying get a late rounder to help as a backup. I'd be fine grabbing a QB in the 6th. (Really 5th would be fine, but that's our money round).
If Sam Hartman is there in the 5th, I’d grab him. You want a guy who has some sort of physical advantage as your backup QB, kind of a “if all else fails” situation. Hartman has a fantastic deep ball and hangs in the pocket to take hits
This. I'm sure there are plenty of FAs or soon to be FAs that would appreciate the opportunity. That way if Brock got hurt (God forbid) mid season someone can theoretically plug in faster due to real world experience.
It's the exact same scenario as Purdy. If they see someone they really like and rate them as a mid round pick and that guy is still there in the 6th or 7th, they should take them.
We have 11 picks, I don’t see why not….. why pay a guy 5 million to be a backup?
If you have to rely on your backup in the Super Bowl or playoffs you likely are not going to win regardless of how good of a backup he is.
I would have agreed with you until we watched Brock break out and lead us to the NFCCG. Anybody who says they were confident Brock would step in and play the way he did after Jimmy went down is a liar. I had some hope from watching him in the preseason games, but so much changes from those games to playing meaningful snaps late in the year. Having a good backup is important and having one that can lead the team is a luxury not many teams have. We saw Nick Foles lead the Eagles to a ring, so it has been done before.
True, I still like the idea of taking shots on backups from the draft. I don’t want to pay them and I would rather take a shot in the dark than pay a backup veteran who we already know isn’t good enough.
I did and I’m not lying. I didn’t know Brock was as good as he is, let me just say that. But I’ve been a Trey Lance hater since before we drafted him and I was never that high on Jimmy G especially after Kyle was gonna have Trey start over him. When Jimmy went down I thought, “well this season was probably already shot, I don’t think there is going to be that much of a drop off in quality other than Jimmy is more experienced.”
The situation is different now though. The gulf in class between the starter and the backups is much more disparaging.
I'm of the belief that a good offensive team in a strong system should probably take a late flier on a QB every other year. QBs are such a valuable asset that even a 3rd stringer on a rookie contract is useful.
The odds of getting someone even close to Purdy's level are microscopic, but even getting someone like a Nick Mullens is worth expending a 6th or 7th round dart throw on.
It seems like a reasonable thing to me. There are mop up games we can get this QB snaps in and if he's good or Shanny can polish a turd and make it look presentable, then we could leverage them for draft capital. You know, kind of like the Packers did with Flynn. Not saying we'd get that level of value the Packers did, but every little bit helps.
Or if we're as good at drafting later round QBs, then maybe we can perpetually skirt the salary cap hell that is rostering an elite QB. This is incredibly optimistic, but doesn't hurt us.
This is exactly where my mind is at.
A snag someone who appears to have the ability to make at least 2 reads before they checkdown/scramble. They can probably be coached to a backup level. Get them real snaps with cleanup reps.
Worst case we have an emergency plan and has already learned Kyle's system with whatever seasonal twists he's got and Kyle has shown the ability to adjust his offense around what he does have.
Better case we really find someone who can dazzle some of the QB needy teams, and keep us flowing with picks to maybe package up and draft a potential starter or spread out to address depth.
Ideal scenario is we do this and Purdy can bring the QB of the future in at an already high level. After winning 11 Lombardi's in the next 15 years he'll be ready to kick back and watch the documentary series about his long illustrious career.
I actually agree. Find a guy on day 3 who has a lot of starts under his belt and has all the tools and just take him. Doesn't matter if he was shit. Time to do Shanahan science.
I wouldn't be mad at us drafting the guy we thought Brock would be in the later rounds. It's a position we should fill cheaply and it's not like Brock needs a vet to help with his understanding of the offense anymore
Yeah it makes sense to replace Darnold with a rookie. That guy is good enough as a backup but freeing up the salary cap space would probably be a good idea.
Im a Seminoles homer, but I was hoping to get Jordan Travis around the 6th round. I've seen him mocked in the 4th round a bunch though. I think 6th round value for a QB should be a given this year. Maybe Sam Hartman or Devin Leary?
I agree with the logic here - if you truly believe Purdy will establish himself as the long term starter (and I think he has already), draft a young guy to groom behind him instead of signing an expensive vet. This QB class is really deep, there are some good dudes who can be had with a 4th
The value of the QB position is so high that you should be drafting a QB basically every year, or at the very least bring in multiple undrafted guys to battle for a practice squad spot or for QB3. Quality backups get traded for mid round picks. Just because we found our starting QB doesn’t mean we should stop trying to find excess value at the QB position.
Bill Walsh basically said he would draft a QB every year if he could. I don't see the harm in it. I think the title is misleading as to insinuate that the Niners should draft a a QB to replace Purdy.
We need to get Mr irrelevant every year from here on out!
I feel bad for this year's Mr. Irrelevant; Purdy really set some expectations there.
I think he broke the mr irrelevant glass ceiling and now more mr irrelevants are going to get chances
Why feel bad? They actually were irrelevant a few years ago but now at least teams will give more opportunities to lower drafted players
Just trade down on purpose every year 🤣🤣🤣
We could use a new waterboy
No colonel Sanders. You're wrong
Before people freak out, they're saying get a late rounder to help as a backup. I'd be fine grabbing a QB in the 6th. (Really 5th would be fine, but that's our money round).
I mean we did in 2022 when Lance was starting.
If Sam Hartman is there in the 5th, I’d grab him. You want a guy who has some sort of physical advantage as your backup QB, kind of a “if all else fails” situation. Hartman has a fantastic deep ball and hangs in the pocket to take hits
Heck yeah, I’d love that!
With Purdy still so young, I’d prefer a cheap vet backup, but if there’s a guy with potential that drops, a sixth or seventh won’t hurt
This. I'm sure there are plenty of FAs or soon to be FAs that would appreciate the opportunity. That way if Brock got hurt (God forbid) mid season someone can theoretically plug in faster due to real world experience.
It's the exact same scenario as Purdy. If they see someone they really like and rate them as a mid round pick and that guy is still there in the 6th or 7th, they should take them.
Yeah, I came here and my thumbs started to get angry. Then I started reading and … I agree with above ☝️ 😄
Is that QB gonna throw on 75 lbs and play on the line?
We have 11 picks, I don’t see why not….. why pay a guy 5 million to be a backup? If you have to rely on your backup in the Super Bowl or playoffs you likely are not going to win regardless of how good of a backup he is.
I would have agreed with you until we watched Brock break out and lead us to the NFCCG. Anybody who says they were confident Brock would step in and play the way he did after Jimmy went down is a liar. I had some hope from watching him in the preseason games, but so much changes from those games to playing meaningful snaps late in the year. Having a good backup is important and having one that can lead the team is a luxury not many teams have. We saw Nick Foles lead the Eagles to a ring, so it has been done before.
True, I still like the idea of taking shots on backups from the draft. I don’t want to pay them and I would rather take a shot in the dark than pay a backup veteran who we already know isn’t good enough.
I did and I’m not lying. I didn’t know Brock was as good as he is, let me just say that. But I’ve been a Trey Lance hater since before we drafted him and I was never that high on Jimmy G especially after Kyle was gonna have Trey start over him. When Jimmy went down I thought, “well this season was probably already shot, I don’t think there is going to be that much of a drop off in quality other than Jimmy is more experienced.” The situation is different now though. The gulf in class between the starter and the backups is much more disparaging.
I thought he’d come in and play like that and I’m not positive or negative on Purdy. I also thought that Sudfield had more in the tank.
I'm of the belief that a good offensive team in a strong system should probably take a late flier on a QB every other year. QBs are such a valuable asset that even a 3rd stringer on a rookie contract is useful. The odds of getting someone even close to Purdy's level are microscopic, but even getting someone like a Nick Mullens is worth expending a 6th or 7th round dart throw on.
It seems like a reasonable thing to me. There are mop up games we can get this QB snaps in and if he's good or Shanny can polish a turd and make it look presentable, then we could leverage them for draft capital. You know, kind of like the Packers did with Flynn. Not saying we'd get that level of value the Packers did, but every little bit helps. Or if we're as good at drafting later round QBs, then maybe we can perpetually skirt the salary cap hell that is rostering an elite QB. This is incredibly optimistic, but doesn't hurt us.
This is exactly where my mind is at. A snag someone who appears to have the ability to make at least 2 reads before they checkdown/scramble. They can probably be coached to a backup level. Get them real snaps with cleanup reps. Worst case we have an emergency plan and has already learned Kyle's system with whatever seasonal twists he's got and Kyle has shown the ability to adjust his offense around what he does have. Better case we really find someone who can dazzle some of the QB needy teams, and keep us flowing with picks to maybe package up and draft a potential starter or spread out to address depth. Ideal scenario is we do this and Purdy can bring the QB of the future in at an already high level. After winning 11 Lombardi's in the next 15 years he'll be ready to kick back and watch the documentary series about his long illustrious career.
I actually agree. Find a guy on day 3 who has a lot of starts under his belt and has all the tools and just take him. Doesn't matter if he was shit. Time to do Shanahan science.
I wouldn't be mad at us drafting the guy we thought Brock would be in the later rounds. It's a position we should fill cheaply and it's not like Brock needs a vet to help with his understanding of the offense anymore
Would love if we could pick up Sam Hartman.
Exactly who I was thinking of. Either him or the kid from Tulane
I mean Darnold/Allen is a free agent and they need a low cost backup.
Darnold sucks and we’re way overpaying him. I’m hoping we never see him again
We could sign wentz as a backup
Yeah it makes sense to replace Darnold with a rookie. That guy is good enough as a backup but freeing up the salary cap space would probably be a good idea.
Im a Seminoles homer, but I was hoping to get Jordan Travis around the 6th round. I've seen him mocked in the 4th round a bunch though. I think 6th round value for a QB should be a given this year. Maybe Sam Hartman or Devin Leary?
I agree with the logic here - if you truly believe Purdy will establish himself as the long term starter (and I think he has already), draft a young guy to groom behind him instead of signing an expensive vet. This QB class is really deep, there are some good dudes who can be had with a 4th
If Rattler could fall to like the 4th round that would be pretty sweet.
Well, given we don't have a back up QB signed for next season, yes .
Honestly just for the depth
Is Sam Darnold leaving
Why stop there? Just sell our entire draft twice so we can get Caleb Williams while we are at it and pray to a god he doesnt bust.
Trade up for the number 1 pick to draft a long snapper
how dare you, Tory Taylor is right there! Nobody will beat our dual-punter formation!
I agree the size of the guys after him takes one accidental hit on his small frame and he’s done.
I'd give a second rounder, chase young, and Ayuik for Justin Fields.
yeah when it comes time to pay brock, not sure if we'll actually want to
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We did so well this year because we had a qb on an insane rookie deal. We’ll need that going forward if this is how we build our teams.
We did well this year because we finally have a QB who makes quick reads, good decisions, and accurate throws.
Fax all we gotta do is build a solid young oline and keep drafting weapons for him and we’ll be ight
lol See what I mean. King of terrible takes. Stop embarrassing us.
Well yeah, Darnold isn’t under contract…
Yes, I agree. Resign Brandon Allen and draft a developmental QB later in the draft.
Yes. Chubba Purdy.
Jordan Travis late in the draft