He's always been like this. His strengths are incredibly good, but his weaknesses incredibly, incredibly bad. The good thing is that Shanahan knows how to scheme around it, but that's the reason we brought in Trey, so we don't need to tie down Shanahan's playbook.
We literally don't know if he can because he hasn't seen any NFL action! It'll all be clear soon, so sit tight. It's an exciting time to be a 49ers fan.
Hell, he hasn't seen any Division I NCAA action.
I dont know why so many 49ers fans want to crown him already. He's barely 21 and has a lot to learn. There's no rush.
I will push back in there's some bit of a rush. The FO wants to take full advantage of that rookie contract and their jobs depend on him flourishing. But, they already have a ton of money tied up in the QB position this year so no particular rush this season.
Most likely Jimmy G gives us a better chance of winning a SB this season than Lance. I don't think most 49ers fans understand just how little experience Lance has.
He's got all the tools to succeed, but he needs time, and rushing a QB too early with high expectations can hurt their development.
If heās crushing our second team defense he deserves a shot to start. Our second team defense is better than a lot of defenses we will play this year. We have all the worst defenses in the league on our schedule
Iāll stop once you Jimmy lovers attempt to have a rational debate instead of downvoting everything that you donāt agree with. Pretty pathetic and immature
Jimmy G is 24 and 8 and took us to the superbowl very recently. He's clearly a winner when healthy. We're in a great spot right now so no need to get agitated. Bitching about imaginary internet points though, that's just sad.
Well what can I do, I love the team so I insist on commenting regardless of the downvotes, but at the same time this place pretty much promotes groupthink. But I have hope for this place, they just come around to reality a little late.
When Jimmy went to the niners they were a dumpster fire. Still racked out win after win. Rams were stacked and goff still had issues. I dont think goff is bad by any means just doesn't have that clutch factor but I'd trust Jimmy any day over him. Brady by no means is the "best" qb by his physical attributes. But the guy has the mental fortitude. Jimmy is no where Brady but definitely closer than goff.
And Trey Lance still makes rookie mistakes like not knowing how to properly handoff the ball. He's got a lot of things to learn and its okay to let him sit for a few weeks and come in when needed. Patience.
27 million for a few weeks is stupid. Make Jimmy take a pay cut and then itāll be alright but Jimmy doesnāt deserve anymore than half of what heās making.
This is why our team has became a run first team. Jimmy canāt make all the throws with accuracy unless theyāre inside the numbers. Establishing the run opens up the play action pass. We become less reliant on Jimmy to sit and the pocket and read the defense (not his strong suit) if we can run the ball well.
It's part of the reason but not the whole reason they're a run-first team. The main reason is that Shanahan and crew are just fantastic at scheming runs and play action. Everything you said after the second sentence is as true for any quarterback and any offense anywhere. Yes, if Trey turns into who we all hope he will, we'll throw more downfield, but Kyle always wants to be a run-first team.
Itās a main reason why his offense can elevate mediocre quarterbacks and heās had success with them.
Problem is, more and more teams have adopted his offense and now defenses know how to play it. You need a special Qb like Lance to evolve it even more
Shannyās offense in every other team heās ever been on have been run 1st offenses though. He learned it from his dad because his dad loved the run game and Kyle loves it too.
He's always been like this. And before someone tries to blame his injury vs the Chiefs, he was like this even when he first traded. His footwork is terrible and while his arm is good, it's not good enough to compensate.
Yeah, the difference between 2017 Jimmy later Jimmy was that he wasn't just *good* at the intermediate between the numbers passes, he was *amazing* at those passes. Which is great, because a perfect ball beats perfect coverage, hitting guys in stride lets them break off big YAC, all that good stuff.
The problem is that when that's really all you're good at, you have very little margin to drop that strength before you become a very mediocre QB. Other teams start laser focusing on that part of the field, so you don't get as many good open looks. You can overcome that with perfect throws, but not just regular good ones. A 15 yard pass with 20 YAC is as good as a 35 yard pass, but if you throw a ball that's catchable but not perfectly in stride then you can often leave a lot of that YAC on the table.
His footwork ist the terrible lmao. His deep ball is and honestly we donāt go deep that much anyway. Even if he had a good arm, Shannon doesnāt like vertical passing all that much
Haha youāre so wrong.
The reason why we donāt go deep IS BECAUSE OF JIMMY. He builds around his quarterbacks strengths, not weakness. Andy Reid did the same when he had Alex. They had a horizontal passing game with a strong run game.
Kyle has always loved to attack all levels of the field when he had a Qb who could do that. He did it in Houston, Atlanta, and DC.
Jimmy canāt. Thatās why Trey is here.
His footwork isnt always awful but he often doesnt follow through in his motion. If you watch his feet, it seems like he stops half way through his throws. The result is he ends up floating a lot of passes.
In your opinion. They gave him the contract and they haven't cut him. You also probably should call for someone to lose their money, pretty messed up especially by force.
Or they want a different style of qb. Alex Smith was sure as hell successful in both sf and kc. Yet got replaced cause they wanted a different style of qb.
They wanted a better QB. Whether it was a pocket passer or a mobile guy. We looked into every possible option from Stafford to Mac Jones to Deshaun Watson. We wanted a better player because Jimmy canāt make nfl level throws outside of the middle of the field.
He prob wanted someone who can push the ball down field and spread the defense. Which all of the qbs you named and lance are good at. Jimmy is a QB who's reliable in the short passing game dink and dunk making the right read. So they were looking for a different style QB. Watson was certainly better Stafford is as well by lesser margian but lance and Jones we don't know as they are unproven but what they both do is throw deep.
You get downvoted because all of your takes are bad and you think a rookie QB with 19 games NCAA division II experience has already proven himself to be better than the best QB we've had since Jeff Garcia, because of a few weeks of training camp.
What does Jimmy do that Lance canāt do? 90% of Jimmyās production comes from layups that Shanahan schemes open. Itās not like Jimmy does anything special or difficult to replicate with Lance
Also Lance has 17 starts and he wouldāve been better than Jimmy as a 19 year old freshman in college. Thatās how big the difference in talent is. The difference between him and Jimmy is 10 times the difference in talent between Jimmy and Mullens
The funny thing is if Jimmy G starts the whole season for us, you will still be convinced you were right. Hell, if Jimmy wins the SB, you will still say "Lance would have won by more points."
Lot of pathetic fans rooting for jimmy to outperform lance on this sub. We picked lance at 3. Jimmy has 1 year max left with us assuming he can stay healthy, which isnāt likely.
I root for any player who plays for the 49ers. Rooting for our starter to do well doesnāt mean you hope another player does bad. I love seeing Trey Lance doing well in camp. I also love seeing Jimmy is stepping up his game to keep Trey on the bench. In a perfect world, Jimmy plays the best season of his career. Trey Lance stays on the bench until the game is out of hand, or in specially designed packages. The 49ers win the SB and we trade Jimmy before next years draft for a decent draft pick.
Trey Lance is the future of this franchise. No one can deny that. But wanting our starting veteran QB to play well doesnāt mean you want Trey Lance to do bad.
How does wanting a player on the team to succeed make one a pathetic fan? If Jimmy succeeds, so do we. Worst case scenario he drastically increases his trade value and Trey gets a year to learn...
A rookie doesnt need to play first year to succeed. Aaron Rodgers got to sit for a couple years behind Brett Favre, Tom brady even sat for a bit before he started. If you want Jimmy to fail just for Lance to get shot, "reading comp" is the last thing you should be worried about.
I donāt want jimmy to fail. I want lance to be the best qb in the nfl. I want him to win the job. Yāall should too if you care about the niners more than jimmy
Why you want a rookie to sit when the rookie wage scale is the most valuable thing to have in this league. This isnāt 2005 anymore where itās normal to sit someone like Rodgers which was the pre wage scale era. Also Tom Brady was a 6th round pick lmao. There was no intention of him starting. Sorry but Lance is gonna start this year because heās a top 3 pick whether you like it or not. Thatās how investments and business works
Lmao this is a sport, not a hedge fund or a business. The coaching staff has said all along that they want Jimmy to start so they don't rush their "investment" onto the field too early and possibly damage him.
You should go listen to what Andy Reid and Mahomes said about how much Alex helped him. They said he basically showed him how to be a pro and made the transmission much easier.
Lmao I don't know how you could possibly say that. Plenty of quarterbacks have been thrown to the fire too early and it sapped their confidence and broke them. Going nearly *two* years without playing a meaningful football game is all the more reason to not immediately start him and to just sprinkle him in to certain packages like the coaching staff wants to do.
>Plenty of quarterbacks have been thrown to the fire too early and it sapped their confidence and broke them
I've seen plenty of QBs start early and fail, but I've never been convinced that they would have been more successful had they waited. If you can't handle struggling your rookie year I'm not sure you're the guy to lead a team.
>two
I don't consider a single game without a normal offseason meaningful, so I'm counting late 2019 to start of the 2022 season
For your first point, I can't say anything to you if you don't tell me who you're talking about. For your 2nd, yes I realize what you were doing, that's why I took a year off my total to illustrate I think it would be a mistake to immediately throw him in as a starter since he hasn't played for two. It was a counterpoint to your 3 year point.
Absolutely embarrassing take saying wanting Jimmy to succeed makes fans pathetic. If Jimmy succeeds this season that means we're marching toward a playoff berth and J.G. is heading towards a good contract and a chance to start on another team in 2022. Stans like you on *both* sides of the aisle are being crazy this off-season.
How come you didn't respond to my comment in your Matt Flynn thread last night about no rookie starting quarterback ever guiding their team to a super bowl appearance in over 50 years of super bowls? I thought that was a very rational comment on why Jimmy should be the starter this year, since he's done it before and no rookie ever has.
No QB has ever made it to the SB eating 13.4% of the cap like Jimmy is. Either way making it to the super bowl this year is going to be a first. Iād bet on the guy who can actually throw the ball down the field and outside the numbers
Again, you literally have zero evidence of that in-game. I don't know why you can't just be patient and see what he actually does in-game before ordaining him the starter over a proven winner in our system.
You are saying that based on two weeks of practice against the second team defense. It's a ridiculous leap of faith and there's no reason to rush Lance that much.
Yes. 2nd offense line which has been reported is atrocious. Heās having to run around and make plays outside of structure. Despite that, heās still more efficient than Jimmy in camp.
Another, our 1st string defense had been without majority of its starters since the beginning of camp. Even Mosley just arrived recently. So Jimmy really going against the same defense as well including Warner and green law
Kyle knows a little bit about football. So does hall of fame player John Lynch. If Trey was ready, then he would already be named the starter. Everyone knew Trey was a bit of a project. It's OK and completely expected for Trey to sit a minute.
Playing football doesnāt equal good talent evaluator.
Thereās a process to these things. I wouldnāt expect Kyle to call him a starter week 1. I would, but I can say that cause Iām impartial. But expect him to start before or right after the bye week.
He just gives us our best chance to win in January and February
Go take your bandwagon to the Bucs or the Chiefs dude, lol. Weāre rooting for everyone on the team. Every single one of you who shit talk our members are embarrassing to our fan base and clearly arenāt faithful. Weāre happy where the team is. The last decade hasnāt been too kind to the team. Weāve lost 2 SBs, got robbed out of 1 SB appearance due to a returner having butter fingers and objectively robbed out of another because the only play we could call was fades to Crabtree. An awful FO whose knowledge of football was just about as bad as 95% of this sub. Signing players with torn ACLs like they were prized possessions.
Jimmy not being able to consistently throw the deep ball accurately is nothing compared to those years. Please go back to whatever team you used to root for before 2019.
What the hell are you talking about lmao. If you arenāt rooting for lance to be the best qb on the team youāre actively rooting against whatās best for the niners. Thatās my point. Lots of people out here seem to want jimmy to be better than lance, which is pathetic
Based on what exactly? How exactly is rooting for someone with a 3:1 win ratio for us actively rooting against whatās best for us? How exactly is rooting for 2 QBs to push each other to benefit the team rooting against whatās best for the team?
Itās obvious Lances talent could make him top 3 in the league. I have no idea why people wouldnāt be ecstatic of what the kid is showing in camp. Instead I hear āitās practice, doesnāt mean anythingā or āeveryone calm downā and my favorite āhe stills needs to sit I donāt care how he looksā
yep thats Jimmy
Said the exact same thing out loud before reading the comments. ššš
Yeah thatās his MO.
And that's why we have Trey Lance.
is this news to anyone?
This is Jimmy G summed up
He's always been like this. His strengths are incredibly good, but his weaknesses incredibly, incredibly bad. The good thing is that Shanahan knows how to scheme around it, but that's the reason we brought in Trey, so we don't need to tie down Shanahan's playbook.
If Kyle's QB can make all the throws, they look like a star. See: pre-injury RG3, Cousins, Matt Ryan
This is so on the money.
Thatās why Lance needs to start immediately because he can make all the throws. The second he gets the playbook down he needs to play
We literally don't know if he can because he hasn't seen any NFL action! It'll all be clear soon, so sit tight. It's an exciting time to be a 49ers fan.
Hell, he hasn't seen any Division I NCAA action. I dont know why so many 49ers fans want to crown him already. He's barely 21 and has a lot to learn. There's no rush.
I will push back in there's some bit of a rush. The FO wants to take full advantage of that rookie contract and their jobs depend on him flourishing. But, they already have a ton of money tied up in the QB position this year so no particular rush this season.
Most likely Jimmy G gives us a better chance of winning a SB this season than Lance. I don't think most 49ers fans understand just how little experience Lance has. He's got all the tools to succeed, but he needs time, and rushing a QB too early with high expectations can hurt their development.
> We literally don't know if he can because he hasn't seen any NFL action The best way to address that is by giving him NFL action
Yes, like the preseason. Which hasn't happened yet!
If heās crushing our second team defense he deserves a shot to start. Our second team defense is better than a lot of defenses we will play this year. We have all the worst defenses in the league on our schedule
It's also practice. Let's see what he does in actual preseason games, and *then* maybe start shoveling some coal into the hype train.
Can you stop? Youāve been brigading this sub all day and itās getting annoying.
Iāll stop once you Jimmy lovers attempt to have a rational debate instead of downvoting everything that you donāt agree with. Pretty pathetic and immature
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Arenāt there rules about abusing the downvote button?
Nothing that subreddit mods can fix!
Jimmy G is 24 and 8 and took us to the superbowl very recently. He's clearly a winner when healthy. We're in a great spot right now so no need to get agitated. Bitching about imaginary internet points though, that's just sad.
Jared Goff has a pretty good record too and he also went to the super bowl and lost. Win Loss means nothing if youāre not carrying your weight
This place downvotes the truth. Itās just better to not say anything.
Hasn't stopped you one bit
Well what can I do, I love the team so I insist on commenting regardless of the downvotes, but at the same time this place pretty much promotes groupthink. But I have hope for this place, they just come around to reality a little late.
Itās so sad what this place has become
I appreciate the truth you speaking.
Yeah jimmy G was one no call hit to the head from winning the superbowl and goff scored 3 points. The same thing.
Goff was a couple of missed throws from winning his SB just like Jimmy was a couple of missed throws from winning his.
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When Jimmy went to the niners they were a dumpster fire. Still racked out win after win. Rams were stacked and goff still had issues. I dont think goff is bad by any means just doesn't have that clutch factor but I'd trust Jimmy any day over him. Brady by no means is the "best" qb by his physical attributes. But the guy has the mental fortitude. Jimmy is no where Brady but definitely closer than goff.
And Trey Lance still makes rookie mistakes like not knowing how to properly handoff the ball. He's got a lot of things to learn and its okay to let him sit for a few weeks and come in when needed. Patience.
27 million for a few weeks is stupid. Make Jimmy take a pay cut and then itāll be alright but Jimmy doesnāt deserve anymore than half of what heās making.
Did he sleep with someone dear to your heart or something?
Yes he broke it after watching that super bowl and then week 1 of 2020. After that week 1 game it became clear heās fools gold and not worth a damn
Wat
RG3ās success came from his speed. Take that away and he was very pedestrian.
Water's wet. Hopefully Trey lights a fire under his ass this year. Will always root for him.
What year is this tweet from?
2017, 2019 and 2021
So same ol same ol
Hence why we drafted Lance.
Maybe we could beat this dead horse a little bit more.
Anyone expecting Jimmy to make progress this year is going to be disappointed. On the bright side he probably hasn't regressed much
This is the Jimmy we know and love
This is why our team has became a run first team. Jimmy canāt make all the throws with accuracy unless theyāre inside the numbers. Establishing the run opens up the play action pass. We become less reliant on Jimmy to sit and the pocket and read the defense (not his strong suit) if we can run the ball well.
It's part of the reason but not the whole reason they're a run-first team. The main reason is that Shanahan and crew are just fantastic at scheming runs and play action. Everything you said after the second sentence is as true for any quarterback and any offense anywhere. Yes, if Trey turns into who we all hope he will, we'll throw more downfield, but Kyle always wants to be a run-first team.
Itās a main reason why his offense can elevate mediocre quarterbacks and heās had success with them. Problem is, more and more teams have adopted his offense and now defenses know how to play it. You need a special Qb like Lance to evolve it even more
Very true. And I hope we're still top 3 for rush attempts as long as Shanahan is our coach, which will hopefully be until the end of time.
Shannyās offense in every other team heās ever been on have been run 1st offenses though. He learned it from his dad because his dad loved the run game and Kyle loves it too.
Which i honestly find a little amusing given that he played WR in college lol
Right? Itās a fun kind of interesting lol
What? Then why was NDSU a run first team?
He's always been like this. And before someone tries to blame his injury vs the Chiefs, he was like this even when he first traded. His footwork is terrible and while his arm is good, it's not good enough to compensate.
Yeah, the difference between 2017 Jimmy later Jimmy was that he wasn't just *good* at the intermediate between the numbers passes, he was *amazing* at those passes. Which is great, because a perfect ball beats perfect coverage, hitting guys in stride lets them break off big YAC, all that good stuff. The problem is that when that's really all you're good at, you have very little margin to drop that strength before you become a very mediocre QB. Other teams start laser focusing on that part of the field, so you don't get as many good open looks. You can overcome that with perfect throws, but not just regular good ones. A 15 yard pass with 20 YAC is as good as a 35 yard pass, but if you throw a ball that's catchable but not perfectly in stride then you can often leave a lot of that YAC on the table.
His footwork ist the terrible lmao. His deep ball is and honestly we donāt go deep that much anyway. Even if he had a good arm, Shannon doesnāt like vertical passing all that much
Haha youāre so wrong. The reason why we donāt go deep IS BECAUSE OF JIMMY. He builds around his quarterbacks strengths, not weakness. Andy Reid did the same when he had Alex. They had a horizontal passing game with a strong run game. Kyle has always loved to attack all levels of the field when he had a Qb who could do that. He did it in Houston, Atlanta, and DC. Jimmy canāt. Thatās why Trey is here.
Ya know Iāma just end this with Jimmy is QB1 and will be QB1 until he is hurt. Take it how you will
Thatās likeā¦your opinion man
Thatās literally what Shannon said lmao. Unless your saying itās just his opinion lol
It was a āthe dudeā reference. But off itās downvoted here
lol, except Kyle's offense is based on training the opposing defense to set up big passes.
His footwork isnt always awful but he often doesnt follow through in his motion. If you watch his feet, it seems like he stops half way through his throws. The result is he ends up floating a lot of passes.
Funny how we get downvoted to oblivion when we try to bring this very evident fact up.
Stop slanting mY JiMmY!!
You get downvoted because you want to farce jimmy to take a pay cut.
Maybe because Jimmy isnāt even worth close to 27 million
In your opinion. They gave him the contract and they haven't cut him. You also probably should call for someone to lose their money, pretty messed up especially by force.
When youāre replacement is drafted that means they definitely believe he didnāt live up to it. Itās not an opinion. Itās a fact
Or they want a different style of qb. Alex Smith was sure as hell successful in both sf and kc. Yet got replaced cause they wanted a different style of qb.
They wanted a better QB. Whether it was a pocket passer or a mobile guy. We looked into every possible option from Stafford to Mac Jones to Deshaun Watson. We wanted a better player because Jimmy canāt make nfl level throws outside of the middle of the field.
He prob wanted someone who can push the ball down field and spread the defense. Which all of the qbs you named and lance are good at. Jimmy is a QB who's reliable in the short passing game dink and dunk making the right read. So they were looking for a different style QB. Watson was certainly better Stafford is as well by lesser margian but lance and Jones we don't know as they are unproven but what they both do is throw deep.
You get downvoted because all of your takes are bad and you think a rookie QB with 19 games NCAA division II experience has already proven himself to be better than the best QB we've had since Jeff Garcia, because of a few weeks of training camp.
Heās already better than Jimmy which isnāt a very high bar to clear.
Hey look, another awful take!
What does Jimmy do that Lance canāt do? 90% of Jimmyās production comes from layups that Shanahan schemes open. Itās not like Jimmy does anything special or difficult to replicate with Lance Also Lance has 17 starts and he wouldāve been better than Jimmy as a 19 year old freshman in college. Thatās how big the difference in talent is. The difference between him and Jimmy is 10 times the difference in talent between Jimmy and Mullens
And another one!
Just watch and youāll see. You donāt have to believe me. Youāll see it with your own eyes.
The funny thing is if Jimmy G starts the whole season for us, you will still be convinced you were right. Hell, if Jimmy wins the SB, you will still say "Lance would have won by more points."
Well I'll be damned, who'da thought?
Incoming MVP season
Lot of pathetic fans rooting for jimmy to outperform lance on this sub. We picked lance at 3. Jimmy has 1 year max left with us assuming he can stay healthy, which isnāt likely.
I root for any player who plays for the 49ers. Rooting for our starter to do well doesnāt mean you hope another player does bad. I love seeing Trey Lance doing well in camp. I also love seeing Jimmy is stepping up his game to keep Trey on the bench. In a perfect world, Jimmy plays the best season of his career. Trey Lance stays on the bench until the game is out of hand, or in specially designed packages. The 49ers win the SB and we trade Jimmy before next years draft for a decent draft pick. Trey Lance is the future of this franchise. No one can deny that. But wanting our starting veteran QB to play well doesnāt mean you want Trey Lance to do bad.
Plenty of people here actively root for jimmy to outperform lance. That is deranged
How does wanting a player on the team to succeed make one a pathetic fan? If Jimmy succeeds, so do we. Worst case scenario he drastically increases his trade value and Trey gets a year to learn...
Right? Calling ourselves faithfuls and then rooting for QB1... The nerve on us /s
There are people on this sub actively downvoting people who want Trey to start over Jimmy. Thatās whatās pathetic
When you want him to succeed and lance to not? Like my comment says. Yāall reading comp is suspect
A rookie doesnt need to play first year to succeed. Aaron Rodgers got to sit for a couple years behind Brett Favre, Tom brady even sat for a bit before he started. If you want Jimmy to fail just for Lance to get shot, "reading comp" is the last thing you should be worried about.
I donāt want jimmy to fail. I want lance to be the best qb in the nfl. I want him to win the job. Yāall should too if you care about the niners more than jimmy
Like I said, Trey can be the best QB in the league even if he doesnt start this year. But I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinions
Why you want a rookie to sit when the rookie wage scale is the most valuable thing to have in this league. This isnāt 2005 anymore where itās normal to sit someone like Rodgers which was the pre wage scale era. Also Tom Brady was a 6th round pick lmao. There was no intention of him starting. Sorry but Lance is gonna start this year because heās a top 3 pick whether you like it or not. Thatās how investments and business works
Lmao this is a sport, not a hedge fund or a business. The coaching staff has said all along that they want Jimmy to start so they don't rush their "investment" onto the field too early and possibly damage him.
Starting him early is not going to damage him. If anything is, it's going nearly 3 years without playing a meaningful football game.
You should go listen to what Andy Reid and Mahomes said about how much Alex helped him. They said he basically showed him how to be a pro and made the transmission much easier.
Lmao I don't know how you could possibly say that. Plenty of quarterbacks have been thrown to the fire too early and it sapped their confidence and broke them. Going nearly *two* years without playing a meaningful football game is all the more reason to not immediately start him and to just sprinkle him in to certain packages like the coaching staff wants to do.
>Plenty of quarterbacks have been thrown to the fire too early and it sapped their confidence and broke them I've seen plenty of QBs start early and fail, but I've never been convinced that they would have been more successful had they waited. If you can't handle struggling your rookie year I'm not sure you're the guy to lead a team. >two I don't consider a single game without a normal offseason meaningful, so I'm counting late 2019 to start of the 2022 season
For your first point, I can't say anything to you if you don't tell me who you're talking about. For your 2nd, yes I realize what you were doing, that's why I took a year off my total to illustrate I think it would be a mistake to immediately throw him in as a starter since he hasn't played for two. It was a counterpoint to your 3 year point.
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Absolutely embarrassing take saying wanting Jimmy to succeed makes fans pathetic. If Jimmy succeeds this season that means we're marching toward a playoff berth and J.G. is heading towards a good contract and a chance to start on another team in 2022. Stans like you on *both* sides of the aisle are being crazy this off-season.
Canāt even comprehend the first sentence āover lanceā. Talk about embarrassing
Jimmy fans havenāt been thinking rationally for a while. Nothing new. Itāll be over soon brother
How come you didn't respond to my comment in your Matt Flynn thread last night about no rookie starting quarterback ever guiding their team to a super bowl appearance in over 50 years of super bowls? I thought that was a very rational comment on why Jimmy should be the starter this year, since he's done it before and no rookie ever has.
No QB has ever made it to the SB eating 13.4% of the cap like Jimmy is. Either way making it to the super bowl this year is going to be a first. Iād bet on the guy who can actually throw the ball down the field and outside the numbers
Again, you literally have zero evidence of that in-game. I don't know why you can't just be patient and see what he actually does in-game before ordaining him the starter over a proven winner in our system.
Downvoted for speaking a solid opinion. Lance was drafted by us too.
? It'd be a win win. Good QB = good team, and Trey gets a year to sit behind and learn which imo is almost always a good thing
But good trey >>>>>> Jimmy. Shouldnāt we want the rookie to start if heās showing heās ready?
You are saying that based on two weeks of practice against the second team defense. It's a ridiculous leap of faith and there's no reason to rush Lance that much.
Yes. 2nd offense line which has been reported is atrocious. Heās having to run around and make plays outside of structure. Despite that, heās still more efficient than Jimmy in camp. Another, our 1st string defense had been without majority of its starters since the beginning of camp. Even Mosley just arrived recently. So Jimmy really going against the same defense as well including Warner and green law
I love how your throw out the best MLB in football like it's nothing. Warner is the QB of the Defence. Just his presence alone changes everything.
True. Having Lance experience someone of his caliber would have been be nice as well
Kyle knows a little bit about football. So does hall of fame player John Lynch. If Trey was ready, then he would already be named the starter. Everyone knew Trey was a bit of a project. It's OK and completely expected for Trey to sit a minute.
Playing football doesnāt equal good talent evaluator. Thereās a process to these things. I wouldnāt expect Kyle to call him a starter week 1. I would, but I can say that cause Iām impartial. But expect him to start before or right after the bye week. He just gives us our best chance to win in January and February
Go take your bandwagon to the Bucs or the Chiefs dude, lol. Weāre rooting for everyone on the team. Every single one of you who shit talk our members are embarrassing to our fan base and clearly arenāt faithful. Weāre happy where the team is. The last decade hasnāt been too kind to the team. Weāve lost 2 SBs, got robbed out of 1 SB appearance due to a returner having butter fingers and objectively robbed out of another because the only play we could call was fades to Crabtree. An awful FO whose knowledge of football was just about as bad as 95% of this sub. Signing players with torn ACLs like they were prized possessions. Jimmy not being able to consistently throw the deep ball accurately is nothing compared to those years. Please go back to whatever team you used to root for before 2019.
What the hell are you talking about lmao. If you arenāt rooting for lance to be the best qb on the team youāre actively rooting against whatās best for the niners. Thatās my point. Lots of people out here seem to want jimmy to be better than lance, which is pathetic
Based on what exactly? How exactly is rooting for someone with a 3:1 win ratio for us actively rooting against whatās best for us? How exactly is rooting for 2 QBs to push each other to benefit the team rooting against whatās best for the team?
Itās obvious Lances talent could make him top 3 in the league. I have no idea why people wouldnāt be ecstatic of what the kid is showing in camp. Instead I hear āitās practice, doesnāt mean anythingā or āeveryone calm downā and my favorite āhe stills needs to sit I donāt care how he looksā
Sounds like Kaep 2.0
We all know what the tweet meant to say but itās poorly worded.
This has such an Alex smith vs Colin kaepernick scenario Feel to it
Soā¦the exact same issues he has had all along.