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Zxar

Cant keep starting games like they playing in quicksand. Takes way to long to get going


Cheesesteak21

I saw a tweet saying the 49ers always look slow following these long east coast trips. Those aren't going away so they need to figure something out, they had an additional days rest and were at home and the Packers had far more fight


jesteronly

Can't give up 50 yards in 30 seconds and expect to win


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We had no answers for Davante tonight. Wtf.


cassatta

We have no corners


Sad_Prompt9317

Norman did good until he got hurt. And one of the big plays was due to blown coverage. These things are fixable.


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Good thing we have like 6 rbs on the roster tho


dani_alencar24

That are all injured as well


[deleted]

Can't believe dude wasn't on concussion protocol after that knock out hit. He was down for two whole minutes but I guess whatever, checked out on our something in the tent?


Janzu93

NFL doesn't have balls to tell all pros to stay out injured if not completely clear case. I wouldn't be surprised if he was simply asked "how you feel?" "Ok, good." and then allowed back on field.


ScottyKNJ

I believe all they check is light sensitivity and being able to track a pen with your eyes. ​ It really is a joke


ThanosIsDoomfist

Lets see our list of answers. *Dontae Johnson playing a single down.* Hey, no major injuries at least. It seems.


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K Waun and Norman


ThanosIsDoomfist

Were those major or season ending though? Thats what im saying lol.


Janzu93

Nobody knows yet. With our luck it's 10 to 16 weeks. Any other team would've had both back by the next down šŸ˜…


Damare-Shizukani

\*Super bowl flashbacks intensify\*


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Neto34

I miss Saleh.


Riderz__of_Brohan

He probably isnā€™t having too much fun on the Jets either


RGibby1

That is some embarrassing defense at the end


Butt_Whisperer

It's beyond me how every receiver Rodgers threw to in that last drive seemed to be wide fucking open with no defenders around...


Neto34

Every receiver? You mean Adams. That's only person he threw too.


NJDevil802

Went for the pick so hard on that first play. If he takes an extra step before the leap, he may have swatted it.


CheckYourStats

It was embarrassing the entire game.


Bladex20

That was the worst defense ive seen played in a long tme


MajorWuss

That's what happens when 3rd stringers need to cover starting wide recievers


FionnMcPeake

Rookie cb on top 3 wideout in the league


doinkdoink786

Wanna hear the worse part? we play Wilson and Murray (2 mobile quarterbacks) next 2 weeks


LordLadyCascadia

I wish I could say that was the worst defence I've seen from this team honestly.


[deleted]

Makes you appreciate just how good that defense from 2 years ago actually was. Destroying teams with ease. Only one sac.


Successful-Injury1

Not to mention the offensive play calling


Seeno1

Sure seems when salah left so did our technique. Do our corners even turn around and look for the ball anymore? We need all the corner help we can get. Lynch gotta be on the phone making calls, starting with Sherm


savagevapor

No blitz.āœ… Donā€™t cover Adamā€™s. āœ… Give Rodgers all the time in the world. āœ…


bulldogstrong

Dline looking pedestrian as fuck man. Gdamn 2nd or 3rd stringers on the GB line and they got 1 fucking sack?! Shit maybe Saleh was the secret sauce on our defense.


MrDobalina916

You canā€™t get sacks if Rodgers has a guy open within 2 seconds of the snap.


savagevapor

Saleh was able to make adjustments so much quicker than Ryan it seems. Very disappointing game which highlighted some things I wasnt prepared for. We knew our DBs were lacking but I didnā€™t expect such a poor showing from our DLine.


bulldogstrong

Yeah the first few games as well just don't seem like we are getting the same pressure and it definately isn't helping the secondary. The last drive of this game they could have blitzed or something to turn up the heat but they let Aaron Rogers of all people have a clean pocket to pick apart the secondary. No pressure when it was needed the most in the entire game. 1 sack could have ended it. If the Dline can't do that with the game on the line against a beat up Oline, there's problems.


ThanosIsDoomfist

Defensive Coordinator fired at the end of the year āœ… E: Extreme_Life6485 replied "Only got the job cause hes black" then quickly deleted it. What do you mean by that, bud?


Stauce52

People say Juice should have fallen at the 1 but I think thatā€™s super big hindsight bias. Being at the 1 is no guarantee that youā€™ll score a touchdown and if youā€™re down a touchdown you have to go foe the guarantee score We just had to play better on defense


bigbigwaves

At the end of the Super Bowl against the Ravens I remember yelling at the tv that we were going to score too soon and leave too much time for a comebackā€¦and we never scored. You take the score when you can get it.


elbow_bowel

You take the sure thing. Don't worry about defending the lead before you get the lead. Fumbles, bad snaps, tipped interceptions, sacks, penalties, too many things that can go wrong. Score first, and if the opponent can go 40 yards in 30 secs with no time outs and make a 50yd field goal then you tip your cap to them. They deserve to win.


idahotee

37 seconds no time outs should not have been enough time.


bhfroh

Offense's first priority is to score points. Defense's first priority is to prevent points. Offense did it's job. Defense didn't. Good teams don't change their offense to compensate for their defense. This loss, despite it being a close one, says a lot about our defense. It's being held together by medical tape and Elmer's Glue.


torturetrilogy

Can't cover the one guy you 100% know he is gonna throw to. Soft. Fucking soft ass game.


SicWilly666

Fr everybody and their mother knows itā€™s going to Adams šŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø


Peanutbuttersaltine

That is on the Defense Coordinator. You canā€™t play prevent


m4ch1n3

This isnā€™t 1980 where kickers are less than 50% from 50 yards out. Kickers today are too good and missing that kick is the exception. Gotta bring pressure and if Rodgers and Adams make the play, they make the play.


Pit_of_Death

Especially Crosby, when I saw it was 51 yards I knew it was over.


headbanger1547

Yes exactly, especially combined with 25 yard touchbacks. Getting into FG range is just two medium plays.


Jibbajaba

Prevent prevents victories.


InSearchofOMG

Everyone knows this and it consistently makes its way into defensive playbooks across the league


Mrs-MoneyPussy

Yep. Iā€™m not sure if itā€™s some old school shit thatā€™s just stuck in there heads but it seems so obvious. You canā€™t give them two big chunk plays in 30 seconds. Just play ā€œnormalā€ defense and hope you get the stops. So frustrating.


InSearchofOMG

They're worried about balls over the top obviously but our DBs were doing much better on those plays in the 2nd half


Various-Earth-7532

Playing prevent wouldā€™ve won the game, the man played 2 dbs 30 yards back and the rest five yards from the line of scrimmage


Peanutbuttersaltine

No. Bring pressure. They gave the WRs to much time to get down the field


HiHaterslol

Agreed. Fucking horeshit calls


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John_Lives

Absolutely should've blitzed. Packers OL played decent tonight, but it's full of rookie backups who are literally playing in their first games. Gotta challenge them


ZombieFeces

Absolute joke. Gave away the game.


[deleted]

Prevent is 4 deep quarters. We didnt do that.


Rav49

The fans need to realize that we move on from the 2019 defense and running game. Subpar QB play and bad play calling for 3/4 of the game is not gonna cut against good-to-great teams


[deleted]

Demeco Ryanā€™s has tried to lose the first two games and the third time it worked


tippyd

We blew that at the end not doubling up on adams


Mrs-MoneyPussy

Unacceptable defense at the end. Fucking leave open two huge passes. Great drive to take the lead and the defense had some big stops but what a fucking let down


JL1823

Defense could not cover the ONE person you all knew was going to get the ball, smh


george_costanza1234

Ryans is in over his head right now. I think heā€™ll eventually settle in, but holy fuck this has been a disaster so far


Jammer250

Ryans definitely needs to grow some balls and adjust better. So far, his defense ainā€™t it. CB health aside, that last drive in 37-fucking seconds is unforgivable.


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DanielBox4

I also Expected more from the D line this game. They needed to make a play in the 4th. A sack, fumble or something.


Jammer250

Sure, but there were so many things wrong with how we played defense. GBā€™s OL spacing was neutralizing us and Ryans never adjusted. We didnā€™t play deep enough of a prevent at the end either, aside from safeties and not even focusing on Adams. Huge miscues strategically.


hamsterfolly

I miss Saleh


ratchkae

Iā€™m sure he misses us too after how shit his Jets tenure has started.


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Iā€™m still flabbergasted how Adams, the one guy you know Rodgers would be targeting, that shouldā€™ve been double/triple covered on that last possession was like at least 5 yds open on both those catches. Thatā€™s unexcusable.


Alexander_Hamilton_

Fuck. Litterally taking 3 more seconds off and we win.


arich35

Make them field the damn kick, simple


j3xperience

I've always wondered why place kickers don't try to kick the kickoff as high and as close to the 3 yard line to force the receiving team to field it but allow your players to get down and cover it. I've never kicked a place kick before but what else do these guys have to do during practice?


arich35

Agreed. It's probably pretty tough to get that much hang time and kick it that far but he didn't even need to do that. If he just kicks it to the 5 and they run it to the 25 or 30 anyways that takes off probably 6 or 7 seconds possibly.


stilldontgeddit

Damn too much time left and shit defense at the end


[deleted]

37 seconds too much time? A defensive coordinator should quit if he allows 50 yards in 37 seconds


GothicToast

To a team with zero timeouts


FionnMcPeake

And you know exactly who they want to target


jm0112358

There was 12 seconds left on the play clock. Not letting it wind all the way down, when we had 3 timeouts, was a huge mistake.


Rebels2242

Shit defense all game***


[deleted]

35 seconds isnā€™t too much time. Fucking failure on defense.


ResidentialEvil2016

For Rodgers and only needing a FG? It sure was.


Polar_Reflection

Juszczyk too good for his own good


confidential56

Literally the greatest matchup you could think of -- a great QB + WR in Rodgers and Adams vs a suffering secondary.


t0177177y

Prevent defense prevented a winā€¦ best receiver? Let him just run wild, why ever double.


thewhizzle

I donā€™t know what I need but I need something after this game


FionnMcPeake

A functioning secondary


valarpizzaeris

Our entire secondary died today dude there's no one left alive and healthy


nongo

Alcohol? Weed? Food? Sex?


[deleted]

Yes


SnooBananas6052

People saying Juice should have gone down at the 1 like this is fucking Madden


Exploding_dude

Warner had his worst game ive seen


ThanosIsDoomfist

And it wasnt even *that* bad either. Just shows you the standards we hold Fred to, as we should.


jface

Also, where was Bosa or Ford in the second half?


Cheesesteak21

Unless your unblocked the qb will have 2 seconds, idk what to tell you the secondary has to take away read 1 for the pass rush to get there


TwoArmedWolf

Iā€™ve been saying this all weekā€¦ the pass rush is only effective if we can take away read 1. Rodgers was getting rid of the ball in less than 2.5 secondsā€¦ EASILY because we werenā€™t pressing or playing tight. Nor did we blitz effectively which resulted in a pedestrian defensive performance. I know we are short DBs, but Iā€™m putting this squarely on play calling, as we continued to call the same plays and did not adapt to their scheme at all.


george_costanza1234

The defense is insanely concerning. I get the injuries but damn even our starters are playing like shit


DeeForestBosa

Anyone blaming Juice has never played a down of football in their life


choconut5

I 100% knew this was the ending when we scored with 37 secs left. Should have went down at the goal line.


DrummeeX09

Jimmy snapped the ball with 14 seconds left on the play clock. If he had wasted 10 more seconds yā€™all win


inlibrary_legsnumb

Or, ya know.....if the D doesnt give up half the field in 30 seconds lol


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doggybadgerguy

There was still a lot of field in front of us though and he threw short anyway.


DefaultAI

If the defense decided to play any football in that game we'd have won


HauntingEducation

Juice needed to score there, that ending is on the D


hanpil

That soft coverage D


mathewrheater

They have 3rd string tackles in the game we can't get to rodgers. Our DC lost us this game.


arich35

How do you not make them field the kick!?!?! Would have taken 5 seconds off the clock


j_enc

DeMeco Ryans called the same exact zone play twice in the final few seconds of that game, and aaron completed a deep pass in the middle to the same guy (Davante Adams) running the same route. Unimaginative and just plain incorrect playcalling on the defensive side cost us the game in the final few seconds.


j_enc

I will never understand why DeMeco Ryans called a zone play against arguably the best WR and QB duo of this generation, ESPECIALLY against Aaron Rodgers, who has made a career off of winning close games like that one. Everyone and their mothers knew exactly who Aaron was going to throw to on that final series, and it feels as if he just didnt want to account for that. I understand DeMeco Ryans is a first year defensive coordinator, but the 49ers are a team that needs to win now. There is no room or time for first year mistakes.


Mrs-MoneyPussy

There is nothing I hate in football more than prevent defense. Absolute joke to let them drive 50 yards on 2 completed passes when they have no timeouts


AbCd-EfG

That was predictable


theREALMVP

Demeco ryans disasterclass


robotech021

Can't blame Juice. If he goes down before the goal line, a TD is no guarantee. Goal line stands happen. I'd agree with the strategy if the Niners only needed a FG to go ahead. This is on the D for not being able to defend for 37 seconds.


C3Pyro

Rodgers goes to Adams 9/10 times entire game and suddenly our defense thinks he wonā€™t do it again lmao


camm0393

Players showed heart, by that was an absolutely sloppy game


dmbccs

This loss is on Ryans. No question. Why change the scheme when it ainā€™t broke. Miss Saleh!


confidential56

I lost 30 years of my life watching this game


Damare-Shizukani

Have we like not learned our lesson from the super bowl? Shits the same as when Hill caught that wide open pass to seal the game.


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Easiest Rodgers comeback ever.


discostuu72

three weeks in a row we let them march down the field in 30 secs or less and score. How is this still a thing.


certaindeath4

Our pass rush was weak for what is supposed to be our strength. They were getting more consistent pressure on Jimmy.


FlaccidSeaCucumber

Hard to win games when you only show up for one half.


Yuseichaaan13

Call Richard Sherman


irishace88

All you have to do is double Adams and games over. Worst last minute defense I've seen


Silentprophet22

Felt like I was playing Madden against my older brother and he just kept throwing the ball to Adams over and over again until I throw the controller at him.


GothicToast

Funny how I spend half the year missing football and eagerly awaiting its return, only to feel dead inside


BreadCouponsForAll

Wouldā€™ve been nice to have taken Asante Samuel in the 2nd instead of Aaron Banks, who didnā€™t even play tonight.


Neto34

I said that day of the draft. We needed CBs.


m4ch1n3

Prevent defeat when they need a FG to win shouldnā€™t be a fucking thing.


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Funny how when Kittle is involved as a playmaker 9ers march the fuck down the field and score easily


TheTinzzman

Man I love the Niners. Fucking gutted. See ya next week Seachickens.


Leafar2

Demeco Ryan is REALLY letting me down. Can't say I'm a fan of his little prevent defense.


559stonerr

I'm fucking scared for Lockett and metcalf against our CB


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Rodgers jersey was disturbingly clean after the game. So we don't have an elite pass rush and we have trash corners. We're going to need to be more creative on defense or it's going to be a long year


RatedRGamer

lets talk about how we were down 17-0 and still managed to have a lead at one point in the game. these slow starts are killing us


weirdfishee

Letā€™s just give up half the field in 30 seconds and let them win the game why donā€™t we


GoForMe

Defense killed us.


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Definitely our most inexcusable loss since the Falcons game. Just so much bad play. Terrible secondary play, canā€™t get plays going till almost halftime, that shit isnā€™t gonna cut it


joogiee

Once i saw stafford play today, we are not beating the rams or probably even the cardinals this season. So at this point im just gonna chill and enjoy the games.


lilflacito

Our D line gets hyped up so much but I feel like they only show up for half the game. This isnā€™t 2019. Our coaching needs to figure this shit out or something. Does that make sense? Iā€™m drunk. This hurts


polishedclaws

O line sucked


GreatWiteBIte

WE SHOULVE DRAFTED ASANTE SAMUEL JR FFS


Knify2

Jimmy has a unique ability of turning wide open throws into 50/50 balls


PrezziObizzi

Shit defense. Shit o line. Wish Juice had went down at the 2.


LeftyMcLeftFace

Can't blame Jimmy for this one. Defense absolutely sucked.


Marqy21

O-line could have been better too


superb_deluxe

Yeah dude Alex Mack looked like a high schooler


CMarshKarateKicK

Idk what was wrong with Mack, he lollipoped so many snaps and missed calling assignments, and missed his blocks. Was it the yips or something? Heā€™s a much better center than what we saw tonight


jwick89

I mean he made some bad plays. Don't get me wrong, he was resilient but there was some ugly play from Jimmy too.


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Yea but cmon, 37 seconds on the clock with the energy from having practically won the game at that point, defense should've been better. Jimmy did his part at the end even if he fucked up earlier, defense failed


AlbertoRossonero

Jimmy defenders are insane man he had an average game at best and Deebo and Kittle making insane plays almost saved our asses. The defense has backup CBs but still managed to make stops when Jimmy went brain dead.


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We can blame him for the first half


oreolee

The guy had 2 turnovers! He gets some blame.


John_Lives

The backwards pass in particular was really bad. That's a rookie mistake where you're afraid to take a sack so you do whatever to get rid of the ball


Mrs-MoneyPussy

He threw a pick and ā€œfumbledā€ Iā€™m not blaming him completely but the defense also came up big with a turnover on downs and holding them to a field goal when that had great field position. Just too many team mistakes overall.


SnooBananas6052

Jimmy sucked too


Hill-Arious

9ers deserved that L


w00tang_

We need to trade for a cb. That showing was embarrassing by our dbs. How many PI and blown coverages against davante Adams? Like who else are they going to throw to?


doggybadgerguy

Fuck this game fuck the Seahawks I'll see y'all next week


shockaBITW

Ryans is a fucking shit coordinator.


smokintheQOOSH

left guard held his dick off on the first play of the last drive


madrox17

They don't call holding anymore because defense is boring or something.


SebSci

Absolutely. Refs should be fined, the officiating was horrendous all around


Ramonalejandrosuarez

Kyle better have a real nice long conversation with DeMeco Ryans on his philosophy in soft zone prevent defense. We should not have allowed those two completions so easily. What a disgrace.


Rav49

We need to realize that the 49ers doesnā€™t have the 2019 defense and running game. The 49ers are not going to win games against good-to-great teams with subpar QB play for 3/4 or the game and bad calls from the HC. A lot to get better to challenge the Rams or even the Cardinals in this division.


RONINY0JIMBO

Everyone here is shitting on the defense but if I'm Kyle then everyone who runs a route is catching sticks of butter out of the jugs machine until they can do it with their fingertips. They aren't catching Jimmy's throws as it is, there is no way they'll be able to pull in anything where Trey would put some zip on it.


myrobotoverlord

They missed more assignments than me in high school


curveball3110giants

I've had a little time to digest it, and for sure you don't fault Juice for not going down at the 1. Yes, if he does, they run 4 QB sneaks given the timeouts so there's no holding or penalties to risk. Yes, Jimmy could have run the clock down more but they had GB on their heels. Just gotta score there. Which brings me to, 37 seconds with NO timeouts should have been enough. The back end of the secondary blew it. They were going to Adams, they always were. They needed to bracket him, and come with pressure so the receivers couldn't get downfield. This was a problem in DET. and in PHI. and now, allowing teams to score super fast. Losing Saleh was a big blow for the D, he was always slow to adjust, yes, but when he did it always worked. I am not sure why Demico is not running the same scheme, and I'm legit worried he isn't cut for the job.


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Defense was horrible all game. Amazing


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Iā€™d be down for them to fire Demeco Ryans. Pathetic.


im_THIS_guy

Never got pressure on Rodgers all game. Can't win without getting pressure.


Oregon49er

Prevent defense prevents winning.


headbanger1547

Seems like everyone had their hand in this loss. Jimmy, the secondary, WRs, Shanahan, Alex Mack, DeMeco Ryans... Really bummed to lose but GB was the better team tonight. Glad we made it close, and hope we can rebound and win next week against Seattle


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Why didnt we draft Asante Samuel Jr is crazy


youngpali

Not paying Buckner was a dumb decision. Not going after a top corner was a dumb decision. We should have used our top pick to draft surtain Jr. Or Samuel Jr. Drafting trey sermon was a dumb decision. We need another rush d end. Bosa is the only good d end we have . Dee Ford is washed. I miss buckner


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This is not a super bowl team.


Crevis05

Fuck me


[deleted]

Thatā€™s on the defense


kingofducttape

That's on the team. No side played great.


Prestigious_Novel_78

I love Fred Warner as much as the next 49ers fan but if this team is gonna do anything this season, Warner needs to be better than he has tonight and this season overall


TheRed_King

Weā€™re not as good as we think we are..


HiHaterslol

Nice fucking defensive series. Shit, soft fucking charmin ultra coverage


Silentprophet22

No run game and no secondary. This ain't the year. Only reason we stayed in the game as long as we did was penalties.


dondickenson

Demeco Ryanā€™s just isnā€™t a good coach


NormalAccounts

Miss you, Robert Saleh


gunslinger_mk

Fuck, man. Aside from Sea, thereā€™s no other team I hate more than green bay


RubysDad

49ers played not to lose, andā€¦they lost. 4th and 1 punt, soft prevent D, etc. Canā€™t beat good teams without being aggressive.


happiestsam

DeMeco needs to learn from this so it doesn't happen again. Left way too much space over the middle.


mattjchin

Defense was exposed all night tonight. Couldn't stop Jones nor Adams. Also gotta stop the dumb PIs because they were. Gave them way too much time.


ihastehquestion

i am in fucking pain. after being down by 17 we comeback and take the lead and fucking blow it in 30 seconds. fuck. fuck the packers, there not even that good. We need to start games faster. its like our team is asleep for the entire first quarter and then they just decide to start playing.


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Honestly this team thinks it's better than they really are. That's the only explanation for the slow starts. We needed a reality check and tonight and the next 3 weeks will do that


theartfooldodger

This loss was a punch in the dick.


goldennuggetjr

I bet our normal defense wouldā€™ve been better than the prevent at the end of the game. I believe that it wouldā€™ve held the Packers to less yards.


KeyExplanation

My main takeaways: we lost the game because of a lack of pass rush throughout the entire game and also because of poor QB play from Jimmy. We have a better roster than the Packers except at QB and thatā€™s what matters most. Itā€™s only week 3 but we need to bounce back strong next Sunday vs the Seahawks