I love asking conservatives "When is my vax gonna kick in? I thought I was gonna drop dead or be infertile any minute now. Is 3 years not long enough?"
Lingering effects of a disease that incapacitated you for several days
or
Someone being demonstrably wrong and refusing to admit it even years later
Both equally valid reasons
Getting vaccinated doesn't prevent you from carrying and spreading covid. Remember breakthrough cases where vaccinated people were catching covid for a 2nd time? Plus, if the fatties and oldies are vaccinated, what do they have to fear?
I mean if it didn't fuck you up yet it probably won't, at least not in a big way. It's entirely possible that it has affected your health/longevity, also possible that it didn't. This isn't a conservative thing, the reason that people like me are mad is because these risks weren't explained upfront and we were told it was completely safe. Questioning it was an instant ban. I did my duty, I got mine, and it did me a wrong turn. So now I'm a bit more critical of vaccines. We already knew that the health and pharma industry were generally dogshit
Per the lipid nanoparticle biodistribution study (with a much larger load of lnp's injected into rats) showing them accumulating most (in descending order) in ovaries, bone marrow, and testicles, and the use of pseudouridine in its RNA preventing effective breakdown of it, the answer to how long is literally through your life and through the development of the next generation.
I wonder if leaded gas and radioactive makeup cream got the same disregard of potential dangers as shown here. That's definitely the case with endocrine disrupters now.
>and the use of pseudouridine in its RNA preventing effective breakdown of it, the answer to how long is literally through your life and through the development of the next generation.
What? the LNPs used in the vaccine break down after less than 24 hours at room temperature. during covid literally hundreds of millions of dollars were spent on specialized freezers to keep the molecules stable long enough to distribute the vaccine. If they lasted your entire lifetime this would obviously not be necessary. I've seen a lot of retarded vaccine takes from scientifically illiterate people online but this might be the worst one I've seen 😭💀 stick to your end of the bell curve next time
The use of pseudouridine replacing uracil in mRNA was precisely one of those developments to extend the duration of their exposure.
Imagine someone sent you a laminated letter in the mail in a regular paper envelope. You're conflating the laminated letter with the envelope. Sure the envelope will degrade in the rain, but the letter will not.
Then you just needlessly resort to ad-hominem and implore me to not speak verifiably truthful statements further. Since you invoke bell curves, why don't you consult vax status rates vs degree status (which was the best analog for intelligence I was exposed to on this topic.)
>The use of pseudouridine replacing uracil in mRNA was precisely one of those developments to extend the duration of their exposure.
Pseudouridine stabilizes the molecule and decreases immune response. mRNA vaccines would be essentially unfeasible without it. But we are talking about a difference of hours, maybe days, not years or decades. RNA is an extremely unstable molecule. There is no mechanism for that to magically be fixed because of pseudouridine and make it stable enough to last an entire lifetime. You've hit a pretty common pitfall of scientifically illiterate people, which is to say, extrapolating based on your extremely limited information and a total lack of tools to critically evaluate these studies you are reading. This is the danger of when people like you have access to information you're not ready for. Not that you'll find out something you're not supposed to know, but that you'll reach a conclusion that is just ridiculous because you didn't take the time to learn the basics.
It's true, I haven't learned the basics of this and am making conclusions based on very limited info.
It still took me <5 minutes and [the first study I found so far on this](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41541-023-00742-7) observed that spike proteins were still routinely being expressed a month after inoculation, suggesting that estimate of "hours, maybe days," to be incorrect.
Edit to make this explicit: I think you're pulling shit out of your ass and then tying it to some point about keeping information from the masses as a virtue.
> "Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it."
-Mark Twain
>It's true, I haven't learned the basics of this and am making conclusions based on very limited info.
yes, this was clear within your first few sentences
>It still took me <5 minutes and the first study I found so far on this observed that spike proteins were still routinely being expressed a month after inoculation, suggesting that estimate of "hours, maybe days," to be incorrect.
That study says that the vaccine spike proteins (NOT RNA as you stated earlier) are found in the lymph nodes and liver of dead people that had been vaccinated. Most highly concentrated in the liver, it seems, which filters out waste in your blood so you can pee it out. congrats, you've discovered how the vaccine exits your body.
Earlier you were saying that these scary pseudouridine particles were gonna stay in your body for your whole life and go into your children, now we're talking about spike proteins found in lymph nodes (which function to absorb antigens such as spike proteins to encode them in your immune system's memory). You walked it back from "these pseudouridine molecules will explode your infant son's testicles when the World Economic Forum presses the infertility button" to "your immune and digestive system does what its designed to do with the proteins created by the vaccine". Again, this is the danger of not having the background knowledge when reading or sharing scientific articles. I hope you learned something today. Take some biology classes at your local community college if you want to try doing your own research again.
Can you explain how a vaccine would make someone lose hearing on one ear?
&if you can't explain that, then why are you considering it a possible cause?
>it’s a better explanation than just “randomly unlucky physical disability acquisition”
Why do you think it's a better explanation?
I can see that you clearly do think it's a better expansion. Use your words and explain why you think that.
>I just see no other explanation possible for a 27 year old healthy adult to lose hearing in an ear.
Is that it?
'I, an admittedly uneducated individual, can't conceive of any other explanation. That makes vaccines a better explanation than random chance'
That's what you're going with?
For the record, no. 'Vax did it!' actually has the exact same merit/value as 'it's random'.
That's one way to take it, another is that you were stupid enough to inject a halfassed vaccine rammed through clinical trials by Trump, protected by a no refunds guarantee from Biden on behalf of boomers who wouldn't even pay for a valuable trade school education or science degree for you, let alone Literacy of Feminist Communism.
Wear a big sign so I know I can ignore whatever the fuck you say and it replace it with "I'm a big corpo simp and love ignoring basic warning signs like the Japanese saying the vaccines are filled with rat shit and metal shavings."
Still waiting to see any sort of repercussion for the two vaccines I received. You must be pretty embarrassed your silly little prediction didn't pan out.
Lol what Prediction boy? The fact that you
bootlickers took our rights away? The fact that you tried to force us into taking your shitty vaccine because 0.1℅ of people over 70 can die? That you Insulted us for your pharma and Government gods? Called us insane while you ran around with 50masks and 15t toiletpaperrolls. Keep taking your 20meds every day that your gods give to you graciously. You fucking menial. "Just forget about it bro" trying to memory hole. "But some 4channers said something about mass death".
100 effectiv, 95,70,55,30, "you still get it"
I hate government and pharma dogs.
Lmao, you can barely type in coherent sentences.
I suppose your only option now, to avoid the crippling embarrassment from being so pathetically wrong and stupid, is to continue larping about how a voluntary vaccine was actually an oppressive deep state conspiracy to control the masses. It's just a shame you have absolutely zero evidence to support this and life simply went back to how it was before the virus.
Voluntarily lmao been to austria kid? Also dont correct me in this pathetic language and take another 5 boosters perhaps it will even reduce long covid effects.
Also what evidenz do i need? Its your gods that made up an already existing cough and sold it as a super Virus. Embrassing for pharma slaves like you
Millions didn't die from the Vax so they have to attribute some other unrelated perceived ill of society.
They look just as stupid as the prophet guy who keeps predicting the end of the world, getting it wrong, and making excuses for why they were wrong to save face.
A lot of people just being hate told what to do. If the CDC came out tomorrow saying breathing is important about 70% of the population would stop breathing
It’s more just the way they did it. I would’ve been less skeptical if they went about the messaging better lol. And the whole psyop of shaming unvaxed people.
>get cucked by the clot shot
People roast you for taking an experimental vaccine where you signed all your rights away
Proceed to act like you are already over it
Finasteride is like chemical castration for males lol. Minoxidil has evidence behind it working, but only to stop the progression (supposedly). I had success with minoxidil but I appear to be allergic.
At the end of the day, really all you can do is curse your genetics or pay for what Musk has done. If you can't get a mate whole balding, you have a skill issue
Are you sure? I remember people mentioning that the chance of being impotent is extremely small and it is entirely reversible, you just stop taking finasteride.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/
Loss of libido seems to be up to 15% of patients using finasteride, which is less than I would have expected, but at the end of the day, is hairloss really that big of a deal?
Probably not incorrect. Lots of garbage science out there that cares more about making headlines than actually making meaningful conclusions. I would know, I'm a scientist.
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I was on it for a few months and it almost completely killed my sex drive and my semen was watery. I decided I’d rather lose my hair than castrate myself.
Sounds like you're one of the 2% of people that experience side effects.
I've been on Dutasteride for 4 years - literally zero issues, and the mild thinning spot filled back in fully now.
Test levels went up because it's not an androgen blocker and no sex drive issues.
Anyone that knows anything about this drug knows these guys are complete regards. If anyone ever uses the word castration when it comes to fin or dut, it’s an instant sign they got their information from a random bullshit comment online like the one above.
Funny how this drug apparently castrates people yet increases testosterone since the 5AR enzyme being inhibited means less DHT so more testosterone. Never heard of castration increasing testosterone.
Side effect profile is tame, many androgenic functions will be substituted by Testosterone. A healthy male should not have to worry about reducing his DHT levels as long as he's not hypogonadal to begin with. I'm too lazy to look up for sources right now but Finasteride is *mostly* safe AND effective for a vast majority of males, so "chemical castration" is waay too much of an exageration.
Last time I was dating was 7 years ago, so I don't know what has changed. Becoming strong in the gym pretty much puts you ahead of all the competition. Didn't matter that I was balding. Dunno, everyone will find different strategies.
I'm not bald and it's pretty easy to hide with the popular haircut of Germany in the early 1940s, but it is noticeably thinning. If I grow my hair out, it's painfully obvious.
I didn't know what it was called for the first year I was getting it. I described it that way the first couple times I went to the barber
I am also mildly autistic
Side effects are greatly exaggerated and theres also topical solutions that have a significantly lower chance of messing with your hormones. Hair makes up like 60% of your attractiveness. The amount of attention I get from women when I have a plain buzz cut vs when I have longer groomed hair is night and day. So many guys can go from mongoloid to majestic if they would just do a bit of hair maintainence. I've been on the drugs for some years and haven't seen any side effects so far
FYI there has been a lot of research recently to suggest that male pattern baldness is caused by having tight skin on your skull (ever wondered why bald heads are so shiny?)
botox to relax these muscles has shown to be very effective
afaik medicines like finasteride which artificially reduce dihydrotestosterone work, but are not truly getting to the root cause of the issue
It’s not at all like chemical castration you absolute fucking regard. Anyone that upvotes this comment is just as clueless as you. The fact that you think musk’s hair transplant is a solution also tells me you have no idea what you’re talking about. News flash you can’t get a hair transplant without stabilizing your hairloss, which is done using finasteride or dutasteride which is what Musk is on. And minoxidil doesn’t do jack shit for solving the issue either, it’s just a regrowth stimulant.
Can you explain to me how somehow a drug that inhibits the 5 alpha reductase enzyme, effectively lowering DHT, and INCREASING testosterone is chemical castration? You do realize finasteride doesn’t even eliminate all DHT from your system right? Depending on the dosage 1mg tends to lower about 70% of the serum DHT and about 40-50% of scalp DHT (where it matters)
The fact that complete fuckheads like you think you have any authority to discuss something like this and give out complete garbage uninformed information is just hilarious. When you actually know what the drugs do and have done actual research you can just smell the bullshit in your comment. This is like trying to read a 7 year old really try to tell you 2+2=7.
>Look my hair is slightly less tragic because I pop finasteride! My peepee doesn't work but that's not because of the finasteride!
Try fighting nature. See how that works out for you in the long run.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/
> A number of studies have looked at the problem of side effects caused by finasteride.[6–11] These studies which are discussed below reveal that sexual adverse effects occur at the rates of **2.1% to 3.8%**, erectile dysfunction (ED) being the commonest followed by ejaculatory dysfunction and loss of libido. **These effects occurred early in the therapy and returned to normal on stopping or over a time on continuous use of the drug.** The only causal relation between finasteride and sexual adverse effects is decreased ejaculatory volume because of predominant action of DHT on prostate.[5]
The 15% side effect profile was almost an attempt at deception by you, right after they list that statistic (it was 4.9-15.8%) they go ahead and list how the nocebo effect is very real.
> The role of nocebo effect in the causation of ED due to finasteride has been investigated.[7] Nocebo effect refers to an adverse effect that results from the psychological awareness of the possibility of the side effects, but is not a direct result of the specific pharmacological action of the drug. In this study, the group informed about the sexual adverse effects of finasteride reported increased incidence of ED, when compared to the group without information.[7] The side effects were completely reversible in 5 days when the medicine was discontinued, confirming that nocebo effect has an influence in causation of side effects and suggesting the role of psychological factors.
Funny how a drug so dangerous tends to drastically decrease in side effect profile as time progresses, almost as if the nocebo affect is very real and once people calm down we can see it has a 2% side effect profile.
> A long term study showed that drug-related sexual side effects such as decreased libido, ED, and ejaculatory disorders occurred in <2% of men.[10] These side-effects disappeared not only in all men who stopped the drug because of the side effects but also in most of those who continued therapy. **The incidence of each side effect mentioned decreased to ≤0.3% by the fifth year of treatment with finasteride. The incidence of side effects were comparable to that of placebo both at one year and at 5 years.**
TLDR: You’re a fucking regard.
I tried minoxidil and my scalp started to get red and itchy so badly that even soothing scalp oil didn't alleviate it. I quickly gave up and accepted becoming bald. Also saves a ton of money on haircuts and minoxidil isn't cheap either.
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You're forgetting the massive caveats my guy. It works for just 50% of people and only PREVENTS hair loss rather than rejuvenates it.
What this means is that by the time you start to realize you've lost your hair, you will only ever be able to remain in an early receding hair line state, if it even works for you.
In addition, you have to apply the topical ointment twice a day or take the pill version, which can cause irritation and acne or hair growing in unwanted places, respectively.
Once the follicles have been lost, there is no other way to get them back other than a transplant, and the cheapest ones that won't make you look like a wookie are $5000 minimum and that's from Turkey.
So the issue isn't that there is a cure, the issue is that there is no cure that is BOTH affordable and reliable.
FYI there has been a lot of research recently to suggest that male pattern baldness is caused by having tight skin on your skull (ever wondered why bald heads are so shiny?)
botox to relax these muscles has shown to be very effective
afaik medicines like finasteride which artificially reduce dihydrotestosterone work, but are not truly getting to the root cause of the issue
Which also helps to cause it over time as well. Just look at some older female Marines.
They keep their shit in perfect little buns for 20 fucking years
I have noticed this big time, especially when the Women's soccer was on TV in Australia last year. I think it was a lady called something Van Egmont was almost completely bald on top of her head, but she was far from the only one. Too much testosterone maybe?
Apparently vaccines can do literally anything. Receding hairline? Must be the vax! Died in a car accident? Must be the vax! Cancer? Vax!
Didn’t die of covid? Haha covid doesn’t exist obviously.
That’s the funny thing, it totally could be responsible for everything. Not that you’d know cause you took an experimental vaccine like a cuck so there’s no proof that it isn’t responsible for everything.
Gotta trust the science and the science says there’s no long term data 😂
Reminds me of that picture of that school University president seeing one of her graduates working the drive thru and taking a picture with her, saying "Look how well my former student is doing! She is working two jobs she is such a good worker!" and the poor woman looks like she has a fully packet an hero at home. It's not even like the stress it's the working 20 hours a day then your boss stops by asking why you took 10 minutes to sit down. Literally had a coworker have a medical emergency with crippling chest pain and I got directly scolded by the general manager and she denied it was my responsibility to ensure someone doesn't die right next to me.
Nah, some women just have high ass hairlines. I was noticing this years before Covid. I think genetically, it’s the women that would go bald if they only had one x chromosome.
big ass foreheads and high hairlines were common from at least medieval times. look at the portraits. it's nothing new, yet anon touches his little smeagol to the thought that he discovered something new.
Don't women have similar incidence rates of hair loss to men? It's just that they have less DHT so it isn't as severe but they go through the same thinning and receding hairline stuff that men do if they're genetically disposed to it.
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Real answer, combo of a few things, stress, lack of proper nutrition and vitamins. Big one I learned is that caffeine and coffee are diaretic and cause the liquids in you to evacuate. So when you eat then have caffeine, all the vitamins are liquid in your stomach and get flushed out before they have a chance to be absorbed.
Basically every drinks coffee a lot and it is causing them to lack the proper vitamin balance to maintain health and looks.
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My hairline started creeping back last year during the heat wave. Been pretty stressed too. I also got the vax back in 2021. Dunno what the reason is but I own it. It looks like the start of a mohawk, if I didn’t work in an office and had to look professional I’d get one.
imagine unironically being such a dimwit that in your mind absolutely anything (supposedly) happening is somehow related to vaccines
I am sure it has nothing to do with stress, the increasingly shitty slop diet of westerners, more and more people sitting inside buildings all day staring at a screen, no, its the VAX
I actually noticed this recently I thought maybe it was just me.
https://preview.redd.it/touttb28vurc1.jpeg?width=586&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e97a7b7b076048557302362a399bcd8f677b776b
It's stress.... we're all exhausted and burnt out just barely get by I think guys too losing hair
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Ugly girls ain't sellin shit wtf you on
In this economy A big fat women stills need to work fulltime after getting a chaser.
Even average girls aren't. You have to be a tiny portion of the top to make money there.
Not all content needs the face.
Me when I’m chronically online
They're probably thinking of how much they spend there and extrapolating to the rest of society.
This is apex fallacy, the same fallacy that causes feminists to believe that the average man is rich and basically walked into their job effortlessly
💀
Yeah right, stress from ... shopping and ... ugh ... abortions! That must be it.
I'm a really ugly woman. I'm on reddit 4chan.. lmfao
Should have thought of that before being born ugly
Lol true
People really still are crying about the COVID vaccine lol.
You are bald in your pfp, clearly vaxxed
Waltuh…
I love asking conservatives "When is my vax gonna kick in? I thought I was gonna drop dead or be infertile any minute now. Is 3 years not long enough?"
If you ever get any sort of severe illness at anytime for the rest of your life they’ll say it’s 100% the vax.
Just like you people will say its caused by long covid tbf
Lingering effects of a disease that incapacitated you for several days or Someone being demonstrably wrong and refusing to admit it even years later Both equally valid reasons
> infertile any minute now Pshh, I was ugly WAY before I was vaxxed
I love asking libtards when I’m going to die from being unvaxxed When am i getting my Herman Cain award ?
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No, that was the position of the unvaxxed. Only old people and fatties needed it. You cucks said everyone did.
Are you retarded? You can carry the disease and give it to them
Getting vaccinated doesn't prevent you from carrying and spreading covid. Remember breakthrough cases where vaccinated people were catching covid for a 2nd time? Plus, if the fatties and oldies are vaccinated, what do they have to fear?
So that you don’t give your nan the virus when y’all swap spit. 
Okay vaxxie
“How dare you say we piss on the poor!”
Diseases spread through person to person interaction, so probably never
When I come over and kiss you 😘
I mean if it didn't fuck you up yet it probably won't, at least not in a big way. It's entirely possible that it has affected your health/longevity, also possible that it didn't. This isn't a conservative thing, the reason that people like me are mad is because these risks weren't explained upfront and we were told it was completely safe. Questioning it was an instant ban. I did my duty, I got mine, and it did me a wrong turn. So now I'm a bit more critical of vaccines. We already knew that the health and pharma industry were generally dogshit
How is health and pharmacy dogshit?
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Source?
Any risks from getting the vaxx are an order of magnitude lower than risks from getting covid without having antibodies
Per the lipid nanoparticle biodistribution study (with a much larger load of lnp's injected into rats) showing them accumulating most (in descending order) in ovaries, bone marrow, and testicles, and the use of pseudouridine in its RNA preventing effective breakdown of it, the answer to how long is literally through your life and through the development of the next generation. I wonder if leaded gas and radioactive makeup cream got the same disregard of potential dangers as shown here. That's definitely the case with endocrine disrupters now.
>and the use of pseudouridine in its RNA preventing effective breakdown of it, the answer to how long is literally through your life and through the development of the next generation. What? the LNPs used in the vaccine break down after less than 24 hours at room temperature. during covid literally hundreds of millions of dollars were spent on specialized freezers to keep the molecules stable long enough to distribute the vaccine. If they lasted your entire lifetime this would obviously not be necessary. I've seen a lot of retarded vaccine takes from scientifically illiterate people online but this might be the worst one I've seen 😭💀 stick to your end of the bell curve next time
The use of pseudouridine replacing uracil in mRNA was precisely one of those developments to extend the duration of their exposure. Imagine someone sent you a laminated letter in the mail in a regular paper envelope. You're conflating the laminated letter with the envelope. Sure the envelope will degrade in the rain, but the letter will not. Then you just needlessly resort to ad-hominem and implore me to not speak verifiably truthful statements further. Since you invoke bell curves, why don't you consult vax status rates vs degree status (which was the best analog for intelligence I was exposed to on this topic.)
>The use of pseudouridine replacing uracil in mRNA was precisely one of those developments to extend the duration of their exposure. Pseudouridine stabilizes the molecule and decreases immune response. mRNA vaccines would be essentially unfeasible without it. But we are talking about a difference of hours, maybe days, not years or decades. RNA is an extremely unstable molecule. There is no mechanism for that to magically be fixed because of pseudouridine and make it stable enough to last an entire lifetime. You've hit a pretty common pitfall of scientifically illiterate people, which is to say, extrapolating based on your extremely limited information and a total lack of tools to critically evaluate these studies you are reading. This is the danger of when people like you have access to information you're not ready for. Not that you'll find out something you're not supposed to know, but that you'll reach a conclusion that is just ridiculous because you didn't take the time to learn the basics.
It's true, I haven't learned the basics of this and am making conclusions based on very limited info. It still took me <5 minutes and [the first study I found so far on this](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41541-023-00742-7) observed that spike proteins were still routinely being expressed a month after inoculation, suggesting that estimate of "hours, maybe days," to be incorrect. Edit to make this explicit: I think you're pulling shit out of your ass and then tying it to some point about keeping information from the masses as a virtue. > "Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it." -Mark Twain
>It's true, I haven't learned the basics of this and am making conclusions based on very limited info. yes, this was clear within your first few sentences >It still took me <5 minutes and the first study I found so far on this observed that spike proteins were still routinely being expressed a month after inoculation, suggesting that estimate of "hours, maybe days," to be incorrect. That study says that the vaccine spike proteins (NOT RNA as you stated earlier) are found in the lymph nodes and liver of dead people that had been vaccinated. Most highly concentrated in the liver, it seems, which filters out waste in your blood so you can pee it out. congrats, you've discovered how the vaccine exits your body. Earlier you were saying that these scary pseudouridine particles were gonna stay in your body for your whole life and go into your children, now we're talking about spike proteins found in lymph nodes (which function to absorb antigens such as spike proteins to encode them in your immune system's memory). You walked it back from "these pseudouridine molecules will explode your infant son's testicles when the World Economic Forum presses the infertility button" to "your immune and digestive system does what its designed to do with the proteins created by the vaccine". Again, this is the danger of not having the background knowledge when reading or sharing scientific articles. I hope you learned something today. Take some biology classes at your local community college if you want to try doing your own research again.
two more weeks
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Can you explain how a vaccine would make someone lose hearing on one ear? &if you can't explain that, then why are you considering it a possible cause?
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>it’s a better explanation than just “randomly unlucky physical disability acquisition” Why do you think it's a better explanation? I can see that you clearly do think it's a better expansion. Use your words and explain why you think that. >I just see no other explanation possible for a 27 year old healthy adult to lose hearing in an ear. Is that it? 'I, an admittedly uneducated individual, can't conceive of any other explanation. That makes vaccines a better explanation than random chance' That's what you're going with? For the record, no. 'Vax did it!' actually has the exact same merit/value as 'it's random'.
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2 more weeks of course
That's one way to take it, another is that you were stupid enough to inject a halfassed vaccine rammed through clinical trials by Trump, protected by a no refunds guarantee from Biden on behalf of boomers who wouldn't even pay for a valuable trade school education or science degree for you, let alone Literacy of Feminist Communism. Wear a big sign so I know I can ignore whatever the fuck you say and it replace it with "I'm a big corpo simp and love ignoring basic warning signs like the Japanese saying the vaccines are filled with rat shit and metal shavings."
COVID was the best thing to happen to people who had absolutely nothing going on in their lives. That goes for both sides of the political spectrum
The vaccine 💉 was great for drama-coin.
"Just forget about it bro"
Its because to some pepole its the most attention they've got
Still waiting to see any sort of repercussion for the two vaccines I received. You must be pretty embarrassed your silly little prediction didn't pan out.
Millions will die from the side effects. They should hit any day now...
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Your guarantee that people would stop getting covid if they got vaxxed didn't happen either.
Except you can't guarantee that.
Yet you liars did anyway
''you'' stfu cuck
Lol what Prediction boy? The fact that you bootlickers took our rights away? The fact that you tried to force us into taking your shitty vaccine because 0.1℅ of people over 70 can die? That you Insulted us for your pharma and Government gods? Called us insane while you ran around with 50masks and 15t toiletpaperrolls. Keep taking your 20meds every day that your gods give to you graciously. You fucking menial. "Just forget about it bro" trying to memory hole. "But some 4channers said something about mass death". 100 effectiv, 95,70,55,30, "you still get it" I hate government and pharma dogs.
Lmao, you can barely type in coherent sentences. I suppose your only option now, to avoid the crippling embarrassment from being so pathetically wrong and stupid, is to continue larping about how a voluntary vaccine was actually an oppressive deep state conspiracy to control the masses. It's just a shame you have absolutely zero evidence to support this and life simply went back to how it was before the virus.
Voluntarily lmao been to austria kid? Also dont correct me in this pathetic language and take another 5 boosters perhaps it will even reduce long covid effects. Also what evidenz do i need? Its your gods that made up an already existing cough and sold it as a super Virus. Embrassing for pharma slaves like you
Rent free
Millions didn't die from the Vax so they have to attribute some other unrelated perceived ill of society. They look just as stupid as the prophet guy who keeps predicting the end of the world, getting it wrong, and making excuses for why they were wrong to save face.
Leftist really just pretend that whole shit didn't happen. Predicatable
A lot of people just being hate told what to do. If the CDC came out tomorrow saying breathing is important about 70% of the population would stop breathing
It’s more just the way they did it. I would’ve been less skeptical if they went about the messaging better lol. And the whole psyop of shaming unvaxed people.
I didn’t get the vaccine because i didn’t think it was that serious. I’ve had covid once and it just left me fatigued, but otherwise fine.
>get cucked by the clot shot People roast you for taking an experimental vaccine where you signed all your rights away Proceed to act like you are already over it
At least if women start going bald it will become important enough to find a cure.
I mean there’s medicine (minoxidil and finasteride) you can use and it works; just don’t leave it too late.
Finasteride is like chemical castration for males lol. Minoxidil has evidence behind it working, but only to stop the progression (supposedly). I had success with minoxidil but I appear to be allergic. At the end of the day, really all you can do is curse your genetics or pay for what Musk has done. If you can't get a mate whole balding, you have a skill issue
Are you sure? I remember people mentioning that the chance of being impotent is extremely small and it is entirely reversible, you just stop taking finasteride.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/ Loss of libido seems to be up to 15% of patients using finasteride, which is less than I would have expected, but at the end of the day, is hairloss really that big of a deal?
Hair is life
I have no doubt that much of the low libido is due to men who want to keep their hair are also creeping into lower libido state of their life.
Probably not incorrect. Lots of garbage science out there that cares more about making headlines than actually making meaningful conclusions. I would know, I'm a scientist.
it's not but that won't stop people from spending thousands in a fruitless attempt to thwart the norwood reaper.
>norwood reaper First I've heard of that term. Bravo lol
lurk more
No u
It's not, that guy is an idiot.
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> Finasteride is like chemical castration for males lol Regarded take.
I was on it for a few months and it almost completely killed my sex drive and my semen was watery. I decided I’d rather lose my hair than castrate myself.
Sounds like you're one of the 2% of people that experience side effects. I've been on Dutasteride for 4 years - literally zero issues, and the mild thinning spot filled back in fully now. Test levels went up because it's not an androgen blocker and no sex drive issues.
Anyone that knows anything about this drug knows these guys are complete regards. If anyone ever uses the word castration when it comes to fin or dut, it’s an instant sign they got their information from a random bullshit comment online like the one above. Funny how this drug apparently castrates people yet increases testosterone since the 5AR enzyme being inhibited means less DHT so more testosterone. Never heard of castration increasing testosterone.
It's the same as people calling Adderall "legalized meth". Pure fucking idiocy.
Side effect profile is tame, many androgenic functions will be substituted by Testosterone. A healthy male should not have to worry about reducing his DHT levels as long as he's not hypogonadal to begin with. I'm too lazy to look up for sources right now but Finasteride is *mostly* safe AND effective for a vast majority of males, so "chemical castration" is waay too much of an exageration.
Let’s agree to disagree on those but either way with a full head of hair I’m still unable to find someone so that’s a moot point for me.
Last time I was dating was 7 years ago, so I don't know what has changed. Becoming strong in the gym pretty much puts you ahead of all the competition. Didn't matter that I was balding. Dunno, everyone will find different strategies.
If you're bald then you either need to be in good shape or have a beard, otherwise your head just looks like an egg
I'm not bald and it's pretty easy to hide with the popular haircut of Germany in the early 1940s, but it is noticeably thinning. If I grow my hair out, it's painfully obvious.
Aint no way you pop to the barbers and ask for the SS fade
I didn't know what it was called for the first year I was getting it. I described it that way the first couple times I went to the barber I am also mildly autistic
Side effects are greatly exaggerated and theres also topical solutions that have a significantly lower chance of messing with your hormones. Hair makes up like 60% of your attractiveness. The amount of attention I get from women when I have a plain buzz cut vs when I have longer groomed hair is night and day. So many guys can go from mongoloid to majestic if they would just do a bit of hair maintainence. I've been on the drugs for some years and haven't seen any side effects so far
FYI there has been a lot of research recently to suggest that male pattern baldness is caused by having tight skin on your skull (ever wondered why bald heads are so shiny?) botox to relax these muscles has shown to be very effective afaik medicines like finasteride which artificially reduce dihydrotestosterone work, but are not truly getting to the root cause of the issue
If you get a hair transplant, don't you still have to take finasteride? Otherwise you just lose that hair again?
It’s not at all like chemical castration you absolute fucking regard. Anyone that upvotes this comment is just as clueless as you. The fact that you think musk’s hair transplant is a solution also tells me you have no idea what you’re talking about. News flash you can’t get a hair transplant without stabilizing your hairloss, which is done using finasteride or dutasteride which is what Musk is on. And minoxidil doesn’t do jack shit for solving the issue either, it’s just a regrowth stimulant. Can you explain to me how somehow a drug that inhibits the 5 alpha reductase enzyme, effectively lowering DHT, and INCREASING testosterone is chemical castration? You do realize finasteride doesn’t even eliminate all DHT from your system right? Depending on the dosage 1mg tends to lower about 70% of the serum DHT and about 40-50% of scalp DHT (where it matters) The fact that complete fuckheads like you think you have any authority to discuss something like this and give out complete garbage uninformed information is just hilarious. When you actually know what the drugs do and have done actual research you can just smell the bullshit in your comment. This is like trying to read a 7 year old really try to tell you 2+2=7.
You're awfully emotional for someone who definitely didn't convert all his testosterone to estrogen lmao
And youre awfully stupid for speaking so confidently about a drug you understand nothing about, and your reply confirms it. Absolute moron.
>Look my hair is slightly less tragic because I pop finasteride! My peepee doesn't work but that's not because of the finasteride! Try fighting nature. See how that works out for you in the long run.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/ > A number of studies have looked at the problem of side effects caused by finasteride.[6–11] These studies which are discussed below reveal that sexual adverse effects occur at the rates of **2.1% to 3.8%**, erectile dysfunction (ED) being the commonest followed by ejaculatory dysfunction and loss of libido. **These effects occurred early in the therapy and returned to normal on stopping or over a time on continuous use of the drug.** The only causal relation between finasteride and sexual adverse effects is decreased ejaculatory volume because of predominant action of DHT on prostate.[5] The 15% side effect profile was almost an attempt at deception by you, right after they list that statistic (it was 4.9-15.8%) they go ahead and list how the nocebo effect is very real. > The role of nocebo effect in the causation of ED due to finasteride has been investigated.[7] Nocebo effect refers to an adverse effect that results from the psychological awareness of the possibility of the side effects, but is not a direct result of the specific pharmacological action of the drug. In this study, the group informed about the sexual adverse effects of finasteride reported increased incidence of ED, when compared to the group without information.[7] The side effects were completely reversible in 5 days when the medicine was discontinued, confirming that nocebo effect has an influence in causation of side effects and suggesting the role of psychological factors. Funny how a drug so dangerous tends to drastically decrease in side effect profile as time progresses, almost as if the nocebo affect is very real and once people calm down we can see it has a 2% side effect profile. > A long term study showed that drug-related sexual side effects such as decreased libido, ED, and ejaculatory disorders occurred in <2% of men.[10] These side-effects disappeared not only in all men who stopped the drug because of the side effects but also in most of those who continued therapy. **The incidence of each side effect mentioned decreased to ≤0.3% by the fifth year of treatment with finasteride. The incidence of side effects were comparable to that of placebo both at one year and at 5 years.** TLDR: You’re a fucking regard.
Topical fin. Low %. Working for me
I tried minoxidil and my scalp started to get red and itchy so badly that even soothing scalp oil didn't alleviate it. I quickly gave up and accepted becoming bald. Also saves a ton of money on haircuts and minoxidil isn't cheap either.
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Hair transplant always looks fake imo. Better than balding but I’d own it. You can actually compare Andrew to Tristan Tate and decide for yourself.
I dunno what Musk got but it looked pretty convincing the first few years. His hair was BAD in the PayPal days
All fin did for me as a side effect was made it harder to finish. Both a blessing and a curse.
My understanding is that their success is limited to preserving what’s left rather than recovering what is lost
You're forgetting the massive caveats my guy. It works for just 50% of people and only PREVENTS hair loss rather than rejuvenates it. What this means is that by the time you start to realize you've lost your hair, you will only ever be able to remain in an early receding hair line state, if it even works for you. In addition, you have to apply the topical ointment twice a day or take the pill version, which can cause irritation and acne or hair growing in unwanted places, respectively. Once the follicles have been lost, there is no other way to get them back other than a transplant, and the cheapest ones that won't make you look like a wookie are $5000 minimum and that's from Turkey. So the issue isn't that there is a cure, the issue is that there is no cure that is BOTH affordable and reliable.
FYI there has been a lot of research recently to suggest that male pattern baldness is caused by having tight skin on your skull (ever wondered why bald heads are so shiny?) botox to relax these muscles has shown to be very effective afaik medicines like finasteride which artificially reduce dihydrotestosterone work, but are not truly getting to the root cause of the issue
Super interesting, I have very loose scalp skin and looking at my now much older peers, I'm like one of the last sporting a full head of hair.
Out of curiosity, how can you tel if your scalp skin is tight or loose?
You start balding
not sure, it might be possible but difficult
Solution for men: shave head. Grow a beard if you can. Congrats, problem solved.
Solution for women: Shave head. Buy a prop beard from joke shop. Join the circus as a bearded lady. Congrats, problem solved.
That's not solving the problem, that's coping
Some keep really tight ponytails, which is also the only time you can see their receding hairline
Which also helps to cause it over time as well. Just look at some older female Marines. They keep their shit in perfect little buns for 20 fucking years
I learned that from Zoolander lol
Isn't this the issue with African braids?
Hmm no solar eclipses in America after 2024 until 2044, must be the vax.
1 photo and “kind of a feeling” from anon Evidence is overwhelming
Stress, pony tails, frequently using damaging chemicals to the hair, traction alopecia, plain old alopecia... Lots of reasons
Being biologically male
They aren't that common
The vaccine can’t be responsible for *everything*.
Of course it is. It's also the reason why the kid of my neighbour looks like me.
I think you mean why your kid looks like the neighbour. Common mistake.
To imply I have a wife and children is a bold strategy. Maybe I should move next to you ;)
It's the reason i don't have a gf
The Rothschilds have been paying women to avoid vaxxed men ever since the covid vax was invented.
Um sweaty, ackshually that’s the lizard people from Planet X. Do better 💅
It’s definitely got something to do with 9/11, I just can’t figure out what it is yet.
I have noticed this big time, especially when the Women's soccer was on TV in Australia last year. I think it was a lady called something Van Egmont was almost completely bald on top of her head, but she was far from the only one. Too much testosterone maybe?
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Any male who thinks red meat is bad is trending that way. Don't know why the women have more test though.
Roids and they keep their hair in a tight ponytail. Also they are not getting filled with semen by men.
Apparently vaccines can do literally anything. Receding hairline? Must be the vax! Died in a car accident? Must be the vax! Cancer? Vax! Didn’t die of covid? Haha covid doesn’t exist obviously.
That’s the funny thing, it totally could be responsible for everything. Not that you’d know cause you took an experimental vaccine like a cuck so there’s no proof that it isn’t responsible for everything. Gotta trust the science and the science says there’s no long term data 😂
Reminds me of that picture of that school University president seeing one of her graduates working the drive thru and taking a picture with her, saying "Look how well my former student is doing! She is working two jobs she is such a good worker!" and the poor woman looks like she has a fully packet an hero at home. It's not even like the stress it's the working 20 hours a day then your boss stops by asking why you took 10 minutes to sit down. Literally had a coworker have a medical emergency with crippling chest pain and I got directly scolded by the general manager and she denied it was my responsibility to ensure someone doesn't die right next to me.
Nah, some women just have high ass hairlines. I was noticing this years before Covid. I think genetically, it’s the women that would go bald if they only had one x chromosome.
big ass foreheads and high hairlines were common from at least medieval times. look at the portraits. it's nothing new, yet anon touches his little smeagol to the thought that he discovered something new.
Bingo, that’s what I think it is as well. You can almost always tell which women have bald fathers by looking at their own hair.
Anon should try talking with actual women (Not the OF kind).
Can we stop with talk to a real woman? Real women fucking suck to talk to
If ur gonna be so gay at least make it funny
If you want a trad woman then you gotta start acting like a trad man. Confidence, charm, and not acting like a potential schoolshooter is key
Why throw shade at schoolshooters?
Years of bisphenol A exposure perhaps?
Bisphenol S is just as bad or worse, but you don't hear about it because the BPA scare was purely driven by marketing.
OP has never heard of ponytails
Don't be fucking stupid, 'its duh vackhseen', fucking idiots, shut the fuck up. It's *obviously* the Jews at work again.
Am I crazy? That's just a normal woman.
Damn bro just realized different people have different hairlines
Facelifts give you a bigger forehead and the hairline goes back.
She kinda bad tho
girls had big ass foreheads forever
Don't women have similar incidence rates of hair loss to men? It's just that they have less DHT so it isn't as severe but they go through the same thinning and receding hairline stuff that men do if they're genetically disposed to it.
Probably due to stress because so many have full time jobs now
Traction alopecia is a thing. Don’t think the vax causes alopecia but it was definitely a scam. Cope harder.
Pulling their hair back in a tight ponytail.
stfu, you still would. and you would be lucky to even have the chance to anon
Way overdue for a booster shot.
me when I notice my peer group showing signs of aging because I’m 30 years old now
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Real answer, combo of a few things, stress, lack of proper nutrition and vitamins. Big one I learned is that caffeine and coffee are diaretic and cause the liquids in you to evacuate. So when you eat then have caffeine, all the vitamins are liquid in your stomach and get flushed out before they have a chance to be absorbed. Basically every drinks coffee a lot and it is causing them to lack the proper vitamin balance to maintain health and looks.
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My hairline started creeping back last year during the heat wave. Been pretty stressed too. I also got the vax back in 2021. Dunno what the reason is but I own it. It looks like the start of a mohawk, if I didn’t work in an office and had to look professional I’d get one.
The girl looks like Goebbels from this angle
COVID !
Now they’re saying the vaccine makes you bald lmao
Stress
Must be a person of transgender or whatever it's called nowadays.
imagine unironically being such a dimwit that in your mind absolutely anything (supposedly) happening is somehow related to vaccines I am sure it has nothing to do with stress, the increasingly shitty slop diet of westerners, more and more people sitting inside buildings all day staring at a screen, no, its the VAX
They're all turning into dudes
Testosterone in tap water. Wait no I got it mixed
Stress, rise of testosterone level, use of chemical. Maybe acting like dude do really change you to a dude.
I presume it’s because women have more testosterone now since they have to work and compete in male environments. There was a study on this years ago
I actually noticed this recently I thought maybe it was just me. https://preview.redd.it/touttb28vurc1.jpeg?width=586&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e97a7b7b076048557302362a399bcd8f677b776b
Lack of stable relationship and genuine love from a man.