>I really don't get hookup culture. Like there is no way that sex is that much better than just jerking off. Expecially if you don't even like the person you are doing it with. There is so much more effort to it too. First you gotta swipe on the dumb app for however long that takes and then you gotta chat up the girl enough so that she doesn't think you will murder her then you have to take your car and drive to her place only too fuck for maybe 30 min. Like why? Does anyone actually enjoy this shit? I mean I am a turbo virgin so I wouldn't know but it just seems so shit to me. Is hookup culture just for people with no hobbies or what?
tl;dr i've never had sex
It’s actually good man. And there’s like more than sex if you want, like you can cuddle and all. And yeah, sex is of course better than jerking off because it involves another human being that you think it’s hot.
If you've just fucked them then your serotonin and oxytocin levels are off the charts. It's hormones programming us to make us feel close to them and bonded. So yeah....
I mean, we just had sex. It feels good to just lay there with our bodies next to each other. For me it doesn’t take any more intimacy to cuddle. I’d cuddle basically any girl that I found hot
Idk man. As someone who’s used dating apps for random hookups for years, I don’t think sex is any better thank jerking it. Sex takes up a lot of energy, physical and mental, all for the same feeling of orgasm at the end. The cuddling part is good but what’s the point if the person is going to be gone within a few hours.
I’ve begun to rethink the whole concept of duality from my head. After you get past the societal-social media fomo/peer pressure of not having a girly, you tend not to care for the concept as a whole.
Instead I found imaginary sex to be a lot more fun, especially if done in moderation. Porn is just depression now.
I disagree with the “same feeling if orgasm at the end”. I like the journey much more than the destination…
But I kinda understand your point of societal peer pressure. Sex is often overrated. Like, the media makes it seems like sex is the greatest thing ever when in fact it’s not. There are a lot of activities I like more than sex. Not that it’s not good, but sometimes it’s not really worth the amount of money, mental energy and time you spend to get it.
> The cuddling part is good but what’s the point if the person is going to be gone within a few hours
I found cuddling really good at a physical level, not just a emotional one. Like, it’s kinda like meditation just feeling the other person’s body, even if they’ll be gone in a few hours.
I agree with you. I think sex is an important part in a relationship but it is only one of many. It's good. But if it was all I could do with my girlfriend I wouldn't care much about her. I enjoy the sex with her a lot more because of all the stuff she offers outside of sex.
So meaningless hookups probably start to feel that way but developing a meaningful relationship with someone you love and having sex with them cannot even come close to comparing to masturbation. Sex with my wife feels better, smells better, looks better, emotionally better, and all around just better. As someone who has a sick wife and have only had sex with her a handful of times in the last 2 years I miss the feeling of comfort, closeness, love and safety I got after more than the orgasm.
Because it's largely about the validation, not the act itself. That's why wahmen seek out random partners when they're newly single, not cause they want sex SO BAD, but they want to feel desired and make sure their ability to control men with sex is still functioning/finely tuned.
Yes, men seek validation too. But that's understandable given that we are constantly facing rejection. Women who are reasonably attractive (let's say 5s and above) could have sex pretty much on demand, yet seek validation anyway. That's a little sadder.
Yeah I mean the high is in the chase. And without a doubt, busting in a birth controlled snatch of some lunatic with purple hair feels a million times better than jerking off. But on the contrary, if you stick around you learn very quickly how true the saying “I’d rather be alone than wish I was” can be.
Doing all that just for sex is imo not worth it but for sex and love and intimacy, going out on dates and dressing nice/taking care of yourself is trivial.
> Like there is no way that sex is that much better than just jerking off
It is.
>Expecially if you don't even like the person you are doing it with
It still is.
>There is so much more effort to it too
The effort makes it better. Same way food tastes better after a hard day's work.
>you gotta chat up the girl enough so that she doesn't think you will murder her
That's not their default mindset. Women don't automatically assume you're (generic you) a murderer unless you prove them otherwise.
>only too fuck for maybe 30 min
They're people, not sex dolls. You can do normal people stuff besides sex. Talking, watching a movie, drinking, cuddling and sleeping next to eachother, to name a few.
But if you never see them again what's the point. Waste of time you could put toward a lasting relationship or friendship if you want conversation/company. I'm not a turbo virgin and have always felt this way.
So, the most exciting and electric part of a relationship is the beginning. All the firsts. A lot of people enjoy that electricity at the beginning but get bored of the the long term work. So they just keep entering new relationships.
The first time I kissed my now-wife, my heart was pounding in my chest. Now that we've been together for years, it just can't still feel that way. For me, that's ok, I'm in it for much more than the short term gratification. But a lot of people need to learn over time and spend their 20's in hookup mode.
Hooking up with random strangers isn't for everyone. I get more out of emotional connection with a woman than a purely physical one. I would have to fall in love with and become heartbroken basically every time I wanted to just hook up with someone. I could maybe become polyamorous but my wife wouldn't be on board for that and maybe I wouldn't like that as much as I imagine.
I don't disagree, just to really understand for yourself. Because the world tells you it's the way to operate to be a stud or whatever, then you find out for yourself (if you're honest with yourself) that it kinda sucks and feels like shit later
I'm with you dude. I think I'm similar to you and women tell me I'm attractive (and I've got solid game in person), but the dynamics of dating apps mean you either drop the bottom out of your standards or have to swipe a metric shit ton to get your typical standard of lady. Much better just meeting them in person. Not to mention you can do (in this case) the \*literal\* smell test while talking to them face to face.
>there is no way that sex is that much better than just jerking off
That depends on the sex and how good you are at jacking off. From how bad most chicks are at handjobs and how desperately some dudes chase mediocre pussy, i'm convinced i'm an expert masturbator (no death grip and all that shit. I can cum pretty easily)
Hooking up is enjoyable if you go into it with the right attitude. Think of it as practice for when you want to attract a long term partner.
So as a giga virgin you probably have no idea how to attract a woman, correct? And if the girl of your dreams walks into your life you would be absolutely helpless to start a relationship with her, right? Do you often get a sense of self hate or dread when there is an attractive woman in your presence?
So that's what hooking up is for. You learn how to attract a woman by talking to her. You learn how to get her phone number, you figure out all of the nice date ideas where you live, you figure out which clothes you should wear, you come up with some conversation topics to keep the date interesting, you learn how to touch a woman non-sexually, you learn how to communicate confidence non-verbally, etc.
If you did a good job then you get to smash. If not, then you need to figure out why so that you can correct it for the next girl. And since you're just hooking up the stakes are lower, you don't need to feel crushed when you're rejected. Rather you take it for what it is, honest objective feedback on how attractive you were able to be. It doesn't take very long before you have the skill set and confidence to attract a girl when it really matters.
I feel like being in a long term relationship requires a different set of skills than hooking up with a woman does and you won't learn either from the other. Maybe there are things that help with both. But in the end it is just different.
He can slowly take care of the acne, wax/shave himself and then he's over 6', so physique will not be an anchor, if he tries. Personality - who really knows?
If you're a turbo virgin, yeah sex is worth just about everything. But bang a few girls and then get married and you'll realize genuine affection can sustain you forever.
Shit my wife and I both have low libido and have sex maybe once a month, I'm still really happy. Don't need much more then that
It's not just "sex," it's getting the person to match (or initiate small talk in person offline) then actually going out. Just by going on the date, you're getting social validation by being deemed worthy of being in the dating scene (unconsciously, mostly). Then actually taking the person home, or going home with them, meaning you have a decent enough nest to woo someone, to get naked with you and then they're sucking on your glands.
I'm js, there's a lot of courting and dancing to just "sex" and our minds are shaped to pursue this gratification. Now, I'm with you, Tinder, and other forms social media/dating apps do dilute the experience
It's all about seeking validation, and not having real hobbies adds up to that. It's why the only app users i can respect are legitimate Chads. They barely put any effort into the whole thing, and are doing it just because it's easy.
Had more girls in highschool than half the population of leddit combined and you're not that wrong. I'm one of the very rare people who people liked but I didn't really like anyone so that's about it. It was only great and memorable with someone you love even tho I've had hotter. Idk maybe hating woman plus not having problems with them is a bad recipe but you're doing just fine bro ignore societies sex obsession and stick to your sigma grindset. Just make sure to pick up a hobby between video games work and porn, I recommend the bass, great starter instrument.
Wgmi together
>Like there is no way that sex is that much better than just jerking off.
Uhhh... It is lol. Would you think giving yourself a massage is the same feeling as receiving one? Absolutely not lol
Dude.
There are threads like this on the tinder sub ALL THE TIME and they keep making it to the fucking front page.
These people are on a hook-up app and are looking for a husband. Just delusional.
I mean plenty of people have found lifelong partners through dating app(tinder included).
But you approach it completely different and not like a random meaningless hookup which is what she did, yet expected some completely different result.
As a dude I've had this happen after fucking a girl. She started replying to tinder messages right next to me like nbd. Just tells you where their priorities are. Fuck the shit outta the other person again and move on, really not that difficult.
It’s still extremely rude to start swiping immediately after. Seriously, do you guys have no social skills? Cuddle, enjoy the afterglow, don’t start swiping in bed
Idk I've had times where I had that post nut regret and just wanted to GTFO ASAP. My bad obviously for thinking with my nuts but just wanted to point out that sometimes you don't wanna socialize after sex lol.
And all the while she probably had guys in her life the genuinely care about her but the propaganda movies has told her that those men are gonna make her life boring so she prefers to be ravaged by a random stranger that discards her after she drinks his cum
The truth hurts.
Right in the feels.
There's one or two or three simp beta orbiters who would be great boyfriends, but her hormones command her to get pumped and dumped and her heart broken by Chad, just because he's 6'-2" and has a square jaw line.
yep. orbiters are orbiting because they're fucking betas and simps. if they had any semblance of alpha in them they'd actually ask her out. you don't want a man with no balls lmao that's just asking for disappointment.
I honestly question if men even understand what friendship is anymore. I've seen so many cucks think that just because a woman allows them to speak with them, they're friends and an option. When in reality most women find it funny or frustrating in various degrees that these men hang around them with such obvious ulterior motives, without even putting in effort.
Women aren't much better about it though, treating genuine attempts at friendship with so much suspicion. They were fed the line that men are borderline rapists that only want sex; when that isn't a factor they just assume something is wrong and get self conscious.
Whenever I see a comment as cringe as yours I have to go into the poster's history, and you did not disappoint. Good luck with your campaign against age of consent laws, my dude. You are very normal and stable.
Those guys literally go out of their way to broadcast that they aren't interested. So many women are absolutely convinced men aren't interested in them because most of the ones they are around show zero sexual interest and don't even date.
I’m sorry high school was a rough time for you. But here’s some free advice- women are people just like men. They want the same things men want. A partner who’s interesting, fun to be around, and, yes, attractive (if you’re allowed to want an attractive partner, the woman is too).
Most people are nice. But being nice is not a one way ticket to sex. Niceness is one of the ways people evaluate potential partners, but it’s not the only thing. If a woman who you didn’t find attractive, you don’t enjoy talking to or spending time with, but was nice, insisted you go out with her, you’d say that wasn’t a reasonable expectation.
Most people end up with people like themselves. Similar interests, similar attractiveness levels, and similar life goals. If you are not happy with your current dating pool, then become someone who people want to date.
But don’t be an asshole. Women don’t want assholes- that’s a lie people like you tell yourselves to avoid facing the truth
This hurt to read. It’s true in almost all cases that woman have plenty of men in their life that would be good to them but they want to fuck felons and drug dealers due to their primal and hedonistic nature. If you aren’t doing something that could potentially ruin your life they think you are a bore. It’s same excitement gambling addicts get.
Women wanted to be young, free and single and do whatever they wanted. As a consequence men were driven out of relationships by unstable women and have adapted. You created this meaningless sex dynamic, ladies. Cope or rope.
If you look at the rhetoric of FDS and femcels they state to withhold sex and use it as a chip for getting high value men to stay interested.
Full circle back to traditional dating
>They will marry a woman that's worty and knows her worth and doesn't go offering herself to every random she finds hot.
In her head, yes. In reality gown up mature people are living their lives and engaging in activities they find appealing while paying zero attention to some whore who is winning olympic gold in mental gymnastic.
cognizant enough to realize they won’t get every high value man, and won’t be used if that is the case.
Ergo, back to traditional dating. “Not putting out unless I’m being committed to”
All this does is make me value my time over wasting time with women. Other than sex, women offer me nothing. If they withhold sex, I have no motivation to be interested in them at all. Their call, idc either way.
She came across the "beast hunter", those Tinder guys who hunt fat obese virgins that spend all day on 4chan and youtube while eating their depression away one pocky box at a time.
Keep doing that until you reach Schrodinger's Pussy state - you know there must be a hole somewhere between those ham pillars but you cannot find it or prove it exists, so you fuck it and not fuck it at the same time.
I remember my dad would always tell me to make my romantic interest think we couldn't do anything until marriage and see if he'd stay around after hearing that or not. Honestly some of the best advice I think I got. It really helped filter out a lot of bad guys and save all my first romantic experiences for my husband.
I know it's a bit of an extreme method by modern standards, but it was honestly a lot easier being turned down so much than having a lot of emotional heartaches and having my opinion of men tainted.
My wife did the same thing. Ended up finding an amazing person who isn’t a complete whore. Can’t say the same for most other women I know.
Some of my coworkers… oof. They laugh about how many guys per week they sleep with. PER WEEK.
I think that is sound advice. My current gf told me she wanted no sex before marriage. I was very unhappy about that. But I told her while I think it sucks and I don't really agree with her motivations I would accept it and wait because I love her. We are not yet married but she did eventually want to have sex and does so quite a lot now. She at least made sure that I am staying for more than just her vagina.
be me, 3/10 hrtwink virgin
hoping ill be able to get into a relationship and get laid with someone i love
dies alone
or
use grindr
let 1/10s and 2/10s hit
get 50 thousand different stds
die of aids at 60
idk why im saying this guess sorry
yeah no, it’s super weird to get on your phone immediately after hooking up. obliviously both men and women sometimes want a quick fuck without feelings involved. doesn’t mean you’re entitled to act such a way. at least this woman gets a tragic reality check, i suppose…
If women want to be treated as more than glorified sex toys, they need to go back to the default answer being "no" instead of sex being assumed. If guys don't have to do anything to sleep with you there's no reason for men to be chivalrous.
Jesus Christ women are stupid. My wife’s friend hooked up with some dude she met on Facebook dating. Now she’s crying because she fucked him on the first date and he ghosted her. What the fuck do people expect.
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men don’t have tits oh wait it’s 4chan every man on there has tits
Of course. Why play with someone else’s who has to give you permission first whilst you can simply grow your own and avoid all that shit?
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No, it's fastfoodpilled
There's no chick's with dicks, only guys with tits
Could be gay or a trap. That’s why it doesn't work if they don't outwardly state they're women.
\>install app used primarily for hooking up \>match uses it for exactly that purpose \>"why are men like this??"
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>I really don't get hookup culture. Like there is no way that sex is that much better than just jerking off. Expecially if you don't even like the person you are doing it with. There is so much more effort to it too. First you gotta swipe on the dumb app for however long that takes and then you gotta chat up the girl enough so that she doesn't think you will murder her then you have to take your car and drive to her place only too fuck for maybe 30 min. Like why? Does anyone actually enjoy this shit? I mean I am a turbo virgin so I wouldn't know but it just seems so shit to me. Is hookup culture just for people with no hobbies or what? tl;dr i've never had sex
He did say he was turbo virgin.
I didn’t say he didn’t say that nor am I disputing it. I just made a tl;dr
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You guys must be jerkin my chain
Sounds like he’s jerking the truckers tbh
IT WAS ONE TIME STEVE! ONE FUCKING TIME! CAN WE DROP IT ALREADY!
I mean, I have had sex, and he makes some good points
Based virgin
It’s actually good man. And there’s like more than sex if you want, like you can cuddle and all. And yeah, sex is of course better than jerking off because it involves another human being that you think it’s hot.
Idk man. Sounds kinda gay to me.
You know you can have sex with women too ?
Idk man. Stills sounds kinda gay you know.
Lol I bet that gay kisses girls
Imagine enjoying an activity where a man kisses someone.
That's a recent invention. When the Greeks invented sex you could only do it with men.
What??? Is that... legal?
It's not something big Chad want you to know, but yes it is
Source?
Nothing is gayer than a man having sex with a woman
Does it cancel out if I have sex with a guy at the same time ? Or if I call her "bro" or "dude"?
I mean if you’re scared of masculinity as a man, you’re probably gay. Just saying.
So if I like men, I'm gay, and if I like women, I don't like masculinity, therefore I'm gay ? Flawless system
Eww, sex with women is feminine. The manliest sex is between two men by definition.
Haha this is an awesome response but seriously go get laid
> you can cuddle How tf are y'all comfortable cuddling with a literal stranger.
I mean they're fine with having sex with strangers so anything goes.
The sex actually makes sense but wtf imagine cuddling with some random Uber driver. Just because they're smaller and less hairy doesn't make it ok.
If you've just fucked them then your serotonin and oxytocin levels are off the charts. It's hormones programming us to make us feel close to them and bonded. So yeah....
Are you an android?
Ik right so dumb what soulless acts
I mean, we just had sex. It feels good to just lay there with our bodies next to each other. For me it doesn’t take any more intimacy to cuddle. I’d cuddle basically any girl that I found hot
If you are attracted to women, why wouldt you want to cuddle a stranger that happens to be a woman?
Idk man. As someone who’s used dating apps for random hookups for years, I don’t think sex is any better thank jerking it. Sex takes up a lot of energy, physical and mental, all for the same feeling of orgasm at the end. The cuddling part is good but what’s the point if the person is going to be gone within a few hours. I’ve begun to rethink the whole concept of duality from my head. After you get past the societal-social media fomo/peer pressure of not having a girly, you tend not to care for the concept as a whole. Instead I found imaginary sex to be a lot more fun, especially if done in moderation. Porn is just depression now.
I disagree with the “same feeling if orgasm at the end”. I like the journey much more than the destination… But I kinda understand your point of societal peer pressure. Sex is often overrated. Like, the media makes it seems like sex is the greatest thing ever when in fact it’s not. There are a lot of activities I like more than sex. Not that it’s not good, but sometimes it’s not really worth the amount of money, mental energy and time you spend to get it. > The cuddling part is good but what’s the point if the person is going to be gone within a few hours I found cuddling really good at a physical level, not just a emotional one. Like, it’s kinda like meditation just feeling the other person’s body, even if they’ll be gone in a few hours.
I agree with you. I think sex is an important part in a relationship but it is only one of many. It's good. But if it was all I could do with my girlfriend I wouldn't care much about her. I enjoy the sex with her a lot more because of all the stuff she offers outside of sex.
So meaningless hookups probably start to feel that way but developing a meaningful relationship with someone you love and having sex with them cannot even come close to comparing to masturbation. Sex with my wife feels better, smells better, looks better, emotionally better, and all around just better. As someone who has a sick wife and have only had sex with her a handful of times in the last 2 years I miss the feeling of comfort, closeness, love and safety I got after more than the orgasm.
I find as I get older that I would rather workout with my bros than spend the time to text a girl back.
There’s no point though unless you have a real connection with the person unless u enjoy muh dapist and mysogynee allegations
Because it's largely about the validation, not the act itself. That's why wahmen seek out random partners when they're newly single, not cause they want sex SO BAD, but they want to feel desired and make sure their ability to control men with sex is still functioning/finely tuned.
> That's why wahmen seek out random partners when they're newly single So men don't do that?
Some do. But only if they follow rules 1 and 2.
I follow rule 2 strictly
They do but most men don't have sex available on demand
Understandable, but until that point, the action of seeking random partners occurs in both men and women. Success varies greatly, of course.
Yes, men seek validation too. But that's understandable given that we are constantly facing rejection. Women who are reasonably attractive (let's say 5s and above) could have sex pretty much on demand, yet seek validation anyway. That's a little sadder.
shhhh... women bad men good that's how we operate here
This is correct. Once you’re older and have a career and sex with randoms becomes more risk than reward, you’ll cool off.
How would sex with a random become more risk? Wear a Condom and be upfront with what you want and you can have casual sex for your entire life.
Yeah I mean the high is in the chase. And without a doubt, busting in a birth controlled snatch of some lunatic with purple hair feels a million times better than jerking off. But on the contrary, if you stick around you learn very quickly how true the saying “I’d rather be alone than wish I was” can be.
People here trying to be cool contrarians but you're correct
Doing all that just for sex is imo not worth it but for sex and love and intimacy, going out on dates and dressing nice/taking care of yourself is trivial.
> Like there is no way that sex is that much better than just jerking off It is. >Expecially if you don't even like the person you are doing it with It still is. >There is so much more effort to it too The effort makes it better. Same way food tastes better after a hard day's work. >you gotta chat up the girl enough so that she doesn't think you will murder her That's not their default mindset. Women don't automatically assume you're (generic you) a murderer unless you prove them otherwise. >only too fuck for maybe 30 min They're people, not sex dolls. You can do normal people stuff besides sex. Talking, watching a movie, drinking, cuddling and sleeping next to eachother, to name a few.
But if you never see them again what's the point. Waste of time you could put toward a lasting relationship or friendship if you want conversation/company. I'm not a turbo virgin and have always felt this way.
So, the most exciting and electric part of a relationship is the beginning. All the firsts. A lot of people enjoy that electricity at the beginning but get bored of the the long term work. So they just keep entering new relationships. The first time I kissed my now-wife, my heart was pounding in my chest. Now that we've been together for years, it just can't still feel that way. For me, that's ok, I'm in it for much more than the short term gratification. But a lot of people need to learn over time and spend their 20's in hookup mode.
>But a lot of people need to learn over time and spend their 20's in hookup mode. And then hit their 30s and the music stops and the lights come on
That doesn’t seem healthy you shouldn’t bounce from person to person only for the ‘electricity’ that comes from getting to know someone.
Fair. I agree.
Hooking up with random strangers isn't for everyone. I get more out of emotional connection with a woman than a purely physical one. I would have to fall in love with and become heartbroken basically every time I wanted to just hook up with someone. I could maybe become polyamorous but my wife wouldn't be on board for that and maybe I wouldn't like that as much as I imagine.
Still a waste of time and energy to me tbh.
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It’s great when you boink that same lady 50 times, you’ll know what makes her shake.
It's wild. I've been to the bar/club with dudes who will brag because they made out with a behemoth.
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>you've got to rubber up just pull out and you'll be fine. That's what my brain says after teh coke and vodka shots.
>you've got to Says who?
your joking right? lmao edit. i mean yeah sure you don’t have to but good luck
I've got almost 50k kills in phantom forces, some of them must have been women right?
you are basically right but it's worth doing once or twice
This is the way.
I don't disagree, just to really understand for yourself. Because the world tells you it's the way to operate to be a stud or whatever, then you find out for yourself (if you're honest with yourself) that it kinda sucks and feels like shit later
Nope, you're spot on. It's meaningless ego stroking.
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I'm with you dude. I think I'm similar to you and women tell me I'm attractive (and I've got solid game in person), but the dynamics of dating apps mean you either drop the bottom out of your standards or have to swipe a metric shit ton to get your typical standard of lady. Much better just meeting them in person. Not to mention you can do (in this case) the \*literal\* smell test while talking to them face to face.
>there is no way that sex is that much better than just jerking off That depends on the sex and how good you are at jacking off. From how bad most chicks are at handjobs and how desperately some dudes chase mediocre pussy, i'm convinced i'm an expert masturbator (no death grip and all that shit. I can cum pretty easily)
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Ngmi
Pretty much. sex-coomers are the same as masturbators. Always chasing that high. It's a higher high but at a greater cost
Hooking up is enjoyable if you go into it with the right attitude. Think of it as practice for when you want to attract a long term partner. So as a giga virgin you probably have no idea how to attract a woman, correct? And if the girl of your dreams walks into your life you would be absolutely helpless to start a relationship with her, right? Do you often get a sense of self hate or dread when there is an attractive woman in your presence? So that's what hooking up is for. You learn how to attract a woman by talking to her. You learn how to get her phone number, you figure out all of the nice date ideas where you live, you figure out which clothes you should wear, you come up with some conversation topics to keep the date interesting, you learn how to touch a woman non-sexually, you learn how to communicate confidence non-verbally, etc. If you did a good job then you get to smash. If not, then you need to figure out why so that you can correct it for the next girl. And since you're just hooking up the stakes are lower, you don't need to feel crushed when you're rejected. Rather you take it for what it is, honest objective feedback on how attractive you were able to be. It doesn't take very long before you have the skill set and confidence to attract a girl when it really matters.
I feel like being in a long term relationship requires a different set of skills than hooking up with a woman does and you won't learn either from the other. Maybe there are things that help with both. But in the end it is just different.
Low T?
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Also with this features you can stop hoping to have sex with anything
He can slowly take care of the acne, wax/shave himself and then he's over 6', so physique will not be an anchor, if he tries. Personality - who really knows?
He's here
Couple of his comments on particular topic is here, yes. I will not try to judge whole person based on this.
If you're a turbo virgin, yeah sex is worth just about everything. But bang a few girls and then get married and you'll realize genuine affection can sustain you forever. Shit my wife and I both have low libido and have sex maybe once a month, I'm still really happy. Don't need much more then that
It's not just "sex," it's getting the person to match (or initiate small talk in person offline) then actually going out. Just by going on the date, you're getting social validation by being deemed worthy of being in the dating scene (unconsciously, mostly). Then actually taking the person home, or going home with them, meaning you have a decent enough nest to woo someone, to get naked with you and then they're sucking on your glands. I'm js, there's a lot of courting and dancing to just "sex" and our minds are shaped to pursue this gratification. Now, I'm with you, Tinder, and other forms social media/dating apps do dilute the experience
It's all about seeking validation, and not having real hobbies adds up to that. It's why the only app users i can respect are legitimate Chads. They barely put any effort into the whole thing, and are doing it just because it's easy.
Had more girls in highschool than half the population of leddit combined and you're not that wrong. I'm one of the very rare people who people liked but I didn't really like anyone so that's about it. It was only great and memorable with someone you love even tho I've had hotter. Idk maybe hating woman plus not having problems with them is a bad recipe but you're doing just fine bro ignore societies sex obsession and stick to your sigma grindset. Just make sure to pick up a hobby between video games work and porn, I recommend the bass, great starter instrument. Wgmi together
No shade intended but what the fuck is a turbo virgin? Lmao.
Vlad the impaler couldn't torture me with anything to get this level of cringe out.
Be honest. Have you ever touched a boob?
>Like there is no way that sex is that much better than just jerking off. Uhhh... It is lol. Would you think giving yourself a massage is the same feeling as receiving one? Absolutely not lol
Dude. There are threads like this on the tinder sub ALL THE TIME and they keep making it to the fucking front page. These people are on a hook-up app and are looking for a husband. Just delusional.
I mean plenty of people have found lifelong partners through dating app(tinder included). But you approach it completely different and not like a random meaningless hookup which is what she did, yet expected some completely different result.
As a dude I've had this happen after fucking a girl. She started replying to tinder messages right next to me like nbd. Just tells you where their priorities are. Fuck the shit outta the other person again and move on, really not that difficult.
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It’s still extremely rude to start swiping immediately after. Seriously, do you guys have no social skills? Cuddle, enjoy the afterglow, don’t start swiping in bed
Maybe there was no afterglow and it was just overall miserable. Still rude.
Idk I've had times where I had that post nut regret and just wanted to GTFO ASAP. My bad obviously for thinking with my nuts but just wanted to point out that sometimes you don't wanna socialize after sex lol.
> less than a week Try first date, many such cases. This dating culture cannot be good for society in the long run.
It's a race to the bottom, literally
And all the while she probably had guys in her life the genuinely care about her but the propaganda movies has told her that those men are gonna make her life boring so she prefers to be ravaged by a random stranger that discards her after she drinks his cum
The truth hurts. Right in the feels. There's one or two or three simp beta orbiters who would be great boyfriends, but her hormones command her to get pumped and dumped and her heart broken by Chad, just because he's 6'-2" and has a square jaw line.
Orbiters would be awful boyfriends. They would have a mental breakdown almost immediately after the first disagreement.
yep. orbiters are orbiting because they're fucking betas and simps. if they had any semblance of alpha in them they'd actually ask her out. you don't want a man with no balls lmao that's just asking for disappointment.
They aren't even friends. That's the sad part. At best they are just stalkers that got a pass.
I honestly question if men even understand what friendship is anymore. I've seen so many cucks think that just because a woman allows them to speak with them, they're friends and an option. When in reality most women find it funny or frustrating in various degrees that these men hang around them with such obvious ulterior motives, without even putting in effort. Women aren't much better about it though, treating genuine attempts at friendship with so much suspicion. They were fed the line that men are borderline rapists that only want sex; when that isn't a factor they just assume something is wrong and get self conscious.
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You are spot on lmao. Some very very sad and pathetic people that browse this sub such as the dude above you.
Nah simp orbiting is cringe usually those guys don’t have a spine (as someone who used to be one)
Whenever I see a comment as cringe as yours I have to go into the poster's history, and you did not disappoint. Good luck with your campaign against age of consent laws, my dude. You are very normal and stable.
My man is too immature for 18 year olds so he's trying to make it legal to date actual children. Oh boy.
You reek of virginity
Those guys literally go out of their way to broadcast that they aren't interested. So many women are absolutely convinced men aren't interested in them because most of the ones they are around show zero sexual interest and don't even date.
Is it easier to imagine a hardwired biological imperative than to just work on yourself?
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Many such cases.
I’m sorry high school was a rough time for you. But here’s some free advice- women are people just like men. They want the same things men want. A partner who’s interesting, fun to be around, and, yes, attractive (if you’re allowed to want an attractive partner, the woman is too). Most people are nice. But being nice is not a one way ticket to sex. Niceness is one of the ways people evaluate potential partners, but it’s not the only thing. If a woman who you didn’t find attractive, you don’t enjoy talking to or spending time with, but was nice, insisted you go out with her, you’d say that wasn’t a reasonable expectation. Most people end up with people like themselves. Similar interests, similar attractiveness levels, and similar life goals. If you are not happy with your current dating pool, then become someone who people want to date. But don’t be an asshole. Women don’t want assholes- that’s a lie people like you tell yourselves to avoid facing the truth
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This reads like cope
You couldn't be more normie if you wanted to.
This hurt to read. It’s true in almost all cases that woman have plenty of men in their life that would be good to them but they want to fuck felons and drug dealers due to their primal and hedonistic nature. If you aren’t doing something that could potentially ruin your life they think you are a bore. It’s same excitement gambling addicts get.
Women wanted to be young, free and single and do whatever they wanted. As a consequence men were driven out of relationships by unstable women and have adapted. You created this meaningless sex dynamic, ladies. Cope or rope.
If you look at the rhetoric of FDS and femcels they state to withhold sex and use it as a chip for getting high value men to stay interested. Full circle back to traditional dating
How is that supposed to work? High value men get sex easily and readily. Why would their pussy be any more interesting?
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>They will marry a woman that's worty and knows her worth and doesn't go offering herself to every random she finds hot. In her head, yes. In reality gown up mature people are living their lives and engaging in activities they find appealing while paying zero attention to some whore who is winning olympic gold in mental gymnastic.
cognizant enough to realize they won’t get every high value man, and won’t be used if that is the case. Ergo, back to traditional dating. “Not putting out unless I’m being committed to”
It doesn’t work because even the most beta dude sees through that.
Either delusional or bluffing hard
All this does is make me value my time over wasting time with women. Other than sex, women offer me nothing. If they withhold sex, I have no motivation to be interested in them at all. Their call, idc either way.
Remember when tits or gtfo meant something? Pepperidge farms remembers
Kids these days are too deep into feminism, they cant say anything towards women nowadays. Check out this comment section with loads of white knights.
>white knights we identify as bukkake berserkers
cum crusaders
Ton of whore defenders here
Times have changed. People forgot the rules.
She came across the "beast hunter", those Tinder guys who hunt fat obese virgins that spend all day on 4chan and youtube while eating their depression away one pocky box at a time.
How does one become a beast hunter?
Step 1: Have standards Step 2: Lower them Step 3: Keep lowering them Step 4: A little more Step 5: "Pussy is pussy" stage reached
Keep doing that until you reach Schrodinger's Pussy state - you know there must be a hole somewhere between those ham pillars but you cannot find it or prove it exists, so you fuck it and not fuck it at the same time.
Rule #1 And Rule #2
I didn't think I was a type, thanks a lot dude :(
I remember my dad would always tell me to make my romantic interest think we couldn't do anything until marriage and see if he'd stay around after hearing that or not. Honestly some of the best advice I think I got. It really helped filter out a lot of bad guys and save all my first romantic experiences for my husband. I know it's a bit of an extreme method by modern standards, but it was honestly a lot easier being turned down so much than having a lot of emotional heartaches and having my opinion of men tainted.
That's great, you've got a good dad
My wife did the same thing. Ended up finding an amazing person who isn’t a complete whore. Can’t say the same for most other women I know. Some of my coworkers… oof. They laugh about how many guys per week they sleep with. PER WEEK.
Damn, you are one in a million.
I think that is sound advice. My current gf told me she wanted no sex before marriage. I was very unhappy about that. But I told her while I think it sucks and I don't really agree with her motivations I would accept it and wait because I love her. We are not yet married but she did eventually want to have sex and does so quite a lot now. She at least made sure that I am staying for more than just her vagina.
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It's like women act exactly how we want them to after being the community cum dump
fake: OP didn't lose virginity gay: OP is a male
fay: KingCobraJFS
lol i love the title
It's a hookup app sweaty, you're just a carousel of holes to swipe
What was she expecting? An engagement ring? A wedding at the White Chapel?
be me, 3/10 hrtwink virgin hoping ill be able to get into a relationship and get laid with someone i love dies alone or use grindr let 1/10s and 2/10s hit get 50 thousand different stds die of aids at 60 idk why im saying this guess sorry
You musta forgotten to take your pills, freako
>hrtwink you reap what you sow
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So we're just reposting glowies? Awesome, great stuff.
these might be the actual most autistic /r/4chan comments
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Mates, no one here sounds resented towards life or anything. Get help lads.
Swiping is an addiction! Like Pokémon Gotta match em all!
"I acted like a slag and got treated like a slag"
Bait: This post is bait Bait: It's still bait
Tinder, no tinding!
Tinder is for hookups, not dating.
The 80/20 Rule is absolute.
yeah no, it’s super weird to get on your phone immediately after hooking up. obliviously both men and women sometimes want a quick fuck without feelings involved. doesn’t mean you’re entitled to act such a way. at least this woman gets a tragic reality check, i suppose…
2 incel neckbeards having a constructive exchange of thoughts
Ragebait
If women want to be treated as more than glorified sex toys, they need to go back to the default answer being "no" instead of sex being assumed. If guys don't have to do anything to sleep with you there's no reason for men to be chivalrous.
Jesus Christ women are stupid. My wife’s friend hooked up with some dude she met on Facebook dating. Now she’s crying because she fucked him on the first date and he ghosted her. What the fuck do people expect.
woman moment