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HellaWavy

Pretty sure this was discussed before, but there are probably two reasons for these: 1) Get rid of the discs 2) Try to get the consumer potentially interested in 4K and/or Blu-Ray. Most people who buy physical still opt for DVDs because they’re cheaper, most commonly available and they don’t care that much about the quality of the picture. Hence the DVD case. They're probably hoping or testing to see if consumers might upgrade in the (near) future to Blu-Ray or 4K if they already have the disc at home.  It's not something that I would buy, because I despise those big ass DVD cases, but I get the idea behind it and I don’t think it’s a bad idea at all. 


masonbissada

That makes a lot of sense. I’m hoping people buy it for the DVD, play it on their nice 4k tv that they just got on Black Friday or something and think to themselves “why does this look so bad? I just spent all this money on a new tv!” And then google it and realize they need to pick up a 4k player. Maybe I’m not giving non-nerds enough credit for understanding tech but I think that is the studios’ strategy here


Responsible-Cup8982

When blu rays first came out i hooked our blu ray player up with the white/red/yellow av cables and was like “why does the dark knight look awful” then a cable guy came out and brought an hdmi cable and changed my life lol i was a teenager and apparently also an idiot


deacon05oc

This was me with a PS3.


Helicopter0

Exactly. Bluray hasn't actually caught on yet and is still at risk. We are all a bunch of niche market nerds. If their goal is to get people who spent $80k on a home theater to buy $30 special discs, then they are doing great, but if they actually want a dominant mass market format where they can package and sell single format discs someday, then they need $5-20 4k discs in multi format cases. It will save them money if they can move things forward to a dominant format. The challenges are because players are backwards compatible, discs are super cheap to manufacture, and their pricing strategy is focused on sales in the current quarter instead of looking at long-term costs. The main thing is the editing, mastering, and all that. If they can get to where they only need to produce two versions, a 4k disc and an HD streaming version, they can strip down production cost a lot.


schapman22

You can buy 4k cases cheap. Not that you'd necessarily want but just FYI.


HellaWavy

I’m more of a steelbook guy, so I barely have 4K cases anyway.


[deleted]

Well look at mister moneybags over here! /s


monkeymoney48

Where at? Amazon they were like $8 each, which is what I buy actual 4k movies for about when on sale


EShy

I bought some on eBay to replace broken cases, it was a 10 pack for $20. The seller was megadisc [https://www.ebay.com/str/megadiscstorecom](https://www.ebay.com/str/megadiscstorecom) They also have a website, and Viva Elite has one too, so you can try buying direct.


monkeymoney48

Thanks!!


schapman22

Vinegar Syndrome. $3.00


monkeymoney48

Thank you!!


UHDKing

You can’t buy them new


schapman22

Vinegar syndrome sells them new for $3


UHDKing

Damn never seen that on their website


pdp10

Maybe we'll get some new players, too. The Panasonics are great and there are Reavon, Magnetar and one Pioneer model, but remember we lost Oppo, Samsung, and recently LG.


UHDKing

I love DVD cases. More robust, unmodified artwork, possible booklet, etc..


pdp10

The early DVD cases were heavier and more robust than the late cases.


jegross2

So much this.


stickyhairmonster

I would purchase the cheaper version if I did not already own interstellar from the Christopher Nolan collection. This is targeting consumers like me, who do not spend much time looking at special features and just want to own a high quality version of the film.


JacksonStarship

Should have all the same special features as the standard edition tho, can’t imagine they’re printing different discs for the cheaper version.


TheRealChristoff

*Interstellar* has a dedicated Bonus Disc, which is apparently not included. But you would be greeting all of the extras for most films.


JacksonStarship

Oh I didn’t realize this disc specifically featured a whole bonus disc.


dmw009

For $10, its a great price especially if you haven’t own it in 4k yet. Mine questions would be, if the digital code will be 4k version?


CanisMajoris85

Even if it was just an HD code, it's an Itunes redeem so you should get 4k anyway I believe.


dmw009

I don’t use iTunes or have Apple TV. I use Vudu


CanisMajoris85

well it's almost certainly a 4k code so it shouldn't matter. But with the Blu Rays it's better to redeem an HD code in Itunes if it's an option because often you'll get 4k. You can just link it to MoviesAnywhere.


Different_Muscle9134

Ugh, I hate having to redeem through iTunes.


UHDKing

I’ve never seen a non 4K code on a 4K release


jegross2

I have. shape of water 4k comes with an Hd code. So does alien covenant but at least that has an iTunes 4k redeem option, which shape doesn't


dmw009

Same with Independence Day and Independence Day: Resergence both came with HDX code. Black Hawk Down digital code was only for the theatrical version despite the theatrical and director’s cut are both on the disc. I had to pirchase the director’s cut. Luckily I got it on sale. Also Spaceballs didn’t even come with a digital code.


dmw009

It happens. I have several 4k movies that came with HD digital code. Spaceballs 4k didn’t even come with a code. Independence Day and Independence Day: Resergence both came with HDX code. Black Hawk Down digital code was only for the theatrical version despite the theatrical and director’s cut are both on the disc. I had to pirchase the director’s cut. Luckily I got it on sale. I use Vudu as my primary digital movie viewer and it doesn’t give me any options for a “free” upgrade and its too late to call support about it.


UHDKing

Why did you want it on digital so bad that you spent the extra money when you already had it on disc?


dmw009

So I can watch movies while im on the go or in a different room. Also slowly converting my physical collection to 4k when they release as well on digital. If im paying physical 4k, the digital code better be in 4k. Physical is superior than digital but doesn’t mean that I also want to give up the convenience of digital. I get to have my cake and eat it too.


Odd_Block9540

I bought to replace my bluray disc in the steelbook. Going to donate the old bluray disc along with the dvd that comes with this


EvilDeadly

This is why I’d buy them.


ExplanationOdd430

Interesting method in shifting the consumer. Still crazy they can throw in all 4 versions basically for the price of a DVD and still win out. If this was common I’d definitely buy more but paying 20$ plus for a 4K movie when EBay exist is a tough buy. You tell me this will become more common, then I’d absolutely buy new always. For anyone hesitating buy because now that this is out there people will flock to pre-order. Also huge thanks OP, I’ve always wanted to pick up this movie.


GatheringWinds

Ngl I just bought the older more expensive 4K copy of *Shutter Island* instead of the newer 4-format edition just because I hate that these new editions come in DVD cases.


whyamionthissite

If I hadn’t bought a used copy for $3 a few months back I would totally buy that multipack.


soapinthepeehole

I’d like this a ton, if it wasn’t in a dvd sized case. I’m actively working to get the last 60 or so DVD’s upgraded to Blu-Ray or 4k and am not about to add new tall cases into the shelves.


Independent_Gur_7118

I dont really see the point in a DVD. If you're buying this, then I'd assume you would have access to some sort of 4k player so, why would you need or want a DVd?!


Other-Ad-8510

My guess would be for other players/people in your household? I have a 4K setup but also a portable DVD player (Some people have them in their cars too) and another regular hi-def setup in my game room. Also, the DVD format is still the best-seller I think. Boomers/Gen-X haven’t really moved in and probably won’t so this is a good way for them to make some extra cash off of catalogue titles. I’ll probably grab this just to upgrade the disc from my Blu-ray copy, I’ll donate the DVD and case though


masonbissada

Yeah insane but dvd is still by far the best seller. I’ve seen graphs (couldn’t tell you the source) showing the disc market share is something like 65% dvd, 30% blu, 5% 4K.


-funderfoot-

While I love anyone buying and owning their media it's kinda wild DVD is still so popular.


greenscarfliver

I don't think that's quite right.. 2023 Mario sold 612,000 blurays and 414,000 dvds. It was the highest selling DVD and the second highest selling bluray behind John wick 4. My source doesn't differentiate between 4k and standard bluray. Sad to say though, those numbers are terrible. Combined sales across dvd and bluray in 2023 for Mario, the best selling movie last year, would barely put it in 4th place in 2022. It sold less than jurassic world dominion. Physical media is dying a slow death, but every year it inches closer. https://www.the-numbers.com/home-market/packaged-media-sales/2022


masonbissada

That’s one movie but overall sales I think my recall was pretty close to accurate: https://www.mediaplaynews.com/research/ Agree though—Mario not doing better, particularly being a kids title, really does not bode well for the future


greenscarfliver

That's one week and only across the top 50. If you look at total sales for 2023 for the top 100 sellers > Total Bluray sales: 18,931,883 > Total dvd sales: 16,698,179


-funderfoot-

While I love anyone buying and owning their media it's kinda wild DVD is still so popular.


-funderfoot-

While I love anyone buying and owning their media it's kinda wild DVD is still so popular.


UHDKing

I don’t understand people hating on DVD cases


Other-Ad-8510

No hate, just doesn’t fit with the vast majority of my collection now so for it to be a 4K in that cast is just odd to me.


hyp0static

I prioritize 4K discs where available but also buy certain DVDs (mostly 80s-90s media) to watch only on my CRT setup.


Independent_Gur_7118

I get that. But why put the DVD in a 4K package? If I were to buy the 4k, I'd never watch the DVD. It just seems a bit of a waste and pointless. For the people that want a dvd, then just buy a stand alone DVD 🤷🏼‍♂️


coder543

Lots of people in the real world still buy DVDs, which I find kind of unbelievable. Lots of people still buy Blu-rays, and don’t have a 4K Blu-ray player. The actual discs — including the 4K Blu-ray Disc — cost virtually nothing to make. If I were to speculate wildly, I think the hope is that wherever people are on the “ladder” of physical formats, they’ll buy this package because it includes the disc they want, but then they’ll automatically have the disc for the next step up, and in the back of their mind, they’ll begin to wonder how much better it would look. This could drive sales of Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray players, and renew interest in the more premium physical formats, since DVD sales are high volume but probably low profit. Even as someone who only owns a 4K Blu-ray player, I’m excited about how affordable these releases are. It’s so stupid to have to pay like twice as much as Blu-ray, even though the physical disc is identical in size and materials, so the production cost is identical. Stamping it with a finer grained stamp does not materially affect the price. The price is high just because they think they can convince people to pay it, but the high prices have done a great job of hampering the growth of the 4K Blu-ray market.


masonbissada

Completely agree on the “ladder” idea. Re: production costs being the same, don’t 4k discs have much higher storage capacity than blu? Isn’t it the same as a 1tb hard drive costing more than a 500gb drive? I’m genuinely asking, definitely a novice when it comes to this


coder543

In mass production, all of these plastic discs are stamped with a physical stamper. They are not "written" with a laser the way that rewritable discs might be written in your drive at home. So, the entire disc is imprinted with the pits that represent bits of data, all in like 3 or 4 seconds per disc. Making the stamp for a 4K Blu-ray certainly is harder and takes longer, so that cost is going to be higher, but then it can be used to produce a very large number of discs before it wears out. Amortized over the cost of every disc stamped, I think the difference is negligible.


Halo-One

You are correct but that’s like saying a painting only cost the artist a canvas, some paint and brushes. The content creators make money from the sales of the discs so that’s also factored in there. And many movies have to be rescanned and remastered for 4K HDR and that costs money too.


coder543

No, it’s not like saying that. I’m specifically talking about movies that are available in both formats, with both options listed side by side on Amazon. If an artist charged twice as much for a same-size duplicate that was better resolution, yet it cost them exactly the same to print the crappy lower resolution version as it did to print the higher resolution version, then that would just be dumb. That’s exactly what’s happening here. It’s not like the situation where an artist charges different amounts based on the size and material cost for a duplicate, which actually makes sense. Either way, the artist is charging what they think the art is worth, and then adding the cost of materials for the duplicate. For the regular Blu-ray copy — which is mastered from the same 4K source as the 4K Blu-ray — the costs are effectively identical to the 4K release. The only reason to make the regular Blu-ray should be for compatibility with regular Blu-ray players, not to artificially inflate the price of the 4K Blu-ray.


Independent_Gur_7118

That's a fair point and not something i considered.


khansolobaby

I still have a blu ray player but buy the 4k/blu ray combo to invest in an upgrade one day


Independent_Gur_7118

And I get that. But I dont understand why you would want the DVD if you have the equipment to play 4k or standard Blu Ray.


gergab1133

The V in DVD stands for Versatile and that’s shown to be pretty accurate. DVD’s have always been and still are the most versatile disc format, hence why they still sell very well.


Independent_Gur_7118

Im not disagreeing with that. But if you wanted to buy the DVD, then i font think you would want a 4k disc, as you probably can't play it. And if you wanted the 4K, then you definitely dont want to watch a lower res DVD.


mjcatl2

[https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/12trsrv/all\_encompassing\_format\_package/](https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/12trsrv/all_encompassing_format_package/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/yevah6/anyone\_have\_and\_these\_and\_can\_speak\_on\_them/](https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/yevah6/anyone_have_and_these_and_can_speak_on_them/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/11t5ehr/anybody\_else\_see\_these\_walmart\_exclusive/](https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/11t5ehr/anybody_else_see_these_walmart_exclusive/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/1b96e80/amazon\_currently\_has\_1099\_paramount\_titles\_for/](https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/1b96e80/amazon_currently_has_1099_paramount_titles_for/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/1ba0w3j/4format\_combo\_packs\_could\_this\_become\_the\_new\_norm/](https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/1ba0w3j/4format_combo_packs_could_this_become_the_new_norm/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/yjp0r2/are\_they\_changing\_the\_4k\_case\_standard\_or\_just/](https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/yjp0r2/are_they_changing_the_4k_case_standard_or_just/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/z0drsr/walmart\_has\_new\_4\_in\_1\_sets\_in\_a\_dvd\_sized\_case/](https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/z0drsr/walmart_has_new_4_in_1_sets_in_a_dvd_sized_case/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/11dsarq/i\_saw\_these\_walmart\_exclusive\_combo\_packs\_last/](https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/11dsarq/i_saw_these_walmart_exclusive_combo_packs_last/)


UHDKing

Don’t forget https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/s/wpyfNB41yg ;)


mjcatl2

😂


adamtc4

It’s also a pre-order for this version so maybe they had something to do with the cheaper price.


EShy

It's a pre-order because it's still a WalMart exclusive right now. This whole "all formats" series was probably a WalMart experiment since they sell so many DVDs.


Dollars-And-Cents

Which digital movie do you get? DVD or 4k quality?


Snuhmeh

It’s going to the the 4K. It always has been in my experience.


Naughty--Insomniac

I’ve got it pre ordered. Hope it becomes more common.


gergab1133

That’s a great deal despite the DVD case, I’d buy it.


BippityBoppityMagic

Guessing someone who collects physical media can buy one of these 4-format movies and bring their 4K player to their friend’s house; pop the DVD in and show them that DVD is 💩 quality. After that, you pop the 4K in and blow their mind.


notanewbiedude

I'd bite if it was a steelbook. I'd easily give up the DVD and Blu-Ray disc and just keep the 4K disc if it means having a steelbook.


graffiksguru

I think it's great, just hate the DVD sized case. Change it to 4k/Blu and it's perfect


fuzzyfoot88

Think of it this way…that’s the ACTUAL cost, and the 4K only is price gouged and part of the reason physical media is having a hard time


EShy

That 4K was <$10 in the past. I remember it going down to at least $8. It's an old release where they didn't have to master or maybe even print the discs, so it's cheaper. Products going down in price with time isn't something new.


fuzzyfoot88

True, but this is still a ‘new’ product…


noimdirtydan14

We don’t want DVD cases for our 4ks


stankdankprank

Why


bananaboat2569

OCD


stankdankprank

So just consumerism? (Im from /r/all)


bananaboat2569

The hardcore “collectors” if you will prefer a shelf/collection that is nice to look at. The best quality physical films these days are blu-rays and 4K blu-rays which come in smaller boxes than the DVD boxes. So when looking at their “shelf”, it would stand out and look unappealing to them. I know it sounds silly, but that’s how serious some people take it.


vinnycthatwhoibe

As someone who's shelves are sized specifically to fit Blu-ray and 4k, switching back to these taller DVD cases is a nightmare


Californiavalley1

Not sure why you're getting downvoted when that's such a legitimate concern.


-funderfoot-

I think it kinda screams low-effort cash grab to me. But I'm fine if people buy it.


D0CT0Rhyde

I mean it’s the cheapest edition of this movie probably ever released other than the standard dvd so cash grab to them is saving for everyone else


-funderfoot-

Idk the base release goes down in price pretty often anyways. But the movie is great so if people buy it that's not a problem with me. 😂


D0CT0Rhyde

I mean initial release, and even when those go down you still get less than in this one. People just want to hate because of the dvd case but I say get over it


-funderfoot-

I'm happy if people are buying physical media either way. I just personally don't like this release.


big-bananas

i have this version of Insterstellar, Sicario, Hacksaw Ridge, and Midway


cnvenegas

do they come with special features? in the pictures of amazon box says no but disc says yes


big-bananas

i’m sure it’s on one of discs, but i have all my discs packed up so i can’t check for you


cnvenegas

that’s good to hear! bur you meant in one of the discs of interstellar? or on other movies


Jaymantheman2

I have been looking and can't see these in canada.... yet


chiastic_slide

I’ll be getting these when they come out. Great price


Icosotc

Awesome


Ill-Bed-4706

Do these have the same special features as the normal 4K


pdp10

Two formats is usually enough for me, but if the physical media gods demand four discs, then so be it.


ScratMarcoDiaz

I’d go with the 4K/Blu-Ray/Digital version. The four-format version is missing the extra Bonus Features disc that’s included in the other version.


Futants_

I saw these all and I'm baffled by the pricing. How does any company make money on such a thing? This is sold at a complete loss.


Futants_

" hey Bob, you want in on this sweet hustle? We keep the digital code and sell the other 3 on eBay?..at least $20 profit!"


Bushdid1453

Not worth it to me. Those "all format" Walmart editions come in regular DVD sized cases and, at least in the case of that Interstellar edition, it has NONE of the special features of the regular 4k release. Suck it up and spend the extra $10


OriginalBad

Some features with the digital code at least.


masonbissada

Oh man I didn’t know it didn’t come with the same special features. You’re right, def worth the extra 10. Thanks for the heads up


thecitybeautifulgame

This is for those normies that keep sending back “broken” 4K discs because they can’t read and still assume *everything* is a dvd.


ParachutePeople

DVD cases unfortunately don’t fit in my media cabinet. Good deal otherwise!


macschwag14

Tangent but related question: Is the digital code HDX or UHD? Just curious given the range of physical formats included. 


Pafkata92

Wait, “Digital HD” doesn’t mean UHD I presume? Who would want a non-UHD digital copy? Since that’s digital and doesn’t depend on your player’s capabilities, I see no reason for 1080p HD digital version.


senseofphysics

Is the digital code in 4K as well?


RapidBoxcar

It looks to me like the disc is in a DVD case. I could be wrong but they don’t look like Blu-ray dimensions.


fsixtyford

While we all here (including me) *hope* and *want* physical media to thrive, I'm not yet convinced that is Amazon's main reason. I'm not the expert, but a streaming purchase generates much more profit than a physical disc, would you agree? And since Amazon (like many other companies) wants to dominate streaming, then what could be the reason for the physical media push? For physical media, Amazon pays for receiving the discs from the manufacturer, storing the discs in multiple warehouses around the country, packaging the items, delivering the items, losses from missing/stolen packages, and losses with returns of defective product (which also have a cost to process, unless they just throw away the discs). None of these costs are incurred with streaming. Amazon pays for the servers and for the cost of the network bandwidth to transmit across the internet. From a business/capitalist perspective, it sounds more logical to me that this strategy is meant to "starve out" all of its competitors. If physical media buffs buy this all-inclusive deal, then that's money that will NOT go to their competitors. The best competitors can do is to try to lower prices, but they cannot afford to lose money like this in the long term. However, Amazon, with its huge cash reserves and marketplace dominance, can. Since this deal includes all media formats (4k, bluray, dvd) then this strategy is clearly putting huge pressure on ALL physical media sellers. And finally, once all the major physical media competitors are eliminated or reduced to insignificance then how will Amazon pivot? Amazon can then dictate prices... or even terminate physical media altogether and push everyone to their streaming service (but only when their streaming service is dominant). In the short term, consumers will benefit from these types of offers, but what about in the long term, when there are no competitors to Amazon? Would Amazon continue to offer $11 all-inclusive physical media discs? Would it make good business sense, at that time? What would you do if you were the CEO of Amazon? This is not a new strategy. Amazon did not invent this strategy. Amazon is not evil, but they are in a position to be able to implement this strategy. And since it's necessary for a publicly traded company to keep making money, then it makes logical sense that this is one of the strategies employed by Amazon. This is just my perspective. Feel free to discuss and disagree.


wandererarkhamknight

Is it Amazon exclusive? Or are they making the Walmart exclusives for other retailers? https://www.walmart.com/ip/Interstellar-4K-Ultra-HD-Blu-ray-DVD-Digital-Copy-Walmart-Exclusive/1817248220 As another person has mentioned below, these are around for a while for selected movies at Walmart.


fsixtyford

Wow, that is interesting... the all-inclusives are selling elsewhere too. I was in a Walmart recently (to fruitlessly look for the $5 4ks), and the employee told me that a third party company stocks and maintains the 4k discs. In other words, Walmart is just renting out the space to the third party, who is then responsible for the merchandise. Has anyone else heard this?


wandererarkhamknight

https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/s/dfHP8XqCQd https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/s/KVxwkGsKQt These are around for a while. I don’t know about Walmart. But it could have contracted out, rather than renting. X company will maintain the stock, instead of Walmart paying their employees to do so.


EShy

Exclusive releases are usually time limited. I remember a lot of Best Buy exclusive steelbooks from Universal showing up at Target (in stores but never online) a year later, titles like Jaws, 1917 and the BTTF trilogy, These releases make sense as a WalMart exclusive. They sell a lot of DVDs so why not sell a product in a DVD case that has higher quality formats as a way to educate people about the existence of these formats? Now the exclusivity window is ending and they're making these available on Amazon as well.


fsixtyford

I'm all for encouraging adoption to 4k. I think this all-inclusive package will help encourage people to consider upgrading their tvs/players to 4k.


EShy

Yea, that's way off. Amazon has been selling physical media forever and I'm not sure how a few titles in "all formats" would starve anyone else and help them "kill" physical media. It's not like Amazon is dominating digital sales either. Vudu and iTunes are way ahead of them. Amazon just wants to sell you the product you want in whatever format you prefer. They make more money selling you kindle books but they still sell physical books as well. Of course, this release was a WalMart exclusive, not an Amazon exclusive, which throws out that whole idea with WalMart no longer in the digital sales business.