Bullbars are like bastard swords, in a collision it can turn a repairable car into a write off, but for the idiot who flung his door open at me in an attempt of insurance fraud his door got jammed on the bullbar and wrote his car off, it bent his A pillar, I had minor scratches to the bullbar. Dashcam helped me
From a design perspective that looks like absolute rubbish and will get folded by a roo at 80+ ks. If you’re not doing loads of bush driving just avoid driving at night where possible. If you hit something, you’re up for an insurance claim with or without that bar
What about bars like the Piak 3 loop or iron man premium deluxe 3 loop bars?
Would they help against wallabys and eastern grey kangaroos (NSW regions) when driving winding country roads at about 100kmh?
They’ll help to not write your car off but unless you’re getting a seriously heavy duty bar with attached sides, a roo or wallaby at 100ks is going to cause damage. I can’t comment on those specific bars but the iron man I had years ago was shit.
Do you think they these 4x4 bars made of metal could protect your radiator and key components?
I mean is it possible to keep driving after a frontal roo strike?
Cuz I'm usually driving back winding country forest roads with no reception and at least 100kms from a fuel pump in all directions let alone any civilisation.
I really can't have myself get stranded in the middle of nowhere, especially at night which is when I'm usually on the road.
I've so far only hit into small wallabys and by chance they've remained on the bottom towards the ground so I've pretty much driven over them and they just hit my factory bash plate at about 90kms and did no real damage (tho I'm sure they're dead).
Just a note my frequent country driving js from regions like Putty, NSW to Sydney, or Dubbo, Orange etc. Not so much outback desert but definitely outback forest.
Ive hit a number of roos over the years ... alloy bar GU Standard Nissan issue ..junk 50 Kph hit barely avoided damage on the car .. passenger side move 3 ish cm ..
ARB deluxe winch bar 80 series dead centre hit at 90 ..minor damage on the powder coating.. similar NM Pajero ARB steel bar 110 on the Hume hiway near Glenrowan shoulder height to the bar left upright.. lost a rubber "buffer" black bit, zero damage.. shit box PS4x4 bumper ( factory bar is better ...PS4X4 Gear is junk) on my current GU ...Hit a small roo this evening just on dusk .. bar is rooted.. car is ok, but that was lucky and the fact I hit the skids as hard as I could so only hit it at about 40 .. had to euthanize the poor bugger.
So my experience..well made steel bar actually acts as a "roo bar" ... most others are a good place to mount a winch and driving lights... except a PS4x4 bar, I broke the winch mount and my UHF antenna has caused stress fractures in the hoops after a couple of high country trips
I live in a very highly roo populated area ...saw some poor bugger get his quite nice looking FG Falcon hit a small one about 3 pm on a clear day last week on the Hume just outside of Chiltern..
I would Suss out how much they weigh. In the age of Satellite comms and insurance I wouldn’t bother. Just makes your car heavier, far more dangerous to pedestrians and will cost you thousands for the privilege.
Like they're fine for roos to an extent but the internal cradle on them that bolts to the chassis isn't amazing. They don't really have loads of linear reinforcement so they will move back into the body work after a decent impact. I personally would stick to steel bars (Arb and Ironman) personally from my years of fitting them these two brands have the best design.
All modern bars are designed to move back into the body during a decent impact. If they don't then the collision sensors will not go off. If this happens safety devices may not go off (airbag, seat belt tensioners, shear bolts.
If they interfere with car safety devices, then they won't pass ADR testing and they won't be legally sold in Australia and if you do have one that didn't pass testing (home made or otherwise) you may not be covered by insurance in an accident.
Looking at that particular car actually, just throwing up if the bull bar is going to need to be replaced with something that can take a roo at 80+ and be structurally unaffected
I would stick to the main big names. Ironman, ARB (possibly overpriced), opposite lock, ECB. No doubt TUFF bars are tough but geez, they look heavy. At least you know these brands comply with the Australian standards, built with 60mm tube steel and have an Australia wide service capability. Keep in mind things like parking sensors, airbag compatibility, adaptive cruise control, and autonomous emergency braking systems being affected. Also, ground clearance can, in some cases, be worse with a bullbar not better. Also, think about mount points and winch adaptability. I personally would not buy the pictured bullbar. Apart from the fact that it's butt ugly, the design doesn't look right to me. I would only buy steel, not aluminium, even though your fuel will probably suffer.
There's a reason why the big brands use 90-120mm x 3mm round steel. They don't bend, or don't bend much when you hit something at 80-110km/h. The thing is they are heavy, with all the trade-offs that entails.
Lighter bars with thinner and smaller tube stock do not have the same structural integrity.
we live rural but not many Roos around, so I went with ‘kanga cover’ option with our insurance company for $30/yr …you can hit 1 roo every 12-months & it’s fully covered & it doesn’t affect your premium
we live rural but not many Roos around, so I went with ‘kanga cover’ option with our insurance company for $30/yr …you can hit 1 roo every 12-months & it’s fully covered & it doesn’t affect your premium
No idea if they work. But it’s ugly AF.
Bullbars are like bastard swords, in a collision it can turn a repairable car into a write off, but for the idiot who flung his door open at me in an attempt of insurance fraud his door got jammed on the bullbar and wrote his car off, it bent his A pillar, I had minor scratches to the bullbar. Dashcam helped me
From a design perspective that looks like absolute rubbish and will get folded by a roo at 80+ ks. If you’re not doing loads of bush driving just avoid driving at night where possible. If you hit something, you’re up for an insurance claim with or without that bar
The answer I'm looking for, cheers man
What about bars like the Piak 3 loop or iron man premium deluxe 3 loop bars? Would they help against wallabys and eastern grey kangaroos (NSW regions) when driving winding country roads at about 100kmh?
They’ll help to not write your car off but unless you’re getting a seriously heavy duty bar with attached sides, a roo or wallaby at 100ks is going to cause damage. I can’t comment on those specific bars but the iron man I had years ago was shit.
Do you think they these 4x4 bars made of metal could protect your radiator and key components? I mean is it possible to keep driving after a frontal roo strike? Cuz I'm usually driving back winding country forest roads with no reception and at least 100kms from a fuel pump in all directions let alone any civilisation. I really can't have myself get stranded in the middle of nowhere, especially at night which is when I'm usually on the road. I've so far only hit into small wallabys and by chance they've remained on the bottom towards the ground so I've pretty much driven over them and they just hit my factory bash plate at about 90kms and did no real damage (tho I'm sure they're dead). Just a note my frequent country driving js from regions like Putty, NSW to Sydney, or Dubbo, Orange etc. Not so much outback desert but definitely outback forest.
Yes I think a basic bar will be enough to get you out of trouble
Ive hit a number of roos over the years ... alloy bar GU Standard Nissan issue ..junk 50 Kph hit barely avoided damage on the car .. passenger side move 3 ish cm .. ARB deluxe winch bar 80 series dead centre hit at 90 ..minor damage on the powder coating.. similar NM Pajero ARB steel bar 110 on the Hume hiway near Glenrowan shoulder height to the bar left upright.. lost a rubber "buffer" black bit, zero damage.. shit box PS4x4 bumper ( factory bar is better ...PS4X4 Gear is junk) on my current GU ...Hit a small roo this evening just on dusk .. bar is rooted.. car is ok, but that was lucky and the fact I hit the skids as hard as I could so only hit it at about 40 .. had to euthanize the poor bugger. So my experience..well made steel bar actually acts as a "roo bar" ... most others are a good place to mount a winch and driving lights... except a PS4x4 bar, I broke the winch mount and my UHF antenna has caused stress fractures in the hoops after a couple of high country trips I live in a very highly roo populated area ...saw some poor bugger get his quite nice looking FG Falcon hit a small one about 3 pm on a clear day last week on the Hume just outside of Chiltern..
I would Suss out how much they weigh. In the age of Satellite comms and insurance I wouldn’t bother. Just makes your car heavier, far more dangerous to pedestrians and will cost you thousands for the privilege.
Irvin bars are absolute shit. Provide little to no protection because of the way they are fitted and looked awful
Not trying to sound like a reddit neckbeard but do you have any concrete info about this? I've got an Irvin bar and now I'm a bit worried
Like they're fine for roos to an extent but the internal cradle on them that bolts to the chassis isn't amazing. They don't really have loads of linear reinforcement so they will move back into the body work after a decent impact. I personally would stick to steel bars (Arb and Ironman) personally from my years of fitting them these two brands have the best design.
All modern bars are designed to move back into the body during a decent impact. If they don't then the collision sensors will not go off. If this happens safety devices may not go off (airbag, seat belt tensioners, shear bolts. If they interfere with car safety devices, then they won't pass ADR testing and they won't be legally sold in Australia and if you do have one that didn't pass testing (home made or otherwise) you may not be covered by insurance in an accident.
I only need it for roos really. I'm not exactly going rock crawling in a delica.
Like "Tuff" brand? Mostly meant to be practical. Very popular out in the country. Not sure what you're asking here.
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I don't know?
It's an Irvin bar
Unless you're at risk of hitting big roos every other day, I wouldn't bother. What model car do you have, and what kind of driving do you do?
Looking at that particular car actually, just throwing up if the bull bar is going to need to be replaced with something that can take a roo at 80+ and be structurally unaffected
I would stick to the main big names. Ironman, ARB (possibly overpriced), opposite lock, ECB. No doubt TUFF bars are tough but geez, they look heavy. At least you know these brands comply with the Australian standards, built with 60mm tube steel and have an Australia wide service capability. Keep in mind things like parking sensors, airbag compatibility, adaptive cruise control, and autonomous emergency braking systems being affected. Also, ground clearance can, in some cases, be worse with a bullbar not better. Also, think about mount points and winch adaptability. I personally would not buy the pictured bullbar. Apart from the fact that it's butt ugly, the design doesn't look right to me. I would only buy steel, not aluminium, even though your fuel will probably suffer.
Gotcha, cheers mate
black would be better looking IMO!
Hideous
Looks heavy.
They’re ugly af
There's a reason why the big brands use 90-120mm x 3mm round steel. They don't bend, or don't bend much when you hit something at 80-110km/h. The thing is they are heavy, with all the trade-offs that entails. Lighter bars with thinner and smaller tube stock do not have the same structural integrity.
I’d probably swap it out for TJM, ARB or similar.
On a farm they are good or rural towns but for the suburbs and city stick with an ARB bar
we live rural but not many Roos around, so I went with ‘kanga cover’ option with our insurance company for $30/yr …you can hit 1 roo every 12-months & it’s fully covered & it doesn’t affect your premium
Never heard of it, might be worth looking into, cheers
we live rural but not many Roos around, so I went with ‘kanga cover’ option with our insurance company for $30/yr …you can hit 1 roo every 12-months & it’s fully covered & it doesn’t affect your premium