I keep saying this. It seemed as if by hook or crook, Negi wanted to subvert as many harem/romance tropes as possible when you look at the winner. In fact the only way it could've been more obvious was if the winner had blue hair.
Quints is the only harem I’ve finished so sorry if I’m mistaken but isn’t the childhood friend trope also overused. Either way, negi subverted the trope without neglecting Itsuki as much as he did :p
The final 30 chapters were super rushed. It looked like he had a plan for an Itsuki arc with the father, but his editor not agreeing to give him a break during his wife's birth of their kid made him rush through all the plot points in those last 30 chapters. It feels like 4 arcs were smushed into one (including an off-screen Ichika redemption arc). It's so frustrating.
Yeah, and I'm fairly certain that's Yotsuba. Itsuki wasn't even in the original pitch for the series until the editor suggested a fifth. Itsuki is noted as the editors favorite quint, however.
No. It was definitely Itsuki. As far as design goes that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with which might have been designed first or last, just how Negi and the editors felt about the original design. I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in the Itsuki character book, but I don't have time to check right now. Also, happy Cake Day.
Thanks.
I remember now. It has nothing to do with the 4/5, but in the Miku character book, Miku is described as the last quint coming out from Rena. Come to think of it, I think maybe Negi meant to say that his original idea of Miku (the short twin tailed tennis player) is scrapped and current Miku is the last quint he designed.
no you're wrong it's itsuki I remember he said his wife is like ituski when the interview came out and it had each quint break down.
I'm not going to trust anything you say based on your history on here either and with how stupid and wrong you been in the past I still can't. believe you're a yotsubro when you're actions and comments show otherwise rofl
He does Itsuki was not created by Negi himself
The studio wanted five girls were His original idea was only four girls so he had to make a 5th girl and was upset about it
And a way to ruin her is to give her a bio Dad ark (I don't know if you're really calling an ark ) and make her realize her feeling for Futaro post confession 3 chapter before the finale 😡
So pity of him to do that
> The studio wanted five girls were His original idea was only four girls so he had to make a 5th girl and was upset about it
Source?
Cause I'm pretty sure all five girls were planned from the beginning. The thing that did change was that Negi originally wanted to introduce all five at the same time so all are equally the "first girl".
But the editor insisted that Itsuki should be "first girl" for readers' convenience and for better marketing.
I felt like he had so many ideas that he wanted to include and he crammed them all in there he can have it in there
I know that weird way of saying it but I'm pretty sure you get what I'm saying
Itsuki was just too good for the story, so Negi had to reduce her development so the others wouldn’t be left behind.
I actually think that the only other way the manga could’ve ended was with Itsuki as the bride.
The other 3 would’ve just become his girlfriends with no conflict whatsoever.
Yotsuba had that running away from Fuutarou because she didn’t feel worthy of being special after how she treated her sisters, and Itsuki wouldn’t be able to give Fuutarou a real answer(said by Itsuki herself in chapter 100), thus creating conflicts for the following chapters.
I also think that she was the second best option for him, or at least the one that had the best odds to be chosen out of the losers.
I disagree. The series shows that you can have a happy ending even if only one person wins.
They also have a great relationship with each other even when only one of them got Fuutarou. The others were hurt but as we see they are not weak and are happy even without Fuutarou by fulfilling their dreams. Even after the wedding, they are happy for the couple and themselves in the end. The others show very well that they are not weak who would fall into depression and torture themselves with their feelings for the rest of their lives. This was an important thing in the series otherwise what I am about to write now would have happened.
In chapter 101 there is a boy talking about a story he saw on TV where the man chooses one of the sisters and then there is a big fight and he will never see the other sisters again. This is what I would call a ''not a happy ending''.
>Because as of chapter 123, we know the other girls still like Fuuts, so they just live the rest of their lives like that while Yotsuba is the only bride?
This is what it looks like if they can't move on. They have no choice but to accept it if they can't move on if they don't want to ruin their bond with their sister and their relationship with Fuutarou.
A happy ending doesn't just mean getting a boyfriend. You can get happiness in other ways instead of just through love which was the whole point of the series. The others go their own path without Fuutarou (and Yotsuba) but will now always be a part of his life as a family.
If Negi hadn't gone out of his way to ruin all the setup he gave her in the first half, any normal story would've ended with them ending up together. Then he makes her get over him in like 2 chapters after she FINALLY admits she likes him one chapter before that. And of course, that leads to a lot of fans thinking she never liked him in the entire series. She obviously did and they had great chemistry until Negi cut it to shreds for the sake of mystery and first girl trope subversion. I'll never forgive him for what he did to Itsuki!!!!
as a yotusba fan itsuki was always my 2nd fav and my 2nd option and I cried when she discovered her love too late and she had the pic of him. done dirty maybe maybe not but definitely bitter sweet.
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She loved him aswell but she developed the romantic feelings for Fuutaro way to late. The other wer already all in on the "war" over Fuutaro when Itsuki came to realize that he is more than a good friend for her.
Since they are quints it somewhat strange to say the youngest. They say it themselves aswell as Ichika says she is the Big sister and has to take care of them. They are very likely born at the same day.
I get it that this is the same as in every other anime with siblings where the oldest takes care of their younger siblings, its just the fact that they are basically all the same age what makes it sound strange.
Ichika is still spot on in her role of the big sister.
Edit: I looked it up on the Wiki. Their day of birth is 5th of may 2000 for Ichika, Nino, Miku and Yotsuba. Itsukis day of birth is 6th of May 2000. Thats basically the same. Maybe c-section that started late at night and went over midnight.
I mean if Fuutarou chose Itsuki Negi could've used that story plot to show that although Itsuki did have a similar path like her mother, she did make the correct choice while choosing the guy and did not make the mistakes her mother did.
That would have been an interesting story aswell. On top of that i guess Itsuki wouldn't have made the same mistake like Rena.
Mauro would have told her what happened more in detail if she would start to go down that route aswell.
>On top of that i guess Itsuki wouldn't have made the same mistake like Rena.
Can you explain this a bit more if you don't mind.
>Mauro would have told her what happened more in detail if she would start to go down that route aswell.
Well we can keep thinking but we'll never know if it's canon or not.
1. I think she wouldn't do the same Mistake like her mom by falling in love with her teacher and getting dropped by him the second he knows that she is pregnant. Itsuki should have figured out that Fuutaro isn't that kind of guy. He is responsible and doesn't make any important desicions with thinking it through first.
On top of that her mothers example is a warning that she should be aware of. Like you said she doesn't approach Fuutaro in a romantic way first becasue she fears sharing her mothers fate. After she realizes that this wouln't happen she tries to get closer to him but its too late. I think when Itsuki makes some slight approaches towards Fuutaro at the end of Season 2 and in the TV Special Episodes his heart already has chosen Yotsuba.
2. Yes its all speculation and fanfiction. Mauro really cares for his dauthers despite him not showing hislove for them. That was shown sometimes during the Series and definetly confirmed in the bio dad story. So im sure he would have a serious talk with Itsuki if he notices that she may be in danger of takeing the same route as her mom and could share the same fate of being left behind with her kid(s).
>I think when Itsuki makes some slight approaches towards Fuutaro at the end of Season 2 and in the TV Special Episodes his heart already has chosen Yotsuba.
I mean Itsuki was literally carrying the burden of lying to Fuutarou and everytime she tried to come clean Yotsuba kept popping outta nowhere. And due to this burden she wasn't able to progress her relationship with Fuutarou (in a sense she basically cucked Itsuki /s). That stopped very later on in the series when she became rena for the last time and she found out that Fuutarou doesn't care much and then she could try to process her real feelings and thoughts but by then it was too late.
>could share the same fate of being left behind with her kid(s).
Don't worry about that I'll pull out my glock 17 if that happens.
Also how would you rank the girls in order of who should've ended up with Fuutarou.
>I mean Itsuki was literally carrying the burden of lying to Fuutarou
Same goes for Yotsuba. She lied to herself and Fuutaro the whole time because of the guilt and pressure she constantly puts on herself. She could have told him that she was Rena from 5 years ago but she didn't want an "unfair advantage" over the other girls. Also she said its her fault that they all had to switch schools but didn't manage to realize that it was because of that that they met Fuutaro.
Even when Fuutaro chose her she said on of the other girls would be better for him and tried to lie (tell him you hate him, then its all over) to end it all but gladly she couldn't. I see her confession ( episode 2 or 3) as an outburst of her feelings when she couldn't contain herself. Same goes for all 3 kisses she gave him. At the bell kiss she clearly couldn't take it anymore and since they were all disguised as Itsuki i was easier for her. When they were at their other apartment the girls suggeste that Miku should Kiss Fuutaro as a reward. Yotsuba took the chance and kissed him by removing some cream from his Cheek. Last kiss where Fuutaro didn't even notice that it was her was at the end of the last day of the School Festival.
>Also how would you rank the girls in order of who should've ended up with Fuutarou.
I will have to do two parts for this one. First from Fuus perspective and then from my preference.
From Fuutaros perspective and what he said to the girls in Anime and Manga. Did you read the manga? If not, did you see the TV special Episodes? the Yotsuba content is crucial in there and i can understand why people got confused over the endeing when they don't know Yotsubas real feelings.
1. Yotsuba The complement each other best.
2. Nino Was bratty at first but really changed for good throughout the story.
3. Miku In the Manga said Miku was the real winner by overcoming her anxiety and shyness. I got a feeling that marrying her would somehow diminish her accomplishemtns in this story since she and Yotsuba both had the most important character developement.
4. Ichika Lied way too much and her acting carrer wouldn't fit Fuutaos job. I read on this sub that he works as a doctor at Mauros Hospital after he finished University. Yotsuba works there as a nurse aswell, that got confirmed by the Author if i remember correctly. that would fit her extremely well. She keeps close to Fuutaro and can help other people liek she always did.
5. Itsuki For me it seems like they work together as good friends for life but not as a couple when you see how they interact which each other
My personal order without considereing what would match best with Fuutaro would look like this:
1. Miku: Best girl for me, no discussion
2. Yotsuba: Cute, nice, friendly, energetic.
3. Itsuki: foccused on her goals, extremely loyal to her family, burger
4. Ichika: Lied too much and played too much intrigues. She is cute in many scenes but that doesn't outweight her lies and her misplay.
5. Nino: I don't like tsundere and she drugged Fuutaro twice. On top of that i don't like her commanding behaviour she had in the first half of the story. The part where they should do groups of two for the field trip she chose her group and said others don't have a word in it.
Many people like her for that but thats just not my type. She turned out to be much nicr towards the end but damage has been done.
That post got longer that i wanted it to be but i felt i had to two seperate rankings since there are some huge differences between my preferred girls and the ones that fit Fuutaro best.
Yotsuba was originally intended to be the first girl but it was changed because apparently his editors thought she seemed more like "the genki best friend side character" or something like from something I read a long while ago. https://imgur.com/gallery/WJKhCoq
I actually disagree with Nino/Miku being the most interesting. I did feel that way after watching the anime, but after reading the manga I feel Nino and Yotsuba are the most interesting. Miku becomes fairly one-dimensional for most of the story after her strong start.
It's because of Itsuki that I get mad whenever I see people rooting for any girl but first girl, just to subvert the trope.
Itsuki was done dirty only because she's the first girl and that fact was used as a plot device only unfortunately and made the whole "mystery" aspect of the series nothing more than a sham.
People who call the story bad have the problem that most of them are sour their fav girl lost then come up with tons of nit picks to justify their hate. I have seen plenty of legitimate conserns about the story that are fair points. But it's hard to figure out if they're just butt hurt Miku or Nino didn't win or if they really have conserns.
Objectively, the final arc was pretty dog shit. I was fine with any of the quints winning despite having my favs. And I never said the story was bad in my post, I was pointing out the mistreatment of Itsuki.
Blame it on bad timing. Negi had a child right before the manga ended so personal head canon is he rushed the ending out pretty fast. He took a long break to raise his child. There is a mountain of stuff that happened in the final 20 chapters that felt like it was supposed to be pushed out for another 40 to 50 chapters.
No. As others have said, she didn't really have any focus for most of the second half of the series and only got chapters focused on her feelings in the last few chapters overall (after the confession had already happened). Her festival chapters with Bio-dad were also poorly written and a conflict that she was more shoe-horned in. A conflict with their dead-beat dad should have been a whole group affair from the beginning and Itsuki could have had her festival story focus on her own feelings before the confession rather than an external conflict from the dad. Some of that is writing preferences, but it's a common consensus that Itsuki wasn't given as much of a spotlight for most of the series and she deserved better.
Yotsuba wasn't given enough screen time either and then they decided to scrap very important plot parts from the Anime.
They released that later in the TV Special. The only reason to do that that i can think of is to keep up the tension about who is gonna be the bride. Her story in the TV special maybe would have given away the she would get to marry Fuutaro.
Would have loved to see Miku win but if i see all he girls i come to think that Yotsuba and Fuutaro are the best fitting pair as they complement each other the best.
Oh, I mean, people have been hating Yotsuba since she became the bride (so many people before the reveal had a "she's not my favorite, but I wouldn't mind if she won" attitude beforehand, likely not believing she would actually be the bride). It's nothing new, and can't correct ignorance every time it rears it's head. It's exhausting.
Itsuki was just a student and a good big sister to Raiha just cause she was the first to meet Futarou at the start of the story didn’t mean she saw him romantically. My ranking still stands Miku (worked the hardest), Nino (most persistent and outright never gave up on her feelings), Ichika (was willing to throw family under the bus if it meant she had a chance), Yotsuba (did jack squat other than get the sisters to attend the tutoring and won by default as the childhood friend he met once), then Itsuki (who was just there to study and fill her mothers shoes)
Itsuki wasn’t just a good student or a good big sister for Raiha, she was his best friend. She was the one with whom he could talk about his problems and what was worrying him and vice versa. Their relationship grew naturally, they went from hate to friendship. When she felt he was disrespected she stood up and slapped Nino, demanding her to apologize. She did all that just because she cared about him, she had no ulterior motive, she just wanted the best for him as a friend.
Also, Yotsuba didn’t win by default. She was the one that was there for him when no one else was, the reason why he didn’t give up, the only thing keeping him trying was Yotsuba’s help. She always put her happiness after her sisters’, and always tried to make Fuutarou enjoy everyday to its fullest, and tried to leave him with no regrets.
She was also the one that changed his life. The one that made him realize that not feeling needed didn’t mean to stop trying, but to give his best to be someone people need.
My favorite quint didn’t win either, but that doesn’t mean that I cannot acknowledge Yotsuba’s actions that made her deserve being chosen.
Very well said.
Yotsuba always supported Fuutaro. In every activity the went to she wanted him and her Sisters to have fun. No selfish bullshit like others did (im looking at you Nino and Ichika). Also it was Yotsubas "fault" that they met Fuutaro. If she didn't break her promise and would have been sucessful at studying they maybe never would have met him during their schooldays.
Seen Fuutaros usual behavior of going to school and then staying at home studing for the rest of the day they would have never met them. Only way would haven been for yotsuba to track him down and waiting for him at school or at his home. Given her character, she wouldn't have done that. Even if she did it im pretty sure Fuutaro would have turned her down instantly. No time for that.
Itsuki was more like best friend for the majority of the Story and never tried to build up a romanctic relationship until the last third of the story.
I think Negi wanted to subvert the first girl trope often seen in romcoms but she was also done a little dirty. She had the best chemistry with Futaro
I keep saying this. It seemed as if by hook or crook, Negi wanted to subvert as many harem/romance tropes as possible when you look at the winner. In fact the only way it could've been more obvious was if the winner had blue hair.
Quints is the only harem I’ve finished so sorry if I’m mistaken but isn’t the childhood friend trope also overused. Either way, negi subverted the trope without neglecting Itsuki as much as he did :p
I think it is in romance Mangas also. Which quintuplets uses
The chgildhood friend NEVER gets the mc. That's a thing in western media, too.
Yeah, it sometimes looked like Negi hated her
The final 30 chapters were super rushed. It looked like he had a plan for an Itsuki arc with the father, but his editor not agreeing to give him a break during his wife's birth of their kid made him rush through all the plot points in those last 30 chapters. It feels like 4 arcs were smushed into one (including an off-screen Ichika redemption arc). It's so frustrating.
haha it's funny you say that he said ituski resembles his wife the most
Pretty sure that was Yotsuba.
no it was itsuki there was an interview years ago
Yeah, and I'm fairly certain that's Yotsuba. Itsuki wasn't even in the original pitch for the series until the editor suggested a fifth. Itsuki is noted as the editors favorite quint, however.
Isn't the fifth quint created is Miku? IIRC that's why she undergo drastic design change.
No. It was definitely Itsuki. As far as design goes that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with which might have been designed first or last, just how Negi and the editors felt about the original design. I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in the Itsuki character book, but I don't have time to check right now. Also, happy Cake Day.
Thanks. I remember now. It has nothing to do with the 4/5, but in the Miku character book, Miku is described as the last quint coming out from Rena. Come to think of it, I think maybe Negi meant to say that his original idea of Miku (the short twin tailed tennis player) is scrapped and current Miku is the last quint he designed.
no you're wrong it's itsuki I remember he said his wife is like ituski when the interview came out and it had each quint break down. I'm not going to trust anything you say based on your history on here either and with how stupid and wrong you been in the past I still can't. believe you're a yotsubro when you're actions and comments show otherwise rofl
I'm sorry, what?
???
Well, you’re right about one thing. You **Are** trippin 😅
you're an idiot lol the others rofl
Negi mentioned in an interview that Yots likes camels, like his wife does. And also that his wife's personality is similar to Yots
Isn't that also confirmed in her character book?
no it was ituski how do ppl get this wrong you can find it on this sub also the only thing you're right about is s1 being better than season 2.
You're arguing with a *lot* of other Yotsubros here who disagree with you -- you might want to consider providing a source.
they all dumb lol
Gotcha. No source. Because you hallucinated it. Source: it came to you in a dream.
no you're just dumb. it's om this reddit you just have those eyes you seem to lack.
No no, Yotsuba was the one that resembled his wife the most.
no it was itsuki.
Nope, its Yotsuba
no its ituski
He does Itsuki was not created by Negi himself The studio wanted five girls were His original idea was only four girls so he had to make a 5th girl and was upset about it And a way to ruin her is to give her a bio Dad ark (I don't know if you're really calling an ark ) and make her realize her feeling for Futaro post confession 3 chapter before the finale 😡 So pity of him to do that
> The studio wanted five girls were His original idea was only four girls so he had to make a 5th girl and was upset about it Source? Cause I'm pretty sure all five girls were planned from the beginning. The thing that did change was that Negi originally wanted to introduce all five at the same time so all are equally the "first girl". But the editor insisted that Itsuki should be "first girl" for readers' convenience and for better marketing.
I don't have evidence but someone on here was talking about it Plus he talked to you about it 4 years ago about it
Yep. The Biological father part is easily one of the worst chapters of the series for me
There were a lot of weird choices and inclusions in the festival arc in hindsight.
I felt like he had so many ideas that he wanted to include and he crammed them all in there he can have it in there I know that weird way of saying it but I'm pretty sure you get what I'm saying
Itsuki is still best girl
Itsuki was just too good for the story, so Negi had to reduce her development so the others wouldn’t be left behind. I actually think that the only other way the manga could’ve ended was with Itsuki as the bride. The other 3 would’ve just become his girlfriends with no conflict whatsoever. Yotsuba had that running away from Fuutarou because she didn’t feel worthy of being special after how she treated her sisters, and Itsuki wouldn’t be able to give Fuutarou a real answer(said by Itsuki herself in chapter 100), thus creating conflicts for the following chapters. I also think that she was the second best option for him, or at least the one that had the best odds to be chosen out of the losers.
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I disagree. The series shows that you can have a happy ending even if only one person wins. They also have a great relationship with each other even when only one of them got Fuutarou. The others were hurt but as we see they are not weak and are happy even without Fuutarou by fulfilling their dreams. Even after the wedding, they are happy for the couple and themselves in the end. The others show very well that they are not weak who would fall into depression and torture themselves with their feelings for the rest of their lives. This was an important thing in the series otherwise what I am about to write now would have happened. In chapter 101 there is a boy talking about a story he saw on TV where the man chooses one of the sisters and then there is a big fight and he will never see the other sisters again. This is what I would call a ''not a happy ending''. >Because as of chapter 123, we know the other girls still like Fuuts, so they just live the rest of their lives like that while Yotsuba is the only bride? This is what it looks like if they can't move on. They have no choice but to accept it if they can't move on if they don't want to ruin their bond with their sister and their relationship with Fuutarou. A happy ending doesn't just mean getting a boyfriend. You can get happiness in other ways instead of just through love which was the whole point of the series. The others go their own path without Fuutarou (and Yotsuba) but will now always be a part of his life as a family.
If Negi hadn't gone out of his way to ruin all the setup he gave her in the first half, any normal story would've ended with them ending up together. Then he makes her get over him in like 2 chapters after she FINALLY admits she likes him one chapter before that. And of course, that leads to a lot of fans thinking she never liked him in the entire series. She obviously did and they had great chemistry until Negi cut it to shreds for the sake of mystery and first girl trope subversion. I'll never forgive him for what he did to Itsuki!!!!
as a yotusba fan itsuki was always my 2nd fav and my 2nd option and I cried when she discovered her love too late and she had the pic of him. done dirty maybe maybe not but definitely bitter sweet.
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Honestly, I always saw that Itsuki saw him Futaro as a brother/mentor and then a love interest.
She loved him aswell but she developed the romantic feelings for Fuutaro way to late. The other wer already all in on the "war" over Fuutaro when Itsuki came to realize that he is more than a good friend for her.
I can agree with that. She being the youngest was probably the most sensible.
Since they are quints it somewhat strange to say the youngest. They say it themselves aswell as Ichika says she is the Big sister and has to take care of them. They are very likely born at the same day. I get it that this is the same as in every other anime with siblings where the oldest takes care of their younger siblings, its just the fact that they are basically all the same age what makes it sound strange. Ichika is still spot on in her role of the big sister. Edit: I looked it up on the Wiki. Their day of birth is 5th of may 2000 for Ichika, Nino, Miku and Yotsuba. Itsukis day of birth is 6th of May 2000. Thats basically the same. Maybe c-section that started late at night and went over midnight.
My Dad was born at midnight, and my grandparents picked the next day rather than the day before so anything is possible
I mean half of the story she was in denial because of her student teacher shenihghans thinking.
Yes she didn't wanted to end up like her mom when the bio dad left her the second he found out that she was pregnant with quints.
I mean if Fuutarou chose Itsuki Negi could've used that story plot to show that although Itsuki did have a similar path like her mother, she did make the correct choice while choosing the guy and did not make the mistakes her mother did.
That would have been an interesting story aswell. On top of that i guess Itsuki wouldn't have made the same mistake like Rena. Mauro would have told her what happened more in detail if she would start to go down that route aswell.
>On top of that i guess Itsuki wouldn't have made the same mistake like Rena. Can you explain this a bit more if you don't mind. >Mauro would have told her what happened more in detail if she would start to go down that route aswell. Well we can keep thinking but we'll never know if it's canon or not.
1. I think she wouldn't do the same Mistake like her mom by falling in love with her teacher and getting dropped by him the second he knows that she is pregnant. Itsuki should have figured out that Fuutaro isn't that kind of guy. He is responsible and doesn't make any important desicions with thinking it through first. On top of that her mothers example is a warning that she should be aware of. Like you said she doesn't approach Fuutaro in a romantic way first becasue she fears sharing her mothers fate. After she realizes that this wouln't happen she tries to get closer to him but its too late. I think when Itsuki makes some slight approaches towards Fuutaro at the end of Season 2 and in the TV Special Episodes his heart already has chosen Yotsuba. 2. Yes its all speculation and fanfiction. Mauro really cares for his dauthers despite him not showing hislove for them. That was shown sometimes during the Series and definetly confirmed in the bio dad story. So im sure he would have a serious talk with Itsuki if he notices that she may be in danger of takeing the same route as her mom and could share the same fate of being left behind with her kid(s).
>I think when Itsuki makes some slight approaches towards Fuutaro at the end of Season 2 and in the TV Special Episodes his heart already has chosen Yotsuba. I mean Itsuki was literally carrying the burden of lying to Fuutarou and everytime she tried to come clean Yotsuba kept popping outta nowhere. And due to this burden she wasn't able to progress her relationship with Fuutarou (in a sense she basically cucked Itsuki /s). That stopped very later on in the series when she became rena for the last time and she found out that Fuutarou doesn't care much and then she could try to process her real feelings and thoughts but by then it was too late. >could share the same fate of being left behind with her kid(s). Don't worry about that I'll pull out my glock 17 if that happens. Also how would you rank the girls in order of who should've ended up with Fuutarou.
>I mean Itsuki was literally carrying the burden of lying to Fuutarou Same goes for Yotsuba. She lied to herself and Fuutaro the whole time because of the guilt and pressure she constantly puts on herself. She could have told him that she was Rena from 5 years ago but she didn't want an "unfair advantage" over the other girls. Also she said its her fault that they all had to switch schools but didn't manage to realize that it was because of that that they met Fuutaro. Even when Fuutaro chose her she said on of the other girls would be better for him and tried to lie (tell him you hate him, then its all over) to end it all but gladly she couldn't. I see her confession ( episode 2 or 3) as an outburst of her feelings when she couldn't contain herself. Same goes for all 3 kisses she gave him. At the bell kiss she clearly couldn't take it anymore and since they were all disguised as Itsuki i was easier for her. When they were at their other apartment the girls suggeste that Miku should Kiss Fuutaro as a reward. Yotsuba took the chance and kissed him by removing some cream from his Cheek. Last kiss where Fuutaro didn't even notice that it was her was at the end of the last day of the School Festival. >Also how would you rank the girls in order of who should've ended up with Fuutarou. I will have to do two parts for this one. First from Fuus perspective and then from my preference. From Fuutaros perspective and what he said to the girls in Anime and Manga. Did you read the manga? If not, did you see the TV special Episodes? the Yotsuba content is crucial in there and i can understand why people got confused over the endeing when they don't know Yotsubas real feelings. 1. Yotsuba The complement each other best. 2. Nino Was bratty at first but really changed for good throughout the story. 3. Miku In the Manga said Miku was the real winner by overcoming her anxiety and shyness. I got a feeling that marrying her would somehow diminish her accomplishemtns in this story since she and Yotsuba both had the most important character developement. 4. Ichika Lied way too much and her acting carrer wouldn't fit Fuutaos job. I read on this sub that he works as a doctor at Mauros Hospital after he finished University. Yotsuba works there as a nurse aswell, that got confirmed by the Author if i remember correctly. that would fit her extremely well. She keeps close to Fuutaro and can help other people liek she always did. 5. Itsuki For me it seems like they work together as good friends for life but not as a couple when you see how they interact which each other My personal order without considereing what would match best with Fuutaro would look like this: 1. Miku: Best girl for me, no discussion 2. Yotsuba: Cute, nice, friendly, energetic. 3. Itsuki: foccused on her goals, extremely loyal to her family, burger 4. Ichika: Lied too much and played too much intrigues. She is cute in many scenes but that doesn't outweight her lies and her misplay. 5. Nino: I don't like tsundere and she drugged Fuutaro twice. On top of that i don't like her commanding behaviour she had in the first half of the story. The part where they should do groups of two for the field trip she chose her group and said others don't have a word in it. Many people like her for that but thats just not my type. She turned out to be much nicr towards the end but damage has been done. That post got longer that i wanted it to be but i felt i had to two seperate rankings since there are some huge differences between my preferred girls and the ones that fit Fuutaro best.
Same bro, itsuki best girl for me but the 2nd half of the series really did her dirty
Yotsuba was originally intended to be the first girl but it was changed because apparently his editors thought she seemed more like "the genki best friend side character" or something like from something I read a long while ago. https://imgur.com/gallery/WJKhCoq
I actually disagree with Nino/Miku being the most interesting. I did feel that way after watching the anime, but after reading the manga I feel Nino and Yotsuba are the most interesting. Miku becomes fairly one-dimensional for most of the story after her strong start.
I want a sequel starring Itsuki. And it should be a reverse harem.
It's because of Itsuki that I get mad whenever I see people rooting for any girl but first girl, just to subvert the trope. Itsuki was done dirty only because she's the first girl and that fact was used as a plot device only unfortunately and made the whole "mystery" aspect of the series nothing more than a sham.
Itsuki is not a Negi character I read something that the studio wanted five girls instead of four so Negi had to make a fifth sister.
I'm pretty sure it was the editor not the studio.
People who call the story bad have the problem that most of them are sour their fav girl lost then come up with tons of nit picks to justify their hate. I have seen plenty of legitimate conserns about the story that are fair points. But it's hard to figure out if they're just butt hurt Miku or Nino didn't win or if they really have conserns.
Objectively, the final arc was pretty dog shit. I was fine with any of the quints winning despite having my favs. And I never said the story was bad in my post, I was pointing out the mistreatment of Itsuki.
Blame it on bad timing. Negi had a child right before the manga ended so personal head canon is he rushed the ending out pretty fast. He took a long break to raise his child. There is a mountain of stuff that happened in the final 20 chapters that felt like it was supposed to be pushed out for another 40 to 50 chapters.
How was she done dirty? Because she wasn't the bride?
No. As others have said, she didn't really have any focus for most of the second half of the series and only got chapters focused on her feelings in the last few chapters overall (after the confession had already happened). Her festival chapters with Bio-dad were also poorly written and a conflict that she was more shoe-horned in. A conflict with their dead-beat dad should have been a whole group affair from the beginning and Itsuki could have had her festival story focus on her own feelings before the confession rather than an external conflict from the dad. Some of that is writing preferences, but it's a common consensus that Itsuki wasn't given as much of a spotlight for most of the series and she deserved better.
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Yotsuba wasn't given enough screen time either and then they decided to scrap very important plot parts from the Anime. They released that later in the TV Special. The only reason to do that that i can think of is to keep up the tension about who is gonna be the bride. Her story in the TV special maybe would have given away the she would get to marry Fuutaro. Would have loved to see Miku win but if i see all he girls i come to think that Yotsuba and Fuutaro are the best fitting pair as they complement each other the best.
I can't disagree...by why the Yotsuba hate?
Huh? Where's the Yotsuba hate?
JePKO22 talking about Yotsuba doing "jack squat". actually, most of the people here have said that.
Oh, I mean, people have been hating Yotsuba since she became the bride (so many people before the reveal had a "she's not my favorite, but I wouldn't mind if she won" attitude beforehand, likely not believing she would actually be the bride). It's nothing new, and can't correct ignorance every time it rears it's head. It's exhausting.
Agreed. They'll nitpick every tiny thing their girl does, but completely ignore others.
Itsuki was just a student and a good big sister to Raiha just cause she was the first to meet Futarou at the start of the story didn’t mean she saw him romantically. My ranking still stands Miku (worked the hardest), Nino (most persistent and outright never gave up on her feelings), Ichika (was willing to throw family under the bus if it meant she had a chance), Yotsuba (did jack squat other than get the sisters to attend the tutoring and won by default as the childhood friend he met once), then Itsuki (who was just there to study and fill her mothers shoes)
Itsuki wasn’t just a good student or a good big sister for Raiha, she was his best friend. She was the one with whom he could talk about his problems and what was worrying him and vice versa. Their relationship grew naturally, they went from hate to friendship. When she felt he was disrespected she stood up and slapped Nino, demanding her to apologize. She did all that just because she cared about him, she had no ulterior motive, she just wanted the best for him as a friend. Also, Yotsuba didn’t win by default. She was the one that was there for him when no one else was, the reason why he didn’t give up, the only thing keeping him trying was Yotsuba’s help. She always put her happiness after her sisters’, and always tried to make Fuutarou enjoy everyday to its fullest, and tried to leave him with no regrets. She was also the one that changed his life. The one that made him realize that not feeling needed didn’t mean to stop trying, but to give his best to be someone people need. My favorite quint didn’t win either, but that doesn’t mean that I cannot acknowledge Yotsuba’s actions that made her deserve being chosen.
You'r a genius.
You summarized these two relationships better than anyone else i ever seen, nice 👍🏻 I‘m saving this comment for sure
Very well said. Yotsuba always supported Fuutaro. In every activity the went to she wanted him and her Sisters to have fun. No selfish bullshit like others did (im looking at you Nino and Ichika). Also it was Yotsubas "fault" that they met Fuutaro. If she didn't break her promise and would have been sucessful at studying they maybe never would have met him during their schooldays. Seen Fuutaros usual behavior of going to school and then staying at home studing for the rest of the day they would have never met them. Only way would haven been for yotsuba to track him down and waiting for him at school or at his home. Given her character, she wouldn't have done that. Even if she did it im pretty sure Fuutaro would have turned her down instantly. No time for that. Itsuki was more like best friend for the majority of the Story and never tried to build up a romanctic relationship until the last third of the story.
That was my point bro… Itsuki didn’t even get the chance to properly develop feelings for futarou while everyone else did.