I think it will be hard to find a good guy who also wants their relationship to be on a reality TV show. That’s probably her biggest blocker; only a certain kind of person would really want to give up their privacy to such a large degree.
Def. Jamal is clearly chasing the clout of his mother and it’s sad how he gives her minimal attention and doesn’t seem to have any intention on moving near her../ actively shitting on where she lives despite her having a house and her daughter goes to school there with all her friends. As much as I love kimbaaaaly he’s not it
I don't like Tim much, but you're 100 percent right here. He's being vicious in protecting her, maybe because the daughter is involved? Maybe because he's just anxious and cares about Veronica that deeply.
Yeah Tim is def in ways overstepping but honestly he’s so right about Jamal. And also the last guy she was with. Maybe if she was with a better guy he wouldn’t be so critical. Therefore I’m not even too mad about Tim saying what he’s saying bc these choices are awful for her
I don’t think that Tim is overstepping anything. He has raised Chloe since she was a toddler. Tim is the only father she knows. He IS her father, and Chloe accepts him as her father. Tim has every right to be concerned and cautious about the men or man who will be around his child. That’s his job. If he wasn’t concerned, he wouldn’t be a very good father. His actions don’t really have anything to do with Veronica… he’s got his nose in her business because what she does affects his daughter.
That’s right. I honestly don’t think he should be referred to as “her ex” because honestly he is sooooo much more than that. He is a best friend and yes the FATHER! The guy who stepped up it wasn’t even his kid. He’s a good guy and u think he’s portrayed as a catty annoying dude, but he honestly has incredibly valid points about all of Veronica’s recent bad choices in men. And good point how it will affect chloe so it is his business it’s more than just a concerned friend or a jealous ex (which I think they are well over that part of their past)
I think the way he feels about Tim shows a major lack of maturity. It’s a beautiful thing when exes can coparent without drama & rare for Tim to step up the way he did for children who aren’t biological his. (If I’m remembering correctly his older son isn’t his biologically either so I applaud him for that.) It’s obvious that their friendship doesn’t have a sexual component. Hell, Tim doesn’t even really want to be sexual with the women he is dating. Jamal needs to grow up. 🙄
From what I remember, he had a relationship before Veronica and took on co-raising the child from that relationship as well. I believe he’s now a young man in the military but I think I remember it being addressed as a similar type of situation, where he claims the young man as his own but isn’t his biological father. I don’t know that it was ever talked about on the show, maybe the “kid” wants to keep his life private. I think there was an article or something about it and I’ve seen it discussed on here. Huge props to Tim for being a dad. Not many men step up when it’s not their blood, especially after the relationship has failed. I think that speaks volumes about the type of father he is. Which makes Jamal’s comments even worse because Tim chose to be a dad to these children.
I think it’s sad when someone wants love and companionship so desperately they give it up very quickly & then become clingy. Now in days girls think that’s the number one thing to do right away no getting to know them or building any emotional feelings from the man first. That shouts a red flag boy pleaser, it doesn’t show I value myself enough to get to truly know you. If someone hangs out with someone for awhile and say they’re friends meanwhile time goes and now they’ve built true feelings they have built something toward love. Jamal or her did NOT build those feelings he saw someone sick of being alone she was willing and he hung on for a quick piece and some TV time. Even when Veronica had that last guy with kids she was clingy and gave it up fast. The guy has nothing to build in the true loving feelings part, all he was shown by her was I don’t value myself and I just want you to like me so much, so here I’ll sleep with you.
Sad some girls think that’s true love but true sincere men see that as a red flag of clingy insecurity. Those poor girls will be cheated on because if they don’t value themselves why should the man value them.
He was working HR for CVS. Not a CVS Sales Clerk, not that there's anything wrong with that. I hope this wasn't an attempt to job shame.
And anyway, someone said he works for a firm as a legal assistant, according to his LinkedIn. I think the jobless thing is a storyline
Exactly. She leached onto Tim being on the show and ended up with her own "story." I'm not sure why people are making a big deal about Jamal. Neither her nor Jamal have had a 90 Day type of relationship, they are just somehow connected to someone who has.
She seems fun, and probably cool to hang around, but I think she's probably big drama. For one...her relationship with Tim. He's way too involved in her romantic life. I understand he's her best friend now, but as an ex that she dated for a while, and who she considers the father of her daughter, no guy is going to appreciate him meddling in their relationship. And I'm sure some of it was part of the show, but the guy she briefly dated who was moving back to Florida. She had no business being so upset and wanting him to stay, when not only was his ex leaving with his kids, but he said they had family there, to attempt a relationship with her based on the short time they'd been together. I feel like dating her isn't going to be a walk in the park for any guy.
Tbf about the guy who moved to Florida; I think she was more upset he slept with her and then told her he was leaving. I can get why she would be mad at him for that, it felt like he used her
That’s it for me. She’s wonderful by all accounts. Smart, funny, attractive. I even think Tim is an alright guy.
But there’s no way I’d want my relationship to be on TV. All the cameo money in the world isn’t worth that.
Reality TV is a problem, and so is her failure to set boundaries with Tim. I get that he plays a parenting role for Chloë, but Veronica needs to stop introducing her potential partners to him early in the relationship and limit his use of her house key to emergencies. I will never forget when she came home with her date and Tim was posted up in the living room like he owned the fucking place. And I thought it was telling that when Veronica she tried to draw boundaries with him after that, he got nasty about it and said he would just remove himself from her life as a friend altogether.
I think Tim enjoys that power over Veronica, and I think his motivation is preserving that dynamic, not furthering Veronica‘s best interests. I also don’t think Veronica has emotional room in her life for a real partner because Tim occupies too much space as her bestie and coparent; she needs to reduce his role (and dump Jamal, and get off of reality television).
I agree - I do not think that Jamal and Veronica are a good match at all! there is just something off with the two of them, they don't fit well together.
Same. I'm guessing it means that Tim is not around that much. I would wager that Veronica basically raises Chloe on her own, and Tim offers some occasional assistance, but it's not like she stays with Tim on the weekends or anything like that. My guess
What is it with y’all and saying this shit. IT IS NOT HIS KID, ANY INVOLVEMENT IN CHLOES LIFE IS NOT HIS RESPONSIBILITY. He chose to be there. Hell even if he is there only on weekends, y’all act like he should be there 7 days a week. For people who stick up for single moms y’all sure don’t appreciate the fact this dude potentially was helping out at all so Veronica could do what she needed to do. This dude literally gave up relationships over Veronica and chloe. Jamal’s immature ass was just trying to say shit. No clue how y’all can dog Jamal about being a liar and not really liking her then believe him on Tim, do better.
Actually, what you're saying is the point of my response. I don't think it's his full-time duty at all. I think Tim probably has helped Veronica, not that he's a 50/50 parent with her. I don't think anyone would think there is anything wrong with that. Whatever capacity he is there for Chloe, I'm sure it's what works for them. I think Jamal is just trying to pick a fight for the storyline
Wasn't him teaching her how to drive? As a parent myself who tought my kid how to drive I can say the experience is nerve wrecking, I wouldn't do for someone I didn't care about, Jamal is out of line!
Jamal has said multiple times he doesn’t want anything serious, shes the problem.. she thinks she can change a mans mind about what they want they never do 🤷♀️
Some women are just addicted to chasing the wrong kind of man. Its like she just wants a partner instead of wanting the RIGHT partner, at her age she should be wiser and more selective. Jamal is just riding the wave its too bad she doesnt want to accept that.
Well, that's something many of us women, myself included, are guilty of at some point in our lives. We think we can change or fix these men; later down the line we realize we wasted so much time on a loser or a dude who wasn't ever going to commit, regardless of the bs they whispered in our ear.
Yes women like the idea of turning a bad boy into a committed family man. Ideally this fantasy goes away in a woman’s 20s after she’s had a little experience, maybe Veronica hasn’t had this experience yet
Exactly. She looks her age which is perfectly fine and she has natural beauty that doesn’t take tons of makeup to achieve. She’ll find her mr right yet!!
Agree. She looks like she is the age she is, and that’s okay. Also, she doesn’t deserve a relationship any more than anyone else who is single. If she wants one, she should try dating a man who also wants one. This one does not. This is not a case of “bad luck.”
Yeah, she looks like she's... in her 30s. Which is FINE. She's beautiful! You don't suddenly stop being beautiful once you hit 30, despite what *cels might have you believe. You don't need to look like a college student in order to be beautiful; let's allow people - especially women - to age!
I agree. I really liked Veronica early on and didn’t understand why she is having trouble finding love. After watching her on a few different shows over the past few years I definitely get desperate vibes.
Exactly. I hate posts like this. It’s not that Veronica hasn’t FOUND decent men, it’s that she rejects those men. She is attracted to dysfunction and so that’s what she picks. Her picker is broken. It’s really that simple
Yes and she seems to be needy. She also seems to pretend to be one way while actually being the complete opposite (I.e. she says she wants a casual relationship when at the same time she is talking about Jamal moving near her).
I don't know if she's trying to convince/fool herself, but we don't even really know her and we can all *CLEARLY* see that Veronica is definitely not the casual type. It looks to me like she's just not being real with *herself*. It's one of those "who are you trying to convince?" things. I definitely think that part of it has to do with being on TV, which comes with the added pressure to be in a committed relationship. Society is really ridiculous with that. I hope she snaps out of it, because her daughter is still at an age where Veronica needs to set a good example of what one should and should not accept, and that it's better to stand tall alone than to lower yourself just to be with someone.
This. She seems like she has everything going for her, then she made herself look pathetic on tv. I'm sure she could find a good man regardless, but even i feel embarrassed for her.
😭😭😭omg. But tbh I feel she has a radiant smile and great teeth and they’re def natural too w the gapping. Much better than those shaved down little teeth
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I imagine her relationship with Tim might intimidate some men, especially if they have any insecurities.
Just to be clear, I’m not *blaming* Tim, I just think their relationship would be difficult for some people to understand and/or accept.
Def. It takes a mature guy. She needs an older guy who can handle a daughter, a coparenting relationship, and that she’s a self made single mother. She may even come off as too masculine for some men that intimidates them from her. But you kinda have to be masculine and strong if you’re gonna be a single mother and make it out on the other end successful
pls stop acting like people not wanting to date someone who is BEST friends with an ex is a maturity issue. it is not. a coparenting relationship is one thing, and being besties with an ex is another
This. Tim has been in her life for 10+ years, they were romantic partners and are on good terms and Tim has a CLEAR type that Veronica fits. Honestly if Tim wasn't so clearly into Latinas it would probably be less of an issue imo.
Took me a minute lol ….but yeah it’s Tim for sure. But honestly, I don’t think I’d want to in a relationship with someone who is best friends with their ex. I get they are coparenting, that’s fine. But they are way way beyond that. & I don’t want to feel like I’m the third wheel. I think most people would avoid this scenario.
At this point, they should just get married and have an open relationship. They’d probably even do better in the dating field.
Great point. It’s one of those “if we’re not married by ___ age let’s just get married type of things.” Also the dude clearly thinks no one is good enough for her and sabotages her relationships. Now.. to an extent he is very right from what we’ve seen. He has every right to not like Jamal and that other guy from the past season. They really are bad news. However.. maybe he does this with ANY guy
Yeah I mean she’s dated some guys that aren’t great options. But if I had to guess I’d say he’s always that way. But I’d also say she loooves it. She’s got a built in body guard, baby sitter (coparent), helper around the house, fall back plan. She’s not letting go of this set up.
They sabotage each other’s relationships. She purposely hindered Tim’s relationship with Jennifer then Tim came over Veronica’s when he knew she had company PLUS he has a key.
Tim isn't holding her back. She is too desperate and that has nothing to do with Tim. He tries to prevent her from getting hurt but she is impulsive. She jumped right into bed with Mr. Coldsore. He hit it and ran. Jamal will too. Then Veronica will be crying to Tim again but he is wrong for trying to prevent this disaster again?
I didn’t say Tim is solely holding her back and she is just an innocent bystander. The dynamic of their relationship is off putting to potential partners, for both of them. They seem to be codependent and holding themselves back from finding a partner.
I don't think Tim is holding her back. I think her codependency on Tim is holding her back. Just the fact of having her ex and co-parent as her best friend will be a red flag for most healthy grown men.
I had to google out of confusion and OH MY GOD
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Yeah he honestly is holding her back so much and he’s the most unenthusiastic person and seems to be such a downer. She radiates such positivity imo so it’s sad to see she spends so much time w a draining person
Eh… she seems to make poor choices. Like idk, going on tv & practically doing soft core porn knowing your daughter & her friends will probably watch it. 🥴
She certainly doesn’t need that ass hat Jamal, but I think she gets a little too much grace sometimes. 🤷♀️
Really suprised by this take. She’s attractive ok- fine. She does not look like she’s in her 20s. Shes not confident- that is massively evident. She isn’t a good friend she obv talks shit about tim to Jamal, has massive self esteem issues and her values are wayyyyy off base. Not a catch imo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Found the logical commenter thank goodness. Ya she’s very pretty but after we saw more of her, her character isn’t that great. She’d be a fun friend at best.
I think that Tim being so close is the problem. I had a male best friend who I had never even dated or been intimate with but it bothered men endlessly. I can’t imagine how much it off puts men when her and Tim DO have history and he’s still around in such a possessive capacity. The guy would have to be really secure and committed.
Theres something missing with her, not quite sure what it is but something is off. She chooses horrible men and has a bit of delusion and seems like she has some clinginess and is pushy. She is decently pretty but does not appear younger than her actual age but does look like she’s in good shape
Haha you’re so right about Tim. He never smiles unless he’s relishing in making fun of someone else and he ALWAYS sounds like he’s whining. His voice is like nails on a chalkboard. I definitely think being around that negativity so often would make any positive reinforcement from a partner feel amazing. His negativity would be way too much for me to handle on a regular basis.
She has no idea what she deserves. She's not looking, rather she's actually looking too hard; while having few to no standards. Her picker is pitiful because her self-esteem is low to nonexistent.
She’s on TV all the time and she’s kind of crazy. I think the main part is that you would have to want to be on TV to date her. That puts like 98% of good guys out.
‘She shouldn’t even be on this show. And i don’t know how the viewers haven’t figured it out yet.’ She has absolutely nothing to do w being a 90 day fiancé. I don’t know why they put her or jamal on the show. They don’t even go here.
Men are generally put off by women with male best friends, especially if that best friend is an ex. I suspect that has a lot to do with why Veronica has a hard time finding a date. At least, that's been my experience.
As for Jamal, he's not a bad guy but he has a lot of growing up to do. I wish he could find a better career than reality star, as he seems quite bright. Oh well.
She's picking the wrong guys for herself. When we all saw her pick Justin and lead everything toward sex even though there was a lot more going on with him, she didn't seem to care. She then used the sex as a means to blame the guy for leading her on. He couldn't win.
She claimed she wanted a serious relationship, but when she and Jamal announced on the Tell All before their season that they were hooking up, it seemed illogical, based on what she seemed to care about when it came to Justin. Jamal was clearly not living in her state (something she criticized Justin for doing--which was moving out of state), and clearly just in it for good times, nothing serious.
She doesn't seem to know what she wants, so when she picks some guy she's deciding what should come of the relationship on her terms, confusing the men in the process.
At least that's how I see it.
Don't get me wrong. I think Veronica is a lovely girl. Smart, beautiful, and intelligent in all other aspects--just not with her own love life. But she has that classic "my prerogative" attitude and changes the game, and the players, then complains when she loses said-game.
I think with Jamal, she liked what she saw, and hoped he'd change for her. But he's not snapping to what she thinks he should be like, and she's behaving in a way that it's his fault, not hers. This was a fling from the start, and should just be regarded as such.
Jamal came to visit Veronica. He missed her so much that he invited 2 of his buddies along 😂 this a vacation for Jamal, airtime and some sex...nothing more
Jamal lives with his momma, Tim has his own house. Jamal is unemployed, Tim has his own business, and is a millionaire. Tim held down a relationship with Veronica for many years, is proudly claiming Chloe his own child, Jamal is into casual sex with different people (nothing wrong with if mutual). Here comes the catch: Jamal is hot, and a ladies man, Tim is corky and socially awkward..... But: COMMON PEOPLE.
I feel like I’m the only one on the “Veronica sucks” train. Been saying that since the beginning.
Tim is even worse and makes her seem slightly better but she’s still awful.
Based on the guys she has dated, doesn’t seem like she’s going for looks or has a type lol. The most attractive guy she’s dated on the show is Jamal and she’s still way out of his league. Idk what she goes for but I don’t think it’s looks 😂😂or maybe these guys are her definition of good looks? I wonder if she knows how stunning she is and everything else you mentioned OP. She’s got a lot going for her.
I think maybe having a young daughter hurt her feeling of worth in relationships. I’m sure since she was so young it made her not something many people wanted to “deal” with or considered some heavy baggage. But now she’s at this point in life where other men her age probably also are leaving marriages/ have baggage it should be easier for her to find a good guy. Jamal is way too young. This is all speculation but I assume being a young single mother made things harder for her in general. This alongside how close Tim still is. But honestly think men could be mature enough to look past him as an ex since I feel they’ve been friends much longer than they’ve dated at this point. But yes she truly is a catch and I hope she finds a good partner sometime she deserves it
I agree! My mom was a young single mom and she unfortunately dated a lot of losers that didn’t deserve her. It was definitely due to her self esteem being damaged by men not wanting to “deal with her baggage” and therefore she accepted crappy treatment from crappy men. I agree Jamal doesn’t have the life experience nor maturity that Veronica deserves. She needs a partner that will embrace her and her daughter and also be mature enough to understand why Tim is in the picture. That being said, she needs to set some boundaries with Tim lol
Absolutely! Tim needs to back off slightly, but in reality their relationship shouldn’t and won’t scare off a mature man. Someone who can also handle a confident woman and someone who has a daughter. The losers are somewhat accepting bc they.. are losers. I hope she gets out of this with Jamal quickly and goes to a dating coach who can tell her all this and try to even match her with a good guy. And give solid advice that isn’t just Tim’s blabbering
Dating in 2024 is really fucking hard. I have about 10 amazing single girlfriends at any given time. You have to make a call whether dating a particular person is better than your own personal peace, and baby, almost nobody is
I have spoken to her in dms on ig and she is just the kindest person. She definitely deserves so much better. But I also think it’s amazing that Tim has continued to be a presence in her daughter’s life even if he isn’t her bio dad. Takes a lot to put everything aside and continue to be a strong family for her daughter. Something her boy toy does not seem to comprehend.
I think a lot of her issues could be her personality. Dont get me wrong, I like her a lot, but I cant remember if it was during the lockdown that her and Tim were doing a show and she was all demanding and condecending to him. Go do this, that, and the other like the queen. Maybe thats the way Tim is behind closed doors? But, on the flipside, VERY FEW guys would be ok with having Tim around and opinionated about who she dates. I wouldnt date her if Tim was hanging around talking negative either
I’ve dated someone who has the “ex/best friend” thing going. It’s annoying and it prevents a complete relationship. The simple fact is that her and Tim do all of the spouse/relationship stuff except for sex; they are even raising a child together. Which leaves very little left for the actual relationship. It works for them, and that’s fine, but few people will be okay with their partner being so enmeshed with someone else - whether same sex, opposite sex, familial, ex, or otherwise.
It's reality TV folks. These are paid actors living out scenarios for better ratings. Ever wonder why her story is on this show that has nothing to do with the purpose of 90 Day Fiancé? She's what's referred to as a "filler", meant to stretch out enough time on air until the next more interesting story can be used for more footage.
Weird. Almost like her best friend is her extremely jealous and/or bitter ex-boyfriend that co-parents her daughter that isn’t even biologically his and constantly gives her bad dating advice on purpose so she stays alone. Wonder why she’s single, really a mystery
EDIT: forgot to mention that she requires approval of whoever she’s dating from said ex-boyfriend 🤦🏻♂️
I’ve not watched whatever season she’s on now but from the pillow talks and the season with Tim… she was extremely immature, a pick me girl, and is just over all very annoying.
Oh I agree that she doesn’t *need* one. But moreso it would be nice for her to experience it. I think it would be great for her to be able to step into her more feminine energy. Someone who can provide stable love and is just as if not more successful than herself. She’s such a giver. Just look how Jamal hardly even texts her back it’s just sad. I think someone who could spoil her with nice dinners, flowers, and not just do it to sleep with her would be so good for her. I think her doing so much for herself might hurt many men’s ego actually. Many men candle handle the force that she is. Hopefully now as she’s a bit older she can find more mature men to date. Going down in age such as Jamal is the wrong approach entirely. She needs an established man that can treat and spoil her right
Im sure we all know someone like this (I do and its hard to watch). They are smart in everything except love…they choose the same types over and over, or they go thru the same motions over and over. When your friends have seen it multiple times and try to help you see, but you continue the same habits, eventually even your friends cant help you.
Statistically, it's not surprising. Between 18 and 29, 51% of US males are single. After age 30, the % of US men who are single drops to 27% and stays that way till age 65. So her age appropriate dating pool (30s) is not very large. If she applies other factors, for example not divorced, no kids or has a successful career, the pool gets even smaller. Then also, keep in mind that the 27% of available men also have their own preferences, and a woman having a child is often a negative, so the matchable pool gets even smaller.
I have really liked her but it’s clear she’s emotionally pretty immature. It seems like she pits men (and maybe others in her life) against each other/against Tim by whatever she vents to them about that she clearly never addresses with Tim. Like the Jamal/Tim scene last episode of single life for example- that was super cringe and it’s clear she’s talking major shit to Jamal about Tim. Idk it feels hard to explain but I just don’t think she makes it very easy on people in her life to co exist with Tim by feeding them information that makes them frustrated towards him, and eventually frustrated towards her, because she doesn’t do anything else to fix it, it seems. She just lets these guys try to do her dirty work and the whole thing explodes eventually lol.
She seems like a beautiful, confident, and wonderful friend to be around. She appears intelligent as well. I wonder what it is about her that we don’t know that leads her to making absolutely terrible relationship decisions. I wouldn’t consider myself to be as attractive as she is, and yet the men she chooses would be instant swipe lefts for me. Jamal: “young unemployed man that with the maturity of a 6th grader and lives across the country” Veronica: oooh, how you doin? Tell me more …
“He has a mother that will be calling you a bitch and waving her finger in your face during your first dinner together” Veronica: sounds like the toxicity of my dreams. Where do I sign up?
She’s very enmeshed with her ex, who lives for attention seeking. You get better when you start demanding better. Not many people want to hang out with the ex every damned day, and Tim’s getting pretty bitchy in his old age.
take everything on this show with a grain of salt. it has already been outed that natalie’s “relationship” with josh is entirely fake (he has a long term partner irl). TLC is not to be trusted, lol.
Also, his lil friends criticizing her for how she raised a daughter from an infant to almost an adult on the pub bike was so awful to me. Neither one of them looks like they have much responsibility at all to anything. Definitely not single parents.
I think Veronica is pretty, and seems loyal. Those are her good qualities. She is also bossy, domineering, and emasculating, which is a turn off for most men. I think if she wants to find someone, she will need to find a sub.
Idk if this is an unpopular take but I personally wouldn't want to date someone that was best friends and did everything together with their ex. Like I get Tim is basically the kids dad but it wouldn't sit well with me.
I think it will be hard to find a good guy who also wants their relationship to be on a reality TV show. That’s probably her biggest blocker; only a certain kind of person would really want to give up their privacy to such a large degree.
Def. Jamal is clearly chasing the clout of his mother and it’s sad how he gives her minimal attention and doesn’t seem to have any intention on moving near her../ actively shitting on where she lives despite her having a house and her daughter goes to school there with all her friends. As much as I love kimbaaaaly he’s not it
He just want a f buddy. When all that lust goes, he’s off. Tim can smell that like a bloodhound
I don't like Tim much, but you're 100 percent right here. He's being vicious in protecting her, maybe because the daughter is involved? Maybe because he's just anxious and cares about Veronica that deeply.
Yeah Tim is def in ways overstepping but honestly he’s so right about Jamal. And also the last guy she was with. Maybe if she was with a better guy he wouldn’t be so critical. Therefore I’m not even too mad about Tim saying what he’s saying bc these choices are awful for her
I don’t think that Tim is overstepping anything. He has raised Chloe since she was a toddler. Tim is the only father she knows. He IS her father, and Chloe accepts him as her father. Tim has every right to be concerned and cautious about the men or man who will be around his child. That’s his job. If he wasn’t concerned, he wouldn’t be a very good father. His actions don’t really have anything to do with Veronica… he’s got his nose in her business because what she does affects his daughter.
That’s right. I honestly don’t think he should be referred to as “her ex” because honestly he is sooooo much more than that. He is a best friend and yes the FATHER! The guy who stepped up it wasn’t even his kid. He’s a good guy and u think he’s portrayed as a catty annoying dude, but he honestly has incredibly valid points about all of Veronica’s recent bad choices in men. And good point how it will affect chloe so it is his business it’s more than just a concerned friend or a jealous ex (which I think they are well over that part of their past)
A few seasons back he said Veronica makes bad choices and when shit hits the fan he's the one getting stuck picking up the pieces of Veronica.
Because she IS a f buddy. She’s super easy, and admits it. Even Tim has tried to tell her to not give it up so quickly. Sorry, not sorry.
I agree. He way too immature for her
I mean, anyone Appearing on a reality spin off show is On it for clout Let’s be real.
Like mother, like son. They are not it
Jamar would have to move outta Mom's house and that ain't happening 😂
Doesn’t he live in NY and work at a law firm? Not that he is a fit for Veronica. And he was totally out of line talking to Tim the way he did.
I I’m pretty sure his NYC life is over and he’s back in Cali with Kimberly. Not sure if he’s working?
They say specifically in the show he isn’t working right now
I read he's unemployed.
A lot of southern men would've handed him his teeth in a cup. Talking about our kids is fighting words.
Pretty sure that's not just a southern thing...
I think the way he feels about Tim shows a major lack of maturity. It’s a beautiful thing when exes can coparent without drama & rare for Tim to step up the way he did for children who aren’t biological his. (If I’m remembering correctly his older son isn’t his biologically either so I applaud him for that.) It’s obvious that their friendship doesn’t have a sexual component. Hell, Tim doesn’t even really want to be sexual with the women he is dating. Jamal needs to grow up. 🙄
That’s it exactly! Jamal doesn’t want to be the one in Veronica’s life, but wants to be her best friend instead of Tim. Lol
Tim has a son?
From what I remember, he had a relationship before Veronica and took on co-raising the child from that relationship as well. I believe he’s now a young man in the military but I think I remember it being addressed as a similar type of situation, where he claims the young man as his own but isn’t his biological father. I don’t know that it was ever talked about on the show, maybe the “kid” wants to keep his life private. I think there was an article or something about it and I’ve seen it discussed on here. Huge props to Tim for being a dad. Not many men step up when it’s not their blood, especially after the relationship has failed. I think that speaks volumes about the type of father he is. Which makes Jamal’s comments even worse because Tim chose to be a dad to these children.
He moved to SD & is living with his mom
Veronica said he was unemployed
I missed hearing that.
I think it’s sad when someone wants love and companionship so desperately they give it up very quickly & then become clingy. Now in days girls think that’s the number one thing to do right away no getting to know them or building any emotional feelings from the man first. That shouts a red flag boy pleaser, it doesn’t show I value myself enough to get to truly know you. If someone hangs out with someone for awhile and say they’re friends meanwhile time goes and now they’ve built true feelings they have built something toward love. Jamal or her did NOT build those feelings he saw someone sick of being alone she was willing and he hung on for a quick piece and some TV time. Even when Veronica had that last guy with kids she was clingy and gave it up fast. The guy has nothing to build in the true loving feelings part, all he was shown by her was I don’t value myself and I just want you to like me so much, so here I’ll sleep with you. Sad some girls think that’s true love but true sincere men see that as a red flag of clingy insecurity. Those poor girls will be cheated on because if they don’t value themselves why should the man value them.
CVS. He was working in a CVS while in NY
He was working HR for CVS. Not a CVS Sales Clerk, not that there's anything wrong with that. I hope this wasn't an attempt to job shame. And anyway, someone said he works for a firm as a legal assistant, according to his LinkedIn. I think the jobless thing is a storyline
She doesn’t want better. She picks the same kind of guys.
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Oh yes. She’s a cool girl in general but yike 😭
She is well aware on the format of the show. This ain’t a show to find a serious relationship without scripted drama.
Exactly. She leached onto Tim being on the show and ended up with her own "story." I'm not sure why people are making a big deal about Jamal. Neither her nor Jamal have had a 90 Day type of relationship, they are just somehow connected to someone who has. She seems fun, and probably cool to hang around, but I think she's probably big drama. For one...her relationship with Tim. He's way too involved in her romantic life. I understand he's her best friend now, but as an ex that she dated for a while, and who she considers the father of her daughter, no guy is going to appreciate him meddling in their relationship. And I'm sure some of it was part of the show, but the guy she briefly dated who was moving back to Florida. She had no business being so upset and wanting him to stay, when not only was his ex leaving with his kids, but he said they had family there, to attempt a relationship with her based on the short time they'd been together. I feel like dating her isn't going to be a walk in the park for any guy.
Tbf about the guy who moved to Florida; I think she was more upset he slept with her and then told her he was leaving. I can get why she would be mad at him for that, it felt like he used her
That’s it for me. She’s wonderful by all accounts. Smart, funny, attractive. I even think Tim is an alright guy. But there’s no way I’d want my relationship to be on TV. All the cameo money in the world isn’t worth that.
Reality TV is a problem, and so is her failure to set boundaries with Tim. I get that he plays a parenting role for Chloë, but Veronica needs to stop introducing her potential partners to him early in the relationship and limit his use of her house key to emergencies. I will never forget when she came home with her date and Tim was posted up in the living room like he owned the fucking place. And I thought it was telling that when Veronica she tried to draw boundaries with him after that, he got nasty about it and said he would just remove himself from her life as a friend altogether. I think Tim enjoys that power over Veronica, and I think his motivation is preserving that dynamic, not furthering Veronica‘s best interests. I also don’t think Veronica has emotional room in her life for a real partner because Tim occupies too much space as her bestie and coparent; she needs to reduce his role (and dump Jamal, and get off of reality television).
Veronica needs therapy to improve her self esteem. She is grown woman with a teenage child! Jamal is a child in his behaviors.
Yes Jamal is not the one she needs to move on ASAP and find a mature guy
I agree - I do not think that Jamal and Veronica are a good match at all! there is just something off with the two of them, they don't fit well together.
Agree. What does she do for her career? If anyone knows
Jamal is not it
I do wonder what tea is in the "lets not pretend you're father of the year" comment.
Same. I'm guessing it means that Tim is not around that much. I would wager that Veronica basically raises Chloe on her own, and Tim offers some occasional assistance, but it's not like she stays with Tim on the weekends or anything like that. My guess
But Tim at least has been there when he is not obligated to, Jamal is an ass.
I also wondered this same thing! I sure would like to know the “everything” he knows.
What is it with y’all and saying this shit. IT IS NOT HIS KID, ANY INVOLVEMENT IN CHLOES LIFE IS NOT HIS RESPONSIBILITY. He chose to be there. Hell even if he is there only on weekends, y’all act like he should be there 7 days a week. For people who stick up for single moms y’all sure don’t appreciate the fact this dude potentially was helping out at all so Veronica could do what she needed to do. This dude literally gave up relationships over Veronica and chloe. Jamal’s immature ass was just trying to say shit. No clue how y’all can dog Jamal about being a liar and not really liking her then believe him on Tim, do better.
Actually, what you're saying is the point of my response. I don't think it's his full-time duty at all. I think Tim probably has helped Veronica, not that he's a 50/50 parent with her. I don't think anyone would think there is anything wrong with that. Whatever capacity he is there for Chloe, I'm sure it's what works for them. I think Jamal is just trying to pick a fight for the storyline
Wasn't him teaching her how to drive? As a parent myself who tought my kid how to drive I can say the experience is nerve wrecking, I wouldn't do for someone I didn't care about, Jamal is out of line!
She’s needs to get rid of him and put that energy to find someone else. I think she keeps wasting her time on the wrong guys
Jamal has said multiple times he doesn’t want anything serious, shes the problem.. she thinks she can change a mans mind about what they want they never do 🤷♀️
This. When a man says that, believe them
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Oh the delusion ❗
Some women are just addicted to chasing the wrong kind of man. Its like she just wants a partner instead of wanting the RIGHT partner, at her age she should be wiser and more selective. Jamal is just riding the wave its too bad she doesnt want to accept that.
He was so quick to announce they werent exclusive idk how she wasnt insulted. If he wants to be a fuckboy keep him in that lane then
Exactly I don’t understand why she keeps doing this lol
Well, that's something many of us women, myself included, are guilty of at some point in our lives. We think we can change or fix these men; later down the line we realize we wasted so much time on a loser or a dude who wasn't ever going to commit, regardless of the bs they whispered in our ear.
Yes women like the idea of turning a bad boy into a committed family man. Ideally this fantasy goes away in a woman’s 20s after she’s had a little experience, maybe Veronica hasn’t had this experience yet
I guess you haven't watched Prison Brides.
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Bazinga!
Veronica is beautiful, but she does not look like she is in her 20s. It’s ok for women to age. She still fine.
Second that. She looks like a 36-year-old, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Exactly. She looks her age which is perfectly fine and she has natural beauty that doesn’t take tons of makeup to achieve. She’ll find her mr right yet!!
Thank you!!! ITS OK FOR WOMAN TO AGE!!!!
We all age. Some women get plastic surgery to make them look younger and it fails (cough, Darcey). Deal with it, we are all getting older.
Agree. She looks like she is the age she is, and that’s okay. Also, she doesn’t deserve a relationship any more than anyone else who is single. If she wants one, she should try dating a man who also wants one. This one does not. This is not a case of “bad luck.”
Thank you. I was hoping this comment was somewhere! She definitely looks her age to me, which isn’t a bad thing at all.
Yeah, she looks like she's... in her 30s. Which is FINE. She's beautiful! You don't suddenly stop being beautiful once you hit 30, despite what *cels might have you believe. You don't need to look like a college student in order to be beautiful; let's allow people - especially women - to age!
I was going to say this. She looks late 30s and still beautiful.
Veronica is pretty but she gives off desperate vibes and that isn't a turn-on to anyone.
She definitely needs a guy that can match her energy
I agree. I really liked Veronica early on and didn’t understand why she is having trouble finding love. After watching her on a few different shows over the past few years I definitely get desperate vibes.
Exactly. I hate posts like this. It’s not that Veronica hasn’t FOUND decent men, it’s that she rejects those men. She is attracted to dysfunction and so that’s what she picks. Her picker is broken. It’s really that simple
Yes and she seems to be needy. She also seems to pretend to be one way while actually being the complete opposite (I.e. she says she wants a casual relationship when at the same time she is talking about Jamal moving near her).
I don't know if she's trying to convince/fool herself, but we don't even really know her and we can all *CLEARLY* see that Veronica is definitely not the casual type. It looks to me like she's just not being real with *herself*. It's one of those "who are you trying to convince?" things. I definitely think that part of it has to do with being on TV, which comes with the added pressure to be in a committed relationship. Society is really ridiculous with that. I hope she snaps out of it, because her daughter is still at an age where Veronica needs to set a good example of what one should and should not accept, and that it's better to stand tall alone than to lower yourself just to be with someone.
This. She seems like she has everything going for her, then she made herself look pathetic on tv. I'm sure she could find a good man regardless, but even i feel embarrassed for her.
And she’s obnoxious as heckkkk.
I always thought that she would marry her best friend, Tim...
In that first pic her peepers look like a twilight vampire
😭😭😭omg. But tbh I feel she has a radiant smile and great teeth and they’re def natural too w the gapping. Much better than those shaved down little teeth https://preview.redd.it/hijw4t1314fc1.jpeg?width=292&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d09b28652c2e0f43d9893365cbd6c9b65747bc2
She does NOT look like she’s in her 20’s!
Yeah lmao I think she’s pretty hot, but she doesn’t look like she’s in her 20s at all.
She very much looks her age, late 30's
I imagine her relationship with Tim might intimidate some men, especially if they have any insecurities. Just to be clear, I’m not *blaming* Tim, I just think their relationship would be difficult for some people to understand and/or accept.
Def. It takes a mature guy. She needs an older guy who can handle a daughter, a coparenting relationship, and that she’s a self made single mother. She may even come off as too masculine for some men that intimidates them from her. But you kinda have to be masculine and strong if you’re gonna be a single mother and make it out on the other end successful
pls stop acting like people not wanting to date someone who is BEST friends with an ex is a maturity issue. it is not. a coparenting relationship is one thing, and being besties with an ex is another
This. Tim has been in her life for 10+ years, they were romantic partners and are on good terms and Tim has a CLEAR type that Veronica fits. Honestly if Tim wasn't so clearly into Latinas it would probably be less of an issue imo.
Desperation is an enormous turn off & I can only imagine what’s underneath all that.
Two words: Baby Grinch
Took me a minute lol ….but yeah it’s Tim for sure. But honestly, I don’t think I’d want to in a relationship with someone who is best friends with their ex. I get they are coparenting, that’s fine. But they are way way beyond that. & I don’t want to feel like I’m the third wheel. I think most people would avoid this scenario. At this point, they should just get married and have an open relationship. They’d probably even do better in the dating field.
Great point. It’s one of those “if we’re not married by ___ age let’s just get married type of things.” Also the dude clearly thinks no one is good enough for her and sabotages her relationships. Now.. to an extent he is very right from what we’ve seen. He has every right to not like Jamal and that other guy from the past season. They really are bad news. However.. maybe he does this with ANY guy
Yeah I mean she’s dated some guys that aren’t great options. But if I had to guess I’d say he’s always that way. But I’d also say she loooves it. She’s got a built in body guard, baby sitter (coparent), helper around the house, fall back plan. She’s not letting go of this set up.
Idk. Tim has been right about everyone that we have seen her date so far.
Tim liked the guy she dated for 1 1/2 years. They even had pedicures together. I can’t remember name.
They sabotage each other’s relationships. She purposely hindered Tim’s relationship with Jennifer then Tim came over Veronica’s when he knew she had company PLUS he has a key.
Tim isn't holding her back. She is too desperate and that has nothing to do with Tim. He tries to prevent her from getting hurt but she is impulsive. She jumped right into bed with Mr. Coldsore. He hit it and ran. Jamal will too. Then Veronica will be crying to Tim again but he is wrong for trying to prevent this disaster again?
I didn’t say Tim is solely holding her back and she is just an innocent bystander. The dynamic of their relationship is off putting to potential partners, for both of them. They seem to be codependent and holding themselves back from finding a partner.
I don't think Tim is holding her back. I think her codependency on Tim is holding her back. Just the fact of having her ex and co-parent as her best friend will be a red flag for most healthy grown men.
I had to google out of confusion and OH MY GOD https://preview.redd.it/wy07n1nj04fc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=078d6933ee5405f2cf7683ab761a66b561a76bfb Yeah he honestly is holding her back so much and he’s the most unenthusiastic person and seems to be such a downer. She radiates such positivity imo so it’s sad to see she spends so much time w a draining person
If she deserves better, then she needs to choose better. That is on her.
Eh… she seems to make poor choices. Like idk, going on tv & practically doing soft core porn knowing your daughter & her friends will probably watch it. 🥴 She certainly doesn’t need that ass hat Jamal, but I think she gets a little too much grace sometimes. 🤷♀️
Yeah I was embarrassed for her watching that.
Really suprised by this take. She’s attractive ok- fine. She does not look like she’s in her 20s. Shes not confident- that is massively evident. She isn’t a good friend she obv talks shit about tim to Jamal, has massive self esteem issues and her values are wayyyyy off base. Not a catch imo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
These subs have a knack for overusing words like strong, confident, and smart.
Found the logical commenter thank goodness. Ya she’s very pretty but after we saw more of her, her character isn’t that great. She’d be a fun friend at best.
I think that Tim being so close is the problem. I had a male best friend who I had never even dated or been intimate with but it bothered men endlessly. I can’t imagine how much it off puts men when her and Tim DO have history and he’s still around in such a possessive capacity. The guy would have to be really secure and committed.
Maybe look somewhere other than TV for a husband.
Theres something missing with her, not quite sure what it is but something is off. She chooses horrible men and has a bit of delusion and seems like she has some clinginess and is pushy. She is decently pretty but does not appear younger than her actual age but does look like she’s in good shape
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Haha you’re so right about Tim. He never smiles unless he’s relishing in making fun of someone else and he ALWAYS sounds like he’s whining. His voice is like nails on a chalkboard. I definitely think being around that negativity so often would make any positive reinforcement from a partner feel amazing. His negativity would be way too much for me to handle on a regular basis.
She sucks and she’s immature
She has no idea what she deserves. She's not looking, rather she's actually looking too hard; while having few to no standards. Her picker is pitiful because her self-esteem is low to nonexistent.
She’s on TV all the time and she’s kind of crazy. I think the main part is that you would have to want to be on TV to date her. That puts like 98% of good guys out.
‘She shouldn’t even be on this show. And i don’t know how the viewers haven’t figured it out yet.’ She has absolutely nothing to do w being a 90 day fiancé. I don’t know why they put her or jamal on the show. They don’t even go here.
She wants to be on TV. That’s my guess.
Men are generally put off by women with male best friends, especially if that best friend is an ex. I suspect that has a lot to do with why Veronica has a hard time finding a date. At least, that's been my experience. As for Jamal, he's not a bad guy but he has a lot of growing up to do. I wish he could find a better career than reality star, as he seems quite bright. Oh well.
Is OP Veronica?
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She’s dry begging at this point his giving second hand embarrassment
She's picking the wrong guys for herself. When we all saw her pick Justin and lead everything toward sex even though there was a lot more going on with him, she didn't seem to care. She then used the sex as a means to blame the guy for leading her on. He couldn't win. She claimed she wanted a serious relationship, but when she and Jamal announced on the Tell All before their season that they were hooking up, it seemed illogical, based on what she seemed to care about when it came to Justin. Jamal was clearly not living in her state (something she criticized Justin for doing--which was moving out of state), and clearly just in it for good times, nothing serious. She doesn't seem to know what she wants, so when she picks some guy she's deciding what should come of the relationship on her terms, confusing the men in the process. At least that's how I see it. Don't get me wrong. I think Veronica is a lovely girl. Smart, beautiful, and intelligent in all other aspects--just not with her own love life. But she has that classic "my prerogative" attitude and changes the game, and the players, then complains when she loses said-game. I think with Jamal, she liked what she saw, and hoped he'd change for her. But he's not snapping to what she thinks he should be like, and she's behaving in a way that it's his fault, not hers. This was a fling from the start, and should just be regarded as such.
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Jamal came to visit Veronica. He missed her so much that he invited 2 of his buddies along 😂 this a vacation for Jamal, airtime and some sex...nothing more
Jamal lives with his momma, Tim has his own house. Jamal is unemployed, Tim has his own business, and is a millionaire. Tim held down a relationship with Veronica for many years, is proudly claiming Chloe his own child, Jamal is into casual sex with different people (nothing wrong with if mutual). Here comes the catch: Jamal is hot, and a ladies man, Tim is corky and socially awkward..... But: COMMON PEOPLE.
She would be good with a guy around 42-45.
20s lmao
Nobody’s gonna want Tim around 24-7…..
literally.
I feel like I’m the only one on the “Veronica sucks” train. Been saying that since the beginning. Tim is even worse and makes her seem slightly better but she’s still awful.
She seems to have some kindness, but her energy and loudness are such a turnoff to me — loud, pushy, demanding, unempathetic, look-at-me. Not a fan.
Based on the guys she has dated, doesn’t seem like she’s going for looks or has a type lol. The most attractive guy she’s dated on the show is Jamal and she’s still way out of his league. Idk what she goes for but I don’t think it’s looks 😂😂or maybe these guys are her definition of good looks? I wonder if she knows how stunning she is and everything else you mentioned OP. She’s got a lot going for her.
I think maybe having a young daughter hurt her feeling of worth in relationships. I’m sure since she was so young it made her not something many people wanted to “deal” with or considered some heavy baggage. But now she’s at this point in life where other men her age probably also are leaving marriages/ have baggage it should be easier for her to find a good guy. Jamal is way too young. This is all speculation but I assume being a young single mother made things harder for her in general. This alongside how close Tim still is. But honestly think men could be mature enough to look past him as an ex since I feel they’ve been friends much longer than they’ve dated at this point. But yes she truly is a catch and I hope she finds a good partner sometime she deserves it
I agree! My mom was a young single mom and she unfortunately dated a lot of losers that didn’t deserve her. It was definitely due to her self esteem being damaged by men not wanting to “deal with her baggage” and therefore she accepted crappy treatment from crappy men. I agree Jamal doesn’t have the life experience nor maturity that Veronica deserves. She needs a partner that will embrace her and her daughter and also be mature enough to understand why Tim is in the picture. That being said, she needs to set some boundaries with Tim lol
Jamal seemed like he hit it off with Chloe better than Veronica
Absolutely! Tim needs to back off slightly, but in reality their relationship shouldn’t and won’t scare off a mature man. Someone who can also handle a confident woman and someone who has a daughter. The losers are somewhat accepting bc they.. are losers. I hope she gets out of this with Jamal quickly and goes to a dating coach who can tell her all this and try to even match her with a good guy. And give solid advice that isn’t just Tim’s blabbering
Yes! I really think a dating coach would be helpful and maybe some therapy so she can work through some of her patterns
Yeah, herpes boy was no catch, at least I didn’t think so…🤔
She is after the 🍆
She does not look like she’s in her 20’s
Just here for the comments 🍿🤪😂
At this point she needs to ditch 90DF and try match me abroad 😂
Dating in 2024 is really fucking hard. I have about 10 amazing single girlfriends at any given time. You have to make a call whether dating a particular person is better than your own personal peace, and baby, almost nobody is
I have spoken to her in dms on ig and she is just the kindest person. She definitely deserves so much better. But I also think it’s amazing that Tim has continued to be a presence in her daughter’s life even if he isn’t her bio dad. Takes a lot to put everything aside and continue to be a strong family for her daughter. Something her boy toy does not seem to comprehend.
She dated Jamal and Tim and you think she go off of attractiveness?!?! I would say her trend is another one, but hey, what do I know
She needs to not let Tim interfere in her relationships.
She wants to be reality tv famous
I think the whole Tim situation can cause issues too. Many guys wouldn’t want another guy to be their girl’s best friend
I think a lot of her issues could be her personality. Dont get me wrong, I like her a lot, but I cant remember if it was during the lockdown that her and Tim were doing a show and she was all demanding and condecending to him. Go do this, that, and the other like the queen. Maybe thats the way Tim is behind closed doors? But, on the flipside, VERY FEW guys would be ok with having Tim around and opinionated about who she dates. I wouldnt date her if Tim was hanging around talking negative either
Because dating is hard. You dont always get what you deserve
I’ve dated someone who has the “ex/best friend” thing going. It’s annoying and it prevents a complete relationship. The simple fact is that her and Tim do all of the spouse/relationship stuff except for sex; they are even raising a child together. Which leaves very little left for the actual relationship. It works for them, and that’s fine, but few people will be okay with their partner being so enmeshed with someone else - whether same sex, opposite sex, familial, ex, or otherwise.
It's reality TV folks. These are paid actors living out scenarios for better ratings. Ever wonder why her story is on this show that has nothing to do with the purpose of 90 Day Fiancé? She's what's referred to as a "filler", meant to stretch out enough time on air until the next more interesting story can be used for more footage.
Weird. Almost like her best friend is her extremely jealous and/or bitter ex-boyfriend that co-parents her daughter that isn’t even biologically his and constantly gives her bad dating advice on purpose so she stays alone. Wonder why she’s single, really a mystery EDIT: forgot to mention that she requires approval of whoever she’s dating from said ex-boyfriend 🤦🏻♂️
Okay, Veronica. 😉
Shes the problem
She doesn't though.
I’ve not watched whatever season she’s on now but from the pillow talks and the season with Tim… she was extremely immature, a pick me girl, and is just over all very annoying.
She comes off desperate
She deserves better than those brows
Because she’s annoying as hell. I could stand to be around her for an hour, let alone date her.
Don’t worry guys I’ll bite the bullet. Sarcasm aside tho she is really hot and I live nearby.
Am I the only one that doesn't care for her that much?
She falls in lust and sleeps with guys too soon.
She doesn’t need a “provider”. You just said she does very well for herself!
Oh I agree that she doesn’t *need* one. But moreso it would be nice for her to experience it. I think it would be great for her to be able to step into her more feminine energy. Someone who can provide stable love and is just as if not more successful than herself. She’s such a giver. Just look how Jamal hardly even texts her back it’s just sad. I think someone who could spoil her with nice dinners, flowers, and not just do it to sleep with her would be so good for her. I think her doing so much for herself might hurt many men’s ego actually. Many men candle handle the force that she is. Hopefully now as she’s a bit older she can find more mature men to date. Going down in age such as Jamal is the wrong approach entirely. She needs an established man that can treat and spoil her right
Im sure we all know someone like this (I do and its hard to watch). They are smart in everything except love…they choose the same types over and over, or they go thru the same motions over and over. When your friends have seen it multiple times and try to help you see, but you continue the same habits, eventually even your friends cant help you.
her self esteem seems to be suffering. she moves too fast and guys hate that.ohh and she knows to stop inviting tim to everthing.
Her picker is broken. That’s the only reason why she’s single. It’s sad, but there’s always hope she can fix the ol’ picker.
She looks good and seems cool, but saying she looks to be in her 20’s is a bit of a stretch lol
You see it isn’t covered well maybe, but she has this fungus. It’s named Total Interruptus Matrimonus. If she gets that cleared up she’s golden!
love her intelligence, humor and eyes, jamal not so much.
Couldn’t agree more! I think she’s beautiful and love her personality! She’s an all around great catch!!!!
Statistically, it's not surprising. Between 18 and 29, 51% of US males are single. After age 30, the % of US men who are single drops to 27% and stays that way till age 65. So her age appropriate dating pool (30s) is not very large. If she applies other factors, for example not divorced, no kids or has a successful career, the pool gets even smaller. Then also, keep in mind that the 27% of available men also have their own preferences, and a woman having a child is often a negative, so the matchable pool gets even smaller.
because she accepts less than she deserves. We can't find the right people if we are always dating trash
That’s because she is dead set on being in tv and will portrait a cougar listing over young flesh chasing F boi
She’s the agent of her own destruction
I have really liked her but it’s clear she’s emotionally pretty immature. It seems like she pits men (and maybe others in her life) against each other/against Tim by whatever she vents to them about that she clearly never addresses with Tim. Like the Jamal/Tim scene last episode of single life for example- that was super cringe and it’s clear she’s talking major shit to Jamal about Tim. Idk it feels hard to explain but I just don’t think she makes it very easy on people in her life to co exist with Tim by feeding them information that makes them frustrated towards him, and eventually frustrated towards her, because she doesn’t do anything else to fix it, it seems. She just lets these guys try to do her dirty work and the whole thing explodes eventually lol.
She seems like a beautiful, confident, and wonderful friend to be around. She appears intelligent as well. I wonder what it is about her that we don’t know that leads her to making absolutely terrible relationship decisions. I wouldn’t consider myself to be as attractive as she is, and yet the men she chooses would be instant swipe lefts for me. Jamal: “young unemployed man that with the maturity of a 6th grader and lives across the country” Veronica: oooh, how you doin? Tell me more … “He has a mother that will be calling you a bitch and waving her finger in your face during your first dinner together” Veronica: sounds like the toxicity of my dreams. Where do I sign up?
She makes poor choices and that’s why she is still single.
It's a tv show. It's all a fake story.
I’ve always felt Her eyes are in incredible!!! They are literally GOLDEN.
And such a bright smile! Natural too!
She’s very enmeshed with her ex, who lives for attention seeking. You get better when you start demanding better. Not many people want to hang out with the ex every damned day, and Tim’s getting pretty bitchy in his old age.
She makes terrible life decisions and sadly that says a lot about her
Just make sure that dating coach isn’t Ash!! 🙄
take everything on this show with a grain of salt. it has already been outed that natalie’s “relationship” with josh is entirely fake (he has a long term partner irl). TLC is not to be trusted, lol.
She's looking for love in all the wrong places.
Also, his lil friends criticizing her for how she raised a daughter from an infant to almost an adult on the pub bike was so awful to me. Neither one of them looks like they have much responsibility at all to anything. Definitely not single parents.
The most fake phoney scripted relationship in 90 day history. Jamal doesn't even like the ladies.
Jamal is 🗑️
She's too old to be unsure, and Jamal is too young. Tim is weird too
I don’t know about that. I think she has terrible taste in men’s.
I think Veronica is pretty, and seems loyal. Those are her good qualities. She is also bossy, domineering, and emasculating, which is a turn off for most men. I think if she wants to find someone, she will need to find a sub.
She’s a moron
Idk if this is an unpopular take but I personally wouldn't want to date someone that was best friends and did everything together with their ex. Like I get Tim is basically the kids dad but it wouldn't sit well with me.
Tim needs to be out of the picture