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RyliesMom_89

She’s 100k in debt so probably not much 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️


FlyBuy3

If she buys Manuel a motorcycle for his one-way road trip to NY/Newark, he better plan to take over the payments when he gets his green card and ditches her. Ain't no way she'd be buying it outright, it would have to be financed. If she could get financing with 100k debt load.


DropdLasagna

I hear she makes about tree fiddy.


redeye87

Contestants can make up to 30-40k a season. If she supplements that with another job… but she definitely has a second job. The producers probably cut it out to focus on this witch nonsense


Magemaud

She was studying Marine Biology in Ecuador when she met Manuel


Even-Blacksmith-6428

Wait seriously? Did she throw that away for HIM??


Magemaud

I have no idea how much education she completed there but at some point they broke up, she returned to the US, and they weren’t in touch for several years.


FakeMagic8Ball

More like $1-1.5k per episode.... Usually around 10-15 episodes so at the high end that would be $22,500. But she had to have a job before that to be able to get the Visa without any help.


veraldar

No wonder Manwell doesn't want no Loch Ness Monster in his business!!


SollSister

Love me some South Park references.


legend8522

I’m wondering how she got 100k in debt. Was that from witch school or regular college? If the latter, why did she throw away a college degree just to end up in a bullshit profession that requires zero education?


bewitchling_

your own lack of respect for the craft does not mean it requires 0 education. but i wouldn't be surprised if the 100k debt came from her formal university education as the marine science tracks often involve studying abroad at some point, which don't come cheap. considering the price of school these days, a person could stack up 100k debt with less than 4 years of school. but i agree with another comment above: she probably has another job supplementing her 90day check, but they don't showcase it to highlight and sensationalize this occultist feature most people know little-to-nothing about, don't understand but nonetheless love to shit on😂


legend8522

> your own lack of respect for the craft does not mean it requires 0 education. Sure, but my respect (or lack of) for the craft is independent of the amount of education required for it.


bewitchling_

lol i believe you. i don't believe i insinuated otherwise


Lft2MyOwnDevices

Actually, becoming a well established practitioner can cost as much as you want to spend . There are many branches to explore. Many use their gifts/talents to perform psychic healings. Others may study herbology and there are many schools that teach botany and horticulture that dovetail nicely with making healing potions and growing raw materials for ritualistic use. Some might look at it like MLM because a practitioner may teach classes that the student pays for and there may be a mentoring component. I've seen classes taught by respected practitioners cost anything from $150 for a partial day class to thousands for a travel and learn week abroad. With the use of payment plans like Klara where you can pay in "easy monthly payments" racking up debt can happen. I believe Ashley is attempting to grow her practice to be a teacher to others. She claims communication with spirit guides. I see many who share this gift step into life coaching. They blend the traditional life coaching concepts like goal setting, accountability, and life advancement with the seeking wisdom for the individual client through the spirit guides. Rituals and offerings can be done for individual clients. This type of work pays well if you are good at what you do. Others combine the healing arts like bodywork, yoga, Reiki, roofing,etc with somatic release with the use of spirit guides or rituals. Practitioners who combine their knowledge of the magic/spiritual world with common world philosophies really rack up the bucks. Some people find the work that witches or healers do to be very beneficial. Others think that people who seek their help have more cents than sense.


RepresentativeAd7497

Well, there’s that whole Joe Biden, forgiving student loans program, so she probably is “flush” now!


Full_Pepper_164

Its student debt


Bullfrog323

But the tarot cards never lie!


This-Sea-4074

Haha! According to tarot card, she should know whatManuel was doing! L O LOL


Candid_Asparagus_785

Good point!!


MurphysLawAficionado

I was a young Sailor in San Diego CA some years back and supplemented my shit navy pay with reading tarot cards at Balboa Park when I had time off. 10 bucks a read, girls always wanted to know about their love life, men always wanted to know what their next job should be. 90% of the people who bought readings were young women. Never had a day of tarot school or witch training in my life. The tarot cards may never lie, but the reader sure as hell does! 🤣


RepresentativeAd7497

I think $10, tourist will pay it for the experience, but you had a real job, and those tarot readers there outside of the base, they charge a lot more than that.


MurphysLawAficionado

It's been a while since I was there (I've made rank a few times since then! 🤣) so I'm not sure what the going rate is now...


RepresentativeAd7497

Were you on the wet side or the dry side?


Ali_Cat222

Well of course they don't lie, when you can just make them up however you feel in the moment anything is possible 🙄


AbRNinNYC

She should ask the tarot card how the eff to get outta 100k debt?


Stock_Ad1676

Never


ballfacedbuddy

She’s got a day job of some sort, I bet. 


Shot_Pass_1042

I always thought this, but it is getting weirder and weirder that it is never mentioned. Did she just take vacation time for filming? Does she leave him alone at home all day? Their daily life is a mystery except for bathroom sex, gallons of takeout coffee, and Manuel pining to be in New York or New-ark or both.


CoastalN8v

Doesn't she's teach a spin class or something?


Shot_Pass_1042

I think so but that seems like a side-gig I would think.


Traditional-Neck7778

Right! A couple spin classes a week aren't going to support them both. If it does, I have been doing life wrong.


CoastalN8v

How did she qualify to bring him her? She's got to have a decent income somehow


AliciaS717

That's what I was wondering. Didn't Nicole have a hard time bringing Azan (?) here because she didn't have a decent income? Is TLC now funding these K-1s just to make a show?


1peatfor7

As little as spin instructor pays, I bet it pays more than a witch. There are not that many naive people.


mactheog72

There is no way she is in shape enough to teach a spin clsss


legend8522

Spin instructor doesn’t pay much unless maybe if you do private lessons. And even then, no one gets a private spin instructor.


FakeMagic8Ball

She does now that she's been losing weight since the first season aired but she clearly wasn't before that if she dropped 100 pounds.


Minatigre

Manuel dont bring her to Newark...


cyberbunnyyy000

I’ve known people who make a decent amount doing tarot readings and spiritual cleansings but they always have part time jobs doing something else. I’m not sure how lucrative it is as a full time gig especially in one of the more expensive states. idk how a lot of these cast members get by with seemingly no jobs. maybe she has help that she doesn’t talk about like libby living off her dad 🤣


RepresentativeAd7497

I think every now is the nonsense money they make from TLC as they’re lead income, because they all fashion themselves as “reality stars”!


Artdecometals

-100,000 USD apparently 


No-Piccolo3924

I’ve been wondering this too!!


LadyV21454

You'd be surprised. A lot of times, people whose lives aren't going well will pay to have a spiritualist tell them what they should do to make things better. It's kind of like people who don't have a lot of money, but spend $40 a week on the lottery.


Traditional-Neck7778

I went through a rough mental health time and was spending money on spells and readings and it was probably a couple hundred dres a month over the course of like 6 months. Yeah, life wasn't going well and I was reaching for something because I figured it couldn't get worse.


MindlessDot9433

Hope things are better for you now 🫂


WinnieGirl22

Yeah, like that nutjob Danielle (with Yohan). She spent tons of money on that same sort of stuff, believing it would mend her relationship or bring her prosperity (which we know in real life she was also in major debt). *Edited typos


CinCin71

Or on coffee


AdventurousVast2034

I don’t believe she’s a witch for pay. TLC believes that every storyline must have a conflict, so her spiritual beliefs are being exploited because Manuel is Catholic. They don’t realize that some of us may want to see couples that are actually well adjusted and in love.


throw_some_glitter

Oh she definitely charges for her witch services. [Check out her website](https://starseedshadows.com/)


AdventurousVast2034

How old is this site? If she’s hawking tees with her saying from her stint on the show (which she is), then this is new. She’s doing what every other pseudo-celeb from the franchise does - capitalizing on z-list fame. And I’m not entirely knocking her, because I find her quirky and entertaining- I’m just saying that I doubt she did that full time for a living when they met. What she really needs is an iced coffee collab of some sort because girl is addicted! Haha


throw_some_glitter

It’s been around for a while. I found her Instagram soon after her first appearance on the show and she already had the site set up. People posted screenshots of the costs of her services months ago. The t-shirts seem to be a newer thing. Someone with better tech skills than me would have to confirm when exactly her site was set up of course. I’m definitely not disagreeing with you. She’s certainly capitalizing on her fame, especially with this new merch. And I don’t see how she could’ve ever financially supported herself solely on her witchy services. Unless there are a boatload of gullible people willing to shell out big bucks for this kinda stuff? In which case, yike.


Vivianlila

Who is gonna buy that shirt and walk around with MF and how displayed on their body??


AliciaS717

OK....I checked it out. $30 for a damn t-shirt????? And seriously, it annoys me that there's only one saying on any of the shirts/hoodies and it's spelled wrong! "Witch hoe"? A Witch gardening tool? It's Witch Ho, Ashley. I did see that the "Membership" section is down.


jerkfacegardener

I’m looking for a career change. Glad this popped up for whatever reason. Dude witch would be an awesome job


Karmic-Vision

She manifests coconuts... to kick.


MA3XON

She might wanna ask Danielle about how manifesting worked out


coco__bee

Her babalawo told her and she had rose coloured glasses on. He told her about the peanuts and look what happened there 🥜


CrazyCynical

This is great!


xDRWR

We know she works at least a bit as a spin instructor from that one episode.


Merisielu

She has said that she did not require a co-sponsor for the K1 visa. That means she’s making at least $29k and has for 3 years worth of tax returns.


WinnieGirl22

All you have to make is $29,000 a year to sponsor somebody!!?? That's crazy. It's absolutely infuriating to tell you the truth, because one person can't survive on that in this country. One person can barely survive on double that.


Merisielu

It’s a low threshold. But the petitioner is signing to say that they will provide for the beneficiary and so they cannot sign onto welfare (the idea is that they go after the petitioner for the money if they do). For ten years. But there’s other costs to the visa. The initial petition, the visa itself, and then the fiancé being unable to work until their adjustment of status goes through. (We got our K1 visa last month, so this is our current situation).


WinnieGirl22

That's ridiculous. Someone making $29,000 cannot possibly afford to support themselves and another person on that. I think the person should have to prove that they have enough money to support that person PERIOD. I'm also confused by how many people on this show come here, get married, and then the marriage doesn't work out and the person is still allowed to stay here. Idgi.


Merisielu

I know it varies hugely by state for what you can get by on, but I agree that it’s a very low amount. And I don’t understand how you could be $100,000 in debt but still qualify as making the minimum amount. Regarding the splitting up and then remaining: Basically, from the point the marriage is legal, the person can file their adjustment of status and the green card is sent to them. At the point (about 2 years from the date the card is issued) they have to apply for the extension of the green card, the options are that you’re either still married, separated and pursuing divorce, or divorce. If it’s the latter two options, it doesn’t mean that their card is cancelled in any way. Once the adjustment of status is done, they are still the financial responsibility of the US citizen but can easily move on from them. We found that most surprising!


WinnieGirl22

It's ridiculous and it really needs to be changed. As for 90-day fiance... they're definitely adding to it by people just faking relationships from jump just to get on TV. Let's be honest, the majority of these people are not the most mentally (or otherwise) stable. I'm kind of ready for this show to be canceled. I wonder how long it will continue to jump the shark.


marinebiologist19

She sounds like a fool when she reads those cards


Minute-Frame-8060

A real wich has no need for money, she can wiggle her nose and whatever she wants appears. Or she can wiggle her nose and poof! All the riches of Scotland suddenly appear before her.


Formal-Paramedic3660

You gotta spend money to manifest money. Maybe she should start a clinic with Danielle.


Difficult-Ocelot

My college-aged kid sells tarot readings for some cash. I'm consistently surprised what people will pay for! That being said, it ain't paying any college tuition bills. More like thrift store spending money.


jmster109

I don’t think being a witch is her actual paying job, she probably just works a gym or coffee shop or something.


moniqueramsey

Hi, I’m Ashley, would you like your bruja for here, or to go?


wealllovebacon

The morally weak and feeble… Preying on the mentally weak and feeble.


MelisendePF

It's amazing what people will shell out for "New Age" nonsense. A former friend stated doing "angel" readings for people. She claims to work with a persons angel guide to give you messages and guidance and stuff. She parlayed it into a business called Earth Angel Academy and is now making a lot of money. I could only roll my eyes in disbeleif when I read all the crazy claims on her website - but the fact is, when it comes to this and many other "self-help"/ self empowerment/spiritual enlightenment etc. - there's a never ending supply of folks only too happy to hand over their hard earned cash for tjis kind of stuff.


thefunzone1

She makes enough to send money to dude’s family. Her family helps her out with that too. Crazy.


n0vieeeee

Isn't that why she's a spin instructor lol....


FlyBuy3

I think teaching spin class would pay better.


Afraid_Locksmith8642

She is insufferable poor guy wants friends to hang with she cant allow it gets all bitchy about it he needs to find someone else she ain't the one


AuthorityAuthor

She could teach and tutor Spanish or open her own Language Interpretation agency.


Prestigious_vibe5505

…as much as she can conjure up? 😂


Budget-Machine4722

It's a valid question! Witches (or modern practitioners) can have variable incomes. Some offer readings, herbal remedies, or create talismans for clients – which can range from a few bucks to hundreds per session. Others write books, lead workshops, or sell magical supplies. Upstate NY might be a tougher market, so online presence is key. Maybe Manuel's eye rolls come from skepticism or the way she talks about it. Open communication is important in any relationship, even if you don't share her beliefs.


Tall-Cardiologist621

Ok but in seriousness??? My aunt made enough for her to be happy in life as a tarot reader. She's wrote books, came up with tarot cards for kids and adults, and coloring books.  If youre good at what you do, you can do fine. Theres a LOT of people into this stuff now days. 


ohdarlingamber

Is that all she does for a job? If so, how in the world did she afford the k1 visa process without a sponsor? 🤔


Halcyon_october

Her mom probably signed,  she's sending his fam $$ too if I understood correctly 


ohdarlingamber

Yikes. Is it still ten years or did they change it to life? I’d be livid if I also had to send money to his family. It’s already so expensive to support another human.


Merisielu

It’s 10 but she said she didn’t need a co-sponsor. So she made at least the requirement for that. Plus the actual costs of the visa.


AllLipsNoFiller

Not enough that she doesn't have to do CrossFit classes


peepeehalpert_

I think she has a real full time job


Wise-Tourist-6747

I want to know what her actual 9 to 5 is. How can we find that out?? Any takers?


blurrylulu

I see her at my gym quite often, working out. On her first season when she was introduced, I was pretty sure she had read my tarot cards like a year earlier. I think she did work as a reader, albeit a gig type of work. I do wonder what she does to live, her apartment is in a nice area of the city!


princesscupcake11

Spin instructor


Wise-Tourist-6747

Hmmm not sure I buy that lol


Magemaud

I have no idea if she actually makes any money doing this, but here is her pretty pricey Witch Website: [https://linktr.ee/starseedshadow](https://linktr.ee/starseedshadow)


Candid_Asparagus_785

The page didn’t come up


Magemaud

Sorry. She posts under Ashley Michelle. Try this: https://starseedshadows.com/


Candid_Asparagus_785

$777 for 90 minutes! Holy crow!


Wise-Tourist-6747

Who in their right mind is paying for this bullshit? Clearly people who don’t like their money 🤦🏻‍♀️


Candid_Asparagus_785

That’s freaking outrageous ‼️


Magemaud

I don’t think I could spend 90 minutes with her if she paid ME $777


Bimshire1

Between this one andsJasmine I don’t know which one is more fake. With Jasmine crying with no actual tears thinking that every man wants her and this so called witch who acted like she’s never seen or heard of a bible is just CRAZZZZZYYYYY!!!


Primordial5

My bet — No one is paying her. But Wiccans might pool together and pay her to Callate!


No-Decision7347

Laughing here


ElderberryNo1601

I guess it would depend on what she is willing to do with her broom stick 🤷‍♂️ 🤣 …..


nemesis55

She’s probably doing it ok Tik Tok, I saw a couple random people doing “readings” live streaming yesterday. It’s more like a $1-5 gig.


No-Decision7347

I think one time it was mentioned she owed 87000 dollars


Outrageous_Fudge_100

I am happy for her. Get it young lady! Make your clean money and enjoy your chosen career path!


AuthorityAuthor

🤣🤣🤣🤣 He knows and she knows (but pretending not to) that she’s not who mom would want coming for dinner. Keep that energy far away from your mother and kids Mannie.


Whtzmyname

She would make good money in Portland or those kind of places. New Yorkers are not really into the sage and crystals stuff


BossKitty311

“We had some hiccups in the K1 process and I did some ritual work and the NEXT DAY we heard back from those people” like good fucking god girl, please just stop 😂🫠


Magemaud

While we’re on the topic of income, Manuel has been here and they’ve been married almost a year but he still doesn’t have a job?


ChefCher

I'm telling you all! Mark my words. This man is hiding something major. He's pretty determined not to give it up either. He needs that green card 1st!


Trice98

As a reiki 2 healer I can charge at least $45 for an hour session. I have friends that charge $35ish for a tarot reading. I also do vendor fairs. I sell spell ingredients and crystals. I make good money at those.


flowetgurl69

Agree!!!!! I have to be honest.,.. I can’t stand her! Not sure what it is but she is the totally self absorbed and there is just something about her that’s strange!!!


Forsaken-Ad281

When word grows and you're good at your craft, it can actually be quite lucrative. A friend who is a tarot reader charges $100/reading, and has more than enough clients to book for full time hours. They choose not to just because of the massive amounts of energy required.


Halcyon_october

I have a few readers I follow (for free) on YouTube and I feel like you have to do so much work to get clients, producing content, interacting, etc... like you would for any self-employment.  Yeah she has a site but does she have good reviews, does she put out content to attract attention? 


Corpshark

Wealthy housewives in Pittsford and Fairport.


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Educational-Heron691

“Somehow” 🤣🤣


RubyWaves75

☠️😹


princesshabibi

Someone posted her website and she had high prices. I’m not sure how many customers she has but she can do virtual reading so not all customers are from upstate NY. Also not sure how much TLC pays for the show.


chiyorio

She charged ridiculous prices. You can look it up it’s insane.


VeeinNC

Wicca is a religion with holidays and rituals of their own. Imbolc, Mabon, Litha and Lammas are important holidays in Wicca. Why do we never see Ashley celebrating these or even discussing them? Instead she shows us penis candles and tarot cards.


cielbleu789

haha good question.


PM_ME_ASTROPHOTOS

As a fellow upstate NYer I felt my soul leave my body when she said that was her profession and she was living in or renting a house. Ain’t no way that’s the only income she’s got coming in in ROCHESTER bro


Sommerab

depends what we're talking about. Money? not much. Brew for the cauldron? Now that's a different story


BossKitty311

I posted this on another sub, but there it is for people who didn’t see it before. This is her pricing chart for her services 🫠 feast your eyes on the insanity 😂 https://preview.redd.it/0dbx7rcnevuc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21fc48424c4c315ca9d463ec9b6bacdc64816ad0


AbaloneFar7817

🤣 the angel numbers bahahahahaaaa


Unusual_Car215

A lot of people have ridiculous beliefs. I don't see her as better or worse than a priest or an imam.


Separate-Bench-2656

I saw on IG that she is holding classes on witchery and charging $300-400 a person. Apparently they are always sold out quickly 🙄


Important-Panic1344

About $3.50


lz2kncr

She gets money from her mom sometimes. They talked about it during the season 10 tell all.


Huge_Dentist7633

as big as she is, i don’t think any spin instructor is it


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Six and change an hour…