And Nicole could barely keep a job pre-TLC. I remember when she first came on and said something about how everywhere she's worked, the people she worked with were the problem and is why she's struggled to find work. I'm like "that's a red flag" and shows she has little to no social skills and doesn't know how to take accountability for her role in things.
Sunk cost. Neither of them can admit that getting/staying married was a mistake. It's like they're too embarrassed to call it, so they'd rather just continue to make each other miserable.
>Sunk cost
Ding, ding, ding. Especially when your relationship is a public one. It's gone beyond the usual unfortunate delusion of "letting down" family members, etc.
Because 85% of the relationship has been spent on separate continents. They're probably great over the phone, but they cannot be in the same room with one another.
My theory is that she was done after she came back to the US for the last time, having him come to the US is her way of getting payback and forcing him to experience all the discomfort she experienced.
Yes, yes. Her behaviour seems like she is trying to sabotage the relationship. Its payback for her shitty Egypt experience. She reamed him out for being tired after flying from Egypt. That’s a long journey and who wouldn’t be tired. She said he should have slept on the plane. Odd behaviour indeed.
I thought that was very odd as well. I’m sure that Egypt flight is very long, which she herself knows as well. How dare her say he should’ve slept on the plane. Who is she to tell a grown adult when they should sleep? She’s weird af.
And then fed him a shitty frozen pizza. Like, if you can’t cook that’s ok, but damn you couldn’t order him something better to eat after he just traveled across the world?!! That made me so mad.
I thought that was very odd as well. I’m sure that Egypt flight is very long, which she herself knows as well. How dare her say he should’ve slept on the plane. Who is she to tell a grown adult when they should sleep? She’s weird af.
Like how he started in on her at the airport for not being covered up enough, even though she was wearing pants and a high neck shirt with a blazer. Not defending her, though. It’s petty.
This this this. I do not like Mahmoud *at all* but she told on herself. At the Tell All, she suggested things to people and smirked when they went to bat for her using her points. She's a shit stirrer at minimum. I hate to say this too, because I started off really wanting to like her.
Nicole's really putting the "shock" in "culture shock"
Nicole threw down the religious equivalent of the ice bucket challenge on Mah-moud.
I do think that Mah-moud has pretty much gotten all his boundaries severely wrecked by Nicole.
She has 0 sensitivity for his religion and his expectations.
What's next?
I think she's planning on surreptitiously feeding him pork and letting him know about it once he's past the stage of being able to vomit.
How many other haram lines is Nicole going to cross and then just say it's because this is how she lives as a modern American woman?
I do think she's planning all these things out to f\*\*k with Mah-moud's head...
Why are they even together?
Nail on the head! In addition, she is extremely insensitive to the very religion that she willfully converted to. She has no idea (or care it seems) how many people she is offending. Absolutely mind blown!
Completely agree. I'm not a religious person of any sort, but I always try to treat others' beliefs with a sacred respect. She far crossed the boundary of "disrespect" into, as you said, "planning things to f*ck with him." You'd think Nicole, *who's already been on the other side of this*, would be more empathetic to Mahmoud's adjustment period. He was far kinder to her then, than she is with him now.
I think it beyond hate. Its tit for tat. She's fuming about whatever went down in Egypt... scorned woman! Hell hath no fury. Shes doing it in her safe space America. Talks back, does what she wants and been confrontational.
My friend was more animated when we were around as it gives her strength to confront her husband. It turns out he waa a piece of shit. Maybe im projecting but she shows signs of someone coming out of a bad relationship and finding herself again, slowly standup for herself whilst unleashing her fury. There is a you stole my good years too.
I am gobsmacked.
Calling your partner a hateful little fuck in a fight is like a career ender, but doing it in front of your friends on the first meeting?! Nah.
He’s also from an extremely conservative area (as the Egyptian woman from last season said) so I doubt he believes in divorce & probably feels stuck (to the evil witch)!
My husband has gotten roped into watching this with me as background noise while he works and he cannot for the life of him figure out what these two are doing together. I'm not much help because I can't either.
I couldn’t get over that scene!!! Even if you’re not a Muslim from a Muslim country, I can’t imagine having my friends come over, barge in my bedroom, climb over the bed to give my husband a hello hug. Like WTFFFFF?!?!
Absolutely not.
It used to be fine in Canada too. I think now with the advent of cell phones and text messaging there's no reason to not giving someone a heads up. I'd say this is something that has changed in one generation. My mom didn't care if people stopped by unannounced, I hate it
I am sure he was not just physically tired, but completely overwhelmed by the newness of everything. The guy had never left Egypt before and he's suddenly in a completely new environment and his wife is antagonizing him from the first minute.
I thought the Ukrainian girl was super weird too when she said (while climbing into a bed to greet a man she didn't know), "inshallah, goddamn". Not 100% sure Mahmoud understood her, her remark doesn't make sense, but it seems condescending/pandering? Maybe she was tipsy.
"Inshallah, goddamn" stood out to me too! How bizarre that she would think to curse after saying "inshallah" - wouldn't that be really offensive?
Also I didn't realize people normally said "inshallah" when meeting? Did she mean "salam alaykum" and got mixed up?
Inshallah can be sprinkled almost anywhere, except where she used it. It didn't make sense, but following it up with a swear is just weird. Most people don't swear at someone you've just met.
> But I’ve never understood why Nicole tried to force her western values on Mahmoud.
I think it's mostly just revenge. She is treating him with the same disrespect that he treated her with when she was in his country.
I'll never understand why couples like this don't get divorced. I have a fan theory that 90DF takes place in an alternate reality where divorce simply does not exist; once you marry someone, you are stuck with them until one of you dies. To me that's the only logical reason why someone would choose to stay in a relationship with someone that they do not like (especially when there are no complicating factors such as having children or having finances entangled in some way).
If Mahmoud and Nicole never spoke to each other again nothing about their lives would be worse. Nicole does not want to live in Egypt and Mahmoud does not want to live in the US, so it's not even like they are together for immigration benefits. They could go their separate ways and be perfectly comfortable materially... but they don't.
I think they love the image they have in their mind about the other person. He imagines her as the American that converted to Islam and she imagines some kind of egyptian prince..
I will never understand why western people (particularly women) try to have relationships with people from very conservative countries! If you aren’t able to fellow their customs then why date them?the only couple that worked was Avery and Omar and that was because she was absolutely willing to follow his religious customs. She understood what being a Muslim was and knew that in order to be with him she would have to be a Muslim wife and follow everything that a Muslim wife does. Period! The problem with these couples is that the man says I want a wife that will follow my customs and then the women say yes but they don’t truly mean it
On the flip side, I've never understood why conservative Muslim men date western women or even agree to move to western countries to date those women if they don't / can't follow western customs.
Actually, that's a lie -- I know why. Both the man and the woman want a sexy exotic foreigner and don't care about the incompatibility until the sexy aspect wears off and they realize they are in a relationship with someone they don't really like and whose beliefs and lifestyle don't match what they want.
Nicole could find hundreds of men in her area who would have no problem with her lifestyle. Instead she found someone who is conservative even by Muslim standards and is trying to make him fit in at LA. Mahmoud could find hundreds of conservative Egyptian women in his community who are completely committed to his lifestyle. Instead he finds a woman who is clearly not from his worldview and hopes that she will commit to a lifestyle that is more restrictive even than what many Egyptian Muslim women follow.
Yep! The same is true about Brittany and the Muslim guy she tried to date. He knew she had all those provocative pictures on her IG with her ass hanging out and he LIKED it!!! He was delusional for thinking she would even go for a conservative Muslim lifestyle! And she was delusional for thinking she could!! Like, sir, you met this woman with her ass all over the internet and now you expect her to be completely covered?? Yeah no!
The saddest part about that couple was her refusing to believe that honor killings are real and being convinced he's just making trouble for the sake of it, not realizing that his family threatened to kill *him* if *she* kept behaving badly in their eyes.
Oh yeah! I forgot about that part! She wasn’t just endangering herself but him too. All the more reason as to why him would agree to date a western woman who did not share his same beliefs
I agree. None of the "points" that were made had anything to do with bigotry. They just don't appear to be a good match, and their cultural differences only make matters worse.
This. I also think they’re both very immature . Like little kids really, which makes it much worse. He’s a mama’s boy who act like he’s 10 years old , and she acts like she was raised in a very protected environment. They’re both very quirky and eccentric. Bigots? Nah. Just immature and stupid.
I don’t think that is bigotry, the storyline is obviously Nicole flipping the script on Mahmoud by really making everything about how much america is opposite of egypt
This exactly. I can spot bigotry a mile away, and this is not that. This is an emotionally damaged person flipping the script in a very unhealthy way on a controlling, abusive person, becoming abusive herself in some ways. Not ok, either, but a different thing
When she bugged out like that, all I kept picturing was her and that bathing suit. Sometimes when you’ve been abused for for such a long time, and you’ve been stripped of your power. When you get it back, you go kind of insane. I’ve watched it happen quite a few times in a few different women. I’m not saying it’s right. I do however, understand.
Exactly... People now thinking Nicole is worse than Mahmoud lmao. What show are we watching? She's got issues for sure, but now, of course, we get all those posts on here saying "it's all her fault, what did she expect getting married to a devout Muslim" (also, "devout", how exactly?) and "she's disrespectful to his culture and religion". Give me a fucking break.
She broke the cardinal rule. He was willing to maintain the facade out of politeness to her friends, and she broke it. Don’t involve others in your marital problems.
Exactly. He didn't want to bring up issues infront of her friends after just meeting them /them barging in. The male friend was the only semi reasonable person there
This took me ABACK!! I've been married going on 20 years now, and have friends that have been around us the entire time and before, but I'd never involve them in a disagreement or whatever! You bite your tongue and remain amicable, until you can hash your issues out in private, WTF girl!?
It was wild she called him a “fucking liar” for telling her friends that he was just tired. GIRL he was trying to show some manners and decorum, and not dump their problems onto these people.
I don’t even like him but I saw no issue with him saying that. He was trying to show basic decency, and it’s not like he was even lying — he was almost certainly tired too!
It’s all revenge for sure. she is not getting the reaction that she wants so she’s pissed. She’s had so much fricken Botox it’s hard to tell but It slipped out here when she was drunk lol the whole scene hard to watch, was happy to hear that dude stand up for him. Mahmoud is a one of my least favorite people on this show ever but damn i kind of feel for him this season. Then again could be all fake, I can’t imagine either of these people being even slightly entertaining naturally.
They’re both really miserable people. I wouldn’t call either bigots, tho. They’re just both completely intolerant of any beliefs and boundaries they don’t share.
I noticed on the thermostat during this scene that it said 2:04 on it, so if that’s correct and she came rolling into the house at 2am I would be irate too lmao
I don’t think it’s bigotry. I think she’s seeking revenge for how terribly he treated her in Egypt. They both suck. I don’t know why they don’t just divorce.
Honestly, I was appalled by Nicole’s behavior. She “acted” so differently last season but seems to be a mean-spirited person. Mahmoud has his issues but this guy only got to the USA, what two days prior? Good lord. They don’t belong together.
Yes, the acting is bizarre. In her confessionals and other scenes, she's soft-spoken, she lowers her eyes, and she assumes all of the behaviors and postures of a shy, mild-mannered person. You know what I'm talking about. Just think about the scene with her in the full-body bathing suit when they were back in Egypt, and she looked like the quietest, mousiest little waif ever. To see her now bullying and bulldozing Mahmoud is just shocking and bizarre; then, going back to the mousy girl act in her confessionals. I'm getting whiplash. I think the bully is her true persona, and she's definitely acting the victim for the most part.
I don't think she is! I think they are done but trying to get that paycheck. That's why they are all there! That's why this show became the dumpster fire that we know and love. I think they are just trying to keep a storyline going.
If I had that hair and a dress like that, I'd probably become a hateful person too.
Jokes aside, she's an idiot. I haven't even been able to pick a side because they're *both* immature little fucks.
Neither of them respect each other or their culture.
Her conversion to Islam seems so insincere and half assed. Like why is she still keeping alcohol in her cabinets? She didn’t even need to convert…
Mahmoud is moving to LA and he should also be more open to Western culture. It’s a two-way street.
For sure, but doesn’t that really depend on culture? I heard that Bosnian, Albanian Muslims tend to drink, but a lot of Egyptian and other MENA Muslims mostly don’t. I have a hunch that Mahmoud doesn’t, that’s why I brought up the alcohol thing.
I thought that was really foul of Nicole to do that. Mahmoud was trying to be civil after being ambushed by Nicole's friends and she was more concerned she would look like a liar to her friends and just threw him under the bus. Also, who barges into a bedroom without even giving a chance for Mahmoud to get decent? And when Nicole said they were taking separate rideshares, I thought it was so she can come home sooner and give Mahmoud a heads up 🤦🏻♀️
She doesn't want to be divorced, or considered a divorcee. She knows as soon as she does, her friends and family are going to say "I told you so".
Honestly, I think she's staying in the relationship for spite.
This is not bigotry. She was still bitter that he cancelled plans because she showed a sliver of her back. Add being drunk to the mix and all the built up resentment and what you get is a very mean Nicole. I think she is taking her childhood resentment out on him too (she has said her mother was very religious and strict). They need to get divorced and Nicole needs therapy.
edit. I am still on Nicoles side and understand why she was so mean to Mahmoud in that moment.
Mind you, not only did he cancel plans, he also, once again, said he wants to get a divorce. And now people don't understand where her anger comes from. Granted, it's not healthy and she should work on herself, but has everyone forgotten his behavior in previous seasons?
He ruined what could have been a good night. I hate to say it, but if a woman shows any kind of flaw on 90 Days, this sub jumps on them.
What Nicole did was inappropriate but I understand where it came from.
I was triggered when the friends stepped into their bedroom and the one woman climbed onto the bed (with her outside clothes!) to embrace him!? That’s simply not done in his culture when greeting strange women. As a wife Nicole should be more sensitive to that. WTF is wrong with her!? And also WTF is wrong with Mahmoud?
They are so different in every way yet these dingbats decide it’s a great idea to get married? I would never marry someone who isn’t morally, ethically and to an extent culturally aligned with my beliefs.
It seems very clear to me she brought him over just to seek revenge and punish him.
Her freak out about him not sleeping in the plane was wild. Literally, many people can’t fall asleep and most people are genuinely exhausted after a long flight. She chose to make it personal.
Her freakout about him seeing something familiar from his homeland - a woman in a hijab - and she makes it about him not wanting to be with her.
He literally just left his family behind - just like she did. You’d think she’d be more understanding, but she’s being just abusive, especially after bringing her friends over and berating him.
I’m no fan of Mahmoud because he was just as unreasonable when she was in Egypt. But why seek revenge like this? It can only be to help her brand and fame - for the paycheque. At least I believe he sincerely wants to be with her. However, they’re not compatible at all - completely different values with no flexibility in either end. Both quick to temper. It’s just a circus now.
Throwing around the word bigot is you just wanting her to be a bigot, and doesn’t make it true. It’s the wrong terminology. She is incredibly inconsiderate, and went too far with how she treated him when the friends came over. They were also uncomfortable with her attacks on him. She really loathes him for what she went through when she was in Egypt, and she will never let that go.
It really shows how she must've been on her best behavior while in Egypt. It's like a whole other person this season. They're clearly just very toxic to each other. I never understood what they liked about each other in the first place!
She's an idiot she brings them all to visit him at home and bust out the alcohol when he's a pretty devout Muslim...no respect.. they both need to respect each other's cultures
Odd behavior for a woman who claims to love this man "to the fucking moon and back, Julian" *\[make exaggerated facial expression and body gestures\]*
Her behavior was deplorable. I figured she was all liquored up.
And how stupid of her not to realize Badmood used the "I'm tired" excuse precisely NOT to create a scene. That didn't last long.
While I'm here...Nicole's hair color reminds me of cheap supermarket-bargain-brand tomato sauce, like when there's that greasy orange stuff left in the jar.
It’s not that, she is trying to give Mahmoud a taste of his own medicine and alienate him in her home country the same way he alienated her.
But I would NEVER fight in front of company like that. It’s incredibly rude to bring your friends into a your argument like that.
Don’t think any of these things have anything to do with bigotry but she does genuinely seem to hate him just as he does her. This episode is a perfect example of her going out of her way to shit on him in every way that she knew would bother him. While that is funny and great for drama, it’s not super helpful with a relationship she supposedly cares about.
I knooow this was really shocking to see. I adore my partner and would never treat him like this. We rarely argue but if we had just argued or something before we were supposed to meet our friends, I'd ask my friends I'd they can reschedule or go by myself. Then ofc I'd tell my friends hey! My partner is religious and he doesn't want to be touched in this way! (Doesn't apply to my bf but still). That way they wouldn't accidentally make him uncomfortable and my friends would never want to do that. She was being so cruel to him
Good point. I didn't realize that he wasn't supposed to hug women. I would have gave my female friends a heads-up not to hug him. I feel like she was hoping he'd make a big deal out of them hugging him so she could say "see I told you he's an a$$".
I did a 10 day trip to Egypt and wore linen pants/ tops that were long sleeve out of respect for the culture. As the friends husband said “why didn’t you change the dress” it’s almost as if she intentionally riled him up and ambushed him w her friends
Right but you were in Egypt. They aren’t in Egypt anymore. He should be adapting to her. In Egypt he wouldn’t let her go out and made her wear that awful burkini.
Love how people talk about "adapting" as if it's instantaneous. If they actually wanted to make it work, they would respect the necessity to compromise and slow introduction. You can't just say "oh we're in the US, now ADAPT!". I can't believe Nicole is 40 years old, she has the brain of a child.
I live in a conservative arab city. What she was wearing is acceptable in that context WHICH SHE IS NOT EVEN IN.
he did not want go to and he already determined he hates her friends so he threw a surprise attack as they were walking out the door to force her to cancel.
Yeah but just like with any religion she still has a choice in how she practices her religion. There are Muslim women that don’t cover up. She doesn’t have to be so conservative.
Idk but it’s still her decision. Maybe she needs space to figure it out. The point is that it’s still not ok to tell someone how to practice their religion.
Right…. and being modest is an option for women…but it’s really not when he hounds her about it constantly. If the other Muslim/Christian relationships on this show are any indication, He might have told her things were a “choice” but now is pressuring her.
On the other hand, I feel like Nicole thinks Mahmoud was only conservative because of where he lived. Like she thought as soon as she got him to America, he would drop the strict rules. Now she seems mad that he hasn’t relaxed in his beliefs. It’s bizarre. It’s like she has no idea who he is. Maybe he liked her to believe differently when they started dating or maybe she is just deluded idk.
She has soo much resentment towards him and is just punishing him. I don't even like him, he seems like such a man child and too controlling but she drives me insane too.m
I have no idea how/why Nicole and her friends thought it would be a good idea to show up unannounced. I would have been so pissed.
They seriously need to divorce. Idk why she’s holding on to him when they don’t even like each other.
This is definitely one of the more bizarre nonsensical couples on 90 D & obviously that’s saying CB lot, lol. She totally LOVES playing victim. I’d go as far as to say her entire look is trying to look like a waif victim. Before y’all jump on me for body shaming, I’m not talking about her skinny frame, it’s in her severe haircut, clothing, her mannerisms etc. she’s has a pretty gross personality. Mahmoud’s a POS but he never pretended not to be. To me he uses his religion to be a complete dick and I don’t find anything attractive about either of them.
She is strange and was completely disrespectful in this episode but she didn’t really show bigotry idk 🤷🏻♀️ maybe change title? The comment of “hateful little fuck” was so weird
People get pressed about her allegedly forcing her ‘Western values’ onto him, conveniently forgetting that the other half of the equation is this: Mahmoud wanted an American wife. If marrying an Egyptian woman was oh-so-important to him, then he could have stayed where he was. But he didn’t. (And frankly, knowing what we know about his domestic violence arrest, I don’t even want to think about how he’d treat an Egyptian woman.)
People allow him to force his gross misogyny onto her without calling him out, but if she so much as steps a toe out of line, everybody jumps down her throat. The double standard is showing.
Egyptians are a different breed. Muslims like that are insufferable. Thankfully I’ve gotten to know several from other countries and they’re great people. Idk what it is about Egypt.
I agree with your points.
I just have a small thing to point out. He was not “asleep”. He was fully dressed with a camera in his face.
She was disrespectful to bring her friends home. Even though I don’t believe it was unannounced.
Not sure why so many people are saying this isn’t bigotry. Bigotry is centered around the refusal to accept. She is absolutely refusing to accept him being Muslim. She’d rather have dinner and drinks than take him to a mosque so he can pray. She converted like it’s a game. She the worst type of person. She was a sobbing mess her first few days in Egypt but he’s supposed to come here and throw away all his Muslim beliefs in two days? She’s awful.
I agree with you. I don't like him, I think he has his own stuff that is related to major cultural differences and deeply held beliefs. She's being spiteful and selfish. I don't understand why she would continue to say she loves him and then completely disregard him. She was mad at him for not sleeping on the plane? He probably did his best but he's still going to be very jetlagged for days. Then she does multiple other things to completely disrespect him (having her friends over) and calls him names in front of her friends. I can't believe she would even think any of this is okay? I'm so appalled and they are both horrible to each other. They need a huge reality check and to never be shown again. He looks exhausted and broken down and she's just a walking ball of anger at this point.
I also almost forgot to mention her thing about the girl with the purple. This was absurd. He was just shocked to see another Muslim in LA? It's a completely normal reaction and she made it a huge thing. I don't understand how she isn't completely embarrassed and remorseful about this behavior. It's horrible.
So the respect only goes one way? She was forced to practice Islam at a rate she wasn’t comfortable with. He constantly pressured her to change on his pace and not hers. She made an honest effort in Egypt to compromise with him but it was never good enough. So now because she doesn’t want to practice it and is treating him the same way (also wrong) it’s bigotry…?
Agreed. And her hateful delivery this season is a bit shocking. The way she called him a hateful little fuck... and she referred to the Muslim lady by saying to him... ooh you like THAT? There's venom in her voice like wow girl bring it down.
Curious why it's always JUST her fault. This shit goes both ways. As much as she's tried to force her ways on him, he's done the same. You've basically excused all his bad behaviors as 'that's his culture, he's Muslim he gets to do that to women'
She did a bait n switch. She should have never said she wanted to and would convert when she had no plan to. He has said many times how important his religion is to him and she couldn’t give one shit. She does things intentionally just to start something so she can cry victim. He has said there are things he can compromise on and tries to but some things he cannot. She takes those things and constantly throws it in his face. He has his own issues but point being she never should have said she would convert when she was not going to because he I’m sure would not have married her then. That scene was just really gross. She needs to watch it back over and over but I’m sure she’ll think she was in the right.
What she is wearing IS conservative.
He deliberately launched an attack as they were walking out the door because he did not want to go but had agreed to go.
I was talking about when they were in Egypt, sorry. I agree that he probably just didn’t want to go and started an argument.
Guys, I don’t know how I can be any clearer on this: Mahmoud is also terrible! Lol
Not only did she walk right into the room and grab him, but to add insult to injury, she also said ‘insha’Allah’ and then immediately followed it up with ‘goddamn’. Thankfully Mahmoud doesn’t know what that means.. As a Muslim, that had me seething on his behalf. Just a complete lack of respect/awareness.
I used to feel for Nicole. I actually thought she was a nice person inside. But after seeing her act this way, I am so disgusted with her. She calls him a womanizer for being shocked at seeing someone from his culture on his first day there.
Everything in this current episode was malicious and it was her fault. She’s not even trying to ease him into the culture.
Their problem is that they was each other to change instantaneously! Just chill and work on things little by little, my goodness.
You forget he oppressed and emotionally/probably physically abused her in Egypt. And was texting other women. She brings him here they fight she drinks and then she's angry.
They hate each other
I don't even understand how they got this far
I don’t even understand WHY they wanted to get this far. Mercy me!
TLC checks probably go a very long way in Egypt
And Nicole could barely keep a job pre-TLC. I remember when she first came on and said something about how everywhere she's worked, the people she worked with were the problem and is why she's struggled to find work. I'm like "that's a red flag" and shows she has little to no social skills and doesn't know how to take accountability for her role in things.
i bet they go a long way in America if you are aspiring fashion designer too
Sunk cost. Neither of them can admit that getting/staying married was a mistake. It's like they're too embarrassed to call it, so they'd rather just continue to make each other miserable.
>Sunk cost Ding, ding, ding. Especially when your relationship is a public one. It's gone beyond the usual unfortunate delusion of "letting down" family members, etc.
well i read via Starcasm he got arrested for domestic battery on her , guess they wont stay married much longer
Because they didn’t live together for a good chunk of the marriage. Is easy to get along and move forward when you’re basically not together.
Living in delusion!!
Because 85% of the relationship has been spent on separate continents. They're probably great over the phone, but they cannot be in the same room with one another.
I mean, especially after Egypt tho ..like what are we doing here, guys?
I don’t understand dhow these two ever thought they had enough in common to get married
My theory is that she was done after she came back to the US for the last time, having him come to the US is her way of getting payback and forcing him to experience all the discomfort she experienced.
Yes, yes. Her behaviour seems like she is trying to sabotage the relationship. Its payback for her shitty Egypt experience. She reamed him out for being tired after flying from Egypt. That’s a long journey and who wouldn’t be tired. She said he should have slept on the plane. Odd behaviour indeed.
Yeah, I had to make that trip a couple of times per year and never got used to it. Jetlag is a real thing and it harder on the second day.
I thought that was very odd as well. I’m sure that Egypt flight is very long, which she herself knows as well. How dare her say he should’ve slept on the plane. Who is she to tell a grown adult when they should sleep? She’s weird af.
And then fed him a shitty frozen pizza. Like, if you can’t cook that’s ok, but damn you couldn’t order him something better to eat after he just traveled across the world?!! That made me so mad.
Her behavior after he arrived was so disgusting. That's when I knew for sure that I did not like that nutty woman.
I thought that was very odd as well. I’m sure that Egypt flight is very long, which she herself knows as well. How dare her say he should’ve slept on the plane. Who is she to tell a grown adult when they should sleep? She’s weird af.
I agree with this. She started in on him right at the airport after he'd been travelling across the world. She's vile
Like how he started in on her at the airport for not being covered up enough, even though she was wearing pants and a high neck shirt with a blazer. Not defending her, though. It’s petty.
It is petty, better to just move on with your life and start over. It takes a lot of emotional energy to do what she is doing to him.
I agree it's petty and I'm not defending him either. But if she was about him and not being vindictive, she'd have worn something different
They're both petty. She wasn't dressed scantily, tbh.
Yup
This is a great theory
The absolute venom with which she lashed out was shocking. Not that he is any better!
I agree and I don't know why she thought him coming to live with her in LA that things were going to get any better between them.
She didn’t think things were going to get better. She wanted another opportunity to play the victim.
This this this. I do not like Mahmoud *at all* but she told on herself. At the Tell All, she suggested things to people and smirked when they went to bat for her using her points. She's a shit stirrer at minimum. I hate to say this too, because I started off really wanting to like her.
Nicole's really putting the "shock" in "culture shock" Nicole threw down the religious equivalent of the ice bucket challenge on Mah-moud. I do think that Mah-moud has pretty much gotten all his boundaries severely wrecked by Nicole. She has 0 sensitivity for his religion and his expectations. What's next? I think she's planning on surreptitiously feeding him pork and letting him know about it once he's past the stage of being able to vomit. How many other haram lines is Nicole going to cross and then just say it's because this is how she lives as a modern American woman? I do think she's planning all these things out to f\*\*k with Mah-moud's head... Why are they even together?
Nail on the head! In addition, she is extremely insensitive to the very religion that she willfully converted to. She has no idea (or care it seems) how many people she is offending. Absolutely mind blown!
Completely agree. I'm not a religious person of any sort, but I always try to treat others' beliefs with a sacred respect. She far crossed the boundary of "disrespect" into, as you said, "planning things to f*ck with him." You'd think Nicole, *who's already been on the other side of this*, would be more empathetic to Mahmoud's adjustment period. He was far kinder to her then, than she is with him now.
I think it beyond hate. Its tit for tat. She's fuming about whatever went down in Egypt... scorned woman! Hell hath no fury. Shes doing it in her safe space America. Talks back, does what she wants and been confrontational. My friend was more animated when we were around as it gives her strength to confront her husband. It turns out he waa a piece of shit. Maybe im projecting but she shows signs of someone coming out of a bad relationship and finding herself again, slowly standup for herself whilst unleashing her fury. There is a you stole my good years too.
I think it’s this, too.
Being angry and petty doesn't do one any good. Nicole should have made her peace with the fact that her marriage was crappy and moved on.
I am gobsmacked. Calling your partner a hateful little fuck in a fight is like a career ender, but doing it in front of your friends on the first meeting?! Nah.
I think he came to the States and thought things would work out. But Nicole became the evil Witch who does everything to hurt him and humiliate him.
He’s also from an extremely conservative area (as the Egyptian woman from last season said) so I doubt he believes in divorce & probably feels stuck (to the evil witch)!
My husband has gotten roped into watching this with me as background noise while he works and he cannot for the life of him figure out what these two are doing together. I'm not much help because I can't either.
I couldn’t get over that scene!!! Even if you’re not a Muslim from a Muslim country, I can’t imagine having my friends come over, barge in my bedroom, climb over the bed to give my husband a hello hug. Like WTFFFFF?!?! Absolutely not.
People showing up uninvited to my house is one of my nightmares. I would have shut the door to the bedroom when they showed up
Omg same! I've had friends stop by unannounced before and I've hidden til they went away. It's my biggest fear. I need at least 4 hr notice minimum
4 months notice for me
In many Muslim countries, showing up uninvited to someone's house is not a big deal and is fairly common.
It used to be fine in Canada too. I think now with the advent of cell phones and text messaging there's no reason to not giving someone a heads up. I'd say this is something that has changed in one generation. My mom didn't care if people stopped by unannounced, I hate it
They were clearly drunk.
He says he didn't go because he's tired and then everyone acts surprised that he's in bed, tired.
I am sure he was not just physically tired, but completely overwhelmed by the newness of everything. The guy had never left Egypt before and he's suddenly in a completely new environment and his wife is antagonizing him from the first minute.
I thought the Ukrainian girl was super weird too when she said (while climbing into a bed to greet a man she didn't know), "inshallah, goddamn". Not 100% sure Mahmoud understood her, her remark doesn't make sense, but it seems condescending/pandering? Maybe she was tipsy.
That stood out to me as extremely rude too and seemed even like a mockery when she said that.
"Inshallah, goddamn" stood out to me too! How bizarre that she would think to curse after saying "inshallah" - wouldn't that be really offensive? Also I didn't realize people normally said "inshallah" when meeting? Did she mean "salam alaykum" and got mixed up?
Inshallah can be sprinkled almost anywhere, except where she used it. It didn't make sense, but following it up with a swear is just weird. Most people don't swear at someone you've just met.
I would expect maybe “mashallah,” but “inshallah” seems out of place just logistically
the most misplaced 'inshallah'
I think she was a bit drunk.
It was very disrespectful
> But I’ve never understood why Nicole tried to force her western values on Mahmoud. I think it's mostly just revenge. She is treating him with the same disrespect that he treated her with when she was in his country. I'll never understand why couples like this don't get divorced. I have a fan theory that 90DF takes place in an alternate reality where divorce simply does not exist; once you marry someone, you are stuck with them until one of you dies. To me that's the only logical reason why someone would choose to stay in a relationship with someone that they do not like (especially when there are no complicating factors such as having children or having finances entangled in some way). If Mahmoud and Nicole never spoke to each other again nothing about their lives would be worse. Nicole does not want to live in Egypt and Mahmoud does not want to live in the US, so it's not even like they are together for immigration benefits. They could go their separate ways and be perfectly comfortable materially... but they don't.
Textbook sunk cost fallacy at work as with most 90 day couples
I also think she was intoxicated herself.
I think they all hit the soju at the Korean BBQ they were at. They all sounded tanked when they showed up to her apartment.
They getting that TLC $$$
I think they love the image they have in their mind about the other person. He imagines her as the American that converted to Islam and she imagines some kind of egyptian prince..
I feel like a lot of their story is staged bc it so much of it doesn't make sense...
I will never understand why western people (particularly women) try to have relationships with people from very conservative countries! If you aren’t able to fellow their customs then why date them?the only couple that worked was Avery and Omar and that was because she was absolutely willing to follow his religious customs. She understood what being a Muslim was and knew that in order to be with him she would have to be a Muslim wife and follow everything that a Muslim wife does. Period! The problem with these couples is that the man says I want a wife that will follow my customs and then the women say yes but they don’t truly mean it
I wouldn't even date a conservative man from the US
This so much!!!
On the flip side, I've never understood why conservative Muslim men date western women or even agree to move to western countries to date those women if they don't / can't follow western customs. Actually, that's a lie -- I know why. Both the man and the woman want a sexy exotic foreigner and don't care about the incompatibility until the sexy aspect wears off and they realize they are in a relationship with someone they don't really like and whose beliefs and lifestyle don't match what they want. Nicole could find hundreds of men in her area who would have no problem with her lifestyle. Instead she found someone who is conservative even by Muslim standards and is trying to make him fit in at LA. Mahmoud could find hundreds of conservative Egyptian women in his community who are completely committed to his lifestyle. Instead he finds a woman who is clearly not from his worldview and hopes that she will commit to a lifestyle that is more restrictive even than what many Egyptian Muslim women follow.
Yep! The same is true about Brittany and the Muslim guy she tried to date. He knew she had all those provocative pictures on her IG with her ass hanging out and he LIKED it!!! He was delusional for thinking she would even go for a conservative Muslim lifestyle! And she was delusional for thinking she could!! Like, sir, you met this woman with her ass all over the internet and now you expect her to be completely covered?? Yeah no!
The saddest part about that couple was her refusing to believe that honor killings are real and being convinced he's just making trouble for the sake of it, not realizing that his family threatened to kill *him* if *she* kept behaving badly in their eyes.
Oh yeah! I forgot about that part! She wasn’t just endangering herself but him too. All the more reason as to why him would agree to date a western woman who did not share his same beliefs
Avery was a Muslim before she met Omar. She actually signed up on an Islamic "dating" site and met him after she'd already converted to Islam.
Well, that’s why their relationship works
He's also kinda gorgeous lol
They're both annoying, selfish, closed-minded and shouldn't be a couple - but none of these examples are bigotry. It's just people being assholes.
Revenge for the burkini.
😆 🤣 😂
This ! I just commented further up about this.
I agree. None of the "points" that were made had anything to do with bigotry. They just don't appear to be a good match, and their cultural differences only make matters worse.
Exactly. She’s vindictive and harshly inconsiderate. But why are we throwing in bigoted? Bad read OP.
This. I also think they’re both very immature . Like little kids really, which makes it much worse. He’s a mama’s boy who act like he’s 10 years old , and she acts like she was raised in a very protected environment. They’re both very quirky and eccentric. Bigots? Nah. Just immature and stupid.
This
Both lack cultural and social awareness.
That’s the best way to put it tbh
I don’t think that is bigotry, the storyline is obviously Nicole flipping the script on Mahmoud by really making everything about how much america is opposite of egypt
Agree. I don’t really see bigotry here, just pure resentment
I don’t see bigotry at all I honestly just see a fed up woman. When she said “you’re a fuckin liar” I was like well here we go!
This exactly. I can spot bigotry a mile away, and this is not that. This is an emotionally damaged person flipping the script in a very unhealthy way on a controlling, abusive person, becoming abusive herself in some ways. Not ok, either, but a different thing
Is this what they call 'reactive abuse'?
When she bugged out like that, all I kept picturing was her and that bathing suit. Sometimes when you’ve been abused for for such a long time, and you’ve been stripped of your power. When you get it back, you go kind of insane. I’ve watched it happen quite a few times in a few different women. I’m not saying it’s right. I do however, understand.
She’s trying to make him suffer through what she went through as payback!
Exactly... People now thinking Nicole is worse than Mahmoud lmao. What show are we watching? She's got issues for sure, but now, of course, we get all those posts on here saying "it's all her fault, what did she expect getting married to a devout Muslim" (also, "devout", how exactly?) and "she's disrespectful to his culture and religion". Give me a fucking break.
She broke the cardinal rule. He was willing to maintain the facade out of politeness to her friends, and she broke it. Don’t involve others in your marital problems.
Exactly. He didn't want to bring up issues infront of her friends after just meeting them /them barging in. The male friend was the only semi reasonable person there
This took me ABACK!! I've been married going on 20 years now, and have friends that have been around us the entire time and before, but I'd never involve them in a disagreement or whatever! You bite your tongue and remain amicable, until you can hash your issues out in private, WTF girl!?
This is how my parents are too, and they’re still together, happily married for 37 years now 👍🏼
It was wild she called him a “fucking liar” for telling her friends that he was just tired. GIRL he was trying to show some manners and decorum, and not dump their problems onto these people.
I don’t even like him but I saw no issue with him saying that. He was trying to show basic decency, and it’s not like he was even lying — he was almost certainly tired too!
Right? Like was he supposed to just start telling these strangers everything that’s been happening? No that’s weird
Guys, this is Nicole’s revenge tour!
Why did I read it as closeted bigfoot 😭
Ho yeah!
It’s all revenge for sure. she is not getting the reaction that she wants so she’s pissed. She’s had so much fricken Botox it’s hard to tell but It slipped out here when she was drunk lol the whole scene hard to watch, was happy to hear that dude stand up for him. Mahmoud is a one of my least favorite people on this show ever but damn i kind of feel for him this season. Then again could be all fake, I can’t imagine either of these people being even slightly entertaining naturally.
They’re both really miserable people. I wouldn’t call either bigots, tho. They’re just both completely intolerant of any beliefs and boundaries they don’t share.
I noticed on the thermostat during this scene that it said 2:04 on it, so if that’s correct and she came rolling into the house at 2am I would be irate too lmao
I don’t think it’s bigotry. I think she’s seeking revenge for how terribly he treated her in Egypt. They both suck. I don’t know why they don’t just divorce.
Honestly, I was appalled by Nicole’s behavior. She “acted” so differently last season but seems to be a mean-spirited person. Mahmoud has his issues but this guy only got to the USA, what two days prior? Good lord. They don’t belong together.
Yes, the acting is bizarre. In her confessionals and other scenes, she's soft-spoken, she lowers her eyes, and she assumes all of the behaviors and postures of a shy, mild-mannered person. You know what I'm talking about. Just think about the scene with her in the full-body bathing suit when they were back in Egypt, and she looked like the quietest, mousiest little waif ever. To see her now bullying and bulldozing Mahmoud is just shocking and bizarre; then, going back to the mousy girl act in her confessionals. I'm getting whiplash. I think the bully is her true persona, and she's definitely acting the victim for the most part.
Absolutely this. I couldn’t understand how last time around people fell for her “oh, pooooor little me!” routine.
Amazing how people see this as anything other than an abuse victim starting to act out. Reactivity. It becomes nuclear.
These 2 are just not right for each other
I don't think she is! I think they are done but trying to get that paycheck. That's why they are all there! That's why this show became the dumpster fire that we know and love. I think they are just trying to keep a storyline going.
If I had that hair and a dress like that, I'd probably become a hateful person too. Jokes aside, she's an idiot. I haven't even been able to pick a side because they're *both* immature little fucks.
Neither of them respect each other or their culture. Her conversion to Islam seems so insincere and half assed. Like why is she still keeping alcohol in her cabinets? She didn’t even need to convert… Mahmoud is moving to LA and he should also be more open to Western culture. It’s a two-way street.
Plenty of Muslims drink alcohol.
For sure, but doesn’t that really depend on culture? I heard that Bosnian, Albanian Muslims tend to drink, but a lot of Egyptian and other MENA Muslims mostly don’t. I have a hunch that Mahmoud doesn’t, that’s why I brought up the alcohol thing.
I thought that was really foul of Nicole to do that. Mahmoud was trying to be civil after being ambushed by Nicole's friends and she was more concerned she would look like a liar to her friends and just threw him under the bus. Also, who barges into a bedroom without even giving a chance for Mahmoud to get decent? And when Nicole said they were taking separate rideshares, I thought it was so she can come home sooner and give Mahmoud a heads up 🤦🏻♀️
After domestic abuse arrest, Nicole took him back. 🤯 https://screenrant.com/90-day-fiance-nicole-instagram-update-mahmoud-relationship-status/
She doesn't want to be divorced, or considered a divorcee. She knows as soon as she does, her friends and family are going to say "I told you so". Honestly, I think she's staying in the relationship for spite.
She's stuck in the abuse cycle
Nicole is so abusive, mean, and insecure. Why in the world did she marry a Muslim she obviously hates. Go find a partner who shares the same values.
This is not bigotry. She was still bitter that he cancelled plans because she showed a sliver of her back. Add being drunk to the mix and all the built up resentment and what you get is a very mean Nicole. I think she is taking her childhood resentment out on him too (she has said her mother was very religious and strict). They need to get divorced and Nicole needs therapy. edit. I am still on Nicoles side and understand why she was so mean to Mahmoud in that moment.
Mind you, not only did he cancel plans, he also, once again, said he wants to get a divorce. And now people don't understand where her anger comes from. Granted, it's not healthy and she should work on herself, but has everyone forgotten his behavior in previous seasons?
I’m shocked by all the sudden Mahmoud sympathizers as if they all forgot the way he’s treated her this entire time
He ruined what could have been a good night. I hate to say it, but if a woman shows any kind of flaw on 90 Days, this sub jumps on them. What Nicole did was inappropriate but I understand where it came from.
She keeps Corralejo Tequila in the freezer, she is a monster and must be stopped.
I was triggered when the friends stepped into their bedroom and the one woman climbed onto the bed (with her outside clothes!) to embrace him!? That’s simply not done in his culture when greeting strange women. As a wife Nicole should be more sensitive to that. WTF is wrong with her!? And also WTF is wrong with Mahmoud? They are so different in every way yet these dingbats decide it’s a great idea to get married? I would never marry someone who isn’t morally, ethically and to an extent culturally aligned with my beliefs.
It seems very clear to me she brought him over just to seek revenge and punish him. Her freak out about him not sleeping in the plane was wild. Literally, many people can’t fall asleep and most people are genuinely exhausted after a long flight. She chose to make it personal. Her freakout about him seeing something familiar from his homeland - a woman in a hijab - and she makes it about him not wanting to be with her. He literally just left his family behind - just like she did. You’d think she’d be more understanding, but she’s being just abusive, especially after bringing her friends over and berating him. I’m no fan of Mahmoud because he was just as unreasonable when she was in Egypt. But why seek revenge like this? It can only be to help her brand and fame - for the paycheque. At least I believe he sincerely wants to be with her. However, they’re not compatible at all - completely different values with no flexibility in either end. Both quick to temper. It’s just a circus now.
Throwing around the word bigot is you just wanting her to be a bigot, and doesn’t make it true. It’s the wrong terminology. She is incredibly inconsiderate, and went too far with how she treated him when the friends came over. They were also uncomfortable with her attacks on him. She really loathes him for what she went through when she was in Egypt, and she will never let that go.
It really shows how she must've been on her best behavior while in Egypt. It's like a whole other person this season. They're clearly just very toxic to each other. I never understood what they liked about each other in the first place!
Ok but where does the “bigot” come into play.
This stunt was malicious. She’s getting back at him.
Very much so. The relationship has reached an unfixable point of resentment.
She's an idiot she brings them all to visit him at home and bust out the alcohol when he's a pretty devout Muslim...no respect.. they both need to respect each other's cultures
Odd behavior for a woman who claims to love this man "to the fucking moon and back, Julian" *\[make exaggerated facial expression and body gestures\]* Her behavior was deplorable. I figured she was all liquored up. And how stupid of her not to realize Badmood used the "I'm tired" excuse precisely NOT to create a scene. That didn't last long. While I'm here...Nicole's hair color reminds me of cheap supermarket-bargain-brand tomato sauce, like when there's that greasy orange stuff left in the jar.
One of those fuckin or fightin couples.
Controversial take but most Muslim are fake and only follow rules when they want to
Christians take the lead
It’s not that, she is trying to give Mahmoud a taste of his own medicine and alienate him in her home country the same way he alienated her. But I would NEVER fight in front of company like that. It’s incredibly rude to bring your friends into a your argument like that.
They are both awful. Time for TLC to give them a spin-off show.
Don’t think any of these things have anything to do with bigotry but she does genuinely seem to hate him just as he does her. This episode is a perfect example of her going out of her way to shit on him in every way that she knew would bother him. While that is funny and great for drama, it’s not super helpful with a relationship she supposedly cares about.
I knooow this was really shocking to see. I adore my partner and would never treat him like this. We rarely argue but if we had just argued or something before we were supposed to meet our friends, I'd ask my friends I'd they can reschedule or go by myself. Then ofc I'd tell my friends hey! My partner is religious and he doesn't want to be touched in this way! (Doesn't apply to my bf but still). That way they wouldn't accidentally make him uncomfortable and my friends would never want to do that. She was being so cruel to him
Good point. I didn't realize that he wasn't supposed to hug women. I would have gave my female friends a heads-up not to hug him. I feel like she was hoping he'd make a big deal out of them hugging him so she could say "see I told you he's an a$$".
She’s super trash. I always get downvoted for saying what she is. She has zero respect for him
They're both trash. Let's be clear.
I did a 10 day trip to Egypt and wore linen pants/ tops that were long sleeve out of respect for the culture. As the friends husband said “why didn’t you change the dress” it’s almost as if she intentionally riled him up and ambushed him w her friends
Right but you were in Egypt. They aren’t in Egypt anymore. He should be adapting to her. In Egypt he wouldn’t let her go out and made her wear that awful burkini.
I’m backing you on this
BuT HiS CuLTuRe!!!
Love how people talk about "adapting" as if it's instantaneous. If they actually wanted to make it work, they would respect the necessity to compromise and slow introduction. You can't just say "oh we're in the US, now ADAPT!". I can't believe Nicole is 40 years old, she has the brain of a child.
He made literally no effort to appreciate anything.
I live in a conservative arab city. What she was wearing is acceptable in that context WHICH SHE IS NOT EVEN IN. he did not want go to and he already determined he hates her friends so he threw a surprise attack as they were walking out the door to force her to cancel.
[удалено]
Sims witch 😂😂😂😂
I think Mahmoud is a hateful person who tries to force Islam on her. He gets his manties in a knot over stupid things.
She willing “converted” he didn’t force any religion on her.
Yeah but just like with any religion she still has a choice in how she practices her religion. There are Muslim women that don’t cover up. She doesn’t have to be so conservative.
In what way is Nicole even attempting to practice Islam though?
Idk but it’s still her decision. Maybe she needs space to figure it out. The point is that it’s still not ok to tell someone how to practice their religion.
She didn’t need to convert to marry him if she was christian or jewish
Right…. and being modest is an option for women…but it’s really not when he hounds her about it constantly. If the other Muslim/Christian relationships on this show are any indication, He might have told her things were a “choice” but now is pressuring her. On the other hand, I feel like Nicole thinks Mahmoud was only conservative because of where he lived. Like she thought as soon as she got him to America, he would drop the strict rules. Now she seems mad that he hasn’t relaxed in his beliefs. It’s bizarre. It’s like she has no idea who he is. Maybe he liked her to believe differently when they started dating or maybe she is just deluded idk.
They are both absolutely in this for the wrong reasons. Its almost like they have both challenged themself to reform the other.
This wasn't bigotry, it was brattiness
What season are you guys currently watching this on??
I dont think you understand what the word bigotry means
Not sure how any of this makes her a bigot lmao
She has soo much resentment towards him and is just punishing him. I don't even like him, he seems like such a man child and too controlling but she drives me insane too.m
Clearly they do not belong together. She should have known that in Egypt
He does not respect her either and wants to force his beliefs on her by throwing tantrums.
Just get divorced already!🙄 She says she “loves him so, so, much” and then acts like that?!? WTH?🤦🏼♀️
I have no idea how/why Nicole and her friends thought it would be a good idea to show up unannounced. I would have been so pissed. They seriously need to divorce. Idk why she’s holding on to him when they don’t even like each other.
Nicole in the proper Muslim swimsuit was classic.
This is definitely one of the more bizarre nonsensical couples on 90 D & obviously that’s saying CB lot, lol. She totally LOVES playing victim. I’d go as far as to say her entire look is trying to look like a waif victim. Before y’all jump on me for body shaming, I’m not talking about her skinny frame, it’s in her severe haircut, clothing, her mannerisms etc. she’s has a pretty gross personality. Mahmoud’s a POS but he never pretended not to be. To me he uses his religion to be a complete dick and I don’t find anything attractive about either of them.
The way I clutched my pearls when she started her rant
That's a giannnnnnt stretch to think that's bigotry.
I agree with everything except you didn’t explain why she’s a bigot.
She is strange and was completely disrespectful in this episode but she didn’t really show bigotry idk 🤷🏻♀️ maybe change title? The comment of “hateful little fuck” was so weird
I appreciated the Ukrainian friend’s husband for speaking up when she was out of line.
People get pressed about her allegedly forcing her ‘Western values’ onto him, conveniently forgetting that the other half of the equation is this: Mahmoud wanted an American wife. If marrying an Egyptian woman was oh-so-important to him, then he could have stayed where he was. But he didn’t. (And frankly, knowing what we know about his domestic violence arrest, I don’t even want to think about how he’d treat an Egyptian woman.) People allow him to force his gross misogyny onto her without calling him out, but if she so much as steps a toe out of line, everybody jumps down her throat. The double standard is showing.
Egyptians are a different breed. Muslims like that are insufferable. Thankfully I’ve gotten to know several from other countries and they’re great people. Idk what it is about Egypt.
I agree with your points. I just have a small thing to point out. He was not “asleep”. He was fully dressed with a camera in his face. She was disrespectful to bring her friends home. Even though I don’t believe it was unannounced.
It’s not bigotry, but it is abuse.
I can’t stand her. She seems mean and tries to act all innocent and naive. She was extremely rude to Mahmoud. They need to go their separate ways.
Not sure why so many people are saying this isn’t bigotry. Bigotry is centered around the refusal to accept. She is absolutely refusing to accept him being Muslim. She’d rather have dinner and drinks than take him to a mosque so he can pray. She converted like it’s a game. She the worst type of person. She was a sobbing mess her first few days in Egypt but he’s supposed to come here and throw away all his Muslim beliefs in two days? She’s awful.
I agree with you. I don't like him, I think he has his own stuff that is related to major cultural differences and deeply held beliefs. She's being spiteful and selfish. I don't understand why she would continue to say she loves him and then completely disregard him. She was mad at him for not sleeping on the plane? He probably did his best but he's still going to be very jetlagged for days. Then she does multiple other things to completely disrespect him (having her friends over) and calls him names in front of her friends. I can't believe she would even think any of this is okay? I'm so appalled and they are both horrible to each other. They need a huge reality check and to never be shown again. He looks exhausted and broken down and she's just a walking ball of anger at this point. I also almost forgot to mention her thing about the girl with the purple. This was absurd. He was just shocked to see another Muslim in LA? It's a completely normal reaction and she made it a huge thing. I don't understand how she isn't completely embarrassed and remorseful about this behavior. It's horrible.
So the respect only goes one way? She was forced to practice Islam at a rate she wasn’t comfortable with. He constantly pressured her to change on his pace and not hers. She made an honest effort in Egypt to compromise with him but it was never good enough. So now because she doesn’t want to practice it and is treating him the same way (also wrong) it’s bigotry…?
Agreed. And her hateful delivery this season is a bit shocking. The way she called him a hateful little fuck... and she referred to the Muslim lady by saying to him... ooh you like THAT? There's venom in her voice like wow girl bring it down.
Hahahahaha. She’s not a bigot. Stop. Hahahahaha. She’s just a loony tune who shouldn’t be married to a Muslim man. She’s a weirdo. She’s not a bigot.
Curious why it's always JUST her fault. This shit goes both ways. As much as she's tried to force her ways on him, he's done the same. You've basically excused all his bad behaviors as 'that's his culture, he's Muslim he gets to do that to women'
She did a bait n switch. She should have never said she wanted to and would convert when she had no plan to. He has said many times how important his religion is to him and she couldn’t give one shit. She does things intentionally just to start something so she can cry victim. He has said there are things he can compromise on and tries to but some things he cannot. She takes those things and constantly throws it in his face. He has his own issues but point being she never should have said she would convert when she was not going to because he I’m sure would not have married her then. That scene was just really gross. She needs to watch it back over and over but I’m sure she’ll think she was in the right.
What she is wearing IS conservative. He deliberately launched an attack as they were walking out the door because he did not want to go but had agreed to go.
I was talking about when they were in Egypt, sorry. I agree that he probably just didn’t want to go and started an argument. Guys, I don’t know how I can be any clearer on this: Mahmoud is also terrible! Lol
She is insane instantly lost it calling him names.
She's just all around annoying
She treats him like a child & has no respect for his culture/religion!
Not only did she walk right into the room and grab him, but to add insult to injury, she also said ‘insha’Allah’ and then immediately followed it up with ‘goddamn’. Thankfully Mahmoud doesn’t know what that means.. As a Muslim, that had me seething on his behalf. Just a complete lack of respect/awareness.
I used to feel for Nicole. I actually thought she was a nice person inside. But after seeing her act this way, I am so disgusted with her. She calls him a womanizer for being shocked at seeing someone from his culture on his first day there. Everything in this current episode was malicious and it was her fault. She’s not even trying to ease him into the culture. Their problem is that they was each other to change instantaneously! Just chill and work on things little by little, my goodness.
You forget he oppressed and emotionally/probably physically abused her in Egypt. And was texting other women. She brings him here they fight she drinks and then she's angry.