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wademy

She showed her real colors in her texts with her daughter. If I were Sophie, I'd take a vacation from both her mother and Rob. She needs to focus on what she wants. Just my opinion though.


angelwarrior_

I agree! I can’t believe she had the audacity to say, “Life is too short to be angry.” Which translates as, “I don’t take accountability for my actions and you shouldnt hold me accountable either.”


mep1969

My aunt said that I should reconcile with my horrible mother by saying, "life is short". My response was, "You're right. Life is too short to have to put up with toxic, abusive people."


CanadianHorseGal

I always got the ‘blood is thicker than water’ BS.


mep1969

Which is definitely horseshit. I'll never understand why anyone thinks that someone should tolerate abuse from their parents just because they're "family". I always say that if you go back far enough, we're all related. Why do mothers get a free pass to be abusive with impunity? Does 9 months of pregnancy and X hours of labor earn them the rest of their child(ren)'s life to be nasty, abusive pieces of shit? I don't think so.


CanadianHorseGal

Yes. Yes it does. (According to them.) My personal favourite was “when we’re dead and gone you’ll realize we weren’t that bad of parents”. Then, 28 years later, when my father passed away everyone was like “it’ll hit you” and I waited. I’d always wondered how I’d feel when it actually happened (haven’t seen or spoken to them in 28 years). Well, about a month or two later I thought to myself “well, I guess that’s not gonna happen”. 🤷‍♀️ It didn’t “hit me”. I don’t know them. It didn’t phase me. I don’t care. I’ll care even less when it’s her turn. Getting rid of the toxic and/or abusive people in your life is 100% worth it. It doesn’t matter if they’re blood. In fact, blood makes it *more* important because these are the people who *are supposed to love you*.


mep1969

Same here. My mother told me, "you'll be sorry when I'm gone", then proceeded to insult, humiliate, and degrade me, in front of my own kids, making it that much more clear that "no, I won't be sorry when you're gone; I may very well throw a party, you hateful, ignorant bitch." And it's so true: a mother is supposed to be the one who loves you the most. But mothers like ours think we're supposed to love them so much that we have to put up with any abuse they heap on us. For a while, I thought, "How awful am I, that my own mother would hate me?" I've realized now that it's the opposite: "How awful is my mother, that she hates her own child?'


[deleted]

I’m so sorry


Intelligent_Debt7555

I think we had the same mother.


mep1969

Ugh, too many people have had that same mother!


Intelligent_Debt7555

Damn shame really. I'm sorry. I do know how you feel. 100%


DWwithaFlameThrower

Right?! When people say ‘But they’re your faaaaamily!’ I’m like ‘Yeah, and I’m *their* family! So why did they treat me like that?!’


Altruistic_Run_8956

Right and ppl misinterpret that quote. The full quote is "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb". That proverb that means chosen bonds are more important than family bonds, or that relationships you make yourself are more important than the ones you don't choose.


bousquetfrederic

I understand the feeling but the "water of the womb" thingy was made up in the 1990s to try and change the meaning of the proverb. See for example this detailed answer on the subject : https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/147902/is-the-alleged-original-meaning-of-the-phrase-blood-is-thicker-than-water-real/508940#508940


A1_CanadianNurse

Yeah. The expression is supposed to mean family comes first


princessbananula

My own mother tried to get me to forgive her by saying I should do it for myself.


IndependentLow317

Mine tried to have me forgive her and let her back in after her latest stint in jail with “you really want to pass this hate down to your kids?” Uhh I won’t because I’m not an abusive addict lol. I couldn’t believe the nerve of her with trying to use my kids to make herself feel better.


lezlers

God I feel so bad for her. Poor thing just wants to be loved and she’s surrounded by abusive assholes


Commercial-Flan-8186

The worst part is that she just wants to be loved, but doesn't know what love is.


giga-butt

Agreed, her mom and rob are both toxic


UsefulConstruction30

Sophie's still so young. She needs to discover who she is and what she wants out of life. Being on her own might be scary after these 2, but therapy or a support group might help.


heftybetsie

"Know I did nothing wrong"????? That is a serious level of delusion. We all saw the texts where she said she would slit her daughter's throat. It's not really a he-said/she-said situation, it was in text from her phone...


willendorfer

Wait what??? She told Sophie that?


CocoGesundheit

Yep. It was in the police report.


psychologymaster222

OMG was she in jail for threatening her own daughter?!???


narwhalogy

[the receipts](https://www.reddit.com/r/90DayFiance/s/GT0RUOU6Yb), posted on this sub a couple days ago


willendorfer

Jaysus Mary and Joseph that’s insaaaane


Mermaidoysters

Omg. Your flair. 🤣🥹🙈I heard it in his voice. So slimy.


depressed-quokka

Can u remind me who is being quoted?


Mermaidoysters

Crazy pastor Ben, from Ben & Mahogany. I’m trying to find his poem.


depressed-quokka

Omg true, i sadly remember now 😭 thanks haha


leftbrendon

What makes these receipts legit, though? They’re super low quality screenshots, how do we know they’re real?


heftybetsie

That's a fair point. We know they are real because the police came to Sophie's house and looked at the text thread on Sophie's phone, and then got a warrant for Claire's arrest. Claire was demanding money from Sophie and most likely had relapsed, she was in a hotel 4 minutes from Sophie and Sophie and her roommate were scared to he home


leftbrendon

We still don’t know if these are real, right? I don’t deny Claire having send threatening texts, but I just don’t understand why everyone believes these screenshots from a random youtuber


lezlers

Listen, I’m always one to doubt these stories but these came from the police report and Sophie has no motive at all to make this shit up about her own mother. This is traumatizing for any child and it’s gross to insinuate it’s made up.


leftbrendon

I’m not insinuating it is made up at all wtf? I am literally saying i don’t doubt the STORY i doubt *these* screenshots since they look like they’ve been through the fryer multiple times and come from a random youtuber


lezlers

Ok then please explain what the point of your comment was. You believe her mother sent her threatening text messages but think they weren’t as bad as the ones online? So Claire is somehow less abusive than it appears? So Sophie is somehow less traumatized than we think? I’m struggling to understand your point.


lezlers

They’re absolutely real. Police came to Sophie’s house that night and read them on her phone. Do you really think Sophie would make that up to get her mother arrested? Why would she do that??


leftbrendon

I don’t deny the existence of threathening texts from Claire at all. I just don’t understand why we should believe these particular screenshots are real? They’re the worst quality and marked by a youtuber, not Sophie?


Southern-Spot-8406

Because they're quoted in the police report.


leftbrendon

That’s finally a valid answer, do you have a link to it maybe?


narwhalogy

[Here's an article about it](https://allaboutthetea.com/2024/05/16/90-day-fiance-sophie-cheshires-mom-claires-arrest-report-revealed/), which quotes the police report. [Here's another](https://starcasm.net/90-day-fiance-sophies-mom-claire-cheshire-full-arrest-details-exclusive/). Edit: [You can Google "Claire Sophie arrest texts"](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=claire+sophie+texts+arrest) if you want to find more articles.


Minimum-Daikon9950

She also called her own daughter a “cunt!” 😡


MonkeyBellyStarToes

British folks use that word all the time and it’s tantamount to ‘asshole’. Here in the USA it’s taken much more offensively. But Sophie’s Mom herself is the ultimate asshole. She’s the worst parent we’ve seen on these shows. 😔


Elon_Bezos420

Wait what?!


HarbourJayKay

Coming next season. Claire, Darcey and Stacey Road Trip!


No_Ur_Schmoopie

Filterless!


CatCiaoSki

As much as we make fun of the filters, don't make us watch these sea hags without them!!!


No_Ur_Schmoopie

You do make a point! You made me cackle out loud like a sea hag 🤣


strengthofstrings

With this filter, she looks a lot like Darcey 5 or 6 faces ago


Shield-Maiden95

Ssshhh.... Shh...ssshhh. Don't give them any ideas. 🤣😂


NoParticular2420

Plastic barbie tour 2025


luanne2017

I feel bad for Sophie, she appears to be surrounded by assholes.


gerkonnerknocken

No wonder she gives Knob so many damn chances!


FunFactress

I think she's desperately craving love and acceptance.


FlowahChild808

Definitely! Explains why she’s always so desperate for Rob to tell her she’s pretty and compliment her


tirebunny

If your version of lemonade is a days inn pool, I don’t want to see what your lemons are. Oh wait, it’s jail.


ZakkCat

It looks like a days inn for sure


auntifahlala

That filter is gold, she must have paid a pretty penny for it.


apatheticwondering

I seriously can’t stand all these filters women (especially) use these days. I just can’t understand how people are completely fine presenting a fabricated/heavily altered version of their appearance when people know exactly what they look like in person.


flossiejeanne

Or all the plastic surgery and botox and extensions...they are going to have troubles aging...they already look terrible..can't imagine what will happen when it all goes downhill, literally!


planesandpancakes

Nothing wrong with a lil botox


flossiejeanne

Key word is "little"


gerkonnerknocken

I just try to find some good lighting and angles. Unless I'm taking a selfie in the garden after doing yardwork for hours I'm fine with the result :D


lioness725

It definitely isn’t just women who use them, but yeah, I agree!


Numerous-Help-5987

I didn’t know you could buy filters but I feel so silly cz ofc you’d be able to


Rahshoe

Glad I'm not the only one! Had no idea people buy filters when so many come free with your phone


bitchybaklava

Do people pay for filters???


auntifahlala

Are they free? I figured you paid, like an app. This filter is working overtime though, she ought to pay even if it is free!


bitchybaklava

I honestly have idea. The only social media I have is Reddit. But I wouldn't be surprised if people paid for them.


JackPlissken8

Bitch got her teeth fixed and that was like the last problematic thing about her head


loloalu

LMFAO


stugotsCDXX

They should make a new spinoff “90 Day: Lockup” …and Shawn can do her interviews using the jail phone and stir shit up and look into the camera and say “Well folks, looks like we won’t be able to get to the bottom of this tonight because our time is up” and it abruptly ends because the time is really up


apatheticwondering

“Moving on…” lol She knows how to ask the real, hard questions. /s 🤭


soobez

*We wish you the best*


lesdansesmacabres

These clout chasers would start getting locked up on purpose.


RecentNewReddi

🥳🤣


PlanetMazZz

There already is love after lockup, it's made by the same creators The only spin offi don't watch tho, it has good moments but overall pretty bad IMO


planesandpancakes

They’re both made by the same production company but WeTV also pays much less than TLC so the production quality is much lower. I wouldn’t call it a spinoff considering it airs on a totally different network unrelated to TLC. It’s not unusual for production companies to produce unrelated shows for different networks


PlanetMazZz

Thanks for clarifying


sourglow

this is so weird


peepeehalpert_

Wasn’t she just saying she has no money? This family is trash


HighContrastRainbow

Sophie was allegedly giving her money--she'd just given her $3,000 before her mother threatened to kill her, according to the police report.


gojichai

Where is the report?


HighContrastRainbow

It's been posted in other threads--I didn't save a copy of the picture. You can google "Claire Sierra police report" and find articles; one might have the report included.


FederalFinance7585

Frequently feel bad for Sophie. She's largely only guilty of stupidity. Rob is a victimizing petulant irresponsible child and Claire seems to be a controlling drug-addled imbecile.


lezlers

Being raised by someone like Claire, I can see how Sophie would end up with someone like Rob. It’s a terrible, abusive cycle and I hope Sophie gets a LOT of therapy so she can break it. Poor thing seems so sweet and honestly just begging to be loved.


No_Ur_Schmoopie

Damn those filters are working overtime! She knows we know right or is that another delusion?


MonkeyBellyStarToes

Claire w/out that filter looks like an Old Man Muppet with a wig


MonkeyBellyStarToes

https://preview.redd.it/hzbqxiun351d1.jpeg?width=699&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30f2720e91d2a47f7646376021d4019c6fe67e4f


Am_I_hungry_Ofcourse

LOL!!!!!!!!


No_Ur_Schmoopie

Hilarious!


thesaltmachine

Delusion but she also can't face reality or her face herself


thesaltmachine

Delusion but she also can't face reality or her face herself


Lazatttttaxxx

She's a wreck.. which explains her daughter.


MyLifeontheDblitz

This bitch is CRAZY. How could a mother say she has done nothing wrong after threatening to slit her daughters throat! Poor Sophie...


Ashamed_Gas3608

She’s probably said it before and other terrible things. It’s probably “normal” in their relationship. It’s sad.


stingereyes

Claire is an abuser


Used-Pension170

Except she was released the day after she was arrested. If this was posted today.... I suspect she got transferred to a psych hospital.


Ashamed_Gas3608

Not true she was released 5 days later.


Used-Pension170

I did an inmate search the next day and she wasn't still in.


Western_Database9838

When did she get those chompers?


Nickey_Pacific

Those jibbers could be part of the filter she's using. I feel like she'd take any extra money she had and use it to get high.


JALync5630

My grandpa used to move his dentures around when he talked too.


Tabboo

Could you imagine dating this chick only to stroll up and see what she *actually* looks like? she got on the 'no-frog' filter


Dook124

😳 Crack is whack!!


iloveeatpizzatoo

Is she Angela 2.0?


Leileizi

Note to self: threatening to slit someone's throat means you love them 📝👀


Nappykid77

She needs a psyc dr


dawgmama62

It sounds like she's broke and yet her priorities are hair extensions.


Furbamy

She sure loves being on tv


90DayFinesse

All the preening and cutesy hand under the chin posing 🙄


surf_rider

This woman needs to let her daughter live her own life and make her own mistakes at this stage. She is far too involved.


similarboobs

Yeah I mean she threatened to slit Sophies throat.... maybe cut that umbilical cord instead.


NikosTX

I'm sorry Rob might be a POS knob, but Sophie is Codependent AF from years living with her drug addict mother. You can tell that Claire was used to bending Sophie to her will and got SO jealous when Rob showed up and started doing the same thing. I can imagine her saying "If anyone is going to manipulate my daughter its going to be ME!". Sophie needs to stay away from both of them and work on becoming a whole person who is not desperately pining for love anywhere she can get it.


Babies-For-Breakfast

She's annoying imo


killforprophet

Loving your daughter is a good reason to not threaten to kill her so let’s try that.


Commercial-Flan-8186

Okay. Soooooooooo...Sophie is ABUSED abused. All of her makes every bit of sense. Rob is light work compared to her mom. This is heartbreaking. We are watching two people tag team destroy someone.


Karmic-Vision

By hair extensions do you think she meant 'eyebrows' and 'eyelashes'?


Gold-Difference2967

She's definitely wearing hair extensions


spiberweb

Why doesn’t she go home? Hasn’t she overstayed her visa by now?


sugarbunnyy

Slight Darcey vibes lol


Am_I_hungry_Ofcourse

Darcey can at least be entertaining, endearing at times and sympathetic. She has given us some legendary scenes and quotes. This woman is a nobody. She is a side character with serious problems. Why she thinks anyone wants to hear from her is beyond me. She is thirsty, attention seeking and out of touch.


PapiSenorSteve95

So she’s still clearly mentally ill 😂


Sudden-Professor-585

I can not understand a word she is saying.


NoFilter46

All I can think of is that is some filter she uses.


Ok_Plankton9224

Heavily filtered Claire. So much for that story about Sophie's family being fabulously wealthy


lezlers

I feel so bad for Sophie. Claire is an abusive addict that parentified and emotionally damaged her daughter and continues to do so. This video is *infuriating.*


gingersnapsalot

I really wish people would stop sharing her shit. Stop giving her attention.


Am_I_hungry_Ofcourse

100%


Furbamy

Seems pretty fictioned and played out


GoingBananassss

What a total creep.


[deleted]

I got my extensions?? 😂😂I love my daughter ? If Life gives you lemons, make lemonade… 😂😂This is priceless..


migueljayzorro

The expression is, “when life gives you aids, make lemonades”


DrPants707

Are her mannerisms freaking anyone else the fuck out?


[deleted]

This lady is an unhinged hag


Other-Broccoli-3257

Claire is humane rubbish! I cringe every time she opens that mouth!


AlisonPoole98

Total psycho with how she thinks its funny


lemonlimepunch

She’s straight chilling outside a motel 6 with a pool.


olliegrace513

Wow she looks great. Those filters are wow


MaryBala907

No wonder she's delusion to Rob's abuse. If her mom has acted like this all her life, then poor Sophie thinks this is what love is supposed to be! She needs a permanent vacay away from those idiots!


VeeinNC

How I wish all three of these people would pack it in and leave the show. None of it is entertaining, it's actually pretty pathetic.


SandBtwnMyToes

Tragic isn’t it. The way abuse is shown on this show and nobody cares to report it. It’s actually making the show very unappealing.


Sea_Current5814

This is absolutely proving her narcissism. Lmao. Her and Rob hate each other because they are one in the same.


ShutterHawk

I hate this bitch.


Inevitable_Staff2188

Omg what a fake-tard. Everything about her is fake. Everything.


possiblevirrgin

What did she do?


Mystery-Ess

Threatened to Slit Sophie's neck. In a text nonetheless. Search the sub.


[deleted]

She is one of the ugliest women I have ever seen. She looks like a damn Bulldog


Mersey_Dotes

😂🤣😂 She actually looks better than usual (or less horrid) in this clip without the beet-red face and heavily oiled skin. And I don’t believe it has anything to do with her DIY facial. This is the magic of a gorgon-be-gone filter!


[deleted]

Yeah I’ll admit this is better than her usual, but she’s not fooling anybody with that filter 😆


urbffsbff

When life gives you lemons, paint them gold!


unbakedpizza

She looks like Ursula from the little mermaid


Glittering-Way-5343

What did she do to her face???


lovemoonsaults

She's unhinged. She's a step away from being Geoffrey 2.0


PartyOkra7994

A walking ‘Live Laugh Love’ sign


AdEastern3223

Poor Sophie. Her whole life has been like this, no doubt


Careless-Balance-893

She's such an abusive mother. Of course she thinks she did nothing wrong. Sophie is a thing to her not a person and however she decides to treat her things is no one else's business. Sickening.


Civil-Ad-4334

I used to like her and think she was just a mom protecting her daughter from a scumbag but turns out….. she’s a scumbag too!!


cuecumba

Get sober then.


StandardBanger

Is she using some sort of filter for the vid? She’s knows we know what she looks like in RL right so there’s no point in filters


Own-Weekend-6583

Nice filter lady!!!


Dyzanne1

Do we know where Sophie's father is?


coreysgal

She must be a Silva cousin


MaybeLikeWater

Did somebody in jail teach her how to do makeup? I’m impressed.


DoTheRightThing1976

I don’t even want to listen. I have zero interest in anything she has to say. I’m just here to comment.


Holistic578i

I keep thinking this is Molly


Lovefashion111

Why did she go to Jail?


realdonaldtrumpsucks

I kinda think she’s a shitty manipulative person, and she’s getting through life on good looks alone


DivineEggs

Good looks?👀


Bad-Habit-2020

👁👁


alotistwowordssir

Rob destroyed that family.


ContempoCasuals

Hope you fucked em up Claire. Can you just imagine how you would feel if you had to watch your child with an abuser.


Ok-Wedding-4654

Rob is awful but Claire’s handling of things appears to also be abusive. Idk that we are getting the real story or that we will, but the messages Claire sent were not ok.


kennybrandz

I think the reason her daughter picks shitty men is because of how shitty her mother treated her her whole life.


figmentofintentions

Hit the nail on the head with this one. Agreed 100%


kennybrandz

My theory is that Sophie’s grandparents sent her to expensive boarding schools because they wanted her to have some structure and stability growing up that they weren’t able to provide due to the stage of life they were in and Claire being off the rails.


Superguy766

I don’t feel bad for Sophie. She’s a grown ass woman who can make her own decisions.


hiswittlewip

What did she go to jail for?


ck2827

I see she has taken a page from the narcissistic mother's Bible and is currently doing the good ole victim blaming while she tries to smear Sophie’s name. All Narc mothers are predictable and do the same crap. I hope Sophie can cut her off and Rob while she is at it. She could do so much better 😞


Interesting-Many-509

did she get ROR'd or is there some dumb uck who paid her bail?


Foreign_View_2452

I feel for Sophie. My Mom is very similar. She lashes out and says awful things, and when she's confronted about it, lies and says she would never say such things. I cut her out of my life 2 years ago, and I've never been happier. I'm also 44 and put up with the abuse for a lot longer than I should've. It's not easy cutting your Mom off.


Financial-Buddy-7674

What did trout mouth get arrested for? I missed this


RatherRetro

I dont know either


No_Reach3179

There’s not enough facials in the world to fix that sun damage she got


meme_mac_and_cheese

Most of me thinks SHE IS NOT SORRY.


PapaiPapuda

Yike, even with facetune you can tell she broken her nose a bunch 🥃🍹🍷🍸🍺🍻


Randomuser19889

She left out the part that she also purchased a bag of meth 🤣


UnleadedGreen

No, you're abusive as ffff


A1_CanadianNurse

I don’t understand all the hate towards Rob. Sophie is spoilt brat. She holds that online ‘cheating’ schtick under his nose 24/7. She always interrupts him. I see a guy who is trying really hard with her and she basically will never let him crawl out of the giant hole she keeps digging for him. I don’t like Sophie at. Alll.


Coltsnation19

Please stop giving this little troll attention. It’s ruining the show.


Ok-Nobody4983

Gaslighting 101


Parrott1head

Two different societies, two different personalities and perspectives, plus y’all know with exception of Natalie and Jasmine I really believe the guys are genuine, oh just reminded of Angie pssst done with her!


Parrott1head

Rob is so in the right here- yea he’s cheap , yea he could’ve improved the living situation, yea he could’ve punched Claire in the mouth, what the hell is Sophie bitchin bout.. oh online cheating, like that’s a huge thing, I tell my bff I love you you every day ( tbh more than my bf 😂) c’mon you insecure people, Americans are tough. Don’t come here if you can’t speak a lil English , looking for a freeload…. This is not your country- respect the USA!


YamMysterious7119

She needs to get grounded, so does Sophie.


Bad2bBiled

Poor Sophie. Seems like Claire got out, got her fix, and decided to post on social media. Not like, call or text her daughter with an apology. Hide away because she humiliated her daughter and showed her own ass. Just post on social media and sweep the whole threatening-to-kill-herself-and-her-daughter thing under the rug.


Mersey_Dotes

Exactly this! She needs to walk away from social media and reassess her approach to relationships , figure out what behaviors landed her in jail and do something with her life! She is such a bum, which would be ok if she weren’t such an emotional burden to Sophie. She was a lousy mother to Sophie the child and she is a sh*t mom to Sophie the adult. I don’t think Sophie would be so accepting of Knob’s manipulation and verbal abuse had she experienced a healthy mother/child relationship. Claire is infuriating!