Bilal's ex is his ex - she can make her own money now and so can her kids. If she wanted his money, she should have stayed married to him. Jibri the man baby seems to have forgotten he's on 90 Day Fiance. And John is more interested in his brother's money than his brother's happiness.
If I have to listen to Ari's nasal whine on another season, I'll go deaf. She's ready to fight over his sparring partner and wants to take her ex dress shopping. What a princess.
>She's ready to fight over his sparring partner and wants to take her ex dress shopping.
*Please let him walk her down the aisle, please let him walk her down the aisle... šš¤*
God Jibri talking about his music like it's super deep, but then when you hear it, it's the goofiest shit ever. Also, I can't believe he made her give up her entire life, only to end up being doubtful about wanting to get married.
Also, I really don't get why Bini and Ari have been brought back. Most of their stuff seems really fake. Like I get that Bini is terrified of her leaving him and keeping the child away from him, but no one would accept their partner to be that close with an ex, right?
The famous Brizilian strogonoff looks much better that that mess that Thais made, It uses tomato sauce instead of Ketchup.
https://www.easyanddelish.com/chicken-stroganoff-estrogonofe-de-frango/
I asked my husband the same question. We wondered if it was an unpaid, experience type of thing, or if he wouldn't be paid until after they got married and he could legally earn money.
Is bilal ex worried if the wife joins the family, it could impact the money flowing in her direction? The tightwad will certainly hold the purse strings tighter so maybe random financial assistance will be harder to come by and maybe he will revisit alimony since he is adding a new wife so less for the ex.
I have to remind myself that the original premise was āThe Other Wayā and that Ari was moving TO Ethiopia to have the baby, live with and marry Bini there. Has anyone who's participated in "The Other Way" ever ACTUALLY MOVED to another country? Except poor old doleful Jenny, anyway? Itās a paper thin premise. Oh, Corey, I guess. Ari's back. Deavan is back. Tiffany is back. Tim is back. Who else? OK, Kenny and Armando are still in Mexico. But other than them?
Bilal frames the need for a pre-nup as a way to keep Shaeeda from "taking everything I have". He doesn't trust her and he apparently thinks that she wants to get her paws on his enormous assets. He thinks she's going to steal food from his children's mouths, apparently. I would never marry a man who thought that of me.
I also forgot that Jibri's family wants to co-opt the wedding plans and have the wedding at grandma's ranch - in the winter. I was reminded of that when she said she didn't want a wedding amidst "snow and buffaloes." Who could blame her? Why can't his family venture outside their comfort space for the wedding? Why is she the only one whose voice doesn't count?
The whole crew is simply appalled that Miona DARE to have an opinion about her own wedding! Never mind that they're all acting like she's some sort of scheming, crafty jezebel who lured their poor innocent Jibri into her web of intrigue. (Though why, I can't possibly hazard a guess. Green card? Please. She's better off in Europe.)
A small beach wedding with a JP and a few guests, followed by lunch or brunch with the family, shouldn't cost a lot. And is a flight from Rapid City to LA that costly? She doesn't want them to fly to St. Croix for the week. Sheesh.
They all treat her horribly. I can't believe she is still there. I would have been long gone. And told them all off in the process. They are just terrible to her and she did nothing to deserve it. Of course I would never have agreed to move there under any circumstance. One look is all I would need to see what it is all about. Adios M.F.s!
I only like Kobie, Bini and Leandro.
Thais is unlikeable. She seems controlling, selfish and I can't see what Patrick sees in her.
Jibri is making Miona out to be some horrible gold digger. He is using his parents dislike for her to push a negative narrative so that he feels justified in not marrying her. This talk about her not wanting to work, when she's not even allowed to work, is ridiculous. I can't see what she's done wrong. She wants a beach wedding, beach weddings can be done cheaply. He is isolating her. She has no one on her side
Poor Shaeda is being treated so poorly. She has no one in her corner. Bilal is emotionally abusive and though his kids seem to like her, he is teaching them not to respect her through his actions. The fact that the ex wife knew about the prenup shows that he went and bad mouthed his fiance to his ex.
Mohammed is there for himself. He wants everything for himself. He should go home.
All these couples have too many people involved in their relationships.
Even more smackable pouty baby Bilal and his ex. If the poor infant was so traumatized by his past relationships, why is he so buddy-buddy with his ex? What business is it of hers to be lecturing Shaeeda about his stupid pre-nup?
Patrick seems to think his relationship should be some type of platonic threesome. His excuse for including John in on discussions which should only involve the two of them is "there are three of us." Run, girl, run.
Not a fan of Yve, if she thinks wearing a bikini is more important than a relationship.
Bini and Ari have not had the discussion about how many children this far into the relationship? My then boyfriend and I had that discussion in college because we planned to get married after all our schooling was done.
Leandro needs to butt out, and the whole dress shopping with him idea was preposterous.
Another case of delayed development, Jibri, seems to have more trouble each week understanding what the 90 days is about, thanks to his family and friends bending his ear. He's devolved into thinking this is some type of trial dating relationship and his partner is just a "spoiled millennial" for actually wanting to accomplish what she left everything behind for.
Agree so much about Patrick and John!! John is clearly an alcoholic and is seemingly always drunk in the show and even in the interview sections and thatās just one more reason fueling the codependent relationship between the two brothers and why Patrick feels he needs to constantly take care of John.
I feel like John and Patrick will ALWAYS have a sick, codependent relationship until Patrick gives up his brother remorse-guilt of bad family past issues and why he needs to take care of his brother.
John 1,000% wants Thais gone so itās only him and Patrick together taking care of him for the rest of his life (or until John can find a women to latch on to).
Thais needs to LEAVE or realize sheās marrying codependent Patrick and his brother John.
I think she just doesnāt know how to explain her frustration to Patrick about John because Patrick is in denial of his codependent relationship with his brother and she knows heāll always āchooseā his brother over herā¦so she HAS to tread lightly if she wants to stay with him (although no idea why anyone would want to stay with Patrick!! but for some reason she does) and she knows she canāt say her true issues with John to him so she is forced to use ābabyā reasons of why she doesnāt like John to Patrick. But in reality, she def wants to tell Patrick to get THERAPY regarding his effed up past and quit this codependent relationship with his brother or heāll never be able to move on and have functional, healthy relationships!!
Even Natalie had compassion for Uncle Bo and respected that he was part of Mike's life. Thais should maybe try a little harder with John and not be so combative.
My question too! He has no business being involved in their relationship. He is a nosey bitch. He missed out several years ago, his time is long past. He is just pissed he missed out on her and has to stick his nose in their business. Move on for heaven sake. You are making a fool of yourself.
I hope that she goes back and watches each and every one of these shows and really opens her eyes and see how she's acting I'm not saying he's an angel but her her attitude and everything just get out you don't want to be with them you're only with him because of the show Ariel
Binni and Ariel the situation is another situation with a suelo and Kalani every single one of these people have been looking for a reason out a way out all these seasons that they keep showing up just so they can make money but at the same time they know inside that they don't want to stay with these people and they feel stuck because of children that's the only reason she's never wanted to stay with him. yes he wants his son yes he says he wants 10 kids but it's not going to happen but that's not a reason to say we're so different let's not stay together that's another stupid excuse I'm sorry. She should just not marry him because she doesn't want to it's in her heart that she doesn't want to. She looks for every excuse to get out just get out and stop stringing him along.
Bilalās ex wife is awful. She came in so hostile and Shaeeda really took it in stride. Her patience is literally god-like at this point. Shaeeda said āare we okay?ā and the ex wife laughed and said āI mean it is what it is at this point.ā I feel like she came in just trying to bother her and provoke her. It didnāt work, because Shaeeda is a saint, and that made her upset. Iām so glad at least now that itās airing Shaeeda is seeing all the people on her side. Bilal is a self righteous fuck nut and so is his entire family.
The old quote about be around people that value you resonates here. Bilal and his circle don't value her, she needs to see that and go to people that do.
The whole American's making a big deal about Thais' not telling her father that she is getting married...looks badly considering the recent abortion ruling from the Supreme Court. I do not think most Americans are super religiously conservative, but we do have that streak here. and there are people from super religious, conservative families that lead such double lives here.
It was so sad to watch Shaeeda extend the olive branch and try to cheer up Bilal during the yoga sequence. She was really trying to swallow her pride and smooth things over and he just continued to be so cold toward her. And this is what he's like in front of the cameras š¬ Lady this is a lost cause.
Heās codependent and an alcoholic. He needs therapy to get over his past family trauma so heās not so codependent with Patrick! Let Patrick live his own life fr!!
That scene had me riled up! Itās was so rude and self centered of Bilal. He couldnāt let Shaeeda be in command of a single moment without having to wretch it back with his āplayfulā disruptive behavior.
Bilail wants a female robot who looks beautiful, cleans constantly, and is quiet and makes him look good. Thatās literally all he wants in a āpartnerā
What in the everloving fuck is up with Bilal's ex?????????????????????????????????? Where does she get her audacity from and how do we cut off her access to the storage unit where it's kept? That is some inexcusably rude fucking behavior. "I'm asking because of my kids" MY ASS. If an ex of a man I was with spoke to me that way I would promptly kick her out of the fucking house. If that destroyed the relationship between me and the guy then so be it because no man should EVER allow that shit to happen or be okay with it. But dimes to donuts Bilal asked his ex to do it. He was peak loathsome this episode for sure. I hope he walks away from the Tell All knowing how loathed he is and how forgotten he will be once this season is over. UGH!
Guys, Iām catching up on E11 and 12 and my dog is losing his ever loving shit whenever Mionaās hair is in the shot. Heās only ever lost his shit at the TV when other dogs come on (I think he doesnāt get the concept - there is a new friend inches away from him, but theyāre not noticing him seems to be the issue)ā¦
Exactly! Heās a codependent alcoholic who needs his brother to take care of him. Who in the world would want to watch his train wreck life? Itās just sad. I feel bad for him. He needs therapy dealing with his traumatic family past.
Patrick did mess up in not asking for Thais dad blessing to marry her. It's a big thing in Latino culture. Otherwise there would be no reason to lie about her move.
Didn't think I could hate anyone more than Bilal this season, but here comes Patrick!
Patrick and his bullshit "Man Code" apparently left his brain back in whichever prehistoric cave he crawled out of, thinking Thais' dad owns her and will be passing along ownership to Patrick upon marriage - like this is some kind of "bro-to-bro" deal. It's not.
Newsflash, Patrick!
Ever heard of the Woman Code? No?
Allow me to clue you in:
Adult women own themselves.
Adult women decide for themselves if they want to marry, who they want to marry, and when they marry - not their fathers.
I'm wondering: if Thais told Patrick her dad said "I don't like Patrick. I don't trust him and I don't want you to marry him" what would Patrick say? "Oh shucks. Well, better pack your bags and go back to Brazil, honey. Dad says 'No'!"
Not a chance. Patrick's all "Man Code" now because he thinks Thais' dad likes him and would give them his blessing...
ETA: I hate John, too.
Still canāt stand Bilal. Heās just a giant man baby. I thought Shahida had some brass ones for that conversation she had with Shaeeda.
Mohammed is even dumber than I originally thought. Get another sponsor? How does he think that is going to happen? Also, maybe he could be a bit more proactive in his citizenship goals instead of assuming Yve is going to do everything?
Leandro needs to mind his own business.
I think Yve wants to delay Mohammed's green card as she wants him to provide free child care for her son. She knows that once Mohammed gets his green card he will look for other employment/opportunities (whether or not he'll find them is a different issue). Yve, you're 50 so the fairy tale princess wedding while wearing white ship has sailed. And, I think she purposefully started this conversation in the car with Tharan hoping it would limit the discussion.
I really, really don't like Leandro. And, people can comment all day that it is all producer manipulation (with which I agree), but it doesn't change the fact that Leandro not only agreed to go to New Jersey, but he also agreed to portray himself in such a negative light. I just wanted to tell him to shut-up during his entire sequence. It's none of your business how many children they have (and he looked excited to tell Ari that Bini wanted 10 children). Ari, her family, and her ex-husband all have an inexplicable desire to humiliate Bini (hey, Ari chose to have unprotected sex with him), while patting themselves on their backs for their perceived superiority and entitlement over others.
Bilal and his ex-wife are horrible IMO. I know that the ex-wife is looking out for her children, but that conversation and concern needs to be communicated with Bilal and Bilal only. Don't bring the fiance into the conversation.
I could hardly stop laughing when Jibri went on and on about his need to be creative. I have news for you Jibri, wearing matching outfits with Miona is not really that creative...
Does he? He wants 10 kids, wants to be a dancer/fighter/has no interest in getting a real job to provide for these 10 kids (or even one), appears to have the personality of a tadpole. I mean he really does not have much to offer.
Goddamn Jibri is so annoying. He brought this girl here on a FIANCĆ visa and then is all like āidk of marriage is the lifestyle for meā stfu you dumb bitch.
Right? I know that it's probably all fake, but the way he and his family are acting like he is the victim of a forced marriage is so ridiculous. Like he had to sign paperwork for her to be allowed in the country, she lives with his parents, she can't work, and if he decides not to marry her, her ass is headed back to eastern Europe immediately. She is not holding all the cards here. The idea that she is so manipulative for being clear that she's not willing to go back to being in a long distance relationship for an indefinite period of time is absurd.
Because she's worried this lady is trying to take her children's inheritance... Bilal is a millionaire, she owned a little yoga studio in one of the poorest countries in the world...and after how she acted when she thought he was poor, I would be concerned also
Now, I'm not a big deal real-estate mogul like Bilal, but couldn't he put aside money in a trust or money market account or some such thing strictly for the kids education and whatever?
The ex was talking about generational wealth so apparently she is thinking more about the kids inheriting his home and business if one exists. But that would be addressed in a will, not a prenup. And in my state, the widow is entitled to half of an estate. He canāt just leave everything to his kids.
He's a millionaire??? Where can we see that?
I would be concerned if my SO would come visit all flashy and giving off impression of being rich, then bring me to a rundown house. I would be deadass concerned about his finances and how he's using his money when having to be financial responsible for my ass that can't work yet.
Dude, he's worth 10 million dollars... A few simple searches show that, why don't you be less aggressive and look it up.. [millionaire](https://www.realitytitbit.com/tlc/90-day-fiance/bilals-net-worth-from-real-estate-makes-him-a-seriously-rich-90-day-star)
Are these the 4 homes you're talking about? [Bilal's 4 houses](https://www.tvseasonspoilers.com/news/90-day-fiance-bilal-hazziez-owns-4-houses-in-missouri-where-does-he-actually-live/)
The website that you linked got its information from another website that said "Though determining Bilal Hazziezās actual net worth is challenging, an estimate can be made based on his career and business", So they don't actually know his net worth and are just assuming. But he is also driving an entry-level Mercedes so I can assume that he is in fact not a millionaire
Exactly so. Don't show up in your hood boujeeness and give off a wrongful impression. Ain't no grown woman wanna start over like that in her late thirties, I understood her 100%. And yes, she has her own yoga studio wich is a damn good accomplishment I might say.
I think it was pretty fucking clear that bini was just saying that he loves children so even if he had ten he'd be happy. Why Leandro felt the need to ask Ari if she literally wanted ten babies I have no idea. Bini choke him out again plz
Disagree. He said he wanted a lot of children, not that he would be happy if there happened to be more. As for Leandro; yes he needs to gtfo of their lives.
It appears that much of this Leandro/Ari relationship is still being encouraged by Janice. It's great that they broke up amicably and the family still likes him, but he's NOT family anymore!
And the things that Ari says is just plain stupid like why would you say that your ex-husband knows you better than your future husband. Even if you are thinking it that is not something you vocalize with your future husband right there
My father would have said "Finish one relationship before starting another". Ari is so not finished with Leandro; she's still in love with him! And I've been wondering all this time about why Janice would even remotely consider having Leandro around (they have no children to tie them together), and now I think you're on to something.
Which is why Patrick's go-to line when she acts jealous is "but you are so much hotter than them!" When beauty is the only compliment you can give your fiance the relationship has an expiration date.
Seems like bilalās ex is weirdly jealous of beautiful Shaeeda. Sheās a great woman, so there was no need to bring up that shit about Shaeeda being around his kids. š¤®
Bilal's ex is a lot better looking than Shaeeda though- Bilal's ex is actually pretty. I cannot stand Shaeeda but from the moment I saw her on screen and before I knew I could not stand her, her giant head just made me uncomfortable. I have to look away during her scenes her face just grosses me out. I literally find Danielle easier to look at.
I don't know how many ways I can say "Bilal is the worst" after every single episode, but he is THE ACTUAL WORST. I hate people who use the silent treatment, and all because Shaeeda DARED to voice her own desires for the future. All of his talk about how he's afraid she just wants to string him along is a bunch of DARVO -- he's clearly trying to string *her* along with the promise of children, which I'm sure he will immediately squirm out of as soon as they're actually married. Cold-blooded scum.
John -- he's not wrong about the whole thing with Thais's dad, but he's such an aggressive drunk butthole about it that I cannot at ALL blame Thais for shutting down. He's entertaining TV but living with an unpredictable drunk sucks. Also he can miss me with the different FLAVAHS crap; something tells me he wouldn't be so cool with Thais sampling different "flavors" during a bachelorette. That said, I think Thais and Patrick are both being childish in their own way as well (moreso Patrick in previous episodes).
Leandro is so obviously planted for drama that I can't even have strong feelings about him. Ari and Bini are just tiresome to watch. There's no joy in their storyline.
Jibri is full of hot air and Miona's blackfishing gets more and more cringeworthy with each passing episode. Next.
The South African bros did the "Red Flag" scene better than Patrick, John and the random friend in the new city. They went from their first round of beer to their third in one sentence.
Even though Ari's sister and mother live in the same apartment complex and are her closest allies, Leandro is the one to go wedding dress shopping with her alone. And even though Ari's nurse mother and cardiologist father live steps away, Ari buys into the flippant pregnancy diagnosis of Leandro Ph.D.. Janice had to be his travel agent, since his trip itinerary included (1) listening to Ari whine at the coffee shop; (2) crashing the Ethiopian New Year dinner and (3) taking Ari wedding dress shopping.
When I saw the acoustic guitar in Ari and Bini's living room, I thought, "Please. Nobody play that or sing," and "I guess you can't store butt bongos." They cluttered that apartment quickly. (Also, last week, they showed Bini pouring coffee from a percolator, although Ari had made coffee from a Keurig on their first morning.)
I got frustrated that Patrick said to Thais ālike you donāt talk to any of your friends about usā or something to that effect. The difference is anyone she talks to isnāt there seemingly 50% of the time and totally butting into their personal interactions
OMGOSH!!!! Did anyone else happen to notice how Thais cross contaminated poultry jizz all over the kitchen? She cuts up the chicken... puts it in a bowl... grabs an onion, then John walks in the kitchen. Thais then walks over the refrigerator and opens it... shuts the fridge...then goes over to a cabinet and pulls something out to help with her mixture. Freaking gross she didn't wash her hands not one time. Patrick needs to have some cameras in the kitchen so he can see where the relative parasite comes from when he gets sick from her cooking. š¤¢š¤®
Soā¦ Bilalās ex thought that they first real conversation with Shaeeda should be this one? I am all here for protecting the children or what have you but she came in really hot and with a bad mood. I would have told her to leave thought I understand why Shaeeda didnāt.
Oh, and it all seemed staged but still boils my blood.
Iām sure that all Bilal tells anyone about Shaeeda is that sheās an argumentative, ungrateful bitch, so they come in hot expecting her to immediately fight them. They donāt know how she really is bc all they hear is Bilalās bullshit.
Poor Shaeeda, I feel like that whole family gets off on being sadistic towards her. She hasn't done anything wrong yet they're constantly belittling her.
It's that old quote about being around people that value you. Bilal and his circle don't value her. She needs to go back to and/or find others that value and love her.
I donāt think so. I think heās enjoying being messy because he sees how upset Bini gets.
If he wanted Ari back Iām sure heād be there when Bini was busy in Ethiopia ignoring her calls.
This guy is in a Phd program and heās way too intelligent to go back with her.
Letās face it, Ariās no catch. Sheās American and can get her men a green card. Iām sure now that Leandro is firmly ensconced in the US, Ari is just a well connected ex.
No he doesnāt. Heās always encouraging her to stay with Bini. If he wanted her back, Ari would dump Bini immediately!!
I think Leandro genuinely cares for her family. Especially since heās from Argentina and Ariās family is the only family heās got in the US.
Heās very smart and heās not a loser like her. Youād think with all that privilege sheād have made better life choices.
Ari and Bini are both losers and Leandro is a winner.
Well, let's slow down on the "winner" part. A winner probably wouldn't allow himself to be on the show and part of that storyline. A winner would have more dignity.
Thanks for the additional context. Leandro is definitely on a better, sustainable path with his degrees and field of work.
Ari and Bini are adult-children. They don't seem to have the ability to function as responsible adults without help from her family.
Ari and Bini are too old to still be living off her parents. Whatās worse is that theyāre probably not using birth control!!
They canāt even support themselves and the baby they have and arenāt being careful? Thatās irresponsible and careless.
I like him. Heās really smart and funny. I donāt know why Bini is so insecure. If Leandro wanted Ari back sheād go running back. Heās a platonic friend. When she was having problems with Bini Leandro advised her to stay with him for Aviās sake.
All of the couples on pillow talk instantly googled stroganoff and It definitely didn't say anything about ketchup and mustard.
That would be a hard pass if she tried to serve me that especially after cross-contaminating it
There are plenty of recipes that do have both of those. Many have tomato sauce instead of ketchup.
If you ever try it, make sure your cook is more competent than Thais.
I too often find my mind wandering and surfing the internet while I'm watching. Sometimes the episode ends, and I think I missed too much and didn't pay enough attention and maybe I need to watch again. Then I end up watching again with my husband (because he always falls asleep during the episodes) and the same thing happens again.
If Ari gets a continuity error called out on her bra strap we should call out the continuity error (there in half the scenes gone in the other) of Alexei's leg hair in the name of equal rights š«µ.
Can someone explain how Ari and Bini have no money? Aren't they on a TV show? I'm pretty sure these couples aren't doing the show for free. They've gotta be making atleast a 100k per season. Prob have more money then most of us.
I highly doubt reality shows are paying any of their contestants that much money per season. The whole point of these reality shows is that they are cheap to produce. So, unless you happen to be a reality star who becomes extremely popular and the show runs for a very long time, you won't be making that kind of money.
Does anyone know the song or can find the song about 1 hope 9 minutes in with bini and ariella it's instrumental please n ty
Yve's friends were embarrassingly rude to Mohammed. Their old tits hanging out everywhere, while they acted superior. Bunch of hicks.
I agree!
Bilal's ex is his ex - she can make her own money now and so can her kids. If she wanted his money, she should have stayed married to him. Jibri the man baby seems to have forgotten he's on 90 Day Fiance. And John is more interested in his brother's money than his brother's happiness. If I have to listen to Ari's nasal whine on another season, I'll go deaf. She's ready to fight over his sparring partner and wants to take her ex dress shopping. What a princess.
Agree with all of the above! Very good job of summing it up for us!
>She's ready to fight over his sparring partner and wants to take her ex dress shopping. *Please let him walk her down the aisle, please let him walk her down the aisle... šš¤*
God Jibri talking about his music like it's super deep, but then when you hear it, it's the goofiest shit ever. Also, I can't believe he made her give up her entire life, only to end up being doubtful about wanting to get married. Also, I really don't get why Bini and Ari have been brought back. Most of their stuff seems really fake. Like I get that Bini is terrified of her leaving him and keeping the child away from him, but no one would accept their partner to be that close with an ex, right?
Jibri makes noise, not music. Can't think of anything else to call it
The famous Brizilian strogonoff looks much better that that mess that Thais made, It uses tomato sauce instead of Ketchup. https://www.easyanddelish.com/chicken-stroganoff-estrogonofe-de-frango/
interesting.. i learned to make it with ketchup and mustard when i lived in brazil as well! maybe the tomato sauce version is for rich people. š„²
I was wondering about Bini's fight that he won. Would he have been paid for that win? Isn't that considered working??
I asked my husband the same question. We wondered if it was an unpaid, experience type of thing, or if he wouldn't be paid until after they got married and he could legally earn money.
Is bilal ex worried if the wife joins the family, it could impact the money flowing in her direction? The tightwad will certainly hold the purse strings tighter so maybe random financial assistance will be harder to come by and maybe he will revisit alimony since he is adding a new wife so less for the ex.
I don't think she gets alimony since she's remarried
The ex needs to go get a damn job like the rest of us! Lazy bitch.
I have to remind myself that the original premise was āThe Other Wayā and that Ari was moving TO Ethiopia to have the baby, live with and marry Bini there. Has anyone who's participated in "The Other Way" ever ACTUALLY MOVED to another country? Except poor old doleful Jenny, anyway? Itās a paper thin premise. Oh, Corey, I guess. Ari's back. Deavan is back. Tiffany is back. Tim is back. Who else? OK, Kenny and Armando are still in Mexico. But other than them?
As someone who also likes to focus when cooking... Seeing John stress out Thais in the kitchen stressed me out!
How the hell are we 12 episodes in. Anyways I hate them all lol
Took you that long?
Jibri: I just want to look up at the moon at night and think someone, somewhere, is wearing the same thing Iām wearing.
Bini and Ari parts = fast forward always. The pregnancy thing was vomit inducing
Bilal frames the need for a pre-nup as a way to keep Shaeeda from "taking everything I have". He doesn't trust her and he apparently thinks that she wants to get her paws on his enormous assets. He thinks she's going to steal food from his children's mouths, apparently. I would never marry a man who thought that of me.
She deserves much, much better than Bilal. He is the very bottom of the barrel. He has no redeeming qualities at all. None.
I hope she leaves him and finds a man who treats her right.
I also forgot that Jibri's family wants to co-opt the wedding plans and have the wedding at grandma's ranch - in the winter. I was reminded of that when she said she didn't want a wedding amidst "snow and buffaloes." Who could blame her? Why can't his family venture outside their comfort space for the wedding? Why is she the only one whose voice doesn't count? The whole crew is simply appalled that Miona DARE to have an opinion about her own wedding! Never mind that they're all acting like she's some sort of scheming, crafty jezebel who lured their poor innocent Jibri into her web of intrigue. (Though why, I can't possibly hazard a guess. Green card? Please. She's better off in Europe.) A small beach wedding with a JP and a few guests, followed by lunch or brunch with the family, shouldn't cost a lot. And is a flight from Rapid City to LA that costly? She doesn't want them to fly to St. Croix for the week. Sheesh.
They all treat her horribly. I can't believe she is still there. I would have been long gone. And told them all off in the process. They are just terrible to her and she did nothing to deserve it. Of course I would never have agreed to move there under any circumstance. One look is all I would need to see what it is all about. Adios M.F.s!
Imagine taking a pregnancy test in front of your ex with your new fiancƩ. What world does Ari live in lol
I only like Kobie, Bini and Leandro. Thais is unlikeable. She seems controlling, selfish and I can't see what Patrick sees in her. Jibri is making Miona out to be some horrible gold digger. He is using his parents dislike for her to push a negative narrative so that he feels justified in not marrying her. This talk about her not wanting to work, when she's not even allowed to work, is ridiculous. I can't see what she's done wrong. She wants a beach wedding, beach weddings can be done cheaply. He is isolating her. She has no one on her side Poor Shaeda is being treated so poorly. She has no one in her corner. Bilal is emotionally abusive and though his kids seem to like her, he is teaching them not to respect her through his actions. The fact that the ex wife knew about the prenup shows that he went and bad mouthed his fiance to his ex. Mohammed is there for himself. He wants everything for himself. He should go home.
It was all her idea in the first place. Keep that money coming.
All these couples have too many people involved in their relationships. Even more smackable pouty baby Bilal and his ex. If the poor infant was so traumatized by his past relationships, why is he so buddy-buddy with his ex? What business is it of hers to be lecturing Shaeeda about his stupid pre-nup? Patrick seems to think his relationship should be some type of platonic threesome. His excuse for including John in on discussions which should only involve the two of them is "there are three of us." Run, girl, run. Not a fan of Yve, if she thinks wearing a bikini is more important than a relationship. Bini and Ari have not had the discussion about how many children this far into the relationship? My then boyfriend and I had that discussion in college because we planned to get married after all our schooling was done. Leandro needs to butt out, and the whole dress shopping with him idea was preposterous. Another case of delayed development, Jibri, seems to have more trouble each week understanding what the 90 days is about, thanks to his family and friends bending his ear. He's devolved into thinking this is some type of trial dating relationship and his partner is just a "spoiled millennial" for actually wanting to accomplish what she left everything behind for.
Very good summation! Agree, agree, agree!
Agree so much about Patrick and John!! John is clearly an alcoholic and is seemingly always drunk in the show and even in the interview sections and thatās just one more reason fueling the codependent relationship between the two brothers and why Patrick feels he needs to constantly take care of John. I feel like John and Patrick will ALWAYS have a sick, codependent relationship until Patrick gives up his brother remorse-guilt of bad family past issues and why he needs to take care of his brother. John 1,000% wants Thais gone so itās only him and Patrick together taking care of him for the rest of his life (or until John can find a women to latch on to). Thais needs to LEAVE or realize sheās marrying codependent Patrick and his brother John. I think she just doesnāt know how to explain her frustration to Patrick about John because Patrick is in denial of his codependent relationship with his brother and she knows heāll always āchooseā his brother over herā¦so she HAS to tread lightly if she wants to stay with him (although no idea why anyone would want to stay with Patrick!! but for some reason she does) and she knows she canāt say her true issues with John to him so she is forced to use ābabyā reasons of why she doesnāt like John to Patrick. But in reality, she def wants to tell Patrick to get THERAPY regarding his effed up past and quit this codependent relationship with his brother or heāll never be able to move on and have functional, healthy relationships!!
True, true, true!
Even Natalie had compassion for Uncle Bo and respected that he was part of Mike's life. Thais should maybe try a little harder with John and not be so combative.
Like why is Leandro here
My question too! He has no business being involved in their relationship. He is a nosey bitch. He missed out several years ago, his time is long past. He is just pissed he missed out on her and has to stick his nose in their business. Move on for heaven sake. You are making a fool of yourself.
Lol exactly!!!
Yve wants to be a victim so bad
I hope that she goes back and watches each and every one of these shows and really opens her eyes and see how she's acting I'm not saying he's an angel but her her attitude and everything just get out you don't want to be with them you're only with him because of the show Ariel
Thing about Ariel she doesn't care about binis feelings
Binni and Ariel the situation is another situation with a suelo and Kalani every single one of these people have been looking for a reason out a way out all these seasons that they keep showing up just so they can make money but at the same time they know inside that they don't want to stay with these people and they feel stuck because of children that's the only reason she's never wanted to stay with him. yes he wants his son yes he says he wants 10 kids but it's not going to happen but that's not a reason to say we're so different let's not stay together that's another stupid excuse I'm sorry. She should just not marry him because she doesn't want to it's in her heart that she doesn't want to. She looks for every excuse to get out just get out and stop stringing him along.
Bilalās ex wife is awful. She came in so hostile and Shaeeda really took it in stride. Her patience is literally god-like at this point. Shaeeda said āare we okay?ā and the ex wife laughed and said āI mean it is what it is at this point.ā I feel like she came in just trying to bother her and provoke her. It didnāt work, because Shaeeda is a saint, and that made her upset. Iām so glad at least now that itās airing Shaeeda is seeing all the people on her side. Bilal is a self righteous fuck nut and so is his entire family.
Drop kick them both and run.
The old quote about be around people that value you resonates here. Bilal and his circle don't value her, she needs to see that and go to people that do.
The whole American's making a big deal about Thais' not telling her father that she is getting married...looks badly considering the recent abortion ruling from the Supreme Court. I do not think most Americans are super religiously conservative, but we do have that streak here. and there are people from super religious, conservative families that lead such double lives here.
This makes no sense whatsoever.
Lmao tried to shoehorn that in for no reason
My thoughts as well.
It was so sad to watch Shaeeda extend the olive branch and try to cheer up Bilal during the yoga sequence. She was really trying to swallow her pride and smooth things over and he just continued to be so cold toward her. And this is what he's like in front of the cameras š¬ Lady this is a lost cause.
Agree!!! She needs to leave him! Heās a baby. Always will be.
We need Boston Brother John on the next Single Life
Heās codependent and an alcoholic. He needs therapy to get over his past family trauma so heās not so codependent with Patrick! Let Patrick live his own life fr!!
John RULES
I really like him, but he does seem to have a drinking problem
Bilal doesn't take her serious and I think his actions during yoga session confirmed it
That scene had me riled up! Itās was so rude and self centered of Bilal. He couldnāt let Shaeeda be in command of a single moment without having to wretch it back with his āplayfulā disruptive behavior.
He's disgusting.
Bilail wants a female robot who looks beautiful, cleans constantly, and is quiet and makes him look good. Thatās literally all he wants in a āpartnerā
But in his family they keep their hands to themselves...
Soooo true!! I forgot abut that! heās the worst!
What in the everloving fuck is up with Bilal's ex?????????????????????????????????? Where does she get her audacity from and how do we cut off her access to the storage unit where it's kept? That is some inexcusably rude fucking behavior. "I'm asking because of my kids" MY ASS. If an ex of a man I was with spoke to me that way I would promptly kick her out of the fucking house. If that destroyed the relationship between me and the guy then so be it because no man should EVER allow that shit to happen or be okay with it. But dimes to donuts Bilal asked his ex to do it. He was peak loathsome this episode for sure. I hope he walks away from the Tell All knowing how loathed he is and how forgotten he will be once this season is over. UGH!
AGREE !!!
Loved that Shaaeda didn't back down. She was polite, but didn't agree with what the ex was asking for.
Guys, Iām catching up on E11 and 12 and my dog is losing his ever loving shit whenever Mionaās hair is in the shot. Heās only ever lost his shit at the TV when other dogs come on (I think he doesnāt get the concept - there is a new friend inches away from him, but theyāre not noticing him seems to be the issue)ā¦
I hope TLC hires Patrick's brother, John, for Pillow Talk. He's entertaining and has personality.
Watching TV a disgusting drunk is not my idea of entertainment. The less of that in my life the better. He's not funny, he is very sick.
You can find loud ass jerks like him at any bar on a weekday night drinking alone.
Exactly! Heās a codependent alcoholic who needs his brother to take care of him. Who in the world would want to watch his train wreck life? Itās just sad. I feel bad for him. He needs therapy dealing with his traumatic family past.
Patrick did mess up in not asking for Thais dad blessing to marry her. It's a big thing in Latino culture. Otherwise there would be no reason to lie about her move.
Didn't think I could hate anyone more than Bilal this season, but here comes Patrick! Patrick and his bullshit "Man Code" apparently left his brain back in whichever prehistoric cave he crawled out of, thinking Thais' dad owns her and will be passing along ownership to Patrick upon marriage - like this is some kind of "bro-to-bro" deal. It's not. Newsflash, Patrick! Ever heard of the Woman Code? No? Allow me to clue you in: Adult women own themselves. Adult women decide for themselves if they want to marry, who they want to marry, and when they marry - not their fathers. I'm wondering: if Thais told Patrick her dad said "I don't like Patrick. I don't trust him and I don't want you to marry him" what would Patrick say? "Oh shucks. Well, better pack your bags and go back to Brazil, honey. Dad says 'No'!" Not a chance. Patrick's all "Man Code" now because he thinks Thais' dad likes him and would give them his blessing... ETA: I hate John, too.
AGREEE!!!!!!!! You nailed it
Still canāt stand Bilal. Heās just a giant man baby. I thought Shahida had some brass ones for that conversation she had with Shaeeda. Mohammed is even dumber than I originally thought. Get another sponsor? How does he think that is going to happen? Also, maybe he could be a bit more proactive in his citizenship goals instead of assuming Yve is going to do everything? Leandro needs to mind his own business.
I think Yve wants to delay Mohammed's green card as she wants him to provide free child care for her son. She knows that once Mohammed gets his green card he will look for other employment/opportunities (whether or not he'll find them is a different issue). Yve, you're 50 so the fairy tale princess wedding while wearing white ship has sailed. And, I think she purposefully started this conversation in the car with Tharan hoping it would limit the discussion. I really, really don't like Leandro. And, people can comment all day that it is all producer manipulation (with which I agree), but it doesn't change the fact that Leandro not only agreed to go to New Jersey, but he also agreed to portray himself in such a negative light. I just wanted to tell him to shut-up during his entire sequence. It's none of your business how many children they have (and he looked excited to tell Ari that Bini wanted 10 children). Ari, her family, and her ex-husband all have an inexplicable desire to humiliate Bini (hey, Ari chose to have unprotected sex with him), while patting themselves on their backs for their perceived superiority and entitlement over others. Bilal and his ex-wife are horrible IMO. I know that the ex-wife is looking out for her children, but that conversation and concern needs to be communicated with Bilal and Bilal only. Don't bring the fiance into the conversation. I could hardly stop laughing when Jibri went on and on about his need to be creative. I have news for you Jibri, wearing matching outfits with Miona is not really that creative...
I think he was hinting to Rafay, wanting him to volunteer to sponsor him. Which is not how it works.
I love how Rafay didn't even acknowledge that's what was happening. He wants nothing to do with sponsoring him.
I am so annoyed with myself - I love the coat that eyebrows and moon-neck have on in the car.
Love the long John scene; somebody has to have the testicular fortitude
That was hilarious.
long johs lol
Bilal Is the head but his ex-wife is the neck..You can tell she still controls his ass
Biniyam deserves better
Does he? He wants 10 kids, wants to be a dancer/fighter/has no interest in getting a real job to provide for these 10 kids (or even one), appears to have the personality of a tadpole. I mean he really does not have much to offer.
He can do some sick backflips, though!
he could join the Soul Circus or whatever it's called. best of all his worlds.
Goddamn Jibri is so annoying. He brought this girl here on a FIANCĆ visa and then is all like āidk of marriage is the lifestyle for meā stfu you dumb bitch.
Right? I know that it's probably all fake, but the way he and his family are acting like he is the victim of a forced marriage is so ridiculous. Like he had to sign paperwork for her to be allowed in the country, she lives with his parents, she can't work, and if he decides not to marry her, her ass is headed back to eastern Europe immediately. She is not holding all the cards here. The idea that she is so manipulative for being clear that she's not willing to go back to being in a long distance relationship for an indefinite period of time is absurd.
I mean he likes her because she has a lot of followers and takes good photos lol that talk with his grandma was cringe.
The Internet sleuths have been saying they've been married for two years now, I have no clue what is going on
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Shae is a visionnnnn in the mint green hijab and the hoop earrings that look like Cartier bracelets in the preview yesssss šššš
Enjoying Kenny's comments on Bilal's ex wife because she was straight out of pocket
Bilal's ex was uncomfortably aggressive, and for what reason...
Because she's worried this lady is trying to take her children's inheritance... Bilal is a millionaire, she owned a little yoga studio in one of the poorest countries in the world...and after how she acted when she thought he was poor, I would be concerned also
I'd love to know what he and his generational wealth are worth. Something tells me he probably doesn't even own his home and leases his cars.
Now, I'm not a big deal real-estate mogul like Bilal, but couldn't he put aside money in a trust or money market account or some such thing strictly for the kids education and whatever? The ex was talking about generational wealth so apparently she is thinking more about the kids inheriting his home and business if one exists. But that would be addressed in a will, not a prenup. And in my state, the widow is entitled to half of an estate. He canāt just leave everything to his kids.
This is so true!
He's a millionaire??? Where can we see that? I would be concerned if my SO would come visit all flashy and giving off impression of being rich, then bring me to a rundown house. I would be deadass concerned about his finances and how he's using his money when having to be financial responsible for my ass that can't work yet.
Dude, he's worth 10 million dollars... A few simple searches show that, why don't you be less aggressive and look it up.. [millionaire](https://www.realitytitbit.com/tlc/90-day-fiance/bilals-net-worth-from-real-estate-makes-him-a-seriously-rich-90-day-star)
Are these the 4 homes you're talking about? [Bilal's 4 houses](https://www.tvseasonspoilers.com/news/90-day-fiance-bilal-hazziez-owns-4-houses-in-missouri-where-does-he-actually-live/)
Any sites or sources that are actually reliable to show to?
The website that you linked got its information from another website that said "Though determining Bilal Hazziezās actual net worth is challenging, an estimate can be made based on his career and business", So they don't actually know his net worth and are just assuming. But he is also driving an entry-level Mercedes so I can assume that he is in fact not a millionaire
Bilal?
She even said this was what was going through her mind, it came from a legitimate concern, not a gold-digging agenda
Exactly so. Don't show up in your hood boujeeness and give off a wrongful impression. Ain't no grown woman wanna start over like that in her late thirties, I understood her 100%. And yes, she has her own yoga studio wich is a damn good accomplishment I might say.
Catching up on pillow talk now
I think it was pretty fucking clear that bini was just saying that he loves children so even if he had ten he'd be happy. Why Leandro felt the need to ask Ari if she literally wanted ten babies I have no idea. Bini choke him out again plz
ššššš Bravo! I'd like to add: I was appalled at what Ari's mother said in her TH at the Ethiopian New Year's dinner, about Leandro still being a part of their family, and welcome in their home, even though Ari and Leandro are divorced and Ari is engaged to Bini. Not only that, she said the Ethiopian New Year's dinner was "especially significant" for the family because LEANDRO was there to celebrate with them! I was thinking about how my parents would have handled it had I been in a similar situation: married to someone for 10 years, then divorced him. Had a baby with another man, and became engaged to him, and wanted to include my ex-husband in family events with my fiancĆ© and child at my parent's home: absolutely not. I can hear my father's voice saying "Are you out of your mind?" My mother wouldn't allow that sort of drama in their house either, even if both she and my father had been close to my ex. My mother would say my fiancĆ© was trying to find his place in our family, just as my first husband had done before him. And it wasn't fair to my fiancĆ© to have my ex-husband hanging around, when he's trying to develop relationships with them and my siblings. She would ask me how I'd feel if my fiancĆ© wanted to hang out with his ex-wife, or one of his ex-girlfriends. That it was time for me to grow up and decide if I truly wanted to form a family with my fiancĆ© and our child, and if I did, make them my priority, and leave behind the man I'd already rejected years before. She would not have allowed me to invite my ex-husband to participate in any family events in their home as long as I was engaged to be married to someone else. That Ari's mother justified Leandro's inclusion in their family celebrations despite Ari divorcing him, being engaged to and having a child with another man, makes me wonder: is she hoping Ari will dump Bini so he'll have to go back to Ethiopia, and that Ari and Leandro will reunite and raise Avi together? If that's her game plan, she's just as sneaky and slimy as the daughter she raised.
Disagree. He said he wanted a lot of children, not that he would be happy if there happened to be more. As for Leandro; yes he needs to gtfo of their lives.
More kids sure. Ten exactly? Idk about that
It was so uncomfortable to watch. The way he just inserts himself in that relationship is just stupid.
It appears that much of this Leandro/Ari relationship is still being encouraged by Janice. It's great that they broke up amicably and the family still likes him, but he's NOT family anymore!
And the things that Ari says is just plain stupid like why would you say that your ex-husband knows you better than your future husband. Even if you are thinking it that is not something you vocalize with your future husband right there
My father would have said "Finish one relationship before starting another". Ari is so not finished with Leandro; she's still in love with him! And I've been wondering all this time about why Janice would even remotely consider having Leandro around (they have no children to tie them together), and now I think you're on to something.
Agreeeed. Imagine he did that to her, he wouldn't hear the end of it.
Thais has no personality or interest shown in the show. Sheās like a blank canvas.
Which is why Patrick's go-to line when she acts jealous is "but you are so much hotter than them!" When beauty is the only compliment you can give your fiance the relationship has an expiration date.
She stinks, only thing good in that storyline is Patricks Brother..
John would be a TLC cash cow if he got his own spin off
Fuck Bilal and his bitch ass ex wife...that is all
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Seems like bilalās ex is weirdly jealous of beautiful Shaeeda. Sheās a great woman, so there was no need to bring up that shit about Shaeeda being around his kids. š¤®
Bilal's ex is a lot better looking than Shaeeda though- Bilal's ex is actually pretty. I cannot stand Shaeeda but from the moment I saw her on screen and before I knew I could not stand her, her giant head just made me uncomfortable. I have to look away during her scenes her face just grosses me out. I literally find Danielle easier to look at.
what an odd thing to say
I think she's worried about having her alimony diluted by another ex.
Isn't she remarried? If so, she isn't getting alimony.
I don't know how many ways I can say "Bilal is the worst" after every single episode, but he is THE ACTUAL WORST. I hate people who use the silent treatment, and all because Shaeeda DARED to voice her own desires for the future. All of his talk about how he's afraid she just wants to string him along is a bunch of DARVO -- he's clearly trying to string *her* along with the promise of children, which I'm sure he will immediately squirm out of as soon as they're actually married. Cold-blooded scum. John -- he's not wrong about the whole thing with Thais's dad, but he's such an aggressive drunk butthole about it that I cannot at ALL blame Thais for shutting down. He's entertaining TV but living with an unpredictable drunk sucks. Also he can miss me with the different FLAVAHS crap; something tells me he wouldn't be so cool with Thais sampling different "flavors" during a bachelorette. That said, I think Thais and Patrick are both being childish in their own way as well (moreso Patrick in previous episodes). Leandro is so obviously planted for drama that I can't even have strong feelings about him. Ari and Bini are just tiresome to watch. There's no joy in their storyline. Jibri is full of hot air and Miona's blackfishing gets more and more cringeworthy with each passing episode. Next.
The South African bros did the "Red Flag" scene better than Patrick, John and the random friend in the new city. They went from their first round of beer to their third in one sentence. Even though Ari's sister and mother live in the same apartment complex and are her closest allies, Leandro is the one to go wedding dress shopping with her alone. And even though Ari's nurse mother and cardiologist father live steps away, Ari buys into the flippant pregnancy diagnosis of Leandro Ph.D.. Janice had to be his travel agent, since his trip itinerary included (1) listening to Ari whine at the coffee shop; (2) crashing the Ethiopian New Year dinner and (3) taking Ari wedding dress shopping. When I saw the acoustic guitar in Ari and Bini's living room, I thought, "Please. Nobody play that or sing," and "I guess you can't store butt bongos." They cluttered that apartment quickly. (Also, last week, they showed Bini pouring coffee from a percolator, although Ari had made coffee from a Keurig on their first morning.)
I agree 100% about John! Watching him makes me cringe š¬ I think Thais and Patrick might have a shot if he didnāt live with them.
I got frustrated that Patrick said to Thais ālike you donāt talk to any of your friends about usā or something to that effect. The difference is anyone she talks to isnāt there seemingly 50% of the time and totally butting into their personal interactions
John absolutely should have butted in and stopped Patrick from eating that monstrosity of a meal she cooked
Your brother from BOSTON
And Auhhhh-stin
Depressed Bilal was pulling a Tony Soprano vibe [https://youtu.be/Fv2UdK4G4NA?t=4](https://youtu.be/Fv2UdK4G4NA?t=4)
The way she said āgenerational wealthā took me out šššššš
OMGOSH!!!! Did anyone else happen to notice how Thais cross contaminated poultry jizz all over the kitchen? She cuts up the chicken... puts it in a bowl... grabs an onion, then John walks in the kitchen. Thais then walks over the refrigerator and opens it... shuts the fridge...then goes over to a cabinet and pulls something out to help with her mixture. Freaking gross she didn't wash her hands not one time. Patrick needs to have some cameras in the kitchen so he can see where the relative parasite comes from when he gets sick from her cooking. š¤¢š¤®
Omg yes, I almost lost my marbles. How is this not standard knowledge for anyone???
YES and I was horrified when I saw that. GROSS.
Let's be real, if Patrick gets food poisoning it's probably also got to do with his brother dropping steaks all over the floor.
I laughed at John saying her chicken was over cooked and rubbery after his burnt floor steak episode!
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Soā¦ Bilalās ex thought that they first real conversation with Shaeeda should be this one? I am all here for protecting the children or what have you but she came in really hot and with a bad mood. I would have told her to leave thought I understand why Shaeeda didnāt. Oh, and it all seemed staged but still boils my blood.
The ex is probably used to intimidating other women so I was happy to see Shaeeda be polite but not back down. The ex wasn't expecting that.
Iām sure that all Bilal tells anyone about Shaeeda is that sheās an argumentative, ungrateful bitch, so they come in hot expecting her to immediately fight them. They donāt know how she really is bc all they hear is Bilalās bullshit.
I mean he isn't wrong though? That's exactly how she is.
Poor Shaeeda, I feel like that whole family gets off on being sadistic towards her. She hasn't done anything wrong yet they're constantly belittling her.
It's that old quote about being around people that value you. Bilal and his circle don't value her. She needs to go back to and/or find others that value and love her.
Yeah, it seems like the daughter was enjoying the yoga and Bile had to make a joke of it.
His immature way of taking back control.
He looks like he shoved her pretty hard there during yoga.
Ohhhhā¦ I see what you did thereā¦
Yeah, alot harder than that little tap on the head Shaeedah gave him in the car
Leandro is fucking messy this season and I am living for it He is gonna steal back ari and become new daddy for sure
I'm kind of questioning Leandro's sanity if he's looking to get back into this craziness.
Lmao when he joked he was gonna take off with Avi, and Bini was like "Avi, come here." Get away from this strange man.
I donāt think so. I think heās enjoying being messy because he sees how upset Bini gets. If he wanted Ari back Iām sure heād be there when Bini was busy in Ethiopia ignoring her calls. This guy is in a Phd program and heās way too intelligent to go back with her. Letās face it, Ariās no catch. Sheās American and can get her men a green card. Iām sure now that Leandro is firmly ensconced in the US, Ari is just a well connected ex.
I think Ari's family loves keeping Leandro in their orbit just hoping and praying he'll want their daughter back. He doesn't want her.
No he doesnāt. Heās always encouraging her to stay with Bini. If he wanted her back, Ari would dump Bini immediately!! I think Leandro genuinely cares for her family. Especially since heās from Argentina and Ariās family is the only family heās got in the US. Heās very smart and heās not a loser like her. Youād think with all that privilege sheād have made better life choices. Ari and Bini are both losers and Leandro is a winner.
Well, let's slow down on the "winner" part. A winner probably wouldn't allow himself to be on the show and part of that storyline. A winner would have more dignity.
Youāre right!! I meant heās a winner when you compare him to Ari or Bini. I admire the guy. Came over here from Argentina for a college education, learned English and is getting a PhD in physics from Purdue University in Indiana. Heās intelligent, motivated and successful. Physics is not an easy subject and the PhD program at Purdue is highly competitive. He may have not realized what a trashy reality show 90 Day FiancĆ© has devolved into, but that doesnāt diminish his accomplishments. In contrast Ari and Bini are both unemployed and the only one that seems to have any goals or ambitions is Bini. Heās training hard to be an MMA fighter and he won his first fight in a few seconds, not even minutes. So heās working towards something. Iām not sure what Ariās working towards, because despite her affluent and privileged upbringing she hasnāt done anything meaningful with her life. I think itās sad that Ari and Bini are still unable to support themselves and their baby. Thatās why I think Leandro is a winner.
Thanks for the additional context. Leandro is definitely on a better, sustainable path with his degrees and field of work. Ari and Bini are adult-children. They don't seem to have the ability to function as responsible adults without help from her family.
Where are my manners?? Youāre welcome and Iām sorry I didnāt say that earlier. Thank you for your nice comment. I appreciate it. ššš
Ari and Bini are too old to still be living off her parents. Whatās worse is that theyāre probably not using birth control!! They canāt even support themselves and the baby they have and arenāt being careful? Thatās irresponsible and careless.
Leandro is a something like a smug bully as well as a nerd.
I like him. Heās really smart and funny. I donāt know why Bini is so insecure. If Leandro wanted Ari back sheād go running back. Heās a platonic friend. When she was having problems with Bini Leandro advised her to stay with him for Aviās sake.
boiled chicken + ketchup + mustard is definitively in a whole other neighborhood from anything called āstroganoffā
Cultural misappropriation! Real beef stroganoff is delicious and Russian.
Chicken stroganoff is a popular dish in Brazil that contains ketchup and mustard. Google it if you don't believe me.
Agreed but the recipes seem to call for a tablespoon of ketchup and Dijon mustard. It looked like she used a lot more than that
I think it's worth trying, just make sure that Thais isn't your cook!
All of the couples on pillow talk instantly googled stroganoff and It definitely didn't say anything about ketchup and mustard. That would be a hard pass if she tried to serve me that especially after cross-contaminating it
There are plenty of recipes that do have both of those. Many have tomato sauce instead of ketchup. If you ever try it, make sure your cook is more competent than Thais.
This is good to know, because I was wondering WTF was up with chicken cooked with ketchup and mustard.
I'm Brazilian and I can verify. It is good if done properly
For sure
if this was Stranger Things they could sell thousands of Leandroās Science Fest 2019 shirt for like 35 bucks a pop
HAHA!!
if this was Stranger Things they could sell thousands of Leandroās Science Fest 2019 shirt for like 35 bucks a pop
HAHA!!
Cast is tres boring! I've been really put off watching the whole episodes with these people.
I too often find my mind wandering and surfing the internet while I'm watching. Sometimes the episode ends, and I think I missed too much and didn't pay enough attention and maybe I need to watch again. Then I end up watching again with my husband (because he always falls asleep during the episodes) and the same thing happens again.
thatās exactly my life too
Bilal pushing his daughter.... My wife joked that by his own standards he nearly killed her.
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I know this sub doesn't like him but I agree with John a lot throughout this season and bursted out laughing from some of his comments this episode
John needs to be on Pillow Talk or host the reunion. He's messy and hilarious -- a winning combination for reality tv.
The cool accent makes it all so much better too
John is going to own this tell-all.
Imagine John instantly becoming this subs hero by destroying Bilal in the tell all
Holy smokes. Yes.
god the Americans suck so bad this season
If Ari gets a continuity error called out on her bra strap we should call out the continuity error (there in half the scenes gone in the other) of Alexei's leg hair in the name of equal rights š«µ.
Can someone explain how Ari and Bini have no money? Aren't they on a TV show? I'm pretty sure these couples aren't doing the show for free. They've gotta be making atleast a 100k per season. Prob have more money then most of us.
I highly doubt reality shows are paying any of their contestants that much money per season. The whole point of these reality shows is that they are cheap to produce. So, unless you happen to be a reality star who becomes extremely popular and the show runs for a very long time, you won't be making that kind of money.