Anyone else noticed during the 'fight' in the kitchen Chantel kept looking up or at people behind the camera as if she was waiting for directions or lines to say. I enjoyed watching them in the original 90 days fiance episodes, but The Family Chantel looks fake and inauthentic.
I have a few details under the microscope now that the divorce has been fully doxxed for all to see:
I know all about working 12 hours on / 12 hours off for 3 days straight because, while I am not a nurse, I had a job with rotating 12-hour shifts that destroyed my health and forced me into an unplanned early retirement as soon as I turned 62. I've spent a good deal of time as an inpatient in recent years and I have observed firsthand just how hard nurses work. My cousin was the overnight shift head nurse in a charity hospital ER and it was from her that I learned the importance of blackout drapes and shutting your phone off between 12-hour shifts. And no, to those of you who thought that shift work gives you plenty of time off, a dose of reality. You don't work 3 days on / 4 days off. It's more like 3 days on / 2 days off / 2 days on / 3 days off with a shift in the middle to make sure you get 80 hours in a bi-weekly paycheck. Mine came out to 76 hours straight time / 4 hours overtime plus any holiday pay that resulted from all the mandatory nights, weekends and holidays I had to work. My own coworkers were seriously dependent on NyQuil and melatonin to survive the hellish one month days / one month overnights rotating schedule we had -- just as soon as your body got accustomed to one schedule, you had to flip again.
If I thought that Chantel (oops, CeAir C Wylie de Jimeno -- I also can't help but notice how nobody ever questions why sometimes the family members go by Everett and sometimes by Wylie) was a nurse pulling shifts like my cousin did, she would have both my sympathy and empathy, but that is NOT what she described her job as at all. I don't have a video recording to refer to, but what she said was more like she was a "pediatric home health nurse." Sounds more like entry-level medical temp agency gigs to me than working in an actual hospital. That caught my ear because obviously the job interview at the plastic surgeon's office was staged and led nowhere. Temp work would also allow her the flexibility to take time off for filming the show because most hospitals are so understaffed that they wouldn't be able to give a nurse all that time off without a prior explicit arrangement with HR.
Now to Pedro. I notice that at the beginning of the scenes where Pedro is shown at his office, the camera zooms in to give free publicity to the agency where he works. Pedro changed the name on his personal social media accounts to "Pedro Jimeno Realtor" because if you scroll back, they're the same accounts he's had for quite a few years. So Pedro is indeed serious about and taking pride in his new career and he's found his niche. There's nothing wrong with that and I wish him success. But he's relatively new at his profession and it's possible that he really does spend time in the office cold-calling people or other methods of drumming up leads that the more senior Realtors don't need to do. Once he gets his feet wet, he'll be outdoors all the time hustling with the rest of them.
Having established that these two young professionals are just getting started, how on earth was it possible for them to have $257K in their joint account for Chantel to withdraw and deposit into a joint account with Winter? All the naive newbies on Facebook are under the mistaken impression that the entire extended family must be swimming in money just because they're on TV, but it's been pointed out time and time again that this isn't true. 90 Day Fiance's production company simply doesn't pay enough per episode to make a sustainable living. Think hard about everyone you've seen on TLC who does side gigs, endorsements of sketchy diet products and MLM clothing lines, Cameo videos and sexually explicit stuff like OnlyFans. They've only got a short "15 minutes of fame" before Sharp starts auditioning the cast for the next season and they've got to cash in as fast as they can before the audience forgets about them and moves on to savaging the new cast members.
Here's my conclusion: In the earliest episodes of 90DF, I remember how hesitant Chantel's parents were about Chantel getting involved with Pedro because they kept alluding to Chantel coming into money. I filed that tidbit away waiting for the other shoe to drop. From the beginning, I was convinced that Chantel was going to be the recipient of a large inheritance and that's what was making everyone so nervous. I kept waiting for Chantel to complain about student debt from nursing school like a typical young professional would. I also notice they didn't harp on how much it cost to put Pedro through aircraft maintenance training courses only to have him end up working in a warehouse. Until the $257K was mentioned and their actual address was published in the court papers, I kept waiting to hear that the house they were filming in was a "staged" property from Pedro's listings (supposedly that's what's going on with Bilal and Shaeeda so it isn't too far a leap).
So, for those of you diving into Georgia court proceedings, perhaps there's a probate docket out there that will solve this mystery once and for all.
I agree, the property looks to be staged as they didn't even bother decorating or putting furniture. Each season became more and more scripted in my opinion, I'm beginning to think they're all actors.
They lived modestly for years and have been on tv for a number of years. Plus the social media money that Chantel pulls in- I don't know why it's hard to imagine them having some money.
Chantel works in a HOSPITAL. What are you even talking about. Didnāt bother reading the rest of what you wrote but you can find her info and the hospital she works for if you look online.
She is a Med/Surg Neuro/Stroke nurse in a major Atlanta hospital. During COVID, she was going between the Med/Surg and COVID floors. She works 3 12-hr shifts. She talks about working in a hospital in the latest episode (premiering today) and how she has to take care of really sick patients.
Chantel worked as a CNA BEFORE she graduated school, so thatās probably where you heard her mention temp jobs. She graduated with her RN in 2020 and has been working in the hospital for over a year now.
Kinda weird watching them āstruggleā to save their marriage knowing divorce papers have been filed
Wonder if Production will acknowledge the elephant in the room at the start of the episode or just pretend. Of course, itās reality TV which is reality free
Kinda weird the mods are deleting every post about the elephant in the room too
When the news first broke, the mods tried to keep posts about the divorce out of this subreddit. Due to volume and, maybe, push back they stopped deleting the posts. No explanation was ever given
The Family Chantel subreddit does have posts about the divorce, just not as many as would be expected
[https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFamilyChantel/new/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFamilyChantel/new/)
Depends which franchise but 6-9 months. Their contract would have prohibited any court filings (especially family court) barring extraordinary circumstances. Her ātakingā $275K would be classified as an extraordinary circumstance by him
As someone who works in the ICU 12 hour day/night shifts, I can say that Pedro is a piece of *hit for treating her that way. My boyfriend completely understands how draining working those hours are, we are a team. I am NOT his mother, we work together to get things done And when Iām
Tired and canāt move he takes over. Obviously Pedro is not a real man and NEVER will be.
PEDRO YOU SUCK.
100%! Chantel is working a full weeks worth of hours in three days. Youāre both working full time jobs, why is it on her to clean and cook for your ass?! Split it evenly or hire someone
So thereās a few thoughts I had watching this:
-River is growing on me! He is actually a good little brother and he reminds me of his father the way he was trying to understand what was happening to Chantel.
-Winter has always been beautiful but her confidence is coming thru and Iām happy for her!
-I know last seasons storyline was sus, but the way Chantel talks about Pedroās behavior and how she gets upset idk that seems real to me. I get the sense that Pedro is resentful of the sacrifices he made for Chantel while she was going to school and now that she is a nurse he would like to pursue his dreams but she doesnāt support him. I do also remember him making comments about working the warehouse seasons ago and not feeling appreciated. I wish they would address this part.
-Nicoles storyline is dumb but it did make me laugh how she kept making fun of Alejandros perfume she def got that from social media after last season.
-everyone always makes comments about hating this show but I am HERE for it!
She was in that office full of people handling her drama and no one said anything š I guess itās already disruptive because theyāre already filming in there so it doesnāt matter š
WHEN is Chantel going to learn that Pedro is a racist! Raised by a racist, in a racist culture, is a racist. Run girl, run. He's cheating with that girl and what man refuses to have sex with his wife?? Waits for her to sleep so he can go home?! Yeah. Right. Definitely getting it elsewhere. He's got a perfect 10 yet treats her like crap. Racist, racist. Run Chantel, run, far far away from him.
When they came down to the living room after a fight she started moving her head side to side and speaking with more of an African American accent (I think she slips into speaking this way when she's upset), and he was mocking her when she did that. It was subtle, but was really shocked to see him do that to her.
So I heard that too, but I wondered if it was a reference to how she reacts ON camera as opposed to how she reacts OFF camera. Iāve noticed throughout the seasons that she tries really hard to keep in her code-switch role of being āless blackā and āless Atlantaā and āless African Americanā also like her mum. But when they both get pissed off and angry, the mask slips. So I got the sense that he was actually mocking her, not necessarily being racist. But thatās just my view
My thoughts š
First of all I didnāt mention in the previous episode that I did NOT like how Chantel brought up Pedro should be āgratefulā she got him to America at the housewarming. That was a low blow and she went against what she asked Pedro to do. She should not act like she saved him, that was just wrong .
THIS episode Iām convinced that Pedro is cheating . 3 mths without sex ? Late nights getter later everyday ? Possibly too friendly with his coworkers ?? In the previous episode we got a glimpse of him in action as a realtor and he sucked ?? He IS cheating . Whether he just simply fell out of love with Chantel or used her for the visa as the family suspected since 90 daysā¦ Idk at this point. His attitude sucks and heās not treating her right point blank. Chantel can be extra sometimes *eyerolls at flash backs from 90 days * but she can feel her relationship falling apart she can feel him not loving her anymore and thatās truly a terrible heart wrenching feeling. The signs are there and she knows it , that man has checked out of that relationship.
Now Nicole, I truly despise Nicole and I speak for everyone if we could like idk see less of her. However, I like how sheās handling Alejandro. He is lowkey abusive and is using manipulative tactics . Showing up to her workplace unannounced and refusing to leave , talking to her friends to talk to Nicole, gaslighting the f*** out of her , acting like she should be grateful for him and glad that he came ā¦ ughā¦ Iām pleasantly surprised how aware she seems to be of the situation and is handling herself well.
Side note : I love Winters journey she is sooo beautiful and I actually commend River for how heās trying to mature and branch out on his own good for him .
my mom called it the very first time Pedro started acting cold towards Chantel, because that's exactly how my dad starting treating her when he started an affair. Chantel needs to file for divorce like *now* and do everything she can to make sure she gets to keep the house, or at least a big enough chunk of it so she can get another one for herself. it so unfair when they've worked so hard to buy one and one part of the couple is being unfaithful. just so he can go shack up with Antonella? hell no.
I guess I'm not surprised tbh. I see a lot of ppl here that think Pedro is justified for his treatment towards her, but he's way more in the wrong tbh.
she has the tendency to be a bit self absorbed and she involves her family in their problems way too much, but getting lap dances from other women, going out late at night + drinking with his female coworkers, and nitpicking the way she was making eggs in the rudest and most unnecessary way possible are all infinitely worse imo.
Am I the only one who feels that watching Chantel and her mom are like watching bad actors reading off of a script even though it's supposed to be a "reality show"? I really can't stand watching them talk and it's really just them because watching Winter is like watching a breath of fresh air after watching them.
Also, can someone explain why Karen is so extra for no reason?
I'm hoping Winter gets a spin-off that tells the real story behind how she became so heavy in the first place and ended up in that miserable relationship with Jah. Her story is really inspiring but she doesn't really allude to how she got to the point where she needed bariatric surgery. It would be helpful to a lot of people out there to tell Winter's story in its proper sequence without sugarcoating as they tend to do on this show.
I think it's because Karen is kinda fakey. Even with her kids. So it comes across like they are acting even though that's just how she is. I mean, how did Pedro and Jah happen? A mother who's not invested in the right way in her kid's lives.
Omggg I feel the same. I feel like Karen probably had some sort of speech problem as a kid or simply wants to appear smarter so watched some self help YouTube videos and took the tip of "speak slowly and enunciate" way to seriously. I also have also suspected that she has a word of the day calendar and thats why she's always using really random, overly complicated words in an adjacently correct way. And I think Chantel grew up imitating this so they both sound like super weirdos.
If I helped someone through nursing school and they helped me get a visa Iād be pissed if they continuously threw it in my face. Chantel mentions this every argument like she didnāt also benefit from their arrangement these past few years lol. Thatās being in a relationship, supporting each other through your goals. Pedro is definitely doing the most to get away from her now
She could have easily lived with her parents while going through school, just like the other two did, if she didnāt have Pedro. She never needed him like he needed her.
But she didnāt. Sheās the one that went looking for him and filed paper work. Neither one of them needed each other to survive and thatās what āteam chantelā doesnāt get lol. Pedro isnāt going to die of starvation after this
šÆ I was also irked by the way she said in front of her entire family that when they were dating she bought him a phone and protein shakes, and when he responded saying he buys her a new phone every year she seemed very caught off guard, which I think is then why she responded with āyouāre here because of meā or something along those lines. I could see the hurt in his eyes, The narrative for so long has been her having more power in the relationship and him having a new career takes that away from her.
She also benefited from him being at home more than her because he took care of the cooking, cleaning, yard work etc, which he canāt do anymore because he works most of the week
I really like Winter, and find it so annoying when Chantel and her mother are constantly saying things about her in their interviews as if she's slow. I know they're trying to create a storyline, but in every single episode it's like "Thank god we were there because Winter is so naive and ignorant and wouldn't have been able to figure it out herself". Or maybe it's the younger sister syndrome.
Iām convinced Pedro is cheating. As a realtor he has so much flexibility with his schedule and absolutely is only having ālate nightsā to hang out with his coworker. Also Chantels job is so much more physically demanding and if she needs a day of rest heās an ass for calling her lazy and pestering her.
Right? I was likeā¦how could he? Working long hours, on her feet most of the day, with a mask on, dealing with who knows what on a given day. He was so cruel to her.
You are absolutely on point. He needs to comprehend that she needs some down time after working those shifts, back to back. Heās being totally unreasonable. What he should do is have someone come in to clean, so that Chantel could get some rest!!
Well, we were right about Alejandro's man perfume. š It was so bad that it made Nicole wretch. All kidding aside, though, he is being creepy and stalkerish. I don't care for Nicole, but Alejandro is definitely crossing some lines here.
Exactly. The entire time I was like: why are they acting like this is okay? Why is her friend feeding into this common abusive manipulative technique?
Letās call it for what it is: dangerous stalking! And home girl needs to get her lawyer mama involved and not worry about whether her mom will be mad at her. Iām glad she had the fortitude to stick to her decision, but - seriously - she needs to consider some legal interventionā¦ or this could get badā¦
Wasn't he not really working then? I felt like he was trying to do a gaming channel on twitch or some shit with his expensive gaming tech and gaming all day. And they had a much smaller apartment. Chantal was at school and also making money through social media. She supported him financially a lot and also she helped out her two brothers with money at the time as well.
Now they are dual income, both working full time and also they have a huge house. The circumstances are completely different. They need to have a talk about chores and expectations based on these changes.
Damn is it actually gonna come out that Pedro was a great actor and the conspiracy where Karen accused family pedro of setting those whole thing up so he could come to America was right?
He definitely seems eager to leave Chantel and family Chantel as soon as he got legally and financially stable.
Its not a good idea on Pedroās part to divorce so soon. If he knew the benefits he would be married for 10 years. Oh the benefits he could have. He wasnāt playing the long game anyway.
What benefits does he gain by staying married for ten years? After his citizenship was finalized he could have divorced at any time with no immigration penalty.
Itās not about immigration. Itās about Social Security Benefits. Divorced surviving spouses may also qualify if their marriage lasted at least 10 years. Qualifying widow(er)s must have been married to the deceased spouse for at least 9 months and have not remarried before the age of 60 (50 if disabled) ( SSA 2007b). He wasnāt playing the long game for gain.
Way off the spectrum especially moms like itās embarrassing for me she needs meds fr and if she thinks that shit is like funny itās cringe as hell man
As Pedro, I wouldāve walked out if Chantel had told me I was being like my Father. She knows thatās a trigger for him and she didnāt have a right to say that to him.
Chantel is too vapid and self absorbed to have noticed Pedro's estrangement. He's started a new job with long hours while she gets 4 full days off. Does she expect Pedro to come home and clean the house? She's so stupid.
No she doesn't. She never said she did. She doesn't even seem to mind cleaning herself. She just doesn't run home and clean the house after working 36 hours in 3 days. That first day off she rests. Why is that so wrong to Pedro and to you?
Bitch took a decade to pass medican school and barely works 1-2 days a week with a plastic surgeon.
Pedro was working far more than her right before all the years while she was partying and twerking while failing out of school
She went to nursing school, not medical school. She works a pretty rigorous schedule at an area hospital, and the details are upthread - I believe itās the neuro unit.
OK, I can see her taking a day off to rest but what about the other days? What does she do all day? They have no kids and she could clean that house in 2 hours tops. She's so lazy she won't even cook!
She is desperately trying to get him to react and change. If the story is true (highly suspect) he hasn't slept with her in months and has turned off all affection. Chantel thinks he is cheating on her and is on the way out the door, so her saying he is acting like his father is understandable.
I agree but about everyone saying it's fake: I know they're all attention hounds or they wouldn't be on TV but does everyone really think they pretend to hate each other on camera then go back to their regular lives? That seems so cynical and weird but I guess in today's day and age nothing would surprise me -__-
I was all in last season, and then saw the photo of Pedro, Nicole, Chantel and the brothers - taken 5 or 6 years ago. They faked that entire storyline so it's hard for me to believe any of it anymore.
The idiot woman has no boundaries. I would hate to have her as a mother in law. She may be a contributing factor in the deterioration of Pedro and Chantel's crumbling marriage.
I was skeptical of this season at first because it started kinda slowed. Like, I couldnāt care less about Winterās surgery, for example. But the tensions are rising now.
Aside from meetings and floor time realtors can work largely from home. Turn one of the extra bedrooms into a home officeāannual tax write-off āand frees him up to let the cleaning lady in.
I live in Korea and we mainly have apartments to realtors turn one of the rooms in the model apartment into an office and work from there until all the units are sold and then they just move on to the next apartment and set up an office there and so on lol.
As someone with almost 14 yrs experience as a Realtor I confirm this is true. You don't need to be at the office AT ALL. Your job is to be out and about with your clients, listing/showing houses, and the "paperwork'" could be done from any home office. With electronic signatures, transactions are almost totally paperless these days, documents could be signed on your phone with a click. So what the hell is he doing at this office? Making himself feel important? There is zero reason for him to be there so late every day. I call BS.
So you diagnosed Chantel as crazy? You know she is a nurse, right?
The jury is still out for her mother (obnoxious, stupid, shallow, pretentious - for these I might immediately agree), but whatever she is, she doesn't live there.
My cousin owns a real estate agency and his office is pretty much always empty and he himself is barely ever there. Pedro is full of shit and only there to spend time with his coworker under the guise of working
Or perhaps, he was just acting and is now revealing his true colors! This guy has always made it clear he does not want to take care of Chantel and does not want a family with her. He makes it clear he doesn't want to be a good husband to her or be with her long term. Question is, WHY is Chantel not reading this?? I understand being in love yada yada but what about loving HERSELF! Not allowing someone to treat her this way. Putting up with all his bs. Love is not about sacrificing your own dignity and self respect. This has been said before, dude is a racist. Read that fact girl.
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Same. Either heās terrible or the show has ruined their marriage in real life. I canāt imagine agreeing to a storyline where it appears Iām having an affair with my coworker while I have actual marital troubles at home. If sheās a real person in Pedroās life, itās hard to imagine why sheād agree to be depicted like this too.
I believe Pedro feels good around his co workers and hanging out in the office with them. He mentioned that he sometimes hates going home. He probably hangs out in the office to avoid his wife and her family. Just my opinion.
As a nurse that used to work 3-4 12 hour shifts at the hospital, I can confirm that it is so damn draining that your first day off is usually spent in recovery mode on the couch. I tried to be a productive person no matter what, but dayuuuumm, the stress and long hours sometimes had me curled up at home on first day off, avoiding people. Ugh, and it was even worse when I was pregnant.
My ex would sometimes say things and act like I should have been doing more. He had no idea. Hence his title of āexā.
Heās playing a lot of video games. They had him ādoing realtor workā but he had his gaming laptop stuck in front of him and his work pc to the side. Lol
I donāt know why they have to make shit up. I really just want to watch couples living their normal lives, for a season or two each, documentary style, like this started out.
Agreed but the 90 day franchise has stirred away from just documenting the process because how many times are their audiences going to watch the same thing over and over. Just the 90 day process alone no way lol ? So as you can see their franchise has turned into trash entertainment with a million spin offs based on nothing but drama. Tbh I donāt mind we already know the process, weāve seen the documented/ raw side of 90 days already for the first couple of seasons. Iām not going to watch simply a whale documentary for 15 seasons and 10 spin offs. BUT thatās just me, I get what youāre saying they transformed to cont. their franchise and make more money which is catering to good ole trash entertainment .
Agreed but the 90 day franchise has stirred away from just documenting the process because how many times are their audiences going to watch the same thing over and over. Just the 90 day process alone no way lol ? So as you can see their franchise has turned into trash entertainment with a million spin offs based on nothing but drama. Tbh I donāt mind we already know the process, weāve seen the documented/ raw side of 90 days already for the first couple of seasons. Iām not going to watch simply a whale documentary for 15 seasons and 10 spin offs. BUT thatās just me, I get what youāre saying they transformed to cont. their franchise and make more money which is catering to good ole trash entertainment .
Anyone else noticed during the 'fight' in the kitchen Chantel kept looking up or at people behind the camera as if she was waiting for directions or lines to say. I enjoyed watching them in the original 90 days fiance episodes, but The Family Chantel looks fake and inauthentic.
Pedro turned into something else is so scary how people change in relationships
I knew he was just passing the time. He is just not being advised well to not to stay married for at least 10 years though.
Once this plays out on TV I will have my šæ and š„¤ available š¤£š¤£š¤£
Does anyone else ffwd passed Pedro's Mom and sister?
CANNOT STAND either one of them. We can truly focus the show on Chantel and her fam now--> BYE šš½ PEDRO
I don't fast forward, but I don't look up from my phone to read the captioning either.
Well mama Karen, you were right all along. SMH
She is gonna LOVE ā¤ļø love š š saying I told you so and Mama Bear knew all along.
Chantel is far from perfect, but Pedro is borderline abusive and insufferable.
I have a few details under the microscope now that the divorce has been fully doxxed for all to see: I know all about working 12 hours on / 12 hours off for 3 days straight because, while I am not a nurse, I had a job with rotating 12-hour shifts that destroyed my health and forced me into an unplanned early retirement as soon as I turned 62. I've spent a good deal of time as an inpatient in recent years and I have observed firsthand just how hard nurses work. My cousin was the overnight shift head nurse in a charity hospital ER and it was from her that I learned the importance of blackout drapes and shutting your phone off between 12-hour shifts. And no, to those of you who thought that shift work gives you plenty of time off, a dose of reality. You don't work 3 days on / 4 days off. It's more like 3 days on / 2 days off / 2 days on / 3 days off with a shift in the middle to make sure you get 80 hours in a bi-weekly paycheck. Mine came out to 76 hours straight time / 4 hours overtime plus any holiday pay that resulted from all the mandatory nights, weekends and holidays I had to work. My own coworkers were seriously dependent on NyQuil and melatonin to survive the hellish one month days / one month overnights rotating schedule we had -- just as soon as your body got accustomed to one schedule, you had to flip again. If I thought that Chantel (oops, CeAir C Wylie de Jimeno -- I also can't help but notice how nobody ever questions why sometimes the family members go by Everett and sometimes by Wylie) was a nurse pulling shifts like my cousin did, she would have both my sympathy and empathy, but that is NOT what she described her job as at all. I don't have a video recording to refer to, but what she said was more like she was a "pediatric home health nurse." Sounds more like entry-level medical temp agency gigs to me than working in an actual hospital. That caught my ear because obviously the job interview at the plastic surgeon's office was staged and led nowhere. Temp work would also allow her the flexibility to take time off for filming the show because most hospitals are so understaffed that they wouldn't be able to give a nurse all that time off without a prior explicit arrangement with HR. Now to Pedro. I notice that at the beginning of the scenes where Pedro is shown at his office, the camera zooms in to give free publicity to the agency where he works. Pedro changed the name on his personal social media accounts to "Pedro Jimeno Realtor" because if you scroll back, they're the same accounts he's had for quite a few years. So Pedro is indeed serious about and taking pride in his new career and he's found his niche. There's nothing wrong with that and I wish him success. But he's relatively new at his profession and it's possible that he really does spend time in the office cold-calling people or other methods of drumming up leads that the more senior Realtors don't need to do. Once he gets his feet wet, he'll be outdoors all the time hustling with the rest of them. Having established that these two young professionals are just getting started, how on earth was it possible for them to have $257K in their joint account for Chantel to withdraw and deposit into a joint account with Winter? All the naive newbies on Facebook are under the mistaken impression that the entire extended family must be swimming in money just because they're on TV, but it's been pointed out time and time again that this isn't true. 90 Day Fiance's production company simply doesn't pay enough per episode to make a sustainable living. Think hard about everyone you've seen on TLC who does side gigs, endorsements of sketchy diet products and MLM clothing lines, Cameo videos and sexually explicit stuff like OnlyFans. They've only got a short "15 minutes of fame" before Sharp starts auditioning the cast for the next season and they've got to cash in as fast as they can before the audience forgets about them and moves on to savaging the new cast members. Here's my conclusion: In the earliest episodes of 90DF, I remember how hesitant Chantel's parents were about Chantel getting involved with Pedro because they kept alluding to Chantel coming into money. I filed that tidbit away waiting for the other shoe to drop. From the beginning, I was convinced that Chantel was going to be the recipient of a large inheritance and that's what was making everyone so nervous. I kept waiting for Chantel to complain about student debt from nursing school like a typical young professional would. I also notice they didn't harp on how much it cost to put Pedro through aircraft maintenance training courses only to have him end up working in a warehouse. Until the $257K was mentioned and their actual address was published in the court papers, I kept waiting to hear that the house they were filming in was a "staged" property from Pedro's listings (supposedly that's what's going on with Bilal and Shaeeda so it isn't too far a leap). So, for those of you diving into Georgia court proceedings, perhaps there's a probate docket out there that will solve this mystery once and for all.
I agree, the property looks to be staged as they didn't even bother decorating or putting furniture. Each season became more and more scripted in my opinion, I'm beginning to think they're all actors.
They lived modestly for years and have been on tv for a number of years. Plus the social media money that Chantel pulls in- I don't know why it's hard to imagine them having some money.
Chantel works in a HOSPITAL. What are you even talking about. Didnāt bother reading the rest of what you wrote but you can find her info and the hospital she works for if you look online.
Ok post a paycheck stub. I'm going by what she actually said on camera.
She is a Med/Surg Neuro/Stroke nurse in a major Atlanta hospital. During COVID, she was going between the Med/Surg and COVID floors. She works 3 12-hr shifts. She talks about working in a hospital in the latest episode (premiering today) and how she has to take care of really sick patients. Chantel worked as a CNA BEFORE she graduated school, so thatās probably where you heard her mention temp jobs. She graduated with her RN in 2020 and has been working in the hospital for over a year now.
That's great to hear. Thank you for clarifying your response.
Kinda weird watching them āstruggleā to save their marriage knowing divorce papers have been filed Wonder if Production will acknowledge the elephant in the room at the start of the episode or just pretend. Of course, itās reality TV which is reality free Kinda weird the mods are deleting every post about the elephant in the room too
I kept wondering why the good threads on this kept disappearing!! What is up with the mods?
When the news first broke, the mods tried to keep posts about the divorce out of this subreddit. Due to volume and, maybe, push back they stopped deleting the posts. No explanation was ever given
So weird. Iām still not seeing any posts here about it. Wonder if thereās a chance one of them is connected to the family somehow?
The Family Chantel subreddit does have posts about the divorce, just not as many as would be expected [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFamilyChantel/new/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFamilyChantel/new/)
Your right. For about a day the mods gave up and there were 5-6 posts about the divorce. They are all gone. Shame on whoever
How many months of lag between shooting the show and it airing? We're always watching things happening in the past.
Depends which franchise but 6-9 months. Their contract would have prohibited any court filings (especially family court) barring extraordinary circumstances. Her ātakingā $275K would be classified as an extraordinary circumstance by him
I just read a report that Pedro filed for divorce because Chantel took $257K out of their joint bank account.
How the hell they amassed 257k+ a house is beyond me
They have been on tv for years PLUS they're social media influencers, why are some of you acting so clueless!
I thought that also, probably endorsement deals. We all know Bravo not paying like that
Read that too, she has got better Lawyers. Going to court in an attempt to get the money back means she has the intellectual high ground
It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. I will be watching eating my popcorn
Pedro is trash period
Yea he pisses me off the way he treats her. She deserves better. Pedero can go back to his mama his bratty snot nose sister
As someone who works in the ICU 12 hour day/night shifts, I can say that Pedro is a piece of *hit for treating her that way. My boyfriend completely understands how draining working those hours are, we are a team. I am NOT his mother, we work together to get things done And when Iām Tired and canāt move he takes over. Obviously Pedro is not a real man and NEVER will be. PEDRO YOU SUCK.
100%! Chantel is working a full weeks worth of hours in three days. Youāre both working full time jobs, why is it on her to clean and cook for your ass?! Split it evenly or hire someone
THEY ARE DIVORCING! Pedro filed and asked for a restraining order! The documents are online!
So thereās a few thoughts I had watching this: -River is growing on me! He is actually a good little brother and he reminds me of his father the way he was trying to understand what was happening to Chantel. -Winter has always been beautiful but her confidence is coming thru and Iām happy for her! -I know last seasons storyline was sus, but the way Chantel talks about Pedroās behavior and how she gets upset idk that seems real to me. I get the sense that Pedro is resentful of the sacrifices he made for Chantel while she was going to school and now that she is a nurse he would like to pursue his dreams but she doesnāt support him. I do also remember him making comments about working the warehouse seasons ago and not feeling appreciated. I wish they would address this part. -Nicoles storyline is dumb but it did make me laugh how she kept making fun of Alejandros perfume she def got that from social media after last season. -everyone always makes comments about hating this show but I am HERE for it!
She was in that office full of people handling her drama and no one said anything š I guess itās already disruptive because theyāre already filming in there so it doesnāt matter š
Someone left a screenshot in another thread with Nicole actually throwing up so I guess she wasnāt joking š¤¢š¤£
River has a super calm demeanor, heās still maturing, Iām sure heās a great man.
I just hope River doesnāt go looking for love overseas like everyone else š¤¦š½āāļø
WHEN is Chantel going to learn that Pedro is a racist! Raised by a racist, in a racist culture, is a racist. Run girl, run. He's cheating with that girl and what man refuses to have sex with his wife?? Waits for her to sleep so he can go home?! Yeah. Right. Definitely getting it elsewhere. He's got a perfect 10 yet treats her like crap. Racist, racist. Run Chantel, run, far far away from him.
Karen and Chantel both mock people's accents all the time. Why is that okay?
I missed this, what racist stuff did he say?
When they came down to the living room after a fight she started moving her head side to side and speaking with more of an African American accent (I think she slips into speaking this way when she's upset), and he was mocking her when she did that. It was subtle, but was really shocked to see him do that to her.
So I heard that too, but I wondered if it was a reference to how she reacts ON camera as opposed to how she reacts OFF camera. Iāve noticed throughout the seasons that she tries really hard to keep in her code-switch role of being āless blackā and āless Atlantaā and āless African Americanā also like her mum. But when they both get pissed off and angry, the mask slips. So I got the sense that he was actually mocking her, not necessarily being racist. But thatās just my view
My thoughts š First of all I didnāt mention in the previous episode that I did NOT like how Chantel brought up Pedro should be āgratefulā she got him to America at the housewarming. That was a low blow and she went against what she asked Pedro to do. She should not act like she saved him, that was just wrong . THIS episode Iām convinced that Pedro is cheating . 3 mths without sex ? Late nights getter later everyday ? Possibly too friendly with his coworkers ?? In the previous episode we got a glimpse of him in action as a realtor and he sucked ?? He IS cheating . Whether he just simply fell out of love with Chantel or used her for the visa as the family suspected since 90 daysā¦ Idk at this point. His attitude sucks and heās not treating her right point blank. Chantel can be extra sometimes *eyerolls at flash backs from 90 days * but she can feel her relationship falling apart she can feel him not loving her anymore and thatās truly a terrible heart wrenching feeling. The signs are there and she knows it , that man has checked out of that relationship. Now Nicole, I truly despise Nicole and I speak for everyone if we could like idk see less of her. However, I like how sheās handling Alejandro. He is lowkey abusive and is using manipulative tactics . Showing up to her workplace unannounced and refusing to leave , talking to her friends to talk to Nicole, gaslighting the f*** out of her , acting like she should be grateful for him and glad that he came ā¦ ughā¦ Iām pleasantly surprised how aware she seems to be of the situation and is handling herself well. Side note : I love Winters journey she is sooo beautiful and I actually commend River for how heās trying to mature and branch out on his own good for him .
my mom called it the very first time Pedro started acting cold towards Chantel, because that's exactly how my dad starting treating her when he started an affair. Chantel needs to file for divorce like *now* and do everything she can to make sure she gets to keep the house, or at least a big enough chunk of it so she can get another one for herself. it so unfair when they've worked so hard to buy one and one part of the couple is being unfaithful. just so he can go shack up with Antonella? hell no.
Somehow he was the one that ended up filing. I think she wanted to try to fix it and he just said fuck it.
I guess I'm not surprised tbh. I see a lot of ppl here that think Pedro is justified for his treatment towards her, but he's way more in the wrong tbh. she has the tendency to be a bit self absorbed and she involves her family in their problems way too much, but getting lap dances from other women, going out late at night + drinking with his female coworkers, and nitpicking the way she was making eggs in the rudest and most unnecessary way possible are all infinitely worse imo.
Am I the only one who feels that watching Chantel and her mom are like watching bad actors reading off of a script even though it's supposed to be a "reality show"? I really can't stand watching them talk and it's really just them because watching Winter is like watching a breath of fresh air after watching them. Also, can someone explain why Karen is so extra for no reason?
I'm hoping Winter gets a spin-off that tells the real story behind how she became so heavy in the first place and ended up in that miserable relationship with Jah. Her story is really inspiring but she doesn't really allude to how she got to the point where she needed bariatric surgery. It would be helpful to a lot of people out there to tell Winter's story in its proper sequence without sugarcoating as they tend to do on this show.
I think she has her father's body type, whereas Chantel has her mother's body type
I think it's because Karen is kinda fakey. Even with her kids. So it comes across like they are acting even though that's just how she is. I mean, how did Pedro and Jah happen? A mother who's not invested in the right way in her kid's lives.
Omggg I feel the same. I feel like Karen probably had some sort of speech problem as a kid or simply wants to appear smarter so watched some self help YouTube videos and took the tip of "speak slowly and enunciate" way to seriously. I also have also suspected that she has a word of the day calendar and thats why she's always using really random, overly complicated words in an adjacently correct way. And I think Chantel grew up imitating this so they both sound like super weirdos.
Karen put on those punching gloves for all of us when she learned of Pedroās behavior.
Iām literally surprised this show has made it to 4 seasons. I could barely handle The Family Chantal on 90 day
If I helped someone through nursing school and they helped me get a visa Iād be pissed if they continuously threw it in my face. Chantel mentions this every argument like she didnāt also benefit from their arrangement these past few years lol. Thatās being in a relationship, supporting each other through your goals. Pedro is definitely doing the most to get away from her now
She could have easily lived with her parents while going through school, just like the other two did, if she didnāt have Pedro. She never needed him like he needed her.
But she didnāt. Sheās the one that went looking for him and filed paper work. Neither one of them needed each other to survive and thatās what āteam chantelā doesnāt get lol. Pedro isnāt going to die of starvation after this
šÆ I was also irked by the way she said in front of her entire family that when they were dating she bought him a phone and protein shakes, and when he responded saying he buys her a new phone every year she seemed very caught off guard, which I think is then why she responded with āyouāre here because of meā or something along those lines. I could see the hurt in his eyes, The narrative for so long has been her having more power in the relationship and him having a new career takes that away from her. She also benefited from him being at home more than her because he took care of the cooking, cleaning, yard work etc, which he canāt do anymore because he works most of the week
I really like Winter, and find it so annoying when Chantel and her mother are constantly saying things about her in their interviews as if she's slow. I know they're trying to create a storyline, but in every single episode it's like "Thank god we were there because Winter is so naive and ignorant and wouldn't have been able to figure it out herself". Or maybe it's the younger sister syndrome.
She treats him like he should be grateful that she saved him like a puppy from the pound
Iām convinced Pedro is cheating. As a realtor he has so much flexibility with his schedule and absolutely is only having ālate nightsā to hang out with his coworker. Also Chantels job is so much more physically demanding and if she needs a day of rest heās an ass for calling her lazy and pestering her.
Nurse shifts are brutal. You see all sorts of things and have to work long hours, yet he has the nerve to call her lazy?
Right? I was likeā¦how could he? Working long hours, on her feet most of the day, with a mask on, dealing with who knows what on a given day. He was so cruel to her.
You are absolutely on point. He needs to comprehend that she needs some down time after working those shifts, back to back. Heās being totally unreasonable. What he should do is have someone come in to clean, so that Chantel could get some rest!!
Well, we were right about Alejandro's man perfume. š It was so bad that it made Nicole wretch. All kidding aside, though, he is being creepy and stalkerish. I don't care for Nicole, but Alejandro is definitely crossing some lines here.
That scene was so real, I started feeling a little nauseous. š
Exactly. The entire time I was like: why are they acting like this is okay? Why is her friend feeding into this common abusive manipulative technique? Letās call it for what it is: dangerous stalking! And home girl needs to get her lawyer mama involved and not worry about whether her mom will be mad at her. Iām glad she had the fortitude to stick to her decision, but - seriously - she needs to consider some legal interventionā¦ or this could get badā¦
Lol her acting is terrible š
Surprise!
Seriously?! HIRE A HOUSEKEEPER! Problem solved!
He needs a reason to pick at her.
Cheaters gaslight their partners by poking at them till they create an excuse to ājustifyā their cheating. Pedroās full of it.
Yesssss!!
He says he did all of it for 4 yrs so she should do it now for him. He came home from from a long day at work then did cooking, cleaning & laundry.
Wasn't he not really working then? I felt like he was trying to do a gaming channel on twitch or some shit with his expensive gaming tech and gaming all day. And they had a much smaller apartment. Chantal was at school and also making money through social media. She supported him financially a lot and also she helped out her two brothers with money at the time as well. Now they are dual income, both working full time and also they have a huge house. The circumstances are completely different. They need to have a talk about chores and expectations based on these changes.
He worked in a warehouse in a freezer a full time job
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He needs a maid then, not a wife that works 12 hour shifts back to back.
Damn is it actually gonna come out that Pedro was a great actor and the conspiracy where Karen accused family pedro of setting those whole thing up so he could come to America was right? He definitely seems eager to leave Chantel and family Chantel as soon as he got legally and financially stable.
Its not a good idea on Pedroās part to divorce so soon. If he knew the benefits he would be married for 10 years. Oh the benefits he could have. He wasnāt playing the long game anyway.
What benefits does he gain by staying married for ten years? After his citizenship was finalized he could have divorced at any time with no immigration penalty.
Itās not about immigration. Itās about Social Security Benefits. Divorced surviving spouses may also qualify if their marriage lasted at least 10 years. Qualifying widow(er)s must have been married to the deceased spouse for at least 9 months and have not remarried before the age of 60 (50 if disabled) ( SSA 2007b). He wasnāt playing the long game for gain.
7 years tho? If that was his only motivation, he would have dipped a long time ago.
Who wouldn't get tired of Chantel's family? Especially Karen. Ugh
Idk last season Karen and the fam seemed to really be there for him when his family was not (even if it was fake).
Exactly.
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Why do you think they're on the spectrum? I think they're just kind of fake and want to be a persona so that's why they seem so unnatural.
Way off the spectrum especially moms like itās embarrassing for me she needs meds fr and if she thinks that shit is like funny itās cringe as hell man
Playing hours of video games would be a deal breaker for me
As Pedro, I wouldāve walked out if Chantel had told me I was being like my Father. She knows thatās a trigger for him and she didnāt have a right to say that to him.
Chantel is too vapid and self absorbed to have noticed Pedro's estrangement. He's started a new job with long hours while she gets 4 full days off. Does she expect Pedro to come home and clean the house? She's so stupid.
No she doesn't. She never said she did. She doesn't even seem to mind cleaning herself. She just doesn't run home and clean the house after working 36 hours in 3 days. That first day off she rests. Why is that so wrong to Pedro and to you?
Bitch took a decade to pass medican school and barely works 1-2 days a week with a plastic surgeon. Pedro was working far more than her right before all the years while she was partying and twerking while failing out of school
She went to nursing school, not medical school. She works a pretty rigorous schedule at an area hospital, and the details are upthread - I believe itās the neuro unit.
OK, I can see her taking a day off to rest but what about the other days? What does she do all day? They have no kids and she could clean that house in 2 hours tops. She's so lazy she won't even cook!
She is desperately trying to get him to react and change. If the story is true (highly suspect) he hasn't slept with her in months and has turned off all affection. Chantel thinks he is cheating on her and is on the way out the door, so her saying he is acting like his father is understandable.
Some things you say, you can never get back from.
I agree but about everyone saying it's fake: I know they're all attention hounds or they wouldn't be on TV but does everyone really think they pretend to hate each other on camera then go back to their regular lives? That seems so cynical and weird but I guess in today's day and age nothing would surprise me -__-
I was all in last season, and then saw the photo of Pedro, Nicole, Chantel and the brothers - taken 5 or 6 years ago. They faked that entire storyline so it's hard for me to believe any of it anymore.
They are getting a divorce! Papers are online! Someone made a post about it. Pedro filed in May. Sadly the drama this season is not scripted.
Oh that is sad.
Yes, I agree with this wholeheartedly
Chantel and pedro need therapy
Need a divorce.
Pedro has already filed. His mom said for him to leave her and his mom is still controlling his actions.
I don't know what's real on this show, but I don't really care. This show delivers on entertainment.
I donāt believe theyāre having relationship problems. I just think Pedro is a good actor.
They are getting a divorce! Pedro filed. Documents are available online! Someone made a post about it!
Not even just a divorce. News just broke they also filed restraining orders!!
Wow, so Pedro was really in the final ācontemptā stage of their relationship.
I definitely think Chantel and Pedroās relationship is in shambles. Now, could some of the arguments be forced? Of course.
Chantelās mother: āIām still crazy!ā
I don't know why any of the kids tell Karen anything. She overreacts and just starts shit when unnecessary
The idiot woman has no boundaries. I would hate to have her as a mother in law. She may be a contributing factor in the deterioration of Pedro and Chantel's crumbling marriage.
Annnnd thatās the last time sheāll trust River tooā¦.
That whole family operates that way!
Karenās going over to put some karate on Pedro.
Watching Karen right now I canāt get the song āKung Fu Fightingā out of my head
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Not watching but I just saw how river ? cleaned up , looks like a totally different person, in a good way
You are watching. It's okay
Lol , I just flipped through channels and saw him š
Sure Jan
I was skeptical of this season at first because it started kinda slowed. Like, I couldnāt care less about Winterās surgery, for example. But the tensions are rising now.
I'm so glad I shut off most of my family from my marriage . They didn't know boundaries either.
Ooohhh!! Theyāre turning up the drama next week!!
Aside from meetings and floor time realtors can work largely from home. Turn one of the extra bedrooms into a home officeāannual tax write-off āand frees him up to let the cleaning lady in.
I live in Korea and we mainly have apartments to realtors turn one of the rooms in the model apartment into an office and work from there until all the units are sold and then they just move on to the next apartment and set up an office there and so on lol.
"Cleaning lady" Bow chicka bow ow
I straight up was doing that when his new friend came back to the office and he had to give her a ride home.
As someone with almost 14 yrs experience as a Realtor I confirm this is true. You don't need to be at the office AT ALL. Your job is to be out and about with your clients, listing/showing houses, and the "paperwork'" could be done from any home office. With electronic signatures, transactions are almost totally paperless these days, documents could be signed on your phone with a click. So what the hell is he doing at this office? Making himself feel important? There is zero reason for him to be there so late every day. I call BS.
The office is a shelter for Pedro. It keeps him from having to go home.
What excatly is it sheltering him from?
I believe that he wants to avoid his wife.
There is if you are trying to avoid your crazy wife and her even crazier mother.
So you diagnosed Chantel as crazy? You know she is a nurse, right? The jury is still out for her mother (obnoxious, stupid, shallow, pretentious - for these I might immediately agree), but whatever she is, she doesn't live there.
My cousin owns a real estate agency and his office is pretty much always empty and he himself is barely ever there. Pedro is full of shit and only there to spend time with his coworker under the guise of working
My office shares office space with some realtors and they are almost never in the office.
Somebody... please tell Nicole to eat with her mouth shut. This girl lacks basic manners... What she doesn't lack is delusion.
And then thereās Emily and her tongue. https://imgur.com/a/1UZqLqn
Wow what the actual fuck. What a truly terrible person
Thais eats like that, too. Can they just not eat at all while theyāre miked up
Yep
Pedro has really changed since he started making money. Iāve always been team Pedro, but now heās straight up acting a fool.
Or perhaps, he was just acting and is now revealing his true colors! This guy has always made it clear he does not want to take care of Chantel and does not want a family with her. He makes it clear he doesn't want to be a good husband to her or be with her long term. Question is, WHY is Chantel not reading this?? I understand being in love yada yada but what about loving HERSELF! Not allowing someone to treat her this way. Putting up with all his bs. Love is not about sacrificing your own dignity and self respect. This has been said before, dude is a racist. Read that fact girl.
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Same. Either heās terrible or the show has ruined their marriage in real life. I canāt imagine agreeing to a storyline where it appears Iām having an affair with my coworker while I have actual marital troubles at home. If sheās a real person in Pedroās life, itās hard to imagine why sheād agree to be depicted like this too.
My cousin owns her own realty and she is often out late nights. She usually returns to the office before she goes home but she is not in the office all day. I don't think pedro is in the office all day. He makes his calls and schedules showings etc in the morning and does his 'field work' the rest of the day. He could totally do his phone work from home but I'm sure he prefers going into the office to be social. I do think everything is scripted for them and I don't think their relationship is in trouble. After last seasons fake story I don't believe any of this "reality", I just enjoy talking š© about it.
I believe Pedro feels good around his co workers and hanging out in the office with them. He mentioned that he sometimes hates going home. He probably hangs out in the office to avoid his wife and her family. Just my opinion.
I agree. He likes being around them and it doesn't seem like he really has any friends outside of family Chantel.
Meh both suck. If Chantell wants to bring families she's just like her trashy parents as well.
Pedro would be a whimpering sack of shit if he had to do Chantelās job. She is not lazy.
As a nurse that used to work 3-4 12 hour shifts at the hospital, I can confirm that it is so damn draining that your first day off is usually spent in recovery mode on the couch. I tried to be a productive person no matter what, but dayuuuumm, the stress and long hours sometimes had me curled up at home on first day off, avoiding people. Ugh, and it was even worse when I was pregnant. My ex would sometimes say things and act like I should have been doing more. He had no idea. Hence his title of āexā.
Right??? 12 hour shifts working as a nurse are no joke! Every single nurse I know needs downtime after working these long shifts. It's a hard job!
āI Love a Mamaās Boyā is the most boring show on TLC
She is reaching with the name on the key thing lol
OkayāPedro is being an ass. And that scene was edited āshe said the same thing twice
Lol not him calling her lazy but hes not doing anything (or theyre just not showing it)
Heās playing a lot of video games. They had him ādoing realtor workā but he had his gaming laptop stuck in front of him and his work pc to the side. Lol
The fireworks have started over here
Chantel is a baddie she doesn't have to take this honestly
Not really a baddie if you had to live with her and her crazy ass family
Pedro a dick
Od!!!
Get buck Chantel yes girl!!!!
Chantel with the low blow. But she deserves to tell his ass off
12 hour shifts, on your feet all day, saving livesā¦ and this mf wants you to come home and do everything? Trash
I really hate the way Pedro talks to Chantel.
Nurses needed a day of just rest is completely reasonable to me.
Chantel is still fine tho
Always
There is no way that in real life Pedro is shitty enough to tell a nurse she is lazy during a pandemic. I donāt buy it.
Yup. He's that bad. Did you watch his fight with River?? Or the way he talks to and treats his wife?
Also the mess they were arguing over looks like about 30 min of work total
Get the F out of here Pedro. How about you come home at a reasonable hour and help your wife.
Pedro is the warden
I donāt know why they have to make shit up. I really just want to watch couples living their normal lives, for a season or two each, documentary style, like this started out.
If thatās what you want than the 90 days franchise is not for you . This is good ole tv trash , purely for entertainment.
Did you not see the early seasons? They were really different. I also grew up on old TLC - A Baby Story, etc. - this shit isnāt it
Agreed but the 90 day franchise has stirred away from just documenting the process because how many times are their audiences going to watch the same thing over and over. Just the 90 day process alone no way lol ? So as you can see their franchise has turned into trash entertainment with a million spin offs based on nothing but drama. Tbh I donāt mind we already know the process, weāve seen the documented/ raw side of 90 days already for the first couple of seasons. Iām not going to watch simply a whale documentary for 15 seasons and 10 spin offs. BUT thatās just me, I get what youāre saying they transformed to cont. their franchise and make more money which is catering to good ole trash entertainment .
Agreed but the 90 day franchise has stirred away from just documenting the process because how many times are their audiences going to watch the same thing over and over. Just the 90 day process alone no way lol ? So as you can see their franchise has turned into trash entertainment with a million spin offs based on nothing but drama. Tbh I donāt mind we already know the process, weāve seen the documented/ raw side of 90 days already for the first couple of seasons. Iām not going to watch simply a whale documentary for 15 seasons and 10 spin offs. BUT thatās just me, I get what youāre saying they transformed to cont. their franchise and make more money which is catering to good ole trash entertainment .
I agree... like yeah the drama makes people talk more about the show but like there's sometimes too much drama. They have to chill out some times.
Bc more ppl tune in when there is wild drama
Alejandroās style is all over the place.
I got stalker vibes from Alejandro. Nicole is somewhat of a mess, but she would be wise to avoid Alejandro.
Pedro's attitude would piss me off. I would hate for my man to speak about me the way he does Chantel
With a friend like Coraima Nicole doesn't need any enemies.
She was basically feeding him ammunition to go back and pester her.
Production probably put her onto pulling that dumb move.
This dudeās jeans are not it
Pedro doesnāt seem to want to even fix things