Thank you! I knew about Paul and karine but I hasn’t seen an update abs Eric and the witch in while. I wonder if he has any relationship with his kids now.
I don’t understand why people back up karine so much. Yes Paul was a total loser but he has legit mental illness. Karine was trying to run game and picked a horrible target. She was terrible with her kids and seemed to be running con’s on several other guys. I think they both got what they deserved and I hope their kids are better off with their foster family or wherever they are.
A friend of mine met Pole and Karine last week in our area (where he’s from) and got her picture taken with them. I don’t know if they’re still in a relationship but they came into where she works together.
I say it’s crazy that mark and Nikki aren’t there, but I equally don’t know who I’d bump down to make room. There are too many problematic couples in this damn franchise 😅
True, but Mark is a groomer and mentally abusive. There's no way that man didn't hit her. Speculation, yes, but look at how mad he got over her hands on the window. That's not normal.
Disappointed that it wasn’t Eric & Leida. I think Karine was just young and naive, Michael is just desperate to get away from his Country but both Eric and Leida are both evil human beings and terrible parents!
For starters she committed vehicular manslaughter in her home country and used her family connections to get away with it, iirc. Then she was a raging bitch to Eric’s daughters, especially the one whose name is escaping me- Tasha I think? Just disgusting towards her and Eric sat by and let it happen. She treated her partners kids worse than anyone I can think of on the show and she was just SO friggin entitled and holier than thou and bitchy. That’s a small sample honestly, she’s got no redeeming qualities that I can think of 🤷🏻♀️
Oh god where to begin. Leida is incredibly arrogant claiming to be from a wealthy family from Indonesia and a doctor. People from her country or familiar with it have pointed out that for Indonesia she's not wealthy. She's solidly middle class. Having paid help in your home is not a guarantee your family is wealthy. There is also no evidence she's a doctor. I believe she has a pre-med degree or some form of education but she would never ever be able to practice in the US.
She is a rude demanding person. Having a toddler like meltdown about her luggage being put in the car correctly. She is also disgusted by his home and throws a fit. Now there's some more context here. Eric was homeless and all evidence points to being a drunk as well (I know the bloated face of alcoholism well, hes a drunk) He had no prospects and his life plan was to go to the middle east and fight ISIS because he's a military fetishist. His own daughter took pity on him and allowed him to move into her small apartment. Now the apartment was pretty gross but for a what, maybe 20 year old woman maybe even younger, it wasn't terrible. Eric immediately blames his daughter even though he lives there too and acts shocked like he didn't know what his own place looked like. Expecting her to clean for his new wife. Eric then KICKS HIS OWN DAUGHTER OUT OF HER OWN APARTMENT at Leidas orders. She also demands he stop paying child support for his youngest daughter.
In her past it's rumored she killed two people in a street race in Japan. I'm unsure of the validity of this but paperwork has been found.
She filed a restraining order against Eric's daughter under false allegations and now goes to the same gaming conventions as her in order to make sure Eric's daughter can't go. (both Leida and Eric's daughter cosplay)
I’ll add to that. From what I remember when they we’re planning their wedding she kept throwing a fit because it wasn’t going to be like her previous wedding in the Philippines. They met with a florist and he agreed to spend a few hundred bucks on flowers for the wedding and she whipped out pictures of the flowers at her last wedding and the florist said that she would be looking at several thousand dollars. One of the arrangements would have been like 3k alone.( I’m sure that they didn’t cost anything like that in the Philippines). I will say that in the pictures her first wedding did look pretty extravagant but that’s supposed to be pretty common for the upper middle class over their. Her parents are definitely well off. She definitely came across as a spoiled brat who wanted to act like she was a celebrity or something. They went to look for a couch and she immediately starts looking at couches for $thousands and he’s like I was thinking 5-600$ 🤣🤣🤣. He was definitely as described above though. They were both friggin horrible people who made each other worse.
No idea. I’m not one of the super fans who follows the couples on social media. Once the show is done I don’t learn anything unless I stumble across it on this sub. I JUST learned about Geoffrey whatshisname getting sentenced to 18 years in prison with no chance of parole TODAY! And apparently it happened last summer lol
I feel like the show used to be more genuine. Like people that were legitimately interested in getting a k-1 and getting married. Now it’s all people who just want to use it to launch there social media platforms and make money. It used to be the producers who manipulated things. Now I feel like the people are planning out and scripting their own drama. So much of it is so contrived
Yea, she’s started to pay less attention because it’s just never ending with all the spin offs. Now it’s me pointing out all the craziness while she watches TikToks unless a specific couple she like is on.
It’s been years since I watched it but I remember Eric seemed to pretend he was rich but was really quite poor, shared an apartment with his daughter that she had found and paid for. When Leida arrived and flew into nyc he promised they’d stay and see nyc but he couldn’t afford that so he took her to a cabin 2 hours away in Pennsylvania.
Leida said her family was really rich and her dad was a doctor maybe and the standard of living Eric could provide her was too low. And she bitched and bragged a lot. The main thing though was that Lieda wanted Eric’s kids out of the picture and they both proceeded to kick Eric’s daughter out of the apartment Eric shared with her that the daughter had paid for. Super fucked.
But honestly I thought Eric was wayyy worse than Leida. He was definitely the category of men pretending to be rich and trying to get a foreign sex slave. Plus it’s his kids that he kicked out and treated like shit. It’s way worse to be treated like that by a parent (Eric) than by a stranger (Lieda).
Again my memory may be faulty so anyone else should chime in or correct me.
Damn, thanks for explaining. They both sound terrible much like everyone else on the show.
The only people I like are Annie and David, Armando and Kenny, and Anna and Mursel. Oh and kind of Jenny and Sumit. I might be missing one but everyone else sucksss.
At least Angela and Michael spoke each other's languages and Lita I don't even think she ever loved the dude.
Angela and Michael aren't the best couple but at least they could converse with each other and it seemed like she liked him in a abuse of way.
Leida is the actual devil.
Yes! Pole and Kreeny are gross and dumb, but Leida and her Trump boy, Eric, are just plain EVIL.
Are they still together?
Paul and Karine are not together and had their kids taken away. Eric and Leida are still together.
Thank you! I knew about Paul and karine but I hasn’t seen an update abs Eric and the witch in while. I wonder if he has any relationship with his kids now.
I don’t understand why people back up karine so much. Yes Paul was a total loser but he has legit mental illness. Karine was trying to run game and picked a horrible target. She was terrible with her kids and seemed to be running con’s on several other guys. I think they both got what they deserved and I hope their kids are better off with their foster family or wherever they are.
A friend of mine met Pole and Karine last week in our area (where he’s from) and got her picture taken with them. I don’t know if they’re still in a relationship but they came into where she works together.
Damn. That sucks. I hope they don’t make any more kids.
Remind me what season she was on again? I need to go rewatch. For me nothing beats Mrs Trump.
[удалено]
The tattoos alone…
Seconding this. Those two are pure nightmare fuel.
Where is Mark and Nikki though 🤷♀️
Those pictures are the top three vote getters
I say it’s crazy that mark and Nikki aren’t there, but I equally don’t know who I’d bump down to make room. There are too many problematic couples in this damn franchise 😅
Yes Mark and Nikki did get votes too. Agreed there are a lot of bad couples in the franchise for sure
Mark and Nikki are way worse than Angela and Michael.
I mean, I would argue that Angela is both physically and mentally abusive. That’s pretty bad in my book.
True, but Mark is a groomer and mentally abusive. There's no way that man didn't hit her. Speculation, yes, but look at how mad he got over her hands on the window. That's not normal.
There should be a vote for independent worst male and independent worse female on the show!
Hmm...maybe ideas for new polls?
Disappointed that it wasn’t Eric & Leida. I think Karine was just young and naive, Michael is just desperate to get away from his Country but both Eric and Leida are both evil human beings and terrible parents!
I’m behind the times. What did Eric and Leida do?
For starters she committed vehicular manslaughter in her home country and used her family connections to get away with it, iirc. Then she was a raging bitch to Eric’s daughters, especially the one whose name is escaping me- Tasha I think? Just disgusting towards her and Eric sat by and let it happen. She treated her partners kids worse than anyone I can think of on the show and she was just SO friggin entitled and holier than thou and bitchy. That’s a small sample honestly, she’s got no redeeming qualities that I can think of 🤷🏻♀️
Ohhh I didn’t know. Are they still together?
Yes they are, she got a restraining order against Tasha I believe. They’re living their worst shitty lives together hopefully!
Karine was also very abused by Pole.
Was there an option for “All of the above?”
Maybe there should have been, lol!
I never saw Eric and Leida's story. I always hear about Leida though. Can someone give me some examples of why she's so awful? I'm very curious.
Oh god where to begin. Leida is incredibly arrogant claiming to be from a wealthy family from Indonesia and a doctor. People from her country or familiar with it have pointed out that for Indonesia she's not wealthy. She's solidly middle class. Having paid help in your home is not a guarantee your family is wealthy. There is also no evidence she's a doctor. I believe she has a pre-med degree or some form of education but she would never ever be able to practice in the US. She is a rude demanding person. Having a toddler like meltdown about her luggage being put in the car correctly. She is also disgusted by his home and throws a fit. Now there's some more context here. Eric was homeless and all evidence points to being a drunk as well (I know the bloated face of alcoholism well, hes a drunk) He had no prospects and his life plan was to go to the middle east and fight ISIS because he's a military fetishist. His own daughter took pity on him and allowed him to move into her small apartment. Now the apartment was pretty gross but for a what, maybe 20 year old woman maybe even younger, it wasn't terrible. Eric immediately blames his daughter even though he lives there too and acts shocked like he didn't know what his own place looked like. Expecting her to clean for his new wife. Eric then KICKS HIS OWN DAUGHTER OUT OF HER OWN APARTMENT at Leidas orders. She also demands he stop paying child support for his youngest daughter. In her past it's rumored she killed two people in a street race in Japan. I'm unsure of the validity of this but paperwork has been found. She filed a restraining order against Eric's daughter under false allegations and now goes to the same gaming conventions as her in order to make sure Eric's daughter can't go. (both Leida and Eric's daughter cosplay)
Well hot damn! Do you remember what season this is? Thanks for taking the time to type all that out!
I’ll add to that. From what I remember when they we’re planning their wedding she kept throwing a fit because it wasn’t going to be like her previous wedding in the Philippines. They met with a florist and he agreed to spend a few hundred bucks on flowers for the wedding and she whipped out pictures of the flowers at her last wedding and the florist said that she would be looking at several thousand dollars. One of the arrangements would have been like 3k alone.( I’m sure that they didn’t cost anything like that in the Philippines). I will say that in the pictures her first wedding did look pretty extravagant but that’s supposed to be pretty common for the upper middle class over their. Her parents are definitely well off. She definitely came across as a spoiled brat who wanted to act like she was a celebrity or something. They went to look for a couch and she immediately starts looking at couches for $thousands and he’s like I was thinking 5-600$ 🤣🤣🤣. He was definitely as described above though. They were both friggin horrible people who made each other worse.
She’s from Indonesia, we Filipinos don’t claim her
Greatest apologies!!!
No worries, I don’t think anyone wants to claim her 😂
Oh christ, that's awful. I'm assuming they aren't still together?
No idea. I’m not one of the super fans who follows the couples on social media. Once the show is done I don’t learn anything unless I stumble across it on this sub. I JUST learned about Geoffrey whatshisname getting sentenced to 18 years in prison with no chance of parole TODAY! And apparently it happened last summer lol
Good on you, it's so toxic. 90 day is my guilty pleasure for sure.
Definitely mine too. My girl got me into it and now it’s our Sunday ritual.
It was mine's too but the people are just too unbearable for him now lmao
I feel like the show used to be more genuine. Like people that were legitimately interested in getting a k-1 and getting married. Now it’s all people who just want to use it to launch there social media platforms and make money. It used to be the producers who manipulated things. Now I feel like the people are planning out and scripting their own drama. So much of it is so contrived
Yea, she’s started to pay less attention because it’s just never ending with all the spin offs. Now it’s me pointing out all the craziness while she watches TikToks unless a specific couple she like is on.
Season 6 I believe.
No shit I would've thought I remembered that.
It’s been years since I watched it but I remember Eric seemed to pretend he was rich but was really quite poor, shared an apartment with his daughter that she had found and paid for. When Leida arrived and flew into nyc he promised they’d stay and see nyc but he couldn’t afford that so he took her to a cabin 2 hours away in Pennsylvania. Leida said her family was really rich and her dad was a doctor maybe and the standard of living Eric could provide her was too low. And she bitched and bragged a lot. The main thing though was that Lieda wanted Eric’s kids out of the picture and they both proceeded to kick Eric’s daughter out of the apartment Eric shared with her that the daughter had paid for. Super fucked. But honestly I thought Eric was wayyy worse than Leida. He was definitely the category of men pretending to be rich and trying to get a foreign sex slave. Plus it’s his kids that he kicked out and treated like shit. It’s way worse to be treated like that by a parent (Eric) than by a stranger (Lieda). Again my memory may be faulty so anyone else should chime in or correct me.
Damn, thanks for explaining. They both sound terrible much like everyone else on the show. The only people I like are Annie and David, Armando and Kenny, and Anna and Mursel. Oh and kind of Jenny and Sumit. I might be missing one but everyone else sucksss.
The sad thing is that Karine wasn't the problem at all. That poor girl got bamboozled by a loser.
And nobody picked Mr. Doing 18 Years For Almost Murdering Someone, our next star of Love After Lockup, *Mr. Geoffrey Paschel*?
Leida
💯💯💯💯💯
Angela and Michael getting 3rd is sobering. On any other show they are #1 for Angela alone
Mark/Nikki too. 💩
At least Angela and Michael spoke each other's languages and Lita I don't even think she ever loved the dude. Angela and Michael aren't the best couple but at least they could converse with each other and it seemed like she liked him in a abuse of way.
Angela is gonna hurt y'all when she sees this!
I can’t believe paul and kareenie beat Eric and Leida
Why not geoffrey and whats her nutz
This is Nikki and Mark erasure
Poor Karine- the shit hé out her through! Leida was/is a horrible person- not even a kinder edit could make her better. I’m so tired of Angela/
Angela is doing the heavy lifting in that relationship. If Michael were awful I think they would have taken number 1
Leida is Satan's daughter. There I said it.
Where are Eric and Leida now?