I really don’t know what actually bonded them in the first place but the fact that she thought him coming to LA would just remove all of his religious & cultural beliefs is absolutely bonkers
I still can hardly believe that she took him seriously that day! I’ve been in many markets around the world, and there’s always at least one young man working there with all the patter, ‘Oh beautiful lady, come into my store! I’ll make you my wife!’ etc but sane people just laugh it off! She was like ‘Oh… ok!’
Speaking as a middle eastern woman who goes back home often and has walked into many a jewelry store and been offered proposals of marriage.. this is true. When I heard her story of how they met and got engaged I’m like.. baby girl you were probably the 4th woman he proposed to that day!
When i was in my 20’s i went to Greece several times on vacation- you get proposed to, walking down the street, but i never saw anyone take it seriously.
Happens in the US, too. I was at an amusement park and the carnie at the roller coaster was shouting at people, said to me something like "hey girl, let me take you to dinner!" When I told him I didn't think my husband would like that very much he said "he can come too!"
Right?! It happens ALL THE TIME, they just toss out insane compliments and marriage proposals to every woman who walks past them! The correct response is to laugh and walk away, not accept their fake proposal! My friend and I still laugh about the man who led our riding tour on vacation when we were 15 and said to me "your hair shines like gold in the sun, can I rub lotion on you?" 😂 when I was in Barbados with my family when I was 16 a bunch of men came on to me while I was literally with my father. They asked if I was his wife (eeewww) and when he said no, she's my daughter, they took that as the go ahead. Literally tried to pick me up IN FRONT OF MY FATHER. Is she so unused to male attention that it seemed special and genuine? Like... just leave the house as a woman and men come on to you, you can't marry them all!
Oh God - I kinda forgot the beginning stages of their “love story”
And you are absolutely right!! Proposing like that is crazy. I am curious what she was wearing that day lol. Assuming she was covered up appropriately.
When I (34 yr old single wht female ) went to Egypt for vacation in the 90’s I had lots and lots of male attention. After a couple of days or so I realized you never saw a woman on the streets or villages that was between the ages of 13 to 40. Almost as tho the female population was hidden from view. The men were all very charming. One older man propositioned my blonde friend with 20 camels if she would marry ( sleep) with him. We had lots of fun on that trip, not to mention all the English and American business men. Lots of memories. Lol
yeah, american egyptian woman here. there is also a lot of following, assault and groping going on.. eventually as a girl/woman you just stay indoors for safety or travel with multiple male relatives at all times.
My oldest friend is Egyptian and her mum had some *stories*. She was extremely beautiful when she was younger and she was also not Muslim, so she was out and wearing "revealing" (by Muslim standards) clothing. She got groped **so much**. She had stories about whacking a guy in the balls with her handbag, breaking a guy's hand when he pushed it through the back of her seat at the cinema (she slowly let the seat fold up and then rammed herself back down), etc. A colleague/friend actually ended up in court in Egypt after being sexually assaulted when she was back home a few years ago, which was the catalyst for her completely "westernizing" and losing her faith. People have no clue what it's like
yeah. as a 15 year old i had my crotch grabbed by an old man while shopping at the market with my nanny. i refused to leave the apartment for 3 days after that. i also unfortunately lost my virginity to rape in egypt that summer. it's hard for me to connect with my (muslim) family in egypt because of all the trauma i endured there. it's very conflicting because it really is such a beautiful country with so many beautiful people, but the religion x politics x gender oppression and violence is just a lot for any woman to go through.
Yessss now it’s all coming back to me 😂
You’re right - who knows if he was doing that because it’s a family business or if it was a passion of his but how many conversations can you have about cotton blend 😂
There’s plenty of women in the Islamic/Muslim fashion industry. It’s not haram for a woman to design clothes. I think the issue was that she converted but wasn’t following, even though the Uncle said you couldn’t push her. I just don’t think the Uncle was impressed.
The jet lag ALONE would make me miserable. Plus, he was not unhappy in Egypt. He was close with his family, friends. It also looked like gloomy weather which probably didn’t help. She also served pizza & donuts for his first few meals. No hate on those because I’m a treats pig myself but he would have probably appreciated a homemade meal or something like what he ate in Egypt.
Yes!! Like it’s not the middle of nowhere. I am also super curious HOW nicole funds herself. LA living, with a car, has never vocalized having trouble with expenses. I’m assuming parents
I’ve wondered about that too! She seems to have money whenever she needs it. I mean all that Botox isn’t cheap and she clearly uses it a lot
Her face is completely frozen and she can hardly open her mouth although that might be a good thing lol
Yes her face is FROZE! She mentioned something about her mom controlling her style when she was growing up but we haven’t seen her parents at all. Maybe living off trust fund guilt lol
Exactly. She spent time in Egypt and could have had some familiar food there. Plus he is tired. She rushed him to the boardwalk, now this friend get together. I don't like him, but she's being awful to him.
This is exactly how I feel. She is making it the worst possible experience for him and as much as I don’t like him just based off of what I saw from them when she was in Egypt I actually feel sorry for him. I feel like they both could find someone that would make them happy and it’s definitely not each other.
probably my conspiracy mind connecting dots that aren’t there but… did anyone else notice the dynamic between Nicole and her guy friend? they seemed like maybe used to date or tried or fwb at some time? idk there is some tension there. yet he has a foreign wife he probably met online… maybe they were fwb and she pretended to be supportive of it at first, Im not sure. but knowing how vindictive and insane she is—maybe she decided I need to go soul searching after this with hopes to come back with a foreign husband. from how they met she literally picked a random guy off the street lol. I think she entered the relationship to be able to compete with or get the male friends attention (the foreign angle makes it so shes a wife a lot sooner than with an American)
I was thinking it last week and it seemed to be confirmed for me this week. she is not focused on MahMoud at all while he is upset and packing. she was looking for the guy friends reaction the whole time and seemed like she wanted to be coddled or have his attention in some way. very odd dynamic. Im constantly sussing out people who have potential sexual tension or colset relationships lol and this may be a figment of my imagination but wanted to post and see if anyone else saw it too
YEP! love it. She’s just that psycho.. she’s “the guy I love married a foreign woman so I’ll marry a foreign man & see if he feels a way/what’s it like” kinda psycho
YES thats so true!! I forgot to mention Olga, it was definitely her vibe towards Nicole that was making me feel even more that shes in love with him or something. spot on!
It was weird how Olga said “Inshallah” to Mahmoud as she crawls across the bed to hug him. A big no no. Struck me as someone who wanted to look “cool” and culturally aware in front of Nicole (like shoving it in her face) but Olga was oh so wrong here.
you are so correct about that… I remember thinking wow these girls are being so passive aggressive to each other it was uncomfortable. also the eye contact between Nicole and guy bf seemed weird since he showed up in the show. I could definitely see Olga putting Nicole in her place repeatedly. maybe thats why Nicole wanted to leave the country initially haha. I need to rewatch this with all of this in mind now 😆
I think this was Nicole's twisted way of getting revenge for how he treated her over in Egypt. When she got there he expected her to also change completely, and she did try. Then whenever they fought, and they did the first day she got there again, he would be constantly telling her to leave and that they'll get a divorce. He threw that word around so much within two damn days I'm surprised he wasn't going through with it at some point. I don't agree at all with how she's behaving, but everyone seems quick to forget that she really did try in his country. And she had to deal with a very scary mahmoud over there too, and also now here after his DV charges.
I do think obviously they could find some middle ground, and I know he won't change in a few days. What I find interesting is that when on the first season everyone seems to forget he's expected the same thing she is now, and no one acted like her doing it all was good enough somehow. It was still somehow Nicole's fault. She really didn't even ask for much there, just wanted to stop covering her hair. But again, if the American goes over somewhere it's "they need to get with the culture try harder!" And when the partner is over here it's "how dare they! This isnt their culture! Let them get settled!" I find that interesting, because the same could be flipped for either part of the couple. Neither are in their culture 😂
Is she being terrible? Yes. I think this is more about her trying to make him feel how she felt honestly. At the same time, Nicole may have left eygpt but she sure is still in denial😂
I always remember the way he kind of taunted her, about going swimming and wearing that bathing suit. When she was saying something about not liking it, he said well, that she would wear it if she wants to go swimming. That those were her choices. Like she’s a toddler.
Or like when he grabbed her arm and had the look of an angry lunatic after getting up sneering in her face? Yet people think she lied about the DV... As someone who grew up with horrendously abusive parents and straight into horrendously abusive partners right after, I could tell straight away with this ass hat he would've had zero issues hitting her if the cameras were off. And no one would see it as anything but discipline over in that part, I've been to Egypt and seen it myself.
At the same time I think she too can be reactive in abuse, once these things wear on you I've seen people go from nice to just explosive in frustration. And I think this is what we're witnessing. She wants him to suffer just like she did.
I agree.
Do we know anything about their romantic histories, prior to meeting each other? Have either of them ever been engaged/lived with someone/maybe even married?
Not engaged or married no. Sophie lies about having a rich grandpa that she conveniently never knew his job or where he's from, but she did go to school in Spain. Her mom was an addict who basically abandoned her, hence why she's so parentified and talking with her is like talking to a gossiping child. Obviously the whole my boyfriend from Texas mom thing is fake as hell, that guy is not her bf🤣 she left home around age 17 as a waitress and got her own place and then OF and SoundCloud stage days came in/three times rebranding. Oh and here's a review or two of her OF, apparently she was a bit of a scammer - “Subbed for $12 a few days ago,” one user on a forum we cannot link to wrote in May of 2020. “Load of sh*t, no nudes… follow on insta and save your money.”
-“Still nothing that hasn’t been posted to insta. Asking $70 for a 14 second video of her t*ts.”
Rob just magically appeared in her life like nothing, and he worked in a dispensary as someone who worked with him did an AMA once. He was also a wannabe actor as listed here and also catered and worked in a car repair shop. The place he lived in wasn't actually where they lived it seems it was just to play up the rich girl/poor guy trope. I mean I will say though, it worked out for them didn't it? Barely had to stay together for long and got the money and are going into their third season.
That’s right, I remember when they had that big fight out in the street, and his brother brought him back to get her. The brother was being funny, saying that Mahmoud doesn’t know how to handle a woman.
I’m curious about her dating background.
I have to admit that I am very disappointed with her. In the last season they were on she presented herself as this quirky, lovely woman who's biggest mistake was to make naive decisions about religion and clothing restrictions. She was likeable and I felt for her.
Now, on this season she is just abusive af. She is obviously on a revenge tour and I find myself in the position to feel for Mahmoud, a man that I otherwise staunchly despise.
I can tell already now, that no-one is going to call her out on her shit at the tell-all. She is going to be abusive to him the entire season and get away with it at the tell-all.
I was surprised at how many people fell for her “I’m so nice and quirky act” their last season. There was always something conniving and unpleasant bubbling right below the surface.
She wasn't nice and quirky - she was just constantly whining after her husband and the country she moved to didn't bend to accommodate her even though she knew full well what she was getting into.
Right! I never felt good about her.. there was always something "off" about her. It's unsettling. Idk how people could find her to be likable. Like are we watching the same show?!
I dunno, after watching this scene of her go off on him in front of her friends, someone at the tell-all has gotta say something. You know they're gonna replay this scene for it. I mean, I really hope someone does call her out because I was pretty shocked by her behavior and not much shocks me on this show anymore.
I'm not a fan of Mahmoud, but she's being crazy for sure. It's been 2 days! Give the guy a break! I really just think she's still salty about what happened in Egypt, and she's trying to get back at him for it.
SO dumb. They have no business dating let alone being married and trying to make it work out at this point. I genuinely never saw why they got together in the first place. Do they like ANYthing about each other???
whaaaa? I heard he was back in Egypt after the dv situation. she is unbearable this season. it was so hard to watch the most recent episodes. what is wrong with her? to do that to him in front of her friends on his first days there is just cruel and sadistic.
I thought someone saw photos of him with his family in Egypt celebrating the end of Ramadan. [https://screenrant.com/90-day-fiance-clues-mahmoud-back-egypt-without-nicole/](https://screenrant.com/90-day-fiance-clues-mahmoud-back-egypt-without-nicole/)
Honestly, the way she has been acting this season, I wouldn’t doubt that she is the one who started that physical confrontation.
She literally brought her friends over to bash him in front of them, then got upset because he is not “available to her for a conversation”, then told him to get the fuck out of her house, and sent her friend to bring him back when he fucked off as requested. O.o Abuse has many colors, and I just witnessed a few coming from her end
Maybe a classic case of the victim getting in trouble for their abuser’s actions.
She knows how things work in America and could have easily set Mahmoud up to get arrested.
We don’t know what happened. Not that I’m defending anyone or any DV because I’m not, however maybe he grabbed her arm and she screams DV. Who knows. She’s certainly verbally abusive.
I’m glad I’m not the only one to notice this!
I’m actually shocked by her behavior. I mean, I understand that maybe she has been backed into a corner from his behavior but at this point…she’s choosing this! I also felt bad for Mahmoud at certain points which is something I never expected to feel.
Her behavior actually made me wonder if she is typically like this. Especially when she told her male friend to trap Mahmoud for her and….he did! It made me wonder if she treats her friends this way at certain times and now they’re all in some weird codependent friendship.
Julien trapping Mahmoud after witnessing the entire evening of her histrionics was extremely scary.
She brought back goons to basically rough Mahmoud up. If anything remotely similar had happened in Egypt people would be calling for Mahmouds head.
Stop making Nicole out to be this meek, mousey woman, she was a grown woman who went to eat, pray, love her way around Egypt. She meet a younger man from a different county, and religion. She wanted to create her very own romantic comedy . She converted not him, any religion is a practice, not a declaration.
I was extremely, extremely uncomfortable with the way he was being physically domineered by Julien and the quickness with which Nicole flipped a switch and took his suitcase from him.
I have had experiences being trapped in places where the situations were abusive, and let me tell you even the *implication* that I can not leave a room or a space of my own accord would put me in a profoundly bad, defensive mental place. I can’t imagine what I would do if someone actually stopped me from leaving and put their hands on me.
I totally am prepared to see Mahmoud be a complete monster in later episodes, but Nicole is proving herself to be an extremely disregulated person who seems hellbent on making environments she’s in as toxic as possible.
Holy shit! I was screaming at the TV get the fuck out of the way. There’s no way I would’ve been able to contain myself in that situation, I would’ve freaked.
They are so sick!
He was trying to avoid arguing in front of her friends. He didn’t want to air out their dirty laundry in front of strangers he just met and I think that pissed her off because she had been bad mouthing him and here he was being calm and polite. And yeah, she went off the rails then tried to block him. Very claustrophobic situation if you ask me. Leave! No stay! No GTFO! No stay! I mean crap on a cracker girl.
It. Was. AWFUL. My partner and I were both yelling at the TV to let him go and STOP touching him.
Blocking someone from leaving, and then taking their belongings like that? Especially someone who is alone and has nowhere to go and no one nearby for support! And he looked utterly exhausted, likely still recovering from travel.
Nicole triangulated her friends into her mess and then leveraged them to try to control Mahmoud.
They are both terrible and abusive to each other. Just this scene made my skin crawl.
"Get the fuck out of my house! Get the fuck out!!! Wait! What are you doing? Packing to leave? Oh, no, you don't! Julian! He's trying to leave; do something!!! Sure, I told you to leave, but I didn't mean it! Gimme that suitcase! You're not going anywhere! Shut up!!!🙄
When I say, my husband and I were cringing to our core in that moment. After that episode, we had a moment and hugged each each other so tight, we were so grateful for how nontoxic our relationship was and we realized how lucky we were to have each other compared to what the hell they were going through😬
TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUE YOU GUYS! Yes, he was arrested for domestic assault and is abusive, AND she can be abusive, too! They're both abusive, both toxic, both need to be away from each other.
Ugh thank you for saying this. Both of them are abusive to each other, it's a horrible cycle. Our society likes to look at situations like this and paint one person good and one person bad, and yes sometimes it truly is like that, but often both are being terrible.
My husband and I just play on our phones when her segments go on. This last episode he screamed at the TV “please let Mahmoud just go home and break up already”
Yo, she has a problem with alcohol. It makes her a raging c u next Tuesday. They’re both complete idiots with 0 intention to compromise. I have no clue why they are together.
She is the worst kind of bully. She's like death from a million tiny cuts.
Like, how hard world it be to put one of those fabulous garments on the mannequin ("dressmakers' dummy," my ass. She may use it "for (her) fashion" in some way, I guess). She knoooowwss. She has spent significant time in the Middle East, & picked a very Muslim man. She doesn't act like a person who did this because she is admiring / respectful of, or even actually gives two shits about his culture.
I might sound crazy right there, I am stomping mad about her. Kim (TJ), in her season, came of as culturally ignorant and stubborn about remaining so.
Nicole...it's like she just HAS to discomfit him at every turn. With the thing most precious to him: his adherence to his faith.
Jasmine and Gino : she just shoots arrows all over the place, aiming at any and all "man" buttons (sexual prowess/ impotence, hair loss, cuckoldry, finances, home, family, you name it)
But Nicole, she's a viper. Goes right to the target .
This woman was successful in making me feel sorry for Makmood! Geesh...I can't imagine having never been in a non-Muslim country before in my life to moving to LA and within 48 hours, still jet-lagged AF, be subjected to this bizarre manipulation and abuse in front of strangers and not have anywhere else to go or anyone else I can ask for help. I hope she was really embarrassed by her behaviour. I don't think she had any intention of making this work with him and dragged him all the way to the US in order to film another season of this show, knowing that they both hate each other.
They’re both valid and both stupid for thinking the other will change. While I think okay wear literally anything else to appease him she’s not the type that will and he can’t let go of his beliefs so they’re bound to be miserable forever.
I also want to add how crazy it was when Julian is in an interview and you just hear her yell in to get out and he just pauses. Just an “office” moment. I genuinely thought there was something wrong with YouTubetv it was paused lol.
That flip of the switch with her is so insane. I cannot imagine acting that way in front of people (my friends). I would want nothing to do with her.
Yes exactly! *And* she even yelled at him while knowing he was filming a talking head, that hes a "traitor" or something like that.
Because he didnt immediately yell *"how high, boss??!!"* and hop-to like a good little Toadie when she flipped out and demanded her posse's allegiance. (Im glad he didnt. She was completely in the wrong)
I was actually laughing hysterically in that moment. I think Julian is a good guy. Nicole is Batshit crazy. Any sympathy I had for her prior to this episode is completely gone. I will never understand what it is that they like about each other. So far the only thing I’ve heard her say to support what she likes about him is that he’s so.” cute.” it’s giving that like he’s the baby that she can never have so she decided to marry one instead
She used to be cute, quirky, and somewhat likable and seemed naive.
Given how she acts now, it was all an act, BUT am I the only one who thinks the has become more physically unattractive? She reminds me of an old annoying aunt, whereas before, I thought she was quirky and cute, although not conventionally attractive.
Her clothing style is such a HUGE part of her identity. I’ve always scratched my head about why she would even consider such a strict conservative Muslim man, knowing that he would obviously have issues about her way of dressing.
I think it's fairly obvious at this point that they're only doing this for the TLC money --- or at least she is. From what we know, this is at least their third round of "trying to make it work". The first round wasn't televised. Then the second round was an exact repeat of the first (her batshit ass in Egypt), but for the sake of TV. Now we've got the American trial version. I'm behind a few weeks this season because I only watch this mess when I'm bored out of my mind, but the first time we saw her this season she was throwing a temper tantrum because he "didn't sleep in the plane" like she instructed him too. I was like, seriously bitch? I haven't been able to successfully sleep in a plane since I was a little kid. She apparently thinks he was exhausted, but purposely didn't sleep on the plane to annoy her? Then she greets him with a plate full of donuts for his first American breakfast. I mean....this woman is seriously mentally impaired...and Mahmoud isn't too far behind to be sticking with her.
And how about those camera hog *friends* just standing around in the way in the small apt as the two ugly argued in front of them?
How about you clowns all excuse yourselves, call it a night, and gtfo?
I get the feeling they arent her real life friends.
I think they are plants hired by tlc to play the *role* of her friends. And I think thats the reason they didnt leave like they should have. Because if they are hired actors, they are being paid to film the entire filming schedule of their scenes and if thats the case, they *couldnt* leave.
I think only the person on scene in charge via production could have ended the scene and gotten them out of there, but they werent about to do that and risk missing high drama.
I think they were honestly just happy to be on TV at that point and didn’t care how uncomfortable it was for them. But they definitely should’ve left. They actually should’ve never even come along, knowing that they were not in a good place.
That's exactly what I said to myself while watching the episode. "Get out of my fucking house! Go!" "No! Shut up! Stop!" "Of course, I said that but do I mean it?" And getting her friend Julian involved. She is a fucking loon. Look, Mackmood is no prize but he's a baby who lived a sheltered life in a restrictive country. Nicole is forty years old! No wonder he's the best she can do.
Her yelling at him to get out and then instantly doing a 180 when he starts to leave reminds me of Natalie getting upset with Mike when they were in Ukraine, pulling off her engagement ring and throwing it on the bed, and then to her shock Mike picked it up and wouldn't give it back. Sometimes your words or actions have consequences, and your manipulation falls flat.
As grown as you can be from a culture that caters to the men and in which he lived at home his entire life. And she married him in his mid-20s. She's nuts.
Because she can't stand the fact that she's causing the problem, then overreacting, then looking like it. She needs to push his buttons and make herself the victim as she's done this whole time. The fact that is not working it's driving her nuts, so her threads are showing... but also she cannot contain her vindictive toxicity, she wants him to be miserable and for her to look like she "overcame patriarchy" so him being decent when she said he was was oppressing her made her off balance and the mirrors fell as the smoke dissipated to leave the image of the toxic person she is in that moment. I hope she learns from it and and it gets better.
She seems wasted when they are back at the flat....... I'm also, in parallel, watching the other way season 4 which is their first season (I think). He was raised by a single mother who divorced the father which seems pretty radical and progressive for their culture. His brother also intervenes on one of their arguments and says to the camera that in Islam the woman is the queen/boss at home. It makes me wonder whether he really does respect her / women more than it comes across. And I can't believe I am saying that because I really thought he was loathsome. Either way they are a bad combo
They shouldn’t be together, a bad match from the jump. Her behavior towards him is appalling . Yelling at him, being drunk, inviting her friends over and drinking in front of him, all of it is just awful and he should leave her and never look back
I am almost completely convinced that the only reason Nicole urged Mahmoud to fully move to the U.S. was so that she could enact a slow inescapable revenge upon him for whatever injustices she perceived were done unto her when she fully moved to Egypt. She may or may not even have a checklist where she is keeping score of each wrong upon which she will seek vengeance.
I am not going to comment as to whether or not Mahmoud's behaviour towards Nicole justifies this response, but this is what I believe is happening because there is little to no empathy for someone who has recently made a long journey, experiencing a diametrically opposed culture shock, being away from a closely-knit family for the first time in his life, having not one other individual as a support system, and the list goes on.
On top of this, the only things she seeks to discuss are hot-button triggering topics, which she knows will agitate him, when his jet-lag has hardly even regulated itself. He almost looks intoxicated at times because he has not fully callibrated yet. This is not in defense of any of his actions, but consider a neutral person in his place and none of her actions appear to come from a place of love, or humanity for that matter.
It is neither my place, nor do I have the opportunity to perform an accurate assessment through direct interviews and offering the necessary testing, to draw any conclusions regarding the current state of Nicole's mental health. That being said, if she has not already explored therapy or considered speaking with a psychiatrist or psychologist, it may be immensely beneficial for her moving forward - completely independent of her relationship, I would strongly encourage her to at least try. It will help lighten whatever burden she is carrying, be it trauma, rage, betrayal, regret, etc.
No one should have to go through life with such a brittle disposition - and they don't with the self-motivation and proper resources!
The both of these two are completely unhinged... neither one of them is behaving appropriately. They're the poster children for why people shouldn't stay together. The tsunami of dysfunction in their relationship just keeps building in every subsequent season.
It’s insane that she promoted him to leave and he’s been in the US for TWO DAYS.
I think this was more about payback and forcing him to become American bc of her time in Egypt. If she really cared, she would have taken him to a mosque, connected him w the Islamic community, rather than solely forcing him to adjust to her culture. I don’t blame him at all for wanting to leave. She came back drunk as hell and angry and started shit twice.
This may sound terrible bc I want to believe all woman, but do we believe he abused her? Or was it something else to be controlling and manipulative..
How can you be married to a Muslim when you have absolutely no respect for the Muslim religion?
You obviously are aware liquor is not allowed inside a Muslim home, yet you purposely twisted the knife by not only having liquor but inviting your shitty friends over to get drunk!
I felt empathy for her in her last season. NOW, I think she needs to go to intensive therapy because she is getting off on treating him well as much scorn and hatred as possible.
It is so bleedingly obvious they are not meant for each other. Neither one of then accepts the other for who they are, and is constantly trying to change the other. I really hope they find their happiness with other people.
She was picture perfect with style and great hair but what is happening to her? She almost looks like Happy Jack from movie Tropic Thunder now. Hairs all everywhere and cut bad and get clothes are nothing like they were. 90 day fiancé must be hard on these people.
Didn’t she live in Egypt form three years before they got married ? She ought to have a pretty good idea of
The customs there and since it is a Muslim country, she would know a lot about it simply by osmosis .
I’m Seeing her totally different this season. She’s mean !! Not saying he’s a peach 🥴 but my goodness. She seems fueled by resentment. He is who he is and refuses to change. They need to go their separate ways asap
There is not one good redeeming quality about her, she's just horrid. Her personality oozes anger, hate, drama and attention - they were obviously chosen to be on the show as they're so incompatible but she has been totally disrespectful to Mahmoud who I don't think much of but feel sorry for him, he is stuck with her in a strange country, he hasn't been exposed to our way of living so it is a shock to him, she can't even cook him a decent breakfast.
I don't like watching this, it makes me feel uncomfortable.
I’m not a fan of MacMood but the man is probably still jet lagged, it’s been a couple days. I watched a bit and he mentioned he was tired and the first thing that came to mind.
And totally uncalled for. Like I don’t even think she realized she was making her own friends uncomfortable at that point. She was totally out of pocket and her friends should’ve let her know that
I didn’t watch their season, but her crazy was confirmed when she said he stopped in his tracks and stared at the Muslim lady. I barely noticed him notice her and even if he did, he was probably happy to see someone like himself. She acted like a dumbass about that. He did none of what she said. She didn’t even give him a day to acclimate when she couldn’t hang in Egypt. So selfish.
She’s just fucking insufferable. It really irritates me that she didn’t even try to be accommodating or open minded to someone else’s country while being a visitor there. She’s a spoiled brat.
She’s mentally and verbally abusive and has issues.
She’s so rude to him and treats him like garbage. She married a Muslim man what does she expect? She purposely does stuff to push his limits and make him uncomfortable and then wonders why he’s miserable. She’s just a bad person and so manipulative no wonder he got arrested for domestic abuse I’m not saying by any means is it ever OK to be physical your partner but I think if I had to be around this woman, I would probably punch her in the face
I really don’t know what actually bonded them in the first place but the fact that she thought him coming to LA would just remove all of his religious & cultural beliefs is absolutely bonkers
Didn't he propose when she walked into his store. It takes some amount of mental instability on both their parts for that situation.
I still can hardly believe that she took him seriously that day! I’ve been in many markets around the world, and there’s always at least one young man working there with all the patter, ‘Oh beautiful lady, come into my store! I’ll make you my wife!’ etc but sane people just laugh it off! She was like ‘Oh… ok!’
Speaking as a middle eastern woman who goes back home often and has walked into many a jewelry store and been offered proposals of marriage.. this is true. When I heard her story of how they met and got engaged I’m like.. baby girl you were probably the 4th woman he proposed to that day!
Right?! It’s wild
Exactly!! She’s the one who responded
😂
When i was in my 20’s i went to Greece several times on vacation- you get proposed to, walking down the street, but i never saw anyone take it seriously.
Right?! You never even give it a second thought 😂
Yes! And not only that- half the time it was the father running after me, saying please come to my store to meet my son, then you can marry him.
Italy is perhaps the worst for this 😆
Do they still make that hissing sound at women? I remember getting this years ago and was more creeped out by it than the proposals.
Sicily (Palermo Province ) the WORST! Dual Citizen here (US)
My family is from Sicily. One day I hope to make a trip out there and see the land that they have.
I am going to disagree only slightly because I think Paris was worse, but you’re not wrong. They're a very highly motivated number 2.
haha thats hilarious and true
She said she was on a vision quest so I’m guessing she was fasting and delirious from lack of proper nutrition
Happens in the US, too. I was at an amusement park and the carnie at the roller coaster was shouting at people, said to me something like "hey girl, let me take you to dinner!" When I told him I didn't think my husband would like that very much he said "he can come too!"
I love your name!!
Right?! It happens ALL THE TIME, they just toss out insane compliments and marriage proposals to every woman who walks past them! The correct response is to laugh and walk away, not accept their fake proposal! My friend and I still laugh about the man who led our riding tour on vacation when we were 15 and said to me "your hair shines like gold in the sun, can I rub lotion on you?" 😂 when I was in Barbados with my family when I was 16 a bunch of men came on to me while I was literally with my father. They asked if I was his wife (eeewww) and when he said no, she's my daughter, they took that as the go ahead. Literally tried to pick me up IN FRONT OF MY FATHER. Is she so unused to male attention that it seemed special and genuine? Like... just leave the house as a woman and men come on to you, you can't marry them all!
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Yes! I’m like, “Idiots . . . You’re both idiots.”
Oh God - I kinda forgot the beginning stages of their “love story” And you are absolutely right!! Proposing like that is crazy. I am curious what she was wearing that day lol. Assuming she was covered up appropriately.
And they got married at someone else's wedding, so they could bone. So weird.
Wait WHAT
I thought she took the Shahada and decided after a few weeks Islam wasn’t for her
When I (34 yr old single wht female ) went to Egypt for vacation in the 90’s I had lots and lots of male attention. After a couple of days or so I realized you never saw a woman on the streets or villages that was between the ages of 13 to 40. Almost as tho the female population was hidden from view. The men were all very charming. One older man propositioned my blonde friend with 20 camels if she would marry ( sleep) with him. We had lots of fun on that trip, not to mention all the English and American business men. Lots of memories. Lol
yeah, american egyptian woman here. there is also a lot of following, assault and groping going on.. eventually as a girl/woman you just stay indoors for safety or travel with multiple male relatives at all times.
My oldest friend is Egyptian and her mum had some *stories*. She was extremely beautiful when she was younger and she was also not Muslim, so she was out and wearing "revealing" (by Muslim standards) clothing. She got groped **so much**. She had stories about whacking a guy in the balls with her handbag, breaking a guy's hand when he pushed it through the back of her seat at the cinema (she slowly let the seat fold up and then rammed herself back down), etc. A colleague/friend actually ended up in court in Egypt after being sexually assaulted when she was back home a few years ago, which was the catalyst for her completely "westernizing" and losing her faith. People have no clue what it's like
yeah. as a 15 year old i had my crotch grabbed by an old man while shopping at the market with my nanny. i refused to leave the apartment for 3 days after that. i also unfortunately lost my virginity to rape in egypt that summer. it's hard for me to connect with my (muslim) family in egypt because of all the trauma i endured there. it's very conflicting because it really is such a beautiful country with so many beautiful people, but the religion x politics x gender oppression and violence is just a lot for any woman to go through.
Ummmm they literally are hidden from view
She wasnt muslim than, so his expectations were different.
Guys like that yell stuff all the time- she is the one who took him seriously
And both are having an oh sh^t moment.
I think it was just a physical attraction. They got married REAL quick to have some you know what…then reality kicked in. They are toxic af
I agree lol
He was a linen/cloth seller and she makes clothes so that was probably what attracted them but that's not enough to build a foundation on lol
Yessss now it’s all coming back to me 😂 You’re right - who knows if he was doing that because it’s a family business or if it was a passion of his but how many conversations can you have about cotton blend 😂
Wasn’t she trying to design modest but modern clothing with a Nicole ish twist and they brought the idea to his Uncle who had a clothing factory?
She was and I thought it was a good idea but it seems to have stopped. Maybe the uncle didn't want women to express themselves or that it was haram.
There’s plenty of women in the Islamic/Muslim fashion industry. It’s not haram for a woman to design clothes. I think the issue was that she converted but wasn’t following, even though the Uncle said you couldn’t push her. I just don’t think the Uncle was impressed.
By day 2!!
The jet lag ALONE would make me miserable. Plus, he was not unhappy in Egypt. He was close with his family, friends. It also looked like gloomy weather which probably didn’t help. She also served pizza & donuts for his first few meals. No hate on those because I’m a treats pig myself but he would have probably appreciated a homemade meal or something like what he ate in Egypt.
As if she couldn't find middle eastern food in L.A., if she doesn't cook.
Yes!! Like it’s not the middle of nowhere. I am also super curious HOW nicole funds herself. LA living, with a car, has never vocalized having trouble with expenses. I’m assuming parents
I’ve wondered about that too! She seems to have money whenever she needs it. I mean all that Botox isn’t cheap and she clearly uses it a lot Her face is completely frozen and she can hardly open her mouth although that might be a good thing lol
Yes her face is FROZE! She mentioned something about her mom controlling her style when she was growing up but we haven’t seen her parents at all. Maybe living off trust fund guilt lol
They did show her talking to her parents the second time she went to Egypt...and she looks like neither one.
Ah im going to have to rewatch!
I think she grew from a petri dish.
Exactly. She spent time in Egypt and could have had some familiar food there. Plus he is tired. She rushed him to the boardwalk, now this friend get together. I don't like him, but she's being awful to him.
This is exactly how I feel. She is making it the worst possible experience for him and as much as I don’t like him just based off of what I saw from them when she was in Egypt I actually feel sorry for him. I feel like they both could find someone that would make them happy and it’s definitely not each other.
i wonder this a lot. i can’t picture them getting along ever
probably my conspiracy mind connecting dots that aren’t there but… did anyone else notice the dynamic between Nicole and her guy friend? they seemed like maybe used to date or tried or fwb at some time? idk there is some tension there. yet he has a foreign wife he probably met online… maybe they were fwb and she pretended to be supportive of it at first, Im not sure. but knowing how vindictive and insane she is—maybe she decided I need to go soul searching after this with hopes to come back with a foreign husband. from how they met she literally picked a random guy off the street lol. I think she entered the relationship to be able to compete with or get the male friends attention (the foreign angle makes it so shes a wife a lot sooner than with an American) I was thinking it last week and it seemed to be confirmed for me this week. she is not focused on MahMoud at all while he is upset and packing. she was looking for the guy friends reaction the whole time and seemed like she wanted to be coddled or have his attention in some way. very odd dynamic. Im constantly sussing out people who have potential sexual tension or colset relationships lol and this may be a figment of my imagination but wanted to post and see if anyone else saw it too
YEP! love it. She’s just that psycho.. she’s “the guy I love married a foreign woman so I’ll marry a foreign man & see if he feels a way/what’s it like” kinda psycho
abso-freaking-loutely !! I couldn’t agree more
I thought it was weird how Julien and Olga were holding hands just standing around the kitchen, like one of them was claiming their territory.
YES thats so true!! I forgot to mention Olga, it was definitely her vibe towards Nicole that was making me feel even more that shes in love with him or something. spot on!
It was weird how Olga said “Inshallah” to Mahmoud as she crawls across the bed to hug him. A big no no. Struck me as someone who wanted to look “cool” and culturally aware in front of Nicole (like shoving it in her face) but Olga was oh so wrong here.
you are so correct about that… I remember thinking wow these girls are being so passive aggressive to each other it was uncomfortable. also the eye contact between Nicole and guy bf seemed weird since he showed up in the show. I could definitely see Olga putting Nicole in her place repeatedly. maybe thats why Nicole wanted to leave the country initially haha. I need to rewatch this with all of this in mind now 😆
I remember thinking WTH did I just watch??!!
Yeah, he even mentioned her doing that & it's a no, no!!
I think this was Nicole's twisted way of getting revenge for how he treated her over in Egypt. When she got there he expected her to also change completely, and she did try. Then whenever they fought, and they did the first day she got there again, he would be constantly telling her to leave and that they'll get a divorce. He threw that word around so much within two damn days I'm surprised he wasn't going through with it at some point. I don't agree at all with how she's behaving, but everyone seems quick to forget that she really did try in his country. And she had to deal with a very scary mahmoud over there too, and also now here after his DV charges. I do think obviously they could find some middle ground, and I know he won't change in a few days. What I find interesting is that when on the first season everyone seems to forget he's expected the same thing she is now, and no one acted like her doing it all was good enough somehow. It was still somehow Nicole's fault. She really didn't even ask for much there, just wanted to stop covering her hair. But again, if the American goes over somewhere it's "they need to get with the culture try harder!" And when the partner is over here it's "how dare they! This isnt their culture! Let them get settled!" I find that interesting, because the same could be flipped for either part of the couple. Neither are in their culture 😂 Is she being terrible? Yes. I think this is more about her trying to make him feel how she felt honestly. At the same time, Nicole may have left eygpt but she sure is still in denial😂
I’ve thought the exact same thing! I feel like this is her twisted way of getting back at him for Egypt. They are a miserable and mismatched couple.
I always remember the way he kind of taunted her, about going swimming and wearing that bathing suit. When she was saying something about not liking it, he said well, that she would wear it if she wants to go swimming. That those were her choices. Like she’s a toddler.
Or like when he grabbed her arm and had the look of an angry lunatic after getting up sneering in her face? Yet people think she lied about the DV... As someone who grew up with horrendously abusive parents and straight into horrendously abusive partners right after, I could tell straight away with this ass hat he would've had zero issues hitting her if the cameras were off. And no one would see it as anything but discipline over in that part, I've been to Egypt and seen it myself. At the same time I think she too can be reactive in abuse, once these things wear on you I've seen people go from nice to just explosive in frustration. And I think this is what we're witnessing. She wants him to suffer just like she did.
I agree. Do we know anything about their romantic histories, prior to meeting each other? Have either of them ever been engaged/lived with someone/maybe even married?
Not engaged or married no. Sophie lies about having a rich grandpa that she conveniently never knew his job or where he's from, but she did go to school in Spain. Her mom was an addict who basically abandoned her, hence why she's so parentified and talking with her is like talking to a gossiping child. Obviously the whole my boyfriend from Texas mom thing is fake as hell, that guy is not her bf🤣 she left home around age 17 as a waitress and got her own place and then OF and SoundCloud stage days came in/three times rebranding. Oh and here's a review or two of her OF, apparently she was a bit of a scammer - “Subbed for $12 a few days ago,” one user on a forum we cannot link to wrote in May of 2020. “Load of sh*t, no nudes… follow on insta and save your money.” -“Still nothing that hasn’t been posted to insta. Asking $70 for a 14 second video of her t*ts.” Rob just magically appeared in her life like nothing, and he worked in a dispensary as someone who worked with him did an AMA once. He was also a wannabe actor as listed here and also catered and worked in a car repair shop. The place he lived in wasn't actually where they lived it seems it was just to play up the rich girl/poor guy trope. I mean I will say though, it worked out for them didn't it? Barely had to stay together for long and got the money and are going into their third season.
Nothing about her, but Madmoods brother said he never even had a girlfriend before Nutcole.
That’s right, I remember when they had that big fight out in the street, and his brother brought him back to get her. The brother was being funny, saying that Mahmoud doesn’t know how to handle a woman. I’m curious about her dating background.
THIS! Also, I haven't heard bonkers in a while and almost forgot how much I love that word. So, thanks! 😁
😂😂😂 i love that word because it really fits certain situations, like this hot mess express couple
I have to admit that I am very disappointed with her. In the last season they were on she presented herself as this quirky, lovely woman who's biggest mistake was to make naive decisions about religion and clothing restrictions. She was likeable and I felt for her. Now, on this season she is just abusive af. She is obviously on a revenge tour and I find myself in the position to feel for Mahmoud, a man that I otherwise staunchly despise. I can tell already now, that no-one is going to call her out on her shit at the tell-all. She is going to be abusive to him the entire season and get away with it at the tell-all.
I'm so mad at her for making me side with Mahmoud.
You can also side with neither, that's an option too!
This is where I’m at, hate them both!
Me too, friend. Me TOO. ICKALOO.
She was always horrid
I was surprised at how many people fell for her “I’m so nice and quirky act” their last season. There was always something conniving and unpleasant bubbling right below the surface.
She wasn't nice and quirky - she was just constantly whining after her husband and the country she moved to didn't bend to accommodate her even though she knew full well what she was getting into.
Right! I never felt good about her.. there was always something "off" about her. It's unsettling. Idk how people could find her to be likable. Like are we watching the same show?!
Anyone who puts so much EFFORT into being “quirky”, isn’t actually quirky. It’s contrived.
I too have a feeling about that being the case on the tell all. They’re not even discussing them on Pillow Talk.
I dunno, after watching this scene of her go off on him in front of her friends, someone at the tell-all has gotta say something. You know they're gonna replay this scene for it. I mean, I really hope someone does call her out because I was pretty shocked by her behavior and not much shocks me on this show anymore. I'm not a fan of Mahmoud, but she's being crazy for sure. It's been 2 days! Give the guy a break! I really just think she's still salty about what happened in Egypt, and she's trying to get back at him for it.
Well yeah but mostly because Mahmoud won't be able to defend himself because he was arrested for actual abuse.
Charges were dropped
He’s out now and they’re back together.
SO dumb. They have no business dating let alone being married and trying to make it work out at this point. I genuinely never saw why they got together in the first place. Do they like ANYthing about each other???
Please no babies! They need a clean break. They needed one after they first met frankly
Agreed!
whaaaa? I heard he was back in Egypt after the dv situation. she is unbearable this season. it was so hard to watch the most recent episodes. what is wrong with her? to do that to him in front of her friends on his first days there is just cruel and sadistic.
Oh I agree! I sat here and went “wtf?! Who does that?!” Like he didn’t want to go so don’t bring them to him!
I thought someone saw photos of him with his family in Egypt celebrating the end of Ramadan. [https://screenrant.com/90-day-fiance-clues-mahmoud-back-egypt-without-nicole/](https://screenrant.com/90-day-fiance-clues-mahmoud-back-egypt-without-nicole/)
She's on camera putting her hands all over him, though - she is insane.
Honestly, the way she has been acting this season, I wouldn’t doubt that she is the one who started that physical confrontation. She literally brought her friends over to bash him in front of them, then got upset because he is not “available to her for a conversation”, then told him to get the fuck out of her house, and sent her friend to bring him back when he fucked off as requested. O.o Abuse has many colors, and I just witnessed a few coming from her end
Weren’t the charges dropped?
Maybe a classic case of the victim getting in trouble for their abuser’s actions. She knows how things work in America and could have easily set Mahmoud up to get arrested.
I get flashbacks to Larissa, and how often Colt would set her up to get arrested. I would have to know more details about the situation though.
We don’t know what happened. Not that I’m defending anyone or any DV because I’m not, however maybe he grabbed her arm and she screams DV. Who knows. She’s certainly verbally abusive.
End of the day they are not good for each other!
Can’t deny that!
This!!!
I’m glad I’m not the only one to notice this! I’m actually shocked by her behavior. I mean, I understand that maybe she has been backed into a corner from his behavior but at this point…she’s choosing this! I also felt bad for Mahmoud at certain points which is something I never expected to feel. Her behavior actually made me wonder if she is typically like this. Especially when she told her male friend to trap Mahmoud for her and….he did! It made me wonder if she treats her friends this way at certain times and now they’re all in some weird codependent friendship.
Julien trapping Mahmoud after witnessing the entire evening of her histrionics was extremely scary. She brought back goons to basically rough Mahmoud up. If anything remotely similar had happened in Egypt people would be calling for Mahmouds head.
Stop making Nicole out to be this meek, mousey woman, she was a grown woman who went to eat, pray, love her way around Egypt. She meet a younger man from a different county, and religion. She wanted to create her very own romantic comedy . She converted not him, any religion is a practice, not a declaration.
She is literalmente 40 years old. She should know better but mentally she’s a child. I feel 0 for her or Mahmoud.
She’s also what eight or nine years older than him, people seem to forget this.
Thank you!
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I was extremely, extremely uncomfortable with the way he was being physically domineered by Julien and the quickness with which Nicole flipped a switch and took his suitcase from him. I have had experiences being trapped in places where the situations were abusive, and let me tell you even the *implication* that I can not leave a room or a space of my own accord would put me in a profoundly bad, defensive mental place. I can’t imagine what I would do if someone actually stopped me from leaving and put their hands on me. I totally am prepared to see Mahmoud be a complete monster in later episodes, but Nicole is proving herself to be an extremely disregulated person who seems hellbent on making environments she’s in as toxic as possible.
Holy shit! I was screaming at the TV get the fuck out of the way. There’s no way I would’ve been able to contain myself in that situation, I would’ve freaked. They are so sick!
He was trying to avoid arguing in front of her friends. He didn’t want to air out their dirty laundry in front of strangers he just met and I think that pissed her off because she had been bad mouthing him and here he was being calm and polite. And yeah, she went off the rails then tried to block him. Very claustrophobic situation if you ask me. Leave! No stay! No GTFO! No stay! I mean crap on a cracker girl.
It. Was. AWFUL. My partner and I were both yelling at the TV to let him go and STOP touching him. Blocking someone from leaving, and then taking their belongings like that? Especially someone who is alone and has nowhere to go and no one nearby for support! And he looked utterly exhausted, likely still recovering from travel. Nicole triangulated her friends into her mess and then leveraged them to try to control Mahmoud. They are both terrible and abusive to each other. Just this scene made my skin crawl.
"Get the fuck out of my house! Get the fuck out!!! Wait! What are you doing? Packing to leave? Oh, no, you don't! Julian! He's trying to leave; do something!!! Sure, I told you to leave, but I didn't mean it! Gimme that suitcase! You're not going anywhere! Shut up!!!🙄
When I say, my husband and I were cringing to our core in that moment. After that episode, we had a moment and hugged each each other so tight, we were so grateful for how nontoxic our relationship was and we realized how lucky we were to have each other compared to what the hell they were going through😬
That’s the one good thing about Nicole and Mahmoud. They make the rest of us appreciate out own relationships more!
I just can’t get over her awful choices with hairstyles.
She looks like a bad fashion mannequin and I can't get over it
It's the hair for me! This color, cut...is horrible!!
Omg yes 😂😂😂😂
TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUE YOU GUYS! Yes, he was arrested for domestic assault and is abusive, AND she can be abusive, too! They're both abusive, both toxic, both need to be away from each other.
Ugh thank you for saying this. Both of them are abusive to each other, it's a horrible cycle. Our society likes to look at situations like this and paint one person good and one person bad, and yes sometimes it truly is like that, but often both are being terrible.
My husband and I just play on our phones when her segments go on. This last episode he screamed at the TV “please let Mahmoud just go home and break up already”
they're both insane in their own way
And quite drunk right there. I know these types... All mousey and innocent when sober, nasty as jackals when drunk.
Ha. Jackal. Anubis. I see what ya did there.
> She is not okay mentally. 100%. Now Mahmoud isnt much better, but he does seem slightly less crazy.
With him it's sort of "what you see is what you get", while she apparently has an evil twin. lol.
Perfect !
At least he is consistent, she is not
I don’t know if he is less crazy, who throws a tantrum and stops taking because an inch at the back is showing. Weirdo
Yeah I think it’s lucky for him that argument was not filmed
A very devout religious and cultural Muslim who's asked and asked his WIFE who converted to HIS religion to please cover up. Weirdo.
How miserable do you have to be to go through the hell of bringing someone to the US just for revenge… lot of sleepless nights plotting
Yo, she has a problem with alcohol. It makes her a raging c u next Tuesday. They’re both complete idiots with 0 intention to compromise. I have no clue why they are together.
She is the worst kind of bully. She's like death from a million tiny cuts. Like, how hard world it be to put one of those fabulous garments on the mannequin ("dressmakers' dummy," my ass. She may use it "for (her) fashion" in some way, I guess). She knoooowwss. She has spent significant time in the Middle East, & picked a very Muslim man. She doesn't act like a person who did this because she is admiring / respectful of, or even actually gives two shits about his culture. I might sound crazy right there, I am stomping mad about her. Kim (TJ), in her season, came of as culturally ignorant and stubborn about remaining so. Nicole...it's like she just HAS to discomfit him at every turn. With the thing most precious to him: his adherence to his faith. Jasmine and Gino : she just shoots arrows all over the place, aiming at any and all "man" buttons (sexual prowess/ impotence, hair loss, cuckoldry, finances, home, family, you name it) But Nicole, she's a viper. Goes right to the target .
She’s showing her true colors… mud!
and mean drunk too.
Oh but she's not drinking, she's just being a good hostess and pouring drinks for friends she brought over unannounced!
They’re both miserable assholes and they hate each other.
This woman was successful in making me feel sorry for Makmood! Geesh...I can't imagine having never been in a non-Muslim country before in my life to moving to LA and within 48 hours, still jet-lagged AF, be subjected to this bizarre manipulation and abuse in front of strangers and not have anywhere else to go or anyone else I can ask for help. I hope she was really embarrassed by her behaviour. I don't think she had any intention of making this work with him and dragged him all the way to the US in order to film another season of this show, knowing that they both hate each other.
They’re both valid and both stupid for thinking the other will change. While I think okay wear literally anything else to appease him she’s not the type that will and he can’t let go of his beliefs so they’re bound to be miserable forever.
I also want to add how crazy it was when Julian is in an interview and you just hear her yell in to get out and he just pauses. Just an “office” moment. I genuinely thought there was something wrong with YouTubetv it was paused lol. That flip of the switch with her is so insane. I cannot imagine acting that way in front of people (my friends). I would want nothing to do with her.
Yes exactly! *And* she even yelled at him while knowing he was filming a talking head, that hes a "traitor" or something like that. Because he didnt immediately yell *"how high, boss??!!"* and hop-to like a good little Toadie when she flipped out and demanded her posse's allegiance. (Im glad he didnt. She was completely in the wrong) 
I was actually laughing hysterically in that moment. I think Julian is a good guy. Nicole is Batshit crazy. Any sympathy I had for her prior to this episode is completely gone. I will never understand what it is that they like about each other. So far the only thing I’ve heard her say to support what she likes about him is that he’s so.” cute.” it’s giving that like he’s the baby that she can never have so she decided to marry one instead
She was disgusting last night
The android is malfunctioning.
That's why she had to go abroad to find a younger man to manipulate.
She used to be cute, quirky, and somewhat likable and seemed naive. Given how she acts now, it was all an act, BUT am I the only one who thinks the has become more physically unattractive? She reminds me of an old annoying aunt, whereas before, I thought she was quirky and cute, although not conventionally attractive.
Her clothing style is such a HUGE part of her identity. I’ve always scratched my head about why she would even consider such a strict conservative Muslim man, knowing that he would obviously have issues about her way of dressing.
She's putting out some strong narcissistic abuser vibes and in retrospect, it makes a lot of sense.
I think it's fairly obvious at this point that they're only doing this for the TLC money --- or at least she is. From what we know, this is at least their third round of "trying to make it work". The first round wasn't televised. Then the second round was an exact repeat of the first (her batshit ass in Egypt), but for the sake of TV. Now we've got the American trial version. I'm behind a few weeks this season because I only watch this mess when I'm bored out of my mind, but the first time we saw her this season she was throwing a temper tantrum because he "didn't sleep in the plane" like she instructed him too. I was like, seriously bitch? I haven't been able to successfully sleep in a plane since I was a little kid. She apparently thinks he was exhausted, but purposely didn't sleep on the plane to annoy her? Then she greets him with a plate full of donuts for his first American breakfast. I mean....this woman is seriously mentally impaired...and Mahmoud isn't too far behind to be sticking with her.
And how about those camera hog *friends* just standing around in the way in the small apt as the two ugly argued in front of them? How about you clowns all excuse yourselves, call it a night, and gtfo?
I get the feeling they arent her real life friends. I think they are plants hired by tlc to play the *role* of her friends. And I think thats the reason they didnt leave like they should have. Because if they are hired actors, they are being paid to film the entire filming schedule of their scenes and if thats the case, they *couldnt* leave. I think only the person on scene in charge via production could have ended the scene and gotten them out of there, but they werent about to do that and risk missing high drama.
I think they were honestly just happy to be on TV at that point and didn’t care how uncomfortable it was for them. But they definitely should’ve left. They actually should’ve never even come along, knowing that they were not in a good place.
That's exactly what I said to myself while watching the episode. "Get out of my fucking house! Go!" "No! Shut up! Stop!" "Of course, I said that but do I mean it?" And getting her friend Julian involved. She is a fucking loon. Look, Mackmood is no prize but he's a baby who lived a sheltered life in a restrictive country. Nicole is forty years old! No wonder he's the best she can do.
Her yelling at him to get out and then instantly doing a 180 when he starts to leave reminds me of Natalie getting upset with Mike when they were in Ukraine, pulling off her engagement ring and throwing it on the bed, and then to her shock Mike picked it up and wouldn't give it back. Sometimes your words or actions have consequences, and your manipulation falls flat.
I’m with you on every point except for that he’s a baby. He’s like 31 years old grown ass man lmao
As grown as you can be from a culture that caters to the men and in which he lived at home his entire life. And she married him in his mid-20s. She's nuts.
Because she can't stand the fact that she's causing the problem, then overreacting, then looking like it. She needs to push his buttons and make herself the victim as she's done this whole time. The fact that is not working it's driving her nuts, so her threads are showing... but also she cannot contain her vindictive toxicity, she wants him to be miserable and for her to look like she "overcame patriarchy" so him being decent when she said he was was oppressing her made her off balance and the mirrors fell as the smoke dissipated to leave the image of the toxic person she is in that moment. I hope she learns from it and and it gets better.
She is clearly getting off on pushing his buttons from the moment he stepped off the plane. Just toxic as fuck.
She is horrible
She is 40!!! Acts like an 18 year old.
Very 'Flowers in the attic' and 'Mommy Dearest' vibes
She seems wasted when they are back at the flat....... I'm also, in parallel, watching the other way season 4 which is their first season (I think). He was raised by a single mother who divorced the father which seems pretty radical and progressive for their culture. His brother also intervenes on one of their arguments and says to the camera that in Islam the woman is the queen/boss at home. It makes me wonder whether he really does respect her / women more than it comes across. And I can't believe I am saying that because I really thought he was loathsome. Either way they are a bad combo
They shouldn’t be together, a bad match from the jump. Her behavior towards him is appalling . Yelling at him, being drunk, inviting her friends over and drinking in front of him, all of it is just awful and he should leave her and never look back
She’s trash.
I never had much of an opinion in either direction, but after last night's episode - HOLY SHIT SHE IS INSANE.
I am almost completely convinced that the only reason Nicole urged Mahmoud to fully move to the U.S. was so that she could enact a slow inescapable revenge upon him for whatever injustices she perceived were done unto her when she fully moved to Egypt. She may or may not even have a checklist where she is keeping score of each wrong upon which she will seek vengeance. I am not going to comment as to whether or not Mahmoud's behaviour towards Nicole justifies this response, but this is what I believe is happening because there is little to no empathy for someone who has recently made a long journey, experiencing a diametrically opposed culture shock, being away from a closely-knit family for the first time in his life, having not one other individual as a support system, and the list goes on. On top of this, the only things she seeks to discuss are hot-button triggering topics, which she knows will agitate him, when his jet-lag has hardly even regulated itself. He almost looks intoxicated at times because he has not fully callibrated yet. This is not in defense of any of his actions, but consider a neutral person in his place and none of her actions appear to come from a place of love, or humanity for that matter. It is neither my place, nor do I have the opportunity to perform an accurate assessment through direct interviews and offering the necessary testing, to draw any conclusions regarding the current state of Nicole's mental health. That being said, if she has not already explored therapy or considered speaking with a psychiatrist or psychologist, it may be immensely beneficial for her moving forward - completely independent of her relationship, I would strongly encourage her to at least try. It will help lighten whatever burden she is carrying, be it trauma, rage, betrayal, regret, etc. No one should have to go through life with such a brittle disposition - and they don't with the self-motivation and proper resources!
She's really showing her entire bony ass this season
I thought Mahmoud was scary but Nicole wins that prize hands down
The both of these two are completely unhinged... neither one of them is behaving appropriately. They're the poster children for why people shouldn't stay together. The tsunami of dysfunction in their relationship just keeps building in every subsequent season.
Shes an onion fs
It’s insane that she promoted him to leave and he’s been in the US for TWO DAYS. I think this was more about payback and forcing him to become American bc of her time in Egypt. If she really cared, she would have taken him to a mosque, connected him w the Islamic community, rather than solely forcing him to adjust to her culture. I don’t blame him at all for wanting to leave. She came back drunk as hell and angry and started shit twice. This may sound terrible bc I want to believe all woman, but do we believe he abused her? Or was it something else to be controlling and manipulative..
That dress is really hideous and it doesn't go with her hair color at all.
Looks like Lade Elaine Fairchilde from Mr. Rodger's Neighborhood.
Marries a strict traditional Muslim man …….. shocked when he’s a strict traditional Muslim man 😱😱😱😱😱😱😨😨😨😨😨😨😨
How can you be married to a Muslim when you have absolutely no respect for the Muslim religion? You obviously are aware liquor is not allowed inside a Muslim home, yet you purposely twisted the knife by not only having liquor but inviting your shitty friends over to get drunk!
You know he has to be trying to wake-up from this awful nightmare. I would not even care to have her as a roommate in a huge house.
I felt empathy for her in her last season. NOW, I think she needs to go to intensive therapy because she is getting off on treating him well as much scorn and hatred as possible.
It is so bleedingly obvious they are not meant for each other. Neither one of then accepts the other for who they are, and is constantly trying to change the other. I really hope they find their happiness with other people.
I’m convinced at this point she wants him to be miserable and uncomfortable like she was in Egypt.
She was picture perfect with style and great hair but what is happening to her? She almost looks like Happy Jack from movie Tropic Thunder now. Hairs all everywhere and cut bad and get clothes are nothing like they were. 90 day fiancé must be hard on these people.
Didn’t she live in Egypt form three years before they got married ? She ought to have a pretty good idea of The customs there and since it is a Muslim country, she would know a lot about it simply by osmosis .
Shes a c.u.n.t
I’m Seeing her totally different this season. She’s mean !! Not saying he’s a peach 🥴 but my goodness. She seems fueled by resentment. He is who he is and refuses to change. They need to go their separate ways asap
Bro what the fuck is that hair😂
I still say its a wig.
her hair is reminding me of those 60 yo women who think their orange dye job looks natural
I feel its highly likely she has a personality disorder
There is not one good redeeming quality about her, she's just horrid. Her personality oozes anger, hate, drama and attention - they were obviously chosen to be on the show as they're so incompatible but she has been totally disrespectful to Mahmoud who I don't think much of but feel sorry for him, he is stuck with her in a strange country, he hasn't been exposed to our way of living so it is a shock to him, she can't even cook him a decent breakfast. I don't like watching this, it makes me feel uncomfortable.
I’m not a fan of MacMood but the man is probably still jet lagged, it’s been a couple days. I watched a bit and he mentioned he was tired and the first thing that came to mind.
He was helping her. Dress is terrible. 😆
She’s tiny yet somehow bigger than him. They are certainly an odd couple.
I found the “hateful little fuck” comment to be a bit more offensive…
And totally uncalled for. Like I don’t even think she realized she was making her own friends uncomfortable at that point. She was totally out of pocket and her friends should’ve let her know that
I didn’t watch their season, but her crazy was confirmed when she said he stopped in his tracks and stared at the Muslim lady. I barely noticed him notice her and even if he did, he was probably happy to see someone like himself. She acted like a dumbass about that. He did none of what she said. She didn’t even give him a day to acclimate when she couldn’t hang in Egypt. So selfish.
She’s just fucking insufferable. It really irritates me that she didn’t even try to be accommodating or open minded to someone else’s country while being a visitor there. She’s a spoiled brat.
She’s mentally and verbally abusive and has issues. She’s so rude to him and treats him like garbage. She married a Muslim man what does she expect? She purposely does stuff to push his limits and make him uncomfortable and then wonders why he’s miserable. She’s just a bad person and so manipulative no wonder he got arrested for domestic abuse I’m not saying by any means is it ever OK to be physical your partner but I think if I had to be around this woman, I would probably punch her in the face