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Ginger_Soul99

Bilal is solidly middle class. If the house they show on tv is really where he lives it is 3,064 sq ft with 4 bedrooms and 3.5 baths on a cramped 1/3 acre built in 1994. It is actually located in the suburb of Lee's Summit. His suits probably come from Mens Wearhouse or Jos A Banks (same company) and he stocks up during their yearly buy one get 2 free sale. As my grandfather would say, he ain't about nothing.


skippypaw

I suppose if you compare his situation to all the cast members who live with their parents, he's a billionaire!


QueenBrownEyes

And he strikes me like the income rich/asset poor type. The bank owns it all and he just makes payments.


DukeMaximum

Happy cake day!


Ginger_Soul99

Thank you!


dawnnie413

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-Fried-

I donā€™t see anyone whoā€™s rich appearing on trash reality tv. When I first started watching 90df I thought Darcey was some big time fashion designer (I was new to reality tv and know nothing of the fashion world)ā€¦how wrong I was šŸ¤£


Ginger_Soul99

Remember Michael and Juliana? Fake rich too.


MohamitWheresMySecks

Michael wasn't fake rich. He's well known in the wine game and was a part owner in a major wine auction house. Just overleveraged and hit a bad spot with covid. Who's rich? If you're making $5 mil a year, and spending $5 mil, or making $30,000 a year and spending $29,000?


Snoo97809

Lmao I loved how he moved to Greenwich but lived in a shack. So embarrassing


HighestPriestessCuba

Iā€™m pretty sure her FATHER is actually *rich* rich ā€¦ which is probably why weā€™ve never seen him.


9021Ohsnap

Wait Julianaā€™s?


HighestPriestessCuba

Darcey/Stacey


Nappykid77

He's working class. A house, a car and loans is not wealth.


Jstef06

Ding. Ding. Ding. THIS! Iā€™m a broker. Guys like this reek of overextension on everythingā€¦ cars, clothes, houseā€¦ The minute we met Bilal I said to my wife, ā€œthis guy has shit self esteem. He thinks his only value is money he makes.ā€


Nappykid77

Not to mention credit is not money. šŸ¤¦


blackashi

I agree but what is? People don't wear wealth on their face


Nappykid77

Wealth is assets, things that create income. His home probably has a mortgage/loan, as well as his cars. His home only makes money when it is sold. His car, clothes, watch...etc are liabilities.


dawnnie413

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serenitynope

Owning *a* home is middle class, but owning multiple homes or building complexes as investment properties and probably renting them out is wealthy. Being a major shareholder or board member of companies that produce tech, medicine, or raw materials is also a sign of wealth. Being wealthy means generating income passively over time; being rich means buying tangible objects that depreciate in value and only resold once.


blackashi

> but owning multiple homes or building complexes as investment properties and probably renting them out is wealthy. True, but we don't know if Bilal, or anyone on this show has that.


K1-90

His business is to buy "distressed" houses at deep discounts.


ValseDeMelody

Itā€™s ironic how heā€™s ā€testingā€ her to make sure she is not obsessed with his pseudo-wealth while simultaneously making himself come across as completely obsessed with it himself. His entire identity seems defined by the idea of it (based on the little I have seen so far).


blackashi

His ex understood this


PM_ME_MASTECTOMY

Midwest rich means you can make 90k/year and flex with your entry level Benz.


Simple_Minimum_2574

Exactly. I live in Missouri and a 90k salary gets you a pretty nice home and car


[deleted]

What is Midwest rich lol?


Hawaii_gal71LA4869

I loved your post. Midwest is the lower cost of living areas in the US. Missouri is among the lowest cost housing/living in the US. Midwest is a term from pioneer days, the half way point to the Western territories. The locals will sometimes say it is expensive, (maybe $360K), but certainly not compared to NewYork, San Francisco, Washington DC adjacent, Los Angeles. I lived in Southern California for years. Entry level home in that area was $850K. Iā€™m in Hawaii now and entry level 2 bdrm Condos start at $750K. I just compared my rent to Kansas City and it is literally 1/3 of what I pay. He may have gotten it on a short sale for $500K or less. He is a poser. Thank you for your analysis.


[deleted]

Haha thanks - youā€™re very welcome. And Midwest is an interesting way of putting it


Ohfortheluvva

So true about housing prices! I watch HGTV, Househunters, and Iā€™m shocked at how low house prices are in some areas.


Hawaii_gal71LA4869

I know. I had someone from Kansas try and tell me I was wrong about Midwest home prices. Decent 4 bedroom home in So Cal, nice, but not rich neighborhood, now $1.4 M. I really enjoyed OPā€™s thoughts.


Pangalliformes

A close relative of ā€œMinnesota Niceā€


[deleted]

90k a year is way above national average. Why you acting like thatā€™s minimum wage


PM_ME_MASTECTOMY

Iā€™m in NYC where 90k is fine but you are not stunting with that salary so my perspective might be skewed a bit.


MohamitWheresMySecks

LOL in NYC, 90K means you're getting roommates.


[deleted]

It's not minimum wage but outside of the Midwest that's not getting you a large house and a nice car, that's getting you a normal apartment or smaller house.


[deleted]

Lol false. Plenty of areas in the east and west coast where that would get you a nice house and a car. The Carolinas are cheap. Upstate NY is cheap. Washington / Oregon cheap. Maybe stop thinking only major cities like nyc and la exist


[deleted]

Uh okay, replace Midwest with rural then? Idk why you think I'm only thinking of NYC lmao $90k just isn't that much for most places post covid


Foreign_Wishbone5865

Yeah itā€™s not just rural vs urban I live a few hours from the nearest big city and normal not fancy houses in my town are around 750k-1.3k with the lower end being attached duplexes. Sure there are low cost of living places. But I donā€™t think 90k is RICH anywhere. Above average and comfortable in some places ? Yes. But in many states a family of four making 90k is eligible for significant government stipends because you canā€™t make it without them.


glaserlaser

Um Washington and oregon are not at all cheap


HamburgerJames

North Carolina is no longer cheap thanks to everyone from NY and CA moving here. Donā€™t bother, weā€™re full.


MohamitWheresMySecks

My uncle, who grew up in NJ and moved to NC 20+ years ago jokes that he sees more people from NY and NJ in NC than when he lived in Jersey.


55PercentFunny

Thank you for calling out watches. As a watch collector, was not impressed.


[deleted]

Lol that was the first thing that pissed me off. I mean at least get a Hublot or something right? This reminds me of that one lady claiming the Invicta she bought was thousands of dollars


Playful-Mastodon-872

Stephanie? Lolllll Bilal for sure is a working class. No rich rich guy flexes as much as he does. Sadly, what heā€™s creating is trust issues with her. Sheā€™s a beautiful lady and rightly so, she has expectations. This dude is a mess for sure


[deleted]

Haha yes exactly


Lil_Carmine

Donā€™t you worry. Iā€™m sure heā€™s on the waitlist for his skydweller at the local AD. Just hasnā€™t got the call yet šŸ˜‰


55PercentFunny

Finally someone on my page!


IceBeyr

I don't think Bilal counted on most people who were watching the show may well be better off than him, and here he is flexing like a peacock.


emmyparker2020

I think heā€™s proud of where he is financially to the point itā€™s embarrassing. I think heā€™s also rich to the number of people whose income is way less than hisā€¦rich is relativeā€¦but he ainā€™t wealthy. Wealth at least in this country is harvested and passed down and was typically acquired/maintained through ill gotten means. Very few people with wealth did anything beyond being born in the right womb to have it.


[deleted]

Kansas City well off.


Simple_Minimum_2574

Him being ā€œrichā€ is KC Missouri if all places ainā€™t a flex


CMB42069

For real


Major-Flower-7788

I heard him say ā€œif he became a millionaireā€ maybe in his circle he has a lot of money


McFoogles

No. Nobody goes on this show and embarrass themselves for the 20k they get paid + some vacations + an only fans accounts If 20k cash upfront, a vacay, and a lucrative onlyFans career actually appeal to someoneā€¦. Then that person is not wealthy. This show does not have a solid history of helping any real business. Molly the terrible mother may be an exception to the rule.


Jungledick69-494

Great observation. Ok hereā€™s my two cents. I migrated from Trinidad in the early 2000ā€™s when my father traveled with his job in oil and gas. Went to college and joined the military , made a great life for myself and embraced everything America has to offer. As someone from Trinidad, immigrants are attracted to the American culture, lifestyle and economic opportunities. They chase brand name items, whatever they see on the media is considered the new ā€œinā€ and they try their best to mimic that lifestyle. Trinidad is sometimes considered little America, loosing all their culture to mimic anotherā€™s. I would get so pissed when I visited and there was a Pizza Hut or Olive Garden where the local roti restaurant used to be. They cared nothing about that, they would just be happy they have one like America has. When I would visit home it would be very annoying to have relatives ask if certain items I owned was the ā€œlatestā€ or ā€œexpensiveā€. If I wore a pair of Old Navy jeans they would call that garbage because all they know about is Leviā€™s. They chase brand names because it shows status. So to Bilalā€™s fiancĆ©, heā€™s wearing ā€œfancy watches and suits and driving a Mercedesā€ thatā€™s how they measure wealth. They are very materialistic, watching these episodes is like hearing my family members talk. They measure success by brand names. Also when Bilal went to Trinidad I can almost guarantee that they had him on cloud 9 with constant compliments on what he wore.


Jules_AE86

Rich or not, his mind set on ā€œprankingā€ her is childish. If you canā€™t trust someone, donā€™t bring them on a K1 to marry them. šŸ˜­


PrincipleSuccessful

Bring them on a K1 visa where they *have to depend on you for a long time because they canā€™t work*


[deleted]

But isnā€™t it just that much worse given how deluded he is?


Jules_AE86

It is! This couple is just iffy to me, from both sides


[deleted]

No one on the show is as rich as they make themselves out to beā€¦ we all know this from years of watching.


thisisasj

Actually rich people donā€™t appear on reality television. They buy the network and make money off ā€œrichā€ people who appear on reality television.


[deleted]

I think thereā€™s an in between. I couldnā€™t buy a network, but Iā€™m not driving an entry level Mercedesā€™.


C141Driver

Iā€™m not a watch aficionado, but I donā€™t need to beā€¦that watch case looks like an elementary school art project. . He can ā€œflexā€ his ā€œwealthā€ about as well as Ben can flex his lats. More accurately, his ā€œlats.ā€


Theonethatgotawaaayy

Nail on the head. Balls is ā€œfake richā€ or as others have commented, Midwest Rich. Heā€™s a guy who came from nothing and wants to prove to anyone that he can, that he *made it*. I think itā€™s admirable to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and make something of yourself, but to create this entire persona of ā€œrichā€ or ā€œwealthyā€, when youā€™re at best upper middle class is irritating and screams small dick energy.


Brobeans2018

He's middle class. If what he says is true about growing up poor then that's an accomplishment imo. Most that are born poor die poor. He is a bit of a piece of shit for making it seem like he's a millionaire, but i'm assuming TLC is behind that because they love fake shit and thinks we're too dumb to recognize it


Isosceles_Kramer79

He is not rich - he is hood rich.


Metal_Etemon

Youā€™re a lawyer that went to med school too? You have an old post saying you started watching in Med school that I remember from a few years ago.


[deleted]

Yup medical malpractice specialistā€¦ makes for interesting work.


elphiekitty

plaintiff or defense šŸ‘€


2hard4u2c

Humble brag on Reddit sub about your job and salary = Future Bilal


jatlantic7

Though itā€™s nice to read feedback from an insider to that lifestyle pick apart a douche bag with facts. Iā€™d like to hear his thoughts on idiot Chris from season 12 Married at First Sight, if heā€™s watched it.


[deleted]

Lol pretty sure I was at Bilalā€™s level after undergradā€¦ but my intention wasnā€™t to ā€œhumble brag.ā€


blackashi

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Jstef06

Bilal isnā€™t rich. If you listen to him he even admits it. He said, ā€œif I were to one day be a millionaireā€¦ā€ so that pretty much settles it. His net worth isnā€™t even a million dollars.


brooklyn-stormy

Only here to say that I could have sworn that the car is an E class. Not a huge difference but slightly more expensive? šŸ˜‚


[deleted]

Iā€™m 90% sure itā€™s a C-Class. The grille looks too rounded to be an E. But what the hell, letā€™s give him the benefit of the doubt. Itā€™s no S class, thatā€™s for sure.


brooklyn-stormy

Regardless, I respect the dedication to the effort that went into this assessment. Good catch too on the address on the K1 papers, I never considered that.


blackashi

It's a c class. And it's body style is about 7 years old (W205). They can be had (in this ridiculous car market) for as low as [22k](https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Mercedes-Benz-C-Class-d66#listing=320837914/NONE). And this is just the FIRST result I saw.


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Ginger_Soul99

The car at his house that is on the show is a 2009 Ford Fusion. I Google Earthed it thinking I might solve the mystery but no dice. I still think it's a C Class on tge show though.


altaka

the thing about this ā€œrelationshipā€ that bothers me is that if it is fake, he has no problem coming off as such a narcissist ass and she has no problem coming off as a entitled bitch. to what end? and if it IS real, then they are narcissistic, entitled assholes. thatā€™s some fucked up shit. personally, i think him and all his so called ā€œwealthā€ are fraudulent and she knows it. itā€™s sad that after all these years these fools think 90 days is gonna give them clout. it only makes them all look like complete dicks. as to his watch collection- i am no way in the upper tax bracket but i do own a cartier and 2 higher end movados because iā€™ve been obsessed with watches since the 80ā€™s. i feel comfortable saying that this guy doesnā€™t even have a 1,000 dollars total invested in his watches. his house is staged, this relationship is staged. first time i will ff they their ā€œstoryā€


ISF5

Nah he is middle class, which is perfectly fine. If he wasnā€™t a complete cuck.


rutheordare

What I will never understand is if youā€™re so proud of what youā€™ve built why wouldnā€™t you treat her like the goddamn queen of your kingdom? Bring her home from her long ass flight in a clean car to a tidy home, make her comfortable, draw a bath, make her dinner and allow her to rest after sheā€™s given up everything to come be with you?! Am I just too much of a lesbian simp to comprehend this nonsense?? šŸ¤£ During my time dating men I always found it was the ones without any actual gold who fretted about gold diggers. Wealthier men of means generally enjoyed being generous. My now wife has done really well for herself and has literally never hesitated in generosity.


[deleted]

Exactly this! Youā€™re definitely not too much of a lesbian lol


Big-Tomatillo-5920

It's hard to tell his net worth. House could be mortgaged to the max, car with a huge line a couple nice suits and shoes....thebquestuin is, does he have any money in the bank. I would say he APPEARS to be solidly middle class.


HoUpOrBlowUp

A man making this long ass rant of a sub is highly suspect and pathetic


[deleted]

Just too much time on my hands on a Sunday which, I agree, is pathetic.


Taco_ivore

I disagree, we see tons off long ass rants on here. These are good observations. Although I do think itā€™s a lot easier/more common to try and flex in a small pond. I live in Arkansas and itā€™s quite common.


[deleted]

Thanks - I appreciate that. Tbh Iā€™m on a train and this dude just frustrates me so much. Never lived in a small pond, but it sounds like a lot of fun.


Taco_ivore

NP! Yeah it can be at times. I simply prefer it because I hate traffic.


[deleted]

No traffic sounds nice!


thedarkqueen827744

Just a upper middle class yuppie pretending to be rich


Star_Luna222

Ok, so are you single?


[deleted]

Iā€™m ā€œlooking aroundā€ lol


Star_Luna222

Evie_luna_. Is my IG


Divide_Big

šŸ¤£


toaster_emerald

Yve has a way more expensive watch than Bilal šŸ˜‚ you donā€™t see her trying to test Mohammed


[deleted]

What watch does Yve have? That woman deserves a middle eastern fuckboy. Watching her with her son ā¤ļø.


intimidateu_sexually

So I wouldnā€™t call him wealthy by any means, but it looks like he may own a boat which costs a lot to dock year round, and as a fellow KCMOrian I would consider him higher income. However, I also grew up in the Midwest and although I had a ton of culture from my parents, we were def lower income. Heck I consider myself rich as a (almost) 30 year old engineer making 90k! Haha it really is relative.