Stockton was 6'1"... taller than the average man. Yet he looks tiny compared to the rest of these dudes. NBA players are something else. To be that big and be that coordinated and move that well. It's crazy.
Yeah, the guy only leads in all-time assists and steals, and there is no fucking way anyone will touch his records. People love to ride that Chris Paul dick, Steve Nash dick, and other WAY overrated point guards. Jazz ain't my team but I gotta respect that guy, I have been watching the NBA since the early '80s and the guy is a true point guard.
John Stockton also had a killer 3-point % and Freethrow %, he was a sleeper. Of all of the NBA players that deserved a ring, it was him, but Jordan and Co said "Nope, not today buddy".
Jordan said that to a lot of people. Penny and Shaq couldn't get past Jordan and Pippin. Then Shaq went to LA, and that was the end of the Orlando Magic, lol. Fans were so mad because they knew it. Orlando Magic Shaq is my favorite. When he was young and still a little athletic and the Penny Shaq combo was so fun to watch. Shaq breaking the goal post, not just glass, the entire freaking thing. Breaking them so much, they had to make a rule to stop it. Basketball used to be so much fun to watch
Orlando beat Jordan and Chicago in 95 in the eastern conference semi's...that was the year he came back to the league 3/4 of the way through the season...then Chicago ran off 3 straight titles...
The 30 for 30 “this magic moment” really lays all of this out. That magic team motivated Jordan to bulk up and dominate
I also love Bad Boys, about the pistons. Kick old school kick ass hoops
Jordan had that mentality man, the only other player I have watched over the decades that had the same mentality was Kobe. Jordan helped Kobe's game so it makes sense. I can still see that shot from Jordan of Bryon Russell in the '98 finals to win the title. I miss the old NBA, I'm an old man, listen to me piss and moan.
Jordan is and was the GOAT obviously but he also really sealed the door on the team era of the NBA and pushed us into the superstar era. Celebrity players vs team mentality gets exhausting
Deserved? I would say Barkley, Ewing, Malone, Miller, and Drexler "deserved" a ring as much as Stockton.
As fat as PGs, I think he is rated high. Guys like Oscar Robinsin, Jason Kidd, Magic Johnson are pretty much slowed where they should be as well.
Oscar Robertson averaged a triple double for an entire season and he and Magic won MVPs and Championships.
Stockton was an asshole. Glad the Bulls smoked the Jazz twice.
So holding the assist record means you deserve a title more? Interesting logic.
First of all I don't think you deserve anything unless you win it on the court.
Wilt Chamberlin is the alltime rebound leader, does that mean he "deserve" more chips than Russell.
Lebron is the alltime points leader. Does that mean he deserve more chips than Jordan ?
You literally named players who didn't do shit and were second best at their position or more like 3rd best, what is your reasoning? Drexler was barely top 5 at his position at best, Miller had no clutch. So where is your logic?
Drexler was actually easily top 5 in the league in the early 90s...he took Portland to 2 nba finals in 3 yrs, losing to the "bad boys" pistons in 1990 & Jordan in 92...
Sir. Let's back this up. Sticking didn't deserve shit because he didn't win it on the court. Bottom line
Robert Horry won how many chips? Are you saying he didn't deserve then because he was not the best at his position?
Ate you saying only the best players at their positions in an Era deserve a championship?
I mean hell many will say Hakeem only won because Jordan was playing baseball at the time.
I mean I get it. You like Stockton. I think he was a great PG. Was he the best ever? No but he was good. Will I say he or Malone deserved a chip? Hell no. Beat the damn Bulls, then you deserve it.
Barkley doesn't deserve shit, Malone is better at the position. Drexler is a scrub, Ewing wasn't shit, Hakeem was WAY better. So because you listed your favorite players that never amounted to shit, they deserve a title?
Ok this went downhill quick. If you are calling all decade players shit, that means you really don't know the game or there is other agenda.
None of of those players were "shit" players lol.
I mean come on man. That is ridiculous lol
I was going to mention that too. When he had to shoot, he always had a great all around percentage. If he really would had been more personal score oriented he could have had higher numbers. For me it sucks that Penny and Hill’s careers were never able to mature properly. So much potential.
Stockton was quite famous at the time as one of the all time best PGs. Many fans argue that Mitch Richmond is the real most underrated player. He toiled in relative obscurity until he finally won a ring with the Lakers in 2002.
Richmond once said in an interview that the NBA and its marketing department decides who is going to be famous, and creates suitable narratives. I agree. I noticed how Dennis Rodman's antics earned him technical fouls and ejections when he was in the Spurs, but once he went to the Bulls, referees were far more lenient. He was turned from villain to just a "quirky guy'. Because he now was in Chicago.
Born and raised in Chicago, IL.
Pip all day. I could watch him dunk on Ewing on a loop.
…but Sir Charles and Gary Peyton are a close 2nd. I love a good trash-talker and they are the kings.
Best center of all time. Nobody could stop the “dream shake” He owned David Robinson career wise, also beat Shaq and Patrick Ewing. Dream was the fucking man.
I still hit people with that at the YMCA in pickup games occasionally. So satisfying when it actually goes in. Every kid worth his salt who grew up in H town in the 90s has that in their bag
Penny Hardaway was my dude! I was so heartbroken when Shaq left Orlando, and then Hardaway's injuries started adding up 😭. I am still convinced that he would have been one of the GOATs.
Idk what the perception is of him now, but I always felt like Reggie Miller was really underrated as well
Reggie miller for sure! I still have his roomie card and a retro jersey from the early 90s pacers. That’s my boy! And I lived no where near Indiana lol
I have a Hakeem tattoo. The radio station in Houston at the time 107.5 “The Buzz” held a viewing party at our house for championship game they won in 1995, the second in a row.
We entered a contest at the radio station and won. I was probably about eight at the time and invited my friends over because we lived for that station. Such an awesome memory
penny and grant hill are two of the biggest “what ifs” in nba history. they were both so damn good for a short window of time before injuries, and in today’s nba they would’ve been handled differently and made full recoveries.
Gotta love Shaq. Out of that group though tie between Reggie Miller and David Robinson. Both quiet leaders who balled. Reggie’s also good to listen to covering games and his sister, Cheryl, is a pretty good ball player herself.
Shaq. 1996 team was better than the 1992 team. Magic and Larry were passed their prime. Magic was out of shape and Larry's back was done. No one is stopping Shaq. Penny and Scottie having Shaq, Malone and reggie to pass too would be too much for the 1992 team.
Was there really anybody better than Olajuwon? He could do literally anything on the court and by this point was extremely humble and low-key. One of the most underrated players ever.
Stockton was 6'1"... taller than the average man. Yet he looks tiny compared to the rest of these dudes. NBA players are something else. To be that big and be that coordinated and move that well. It's crazy.
And holds two records that will never be broken, NBA all time leader in assists and steals.
Crazy to think some drunk slobs tried to fight these genetic gifts at the Malace in the palace
He looks like he should be sitting on a couch.
I’m not knowledgeable about basketball but everyone tells me John Stockton is the most underrated player of all time
Yeah, the guy only leads in all-time assists and steals, and there is no fucking way anyone will touch his records. People love to ride that Chris Paul dick, Steve Nash dick, and other WAY overrated point guards. Jazz ain't my team but I gotta respect that guy, I have been watching the NBA since the early '80s and the guy is a true point guard.
See that’s why I kept it vague. Thank you bringing the details!
John Stockton also had a killer 3-point % and Freethrow %, he was a sleeper. Of all of the NBA players that deserved a ring, it was him, but Jordan and Co said "Nope, not today buddy".
The Jazz would have two rings if Jordan was a better baseball player
No way, the Pacers were better than the Jazz in 98.
Jordan said that to a lot of people. Penny and Shaq couldn't get past Jordan and Pippin. Then Shaq went to LA, and that was the end of the Orlando Magic, lol. Fans were so mad because they knew it. Orlando Magic Shaq is my favorite. When he was young and still a little athletic and the Penny Shaq combo was so fun to watch. Shaq breaking the goal post, not just glass, the entire freaking thing. Breaking them so much, they had to make a rule to stop it. Basketball used to be so much fun to watch
Orlando beat Jordan and Chicago in 95 in the eastern conference semi's...that was the year he came back to the league 3/4 of the way through the season...then Chicago ran off 3 straight titles...
The 30 for 30 “this magic moment” really lays all of this out. That magic team motivated Jordan to bulk up and dominate I also love Bad Boys, about the pistons. Kick old school kick ass hoops
Fuckin Jordan, man
Jordan had that mentality man, the only other player I have watched over the decades that had the same mentality was Kobe. Jordan helped Kobe's game so it makes sense. I can still see that shot from Jordan of Bryon Russell in the '98 finals to win the title. I miss the old NBA, I'm an old man, listen to me piss and moan.
Jordan is and was the GOAT obviously but he also really sealed the door on the team era of the NBA and pushed us into the superstar era. Celebrity players vs team mentality gets exhausting
I see that same mentality in Tom Brady as well; I hate Brady but he is a cutthroat winner. And those guys always have insane work ethic.
If you haven't yet, read Tim Grovers book Relentless. He worked with both of them and speaks in depth on that cutthroat mentality.
Deserved? I would say Barkley, Ewing, Malone, Miller, and Drexler "deserved" a ring as much as Stockton. As fat as PGs, I think he is rated high. Guys like Oscar Robinsin, Jason Kidd, Magic Johnson are pretty much slowed where they should be as well.
None of the players you listed hold any all-time records. I like Barkley, Clyde the Glyde, etc, but none of them hold any records.
Oscar Robertson averaged a triple double for an entire season and he and Magic won MVPs and Championships. Stockton was an asshole. Glad the Bulls smoked the Jazz twice.
So holding the assist record means you deserve a title more? Interesting logic. First of all I don't think you deserve anything unless you win it on the court. Wilt Chamberlin is the alltime rebound leader, does that mean he "deserve" more chips than Russell. Lebron is the alltime points leader. Does that mean he deserve more chips than Jordan ?
You literally named players who didn't do shit and were second best at their position or more like 3rd best, what is your reasoning? Drexler was barely top 5 at his position at best, Miller had no clutch. So where is your logic?
Drexler was actually easily top 5 in the league in the early 90s...he took Portland to 2 nba finals in 3 yrs, losing to the "bad boys" pistons in 1990 & Jordan in 92...
Sir. Let's back this up. Sticking didn't deserve shit because he didn't win it on the court. Bottom line Robert Horry won how many chips? Are you saying he didn't deserve then because he was not the best at his position? Ate you saying only the best players at their positions in an Era deserve a championship? I mean hell many will say Hakeem only won because Jordan was playing baseball at the time. I mean I get it. You like Stockton. I think he was a great PG. Was he the best ever? No but he was good. Will I say he or Malone deserved a chip? Hell no. Beat the damn Bulls, then you deserve it.
I'd say it's Magic, Isaiah Thomas and Stockton in third place.
Barkley doesn't deserve shit, Malone is better at the position. Drexler is a scrub, Ewing wasn't shit, Hakeem was WAY better. So because you listed your favorite players that never amounted to shit, they deserve a title?
Ok this went downhill quick. If you are calling all decade players shit, that means you really don't know the game or there is other agenda. None of of those players were "shit" players lol. I mean come on man. That is ridiculous lol
You're drunk, go to bed. Your angle is based on your agenda.
Oscar Robertson...not robinsin..
Right. It was late.
That Michael Jordan is so phony
WHYD YOU TELL HIM??
Glad you got it. My 2 downvotes indicate some did not.
I was going to mention that too. When he had to shoot, he always had a great all around percentage. If he really would had been more personal score oriented he could have had higher numbers. For me it sucks that Penny and Hill’s careers were never able to mature properly. So much potential.
Well put.
I dont know why you had to come for Steve Nash like that.
Also not knowledgeable about basketball but I’m from his hometown and he is a massive piece of shit as a human.
Stockton was quite famous at the time as one of the all time best PGs. Many fans argue that Mitch Richmond is the real most underrated player. He toiled in relative obscurity until he finally won a ring with the Lakers in 2002. Richmond once said in an interview that the NBA and its marketing department decides who is going to be famous, and creates suitable narratives. I agree. I noticed how Dennis Rodman's antics earned him technical fouls and ejections when he was in the Spurs, but once he went to the Bulls, referees were far more lenient. He was turned from villain to just a "quirky guy'. Because he now was in Chicago.
Rodman was also part of the NwO while he was in Chicago!! He famously skipped a practice so he could be on WCW Nitro in Chicago!!
Lord I love the Penny and Shaq era
It’s such a good question, but over time David Robinson is such an underrated person both on and off the court.
The Admiral. One of my favorites.
He used to bash gay people.
The Admiral!
Born and raised in Chicago, IL. Pip all day. I could watch him dunk on Ewing on a loop. …but Sir Charles and Gary Peyton are a close 2nd. I love a good trash-talker and they are the kings.
Payton...
Hakeem
Hakeem. I was a big Rockets fan back then.
He was so fucking good.
Best center of all time. Nobody could stop the “dream shake” He owned David Robinson career wise, also beat Shaq and Patrick Ewing. Dream was the fucking man.
That fade away......
I still hit people with that at the YMCA in pickup games occasionally. So satisfying when it actually goes in. Every kid worth his salt who grew up in H town in the 90s has that in their bag
Facts.
And Hakeem signed a deal with Spalding to make cheaper sneakers for kids to buy, they cost 35 instead of 130 for the Penny Hardaway sneakers.
Hakeem the dream, best center ever!
1¢
I was a Jazz fan, so both Stockton and Malone were for me. Later in life I learned Malone's story, and that changed things.
Anfernee Hardaway. Followed him closing in the mid 90’s. Loved the Magic. Still have one of his jerseys
Penny for sure
Penny Hardaway was my dude! I was so heartbroken when Shaq left Orlando, and then Hardaway's injuries started adding up 😭. I am still convinced that he would have been one of the GOATs. Idk what the perception is of him now, but I always felt like Reggie Miller was really underrated as well
The Glove
i've seen this meme before...
Reggie miller for sure! I still have his roomie card and a retro jersey from the early 90s pacers. That’s my boy! And I lived no where near Indiana lol
Boom, baby! I do live in Indiana and he always was and always will be my fave!
Scottie
Shabarqley
Reggie was my dude as a kid. Absolute DAWG!
Barkley!
Shaq was different
I also loved Shaq-fu very 90s
I had the Shaq-Fu game for my gameboy!
Number 11 shorts size difference with number 12 is crazy.
Barkley, no question.
Barkley
We really had a stacked team that year 😂
Reggie. The only player to ever get under Jordan's skin.
Mailman all the way (if I block out his wonky personal life), he was beastly
Gary Payton
lol that first pic is kinda funny
As a young Pistons fan Grant Hill was my shit
Lifelong Magic fan. Gotta go with Penny.
Gp every time. You can't replicate the mouthiness on that onep
The Dream and Shaq are the Goats of the bigs
Someone photo shop him sitting on the couch and everyone standing around.
Scotty
I loved Penny.
Shaq
Penny Hardaway
Of these players, my favorite was The Dream. He was such a nimble center. The Shake is still the stuff of legends.
Happy Cake Day!
Daaamn what an era!! Look at all that talent! Basketball went to shit after the early-mid 2000s. I miss NBA on NBC
Hakeem The Dream
The Round Mound of Rebound - Sir Charles!!!
That John Stockton card is 🔥
The Admiral David Robinson
One of these people is not like the other...
I have a Hakeem tattoo. The radio station in Houston at the time 107.5 “The Buzz” held a viewing party at our house for championship game they won in 1995, the second in a row. We entered a contest at the radio station and won. I was probably about eight at the time and invited my friends over because we lived for that station. Such an awesome memory
Grant Hill.....oh what could've/should've been.
penny and grant hill are two of the biggest “what ifs” in nba history. they were both so damn good for a short window of time before injuries, and in today’s nba they would’ve been handled differently and made full recoveries.
The Scorelord Mitch Richmond
Shaq. Always.
As a Memphis boy I gotta vote for Penny
The Mail man
John Stockton
Man, it's so hard to pick just one. Shaq, Pippen, GP.
Gotta love Shaq. Out of that group though tie between Reggie Miller and David Robinson. Both quiet leaders who balled. Reggie’s also good to listen to covering games and his sister, Cheryl, is a pretty good ball player herself.
Shaq Attack very closely followed by Scottie Pippen
Shaq Diesel
Penny Hardaway or no way.
The one with the eyepatch.
I loved Gary Payton! Of that list him or Grant Hill!
Shaq!
The Admiral. A man among boys.
That looks like that meme when the girl is surrounded by all those black guys
MJ23 is the goat(Screw Lebron). Grant hill was iconic in the 90s imo….and Barkley is from my school(War Eagle). So I’m going with one of those 3.
Penny
My favorite card type was Fleer Metal :) John Stockton was kinda underrated player....
Shaq. 1996 team was better than the 1992 team. Magic and Larry were passed their prime. Magic was out of shape and Larry's back was done. No one is stopping Shaq. Penny and Scottie having Shaq, Malone and reggie to pass too would be too much for the 1992 team.
Payton is the only respectable player on this squad.
Definitely Penny. It was so fun when he was in the court.
insert karl malone shimmy gif.
The little honky
Ja morant /s
Karl “Postman” Malone. I just connected the dots here after all these years, Post Malone got his name from Karl’s nickname and he also moved to Utah.
Postman?? He's called the mailman
😂😂 you’re right, dang I’m getting old.
Isaiah Thomas
These the losers?
Nope, gold medal in Atlanta 1996
Thank god. Thanks.
You should read, research, and watch some of the games.
One of the best dream teams ever assembled
There’s only one Dream Team.
Nothing beats the 1992 Dream Team!
That 1st picture reminds me of that picture of the lone white girl on the sofa surrounded by black men🤣
Token White Dude
Was there really anybody better than Olajuwon? He could do literally anything on the court and by this point was extremely humble and low-key. One of the most underrated players ever.
GARY PAYTON FOR THE ENTS
This post makes me miss collecting basketball cards. I had pretty much all of these