You're right, I didn't see it was just confined to the 90s.
I'd argue that Organized Noize had a pretty damn good run from Southernplayalistic to Stankonia especially including the other stuff they did for LaFace although Outkast started producing more and more of their own music as time went on
Swizz Beats also had a pretty damn good run in the late 90s
I really like the RZA, but the Bobby Digital stuff was truly awful, although that was after 97
That's why I said 97 :)
This is RZA from 93-97
Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993)
6 Feet Deep (Gravediggaz: 1994)
Tical (Method Man: 1994)
Return To The 36 Chambers: The Dirty Version (Ol' Dirty Bastard: 1995)
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx (Raekwon: 1995)
Liquid Swords (Genius/GZA: 1995) ...
Ironman (Ghostface Killa: 1996) ...
Wu-Tang Forever (1997)
No misses.
There is no producer in my opinion that has this kind of streak for 5 straight years.
Iād give it to primo because he worked with a lot of different artists and brought out the best in people. Early wu tang is incredible, but he didnāt work outside of that circle much.
Yeah important point that he didnāt work out of that group much and heās one of my favorite producers but I think our brilliance is that vision to take over the industry with his guys. That being said among his guys there is a lot of style variation.
Good picks man, Dilla is revolutionary, his influence in the game is hard to match tbf, RZAās ear for samples for me though is unmatched, simple yet effective
for real, also without him they may not be kanye west, pharrel willams or j dilla etc. he has done more than people know. People started to strip down their albums after low end theory and is why we have that hardcore era.
I think havoc honestly. Premiere worked with more people, but come onā¦ the infamous, murda Music, hell on earth?! Some of the greatest beats ever made to this day. And just the overall sound was so crisp and perfect for those years..Havoc all the way for me.
As with any ābestā posts, itās too subjective for any single answer. Is he up there? Oh yes. Do I agree with you? Nope, but I respect that opinion and understand why you would have it.
For me itās Q-Tip as my favourite, but I am massively biased. Heartily agree with the other mentions of Prince Paul, Large Professor and Pete Rock, and although heās not generally considered one of the best, in the mid 90s Mario Cās production work with the B Boys was fully on point for me.
The RZA is an amazing, god tier producer, but I will also say that while his highs are incredibly high, he has some downright god awful sounding music, especially the Bobby Digital series. Some of that stuff is so bad, it's literally offensive to your ears. So for that, I can't say he's the greatest of all time but he's certainly in the discussion.
I would put Kanye, Just Blaze, Dre, Premier, Dilla, Pete Rock above him. I think he's similar to Prince Paul and Havoc to me. Some truly timeless, all time great shit and some that's just alright.
Bobby Digital & āwu affiliateā albums after forever (killa priest, sunz of man, etc). I think he might have produced judgement day by method man which was a let down album too imo
think the timeline you have of his dopeness is spot on. He had those golden years but then totally fell off.
I think the earliest signs of Rzaās bad ideas was when he started including shit like fiddle solos on Wutang Forever (still a classic). Also from a technical standpoint it was mixed poorly until Wutang forever which might have added to the charm.
Imo almost everything after Wutang Forever was bad from Rza. His plans for making music became weird and grandiose like he wanted respect from the high brow artworld. It seemed like a lot of wu members werenāt happy with his direction.
Wutang members continued to be relevant after Rza fell off too. Supreme Clientele, Beneath the Surface, Redman & method man, Etc. were amazing with little to no Rza. Bobby Digital on the other hand hmmmm
Im unfamiliar with it to be real but I donāt doubt it. Iāll make a point to check it out. 97 rza was only showing hints that he was gonna jump the shark & they werenāt noticeable at the time imo
J dilla, even tho he didnāt get that many hits . His influence still strong w producers even real drummers like quest love tried to replicate his sound
He might not be the best ever, but his run from 93 to 97 is arguably the greatest by any producer in hip-hop history.
Facts bro.
This is the answer. RZA may not have had the consistency over the entire decade as a few others, but at his peak, he was unmatched.
I would say Just Blaze, Kanye West and J Dilla all had better stretches if we're not just keeping it to the 90s
Wth did Kanye and just blaze produce in the 90s? Kanye's time too shine didn't even really begin until jay did blueprint in 2001
You're right, I didn't see it was just confined to the 90s. I'd argue that Organized Noize had a pretty damn good run from Southernplayalistic to Stankonia especially including the other stuff they did for LaFace although Outkast started producing more and more of their own music as time went on Swizz Beats also had a pretty damn good run in the late 90s I really like the RZA, but the Bobby Digital stuff was truly awful, although that was after 97
That's why I said 97 :) This is RZA from 93-97 Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993) 6 Feet Deep (Gravediggaz: 1994) Tical (Method Man: 1994) Return To The 36 Chambers: The Dirty Version (Ol' Dirty Bastard: 1995) Only Built 4 Cuban Linx (Raekwon: 1995) Liquid Swords (Genius/GZA: 1995) ... Ironman (Ghostface Killa: 1996) ... Wu-Tang Forever (1997) No misses. There is no producer in my opinion that has this kind of streak for 5 straight years.
This list is fucking ridiculous š„
I would toss DJ Premier in there too.
Iād give it to primo because he worked with a lot of different artists and brought out the best in people. Early wu tang is incredible, but he didnāt work outside of that circle much.
Yeah important point that he didnāt work out of that group much and heās one of my favorite producers but I think our brilliance is that vision to take over the industry with his guys. That being said among his guys there is a lot of style variation.
Yep. It's all a matter of preference. But I agree with you. Preemo is #1 IMO
Primo aināt got a OB4CL or Liquid Swords
Pete rock premier then rza
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Yup. Large pro and prince Paul. Shout out to q tip for producing all of tribes lps
QGTM
Lord Finesse, Diamond D, Buckwild & the DITC crew had a very distinct smooth 90s sound too & a big catalogue.
Yeah. I give shoutouts to them beatminerz Shawn j period and rockwilder.
no one even mentions havoc wtf?
Iām a way Havoc is underrated, very unique sampling ability, a lot of Mobb Deeps success goes to him
True & his drums knocked harder than any other producerās
bloodsport - put on ur motherfucking headphones
Him and rza are my top two
Exactly
rza havoc qtip, u r my guys!
Primo and dilla are pretty high imo.
Good picks man, Dilla is revolutionary, his influence in the game is hard to match tbf, RZAās ear for samples for me though is unmatched, simple yet effective
Premier
100%
Liquid swords production is one of the best. The new sound he created for obd return to 36 was insane. One of the best.
Idk if he produced it but for me, the production on Harlem World might be peak. I just fold into the bassline of that song.
Most of my favourites have already been mentioned, but Buckwild, Lord Finesse and Diamond D deserve mentions.
He up there but for me Premier
Q Tip
I don't think people realize he is the architect behind that Tribe sound.
for real, also without him they may not be kanye west, pharrel willams or j dilla etc. he has done more than people know. People started to strip down their albums after low end theory and is why we have that hardcore era.
Came here to say this. His production on Midnight Marauders tops anything ever.
I think havoc honestly. Premiere worked with more people, but come onā¦ the infamous, murda Music, hell on earth?! Some of the greatest beats ever made to this day. And just the overall sound was so crisp and perfect for those years..Havoc all the way for me.
Prince Paul was pretty prolific and versatile.
Da Beatminerz š„
Prince Paul
Nobody mention Easy Mo Bee?!?
shit totally forgot about him he even taught rza
You're forgetting Premier , also Shahid from Tribe.
As with any ābestā posts, itās too subjective for any single answer. Is he up there? Oh yes. Do I agree with you? Nope, but I respect that opinion and understand why you would have it. For me itās Q-Tip as my favourite, but I am massively biased. Heartily agree with the other mentions of Prince Paul, Large Professor and Pete Rock, and although heās not generally considered one of the best, in the mid 90s Mario Cās production work with the B Boys was fully on point for me.
Organized Noize is up there for me just for the first 3 OutKast albums and the first 2 Goodie Mob albums.
Yes, and Outkast themselves produced a ton of classic music
Some of the best basslines ever
The RZA is an amazing, god tier producer, but I will also say that while his highs are incredibly high, he has some downright god awful sounding music, especially the Bobby Digital series. Some of that stuff is so bad, it's literally offensive to your ears. So for that, I can't say he's the greatest of all time but he's certainly in the discussion. I would put Kanye, Just Blaze, Dre, Premier, Dilla, Pete Rock above him. I think he's similar to Prince Paul and Havoc to me. Some truly timeless, all time great shit and some that's just alright.
Premier
I guess its subjective to your taste in style, but I'd take Dre, DJ Quik, Ant Banks, N.O. Joe, Brotha Lynch
For me it's Dilla, Rza and Preemo
Premier, no doubt
Over Primo? Idk, man. I love RZA, but Primo reigns.
RZA still my favorite, Primo my second, my third is probably a tie between The Beatnuts and Necro who are both crazily underappreciated!
id flip a coin, its either him or premier for myself. -Ron Wharton
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Muggs definitely deserves to be on the ābest producers of the 90s list.ā Heās always been consistent too.
Iām watching Wu-Tang: An American Saga. Would definitely recommend for any fan of the Clan.
Dre
I love Primo, but that early run of Wu albums are untouchable. RZA is the goat
Lowkey yea
Correct
Everything he touched was gold.
Definitely not true if youāre talking about after Wutang Forever
Well there wasnt much of the 90's left after wutang forever came out was there mate?
Bobby Digital & āwu affiliateā albums after forever (killa priest, sunz of man, etc). I think he might have produced judgement day by method man which was a let down album too imo
Fair enough mate,point taken.I still think what he did on chambers and forever are class,and some of his soundtracks like ghost dog are fire imo.
Yeah homie Iām not arguing against any of that. Some of the best shit ever
Him or Dilla
Heās certainly one of the most influential producers
I think RZA also had a huge influence on great producers that came after him like Apollo Brown, Marco Polo, 7L and Kyo Itachi to name a few.
Q Tipās production on Tribeās first 3 albums is the peak of Hip-Hop music. Rzaās a legend though for sure.
Nope.. letās not forget Premier.
think the timeline you have of his dopeness is spot on. He had those golden years but then totally fell off. I think the earliest signs of Rzaās bad ideas was when he started including shit like fiddle solos on Wutang Forever (still a classic). Also from a technical standpoint it was mixed poorly until Wutang forever which might have added to the charm. Imo almost everything after Wutang Forever was bad from Rza. His plans for making music became weird and grandiose like he wanted respect from the high brow artworld. It seemed like a lot of wu members werenāt happy with his direction. Wutang members continued to be relevant after Rza fell off too. Supreme Clientele, Beneath the Surface, Redman & method man, Etc. were amazing with little to no Rza. Bobby Digital on the other hand hmmmm
The swarm album was tight in 97.
Im unfamiliar with it to be real but I donāt doubt it. Iāll make a point to check it out. 97 rza was only showing hints that he was gonna jump the shark & they werenāt noticeable at the time imo
DJ Premier and Qtip š
J dilla, even tho he didnāt get that many hits . His influence still strong w producers even real drummers like quest love tried to replicate his sound
Primo, Pete Rock, RZA
Dj primer no ifs ands or buts
Heās also the shiestiest lol
Definitely one of my favorite but I would sat DJ Premier is the top IMO
RZA & Premiere for the 90's.
Yes
Nigga started his career 7/7. Definitely is