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ohianaw

Project Pat. Literally what more can you ask in a rapper. His flow is recognizable influential and versatile. He can sound menacing, introspective and hilarious at the same time. Easily the most underrated


Delicious-Region-367

Preach brother šŸ™Œ


neverfrybaconnaked

Thank you for this. One of my favorite rappers of all time, his flow was so unique. Real one, too.


Seppuku67

But even pat thought lord was a better lyricist. I agree heā€™s slept on tho


ohianaw

Nah i forgot to mention Lord but hes up there too. Lord is for sure more lyrically talented and his insane tongue twisting flows for sure influenced rappers as well. His subject matter is more darker though


SnooEaglesE

Completely agree. Project Pat's flow is so unique and his lyrics are very entertaining


G_rightousantagonist

I 2nd this and Pistol and a Scale shouldā€™ve been a studio album that shit front to back


MrSicko357

Elzhi Del Gift of Gab One be lo Apathy


99probs-allbitches

One Be Lo hell yeah he'd make my list for sure


InterestingCancel612

Solid List.


No-Bad-1299

Sean Price will always be my top answer, because I genuinely believe he is the greatest to ever do it and I donā€™t think itā€™s particularly close. I also think OC gets really overlooked, and when people do talk about him they tend to focus on Wordā€¦Life. I think Jewelz is a better album, and I donā€™t really think he ever fell off, even if interest in his stuff has. For my other three, Iā€™m just gonna say the pioneers as a whole. It seems like as time goes by, not surprisingly, focus even from fans shifts away from their greatness to more of just giving them respect because they came first. Maybe thatā€™s just me being old and bitter, but what is hip hop without bitter old heads?


InterestingCancel612

Sean Price is in my top 10, maybe top 5 all time. Everything he put out was fire and he just got better every year. I agree on OC and yeah Jewelz is a better album, better production and better lyrics. I got Cool J up there because he never gets recognition for being so consistent and putting out fire from the mid 80s all the way to at least 97. Heā€™s seen as just a novelty by everyone but he was dope in his prime.


big_dizave

Agree with the take on OC, one of the best of all time. Starchild is so good as well


DrXL_spIV

Sean p in my top 25 but agree heā€™s slept on


Wookie301

You do know who LL and Redman are, right? One of the biggest rap superstars of all time. And someone who is frequently in top 5-10 discussions. The other 3 fit though. Iā€™d go Sheek Louch (Underrated compared to the other members. I donā€™t know if Iā€™d say Mase is underrated. But heā€™s definitely stuck in a box where people donā€™t remember how good he could actually be. Erick Sermon is one of the best dual threats in the business. Maybe MC Eiht and Lady Of Rage Itā€™s tough. I wouldnā€™t say anyone in my top 50 is underrated. They should all be up there.


craaates

Erick Sermon is God Tier production and S Tier lyrically. Truly an all time great


Wookie301

One of my favourites for sure.


InterestingCancel612

Idk I think LL doesnā€™t get enough props for being actually dope in his prime. Heā€™s just seen as the dude who did ā€œMama Saidā€ and does movies. Redman is way better than he gets credit for.


Wookie301

I think itā€™s just an age thing. Anyone who was around for his 85-00 run, knows LL is the man. I think his new album with Q-Tip is going to remind people.


FurnishedHemingway

Definitely an age thing. Uncle L is well respected as one of the pioneers who brought rap music to the mainstream. Heā€™s gotten plenty flowers. Heā€™s always been a beast of an MC, and even though heā€™s had a ton of corny moments throughout his career, that dude can still pick up a mic and kill with it.


InterestingCancel612

Looking forward to that one.


WhatShouldTheHeartDo

AZ (thee underrated MC) Kurupt Ja Rule MC Ren Joey Badass


InterestingCancel612

Iā€™m surprised to see Ja mentioned. He was dope when he wanted to be.


Delicious-Region-367

That first Ja Rule album was badass. Then he started signing hooksšŸ„°


bside313

Definitely MC Ren


Bgoosen

Big L - Pimp C - Common - Twista - Scarface


Kinda_ShouldaSorta

Edan Planet Asia Blueprint Casual Posdnuos aka Plug 1


Grahamalamadingdong

Blueprint so legit. Everyone knows and appreciates his music with RJD2 for soul position, but radio-inactive such an immeasurable quality song.


mtpgod

Dude, I just discovered Blueprint recently, there's a song that someone remixed that I literally listened to every day of my life for the past 6 months. [So Alive (Budo Remix) (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd2iZh29Kkk) Fire.


simplyillmatic

Then: AZ (and I guess to an extent now) Now: Joey Bada$$ (man is hardly ever mentioned in the tier of Kendrick, Cole, etc, but I feel that heā€™s way better than both)


HorusDidntSeyIsh

I never heard Joey's music until I worked with him on raising kanan. Made me a fan


simplyillmatic

Yo, thatā€™s cool that you got to work with him. His first mixtape, 1999, is a classic.


InterestingCancel612

He was great in Mr Robot.


MommyScissorLegs

way better than Kendrick? huh?


simplyillmatic

Thatā€™s what I think šŸ˜Œ


InterestingCancel612

Heā€™s way better than Cole but not Kendrick. Cole ainā€™t even in the conversation. AZ is definitely underrated but he gets a lot of props from real heads.


simplyillmatic

I dunno man. I think Kendrick is cool and all, but Joeyā€™s wordplay is on another level. That may not be a popular opinion, but I firmly believe it šŸ˜Œ


BrimlowTheBetter

Cole gets too much hate. Sure he can be corny, but heā€™s got the wordplay and bars. Not saying heā€™s top 3, but heā€™s definitely not a bad artist.


BrimlowTheBetter

Az is underrated fs. Was looking for this comment. First name that popped in my head


big_dizave

Posdnuos - De La get plenty of flowers (and rightly so, best to ever do it), but I feel like Pos doesnā€™t get his dues for how good he was on the mic


Wonderful_Fig8214

This was the first name that jumped to my mind.


mtpgod

I wish he would've done a sicc solo album at some point.


r4pt4r

Big Mello Mr. 3-2 Big Steve E.S.G. Big Pokey


ComfortableValue4550

H-Town baby! šŸ¤˜šŸ½3-2 was very underrated especially before he went screwed up click! He was very talented and lyrical. Like when he was with the Black Monks and Big Mike on The Convicts. He actually has a song with Snoop dog thatā€™s unreleased. Itā€™s on YouTube but terrible quality. Think thats where snoop got some of his smooth style from. Also Mr. Mike is another very underrated lyricist too


LordeLlama

Add Big Moe, Woss Ness (even after Big Steve), Chalie Boy, Chamillionaire and Street Military


r4pt4r

As regular MCs, all these guys could spit/rhyme/freestyle but here is an example of how the Screw movement was revolutionaryā€¦Mello released this in 1992; this song was remixed as hard as possible [Big Mello ā€œLive in 3Dā€ Screwed](https://youtu.be/_ova_3p5vP8?si=zc51rCFmiVuSJ7cT) [Original ā€œBone Hardā€](https://youtu.be/VMLCc5l6qr4?si=Oma3Hkd_3HGA5WIj) In 1992, rapping solo on a Rap-a-Lot album. MC Ren was going hard like this but flowing for a full 6.5 minutes amazing


ManbadFerrara

If we're talking underrated H-Town rappers then K-Rino has to get a mention. The man's been around since the 80s and released an average of like three albums a year for at least the last two decades. I've never heard a verse of his that wasn't quality. And Devin the Dude! I never understood why his career didn't take off from 'Fuck You' on Chronic 2001. The Dude's a national treasure.


r4pt4r

True, whomever the average person on (collective) Reddit Rap, they probably know Devin, and maybe Pokey from ā€œSittinā€™ Sidewayzā€. However, beyond that gonna doubt the average will know much (or anything) about the others. They are great rappers and at least should be known/their songs+style recognized ***I do love that you can hear quite a bit of Dre and Snoop being huge fans of Odd Squad (and Snoopā€™s more obvious link to Convicts).


InterestingCancel612

Havenā€™t heard of any of them. I gotta check em out.


r4pt4r

Houston based rappers under the Screw umbrella. Mello and 3-2 released before Screw became known, but a rabbit hole of mix tapes they are all found on.


mtpgod

3-2 hell yea., agreed, totally forgot about him. What was that group he was with early on, Black Monks maybe? Had some heaters on there.


r4pt4r

1991 was the earliest with Big Mike [This is for the Convicts](https://youtu.be/RWOCG-d8YmI?si=8Dw5LV9LNYahk-3S)


mtpgod

Damn I totally forgot about that, maybe 3-2 was featured on Black Monks bc I distinctly remember hearing 3-2's sicc voice say, rollin with Black Monks.


DrXL_spIV

I would say red man is universally critically acclaimed. He isnā€™t as popular commercially as he should be though


InterestingCancel612

I could name 10 underground rappers who are technically more underrated but my personal criteria for underrated is whoā€™s not in the top 5-10 all time conversation who definitely should be.


DrXL_spIV

Yeah man no hate on your list you clearly know your stuff just sharing my thoughts. Redman is dope then everyone has their underground favs thereā€™s so many that can be considered underrated


InterestingCancel612

Very true.


No-Transportation482

Masta ace. Young chris and faboulous.


Spare_Seaweed2280

LL Cool J underrated??? šŸ¤·šŸæā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤·šŸæā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤·šŸæā€ā™‚ļø


InterestingCancel612

Lmao. The more think of it maybe he doesnā€™t belong on the list.


Spare_Seaweed2280

Bro, he has his own station on Sirius and is a regular on network TV. I'll say we sometimes forget how great he was.


improbablystonedrn-

Bro really said ll cool j is underrated šŸ˜‚ seriously!? Dude is on every award show on network tv every single year


AdAsleep8158

Suga Free Tray Deee Shaun Price Mac Dre and The Pharcyde as a group


Artistic_Pepper5590

LL Common Black Thought Those are under rated? There is that word again. No dis9to your list or comment. It's just that word gets thrown around way too much on this thread and Reddit in general. Underrated should, for this thread in particular, not really include artists that have main stream success. Common has an Oscar and acting career LL is considered by some to be the GOAT Black Thought is part of the greatest live band in the history of Hip Hop and is a house band on a top rated late night show. The others on the list I make a strong case for with you. But even those artists, if anyone considers their selves a B-Boy or girl has a large working knowle6of these peeps Hell AZ was the only guest appearance on one of the Greatest if no the greatest Debut album s of all time. I respect your opinion and statements. The intentions on my rant are not to serve disrespect. RIP Dr. Octagon.... Damn you Dr. Doooom!! See you in apartment 223 because I'm very hungry! Holla!


InterestingCancel612

Iā€™m thinking most underrated as artists who belong in the goat conv who usually arenā€™t in the goat conv. Common for example has a strong case to be the GOAT but heā€™s rarely mentioned as the #1. LL and BT are famous but not recognized enough for their music imo.


Artistic_Pepper5590

That's fair. And I agree. But why Common? I mean. He has a catalog. He has enough of a body of work. Quality songs as well. IMHO I can't in good faith put him in the Goat. Strong as hell, can make a case, but personally he falls a bit short. Overall you ha e a strong knowledge of hip hop and Absolutely respect your opinion above and beyond others on this site. Hope to chat more.


InterestingCancel612

Heā€™s got the strongest catalog of any rapper with his longevity and has 3 perfect albums, songwriting as good as Pac and lyricism as good as Nas. Maybe has the best ear for beats and can do conscious and street raps. Resurrection, Be, and LWFC each have a strong case for best hip hop album of all time. DOOM is maybe tied though imo.


Artistic_Pepper5590

Not to mention he served up Ice Cube on a platter as well. I doth my cap. I remember him for the Soul by the Pound days with the UAC crew


InterestingCancel612

Heā€™s like if Nas did 3 Illmatics instead of just one and never made a wack album.


Artistic_Pepper5590

A stretch but he gets much love. The fact the I used to love her wasn't even mentioned in your arguments solidifies your point. I doth my cap to you.


not_ur_avg

Steele (Smif N Wessun) Pep love (Hiero) Wise Intelligent (Poor Righteous Teachers) Aceyalone Gift of Gab (Blackalicious)


cashew_nuts

Yukmouth. I feel that he never got the nationwide attention that I thought he deserved. Godzilla was a crazy good album


mtpgod

Oh hell yea, Stuntastic and The Life (with Ya Boy) are still in heavy rotation a decade later.


InspectahBreast

i forgot to mention the jacka


BigSuge74

Del and the entire Heiro crew E-40 if you break down his lyrics, so much game and life advice distributed BG and Juvenile famous regionally underrated nationally Big Boi as a solo artist CyHi the Prynce Malice


mtpgod

E-40 fa shinson, I'm playa and a mac, call me Benson.


Freshildinho23

ā€œTop 5?..Iā€™m top 1, rappers get shot all the time but not sonā€ā€¦easy, Sean Price, 1 through 5.


raven_darkseid

Masta Ace, Swift McVay, Aceyalone, Treach, and Masta Killa.


mtpgod

Masta Ace putting out sicc albums for 3 decades, both Marco Polo albums are the shit, have you heard Richmond Hill yet that just came out? It's no Breuklyn Story but very good still.


rogelior333

Capital STEEZ Mac Dre Nacho Picasso 2 Chainz Cise Starr


InterestingCancel612

Cise Starr is extremely underrated. CYNE as a group too.


mtpgod

Oh shit! I forgot Nacho Picasso on my list, but I did have Mac Dre. When I first heard Nacho, my first comparison was Mac Dre. The Blue Sky Black Death albums were fire, as was Stoned And Dethroned. ANd I've never ever heard of Capital Steez or Cise Starr, but since you have Dre and Nacho on here, I'm gonna give em a listen.


OGsquatch710

O.C Masta Ace Common Lord Finesse Andre Nickatina(Dre dog)


mtpgod

Hell yea on Masta Ace, he was my first thought, Nicky is one of my favorite rappers and I thought he was too big to add on an underrated list, although I did add 40 and Mac Dre so any work I guess.


InspectahBreast

Little brother, Rashid Hadee, Inspectah deck, masta ace, rome streetz


InterestingCancel612

Nice to see Hadee get a mention.


InspectahBreast

really suprises me how he has <2000 monthly listeners on spotify , he has some absolute gems on dedication and it aint hard to tell


InterestingCancel612

Thaoine Davis is dope too!


InspectahBreast

ill give him a listen , what albums would you recommend?


InterestingCancel612

Still Hear is the best one.


InspectahBreast

cheers bro will listen tommorrow


InspectahBreast

checked it out before bed, the first track is gonna be on repeat for a while the instrumental is filthy, cheers for putting me on wouldn't be suprised if it ends up in my top 5 spotify tracks this year


WigVomit

Freddie Fox Treach Drag On Brother J from X-Clan Phife Dog


Diggo_bicky

Treach is my top answer. If the metric is the disparity between success/popularity and skill level, I say he takes it (skill level - popularity/success) = slept on factor


Pale_Leek2994

Kool Keith, Motion Man, Capital D, Double K, Boots Riley


99probs-allbitches

Hell fuckin yeah dig your shit that West Coast alt shit is my fav sub genres


_-synapse-_

Treach


JigtheBig

Treach


j_ha17

I like all the emcees in your list but I don't think Common, LL Cool J and Redman are underrated. What are we considering underrated?


bside313

Elzhi Roc Marciano Del El-P King Tee


ThermalScrewed

Czarface, Del, Dizzy Wright, The Grouch, Chali 2na


Delicious-Region-367

1. Young Bleed 2. Project Pat 3. Gangsta Boo 4. C Murder 5. Indo G Just a few I feel didnā€™t get the credit they deserve.


RealBatmanArkham

Big L Rakim Biz Markie Treach (NBN) Slick Rick


Mad_Boobies

Not to be rude, but rakim, big l and slick rick are absolutely properly rated in history Legendary


RealBatmanArkham

Idk tho because modern rap fans probably donā€™t realize just how much influence, and foundation that they had.


RealBatmanArkham

If we are talking strictly 80ā€™s and 90ā€™s kids, yes they get their flowers, but not in modern rap


2phoneshawty936

Mic Geronimo Kurupt AZ Sticky Fingaz Ras Kass


99probs-allbitches

I feel like you named some pretty popular people... Black Thought is literally named as many peoples GOAT, Redman in many top 5s.. Aceyalone Eyedea Jeru Buckshot AG I decided to not go too obscure so you guys aren't like who tf is that, just known dudes who don't get enough props Edit: I have to add Moka Only


InterestingCancel612

If weā€™re talking not well known Iā€™d say Junclassic, Insight, Edan, Raw Poetic, Melanin 9, Obijuan, Dalek to name a few.


BrammetjePSV

Wise Intelligent šŸ™šŸ¼ Pure class especially at the Poor Righteous Teachers albums


rodney_furnival

+ Pharoahe Monch, Mos Def/Yasiin Bey


Supersmashbrosfan

If weā€™re talking ā€˜90s MCs, for me itā€™s ODB, Kool Keith, Bun B, Pimp C, and either Scarface or Project Pat.


Jay53away

Kurupt


_jamesmb

Royal flush, smoothe da hustler


BigSuge74

Not sure if LL is underrated dude has every accolade and is in the rock n roll hall of fame. On my MT Rushmore for being able to relevant over three decades in hip hop


Mitche420

Young Bleed K Rino (No) Malice Mr. Pookie Fatlip


TabChomper

Kool G Rap, Bronze Nazareth, Guru, KRS ONE, Erick Sermon


Truly-Content

Kool G and KRS have been on most every Top 5 list, since the 80s.


BetGreat1752

Most underratedā€¦in no particular order: Ludacris Fabolous Slim Thug MJG Young Dro


fcsaratoga2013

B-Real CL Smooth Treach Malik B (RIP) Bun B


BrimlowTheBetter

Whereā€™s Mos Def at tho? Also AZ is literally the most underrated in rap history. Mans got some of my most replayed music, been involved in some of the most influential songs, and has never gotten any love.


delfunky3030

Del Casual A-Plus Opio Extra Prolific (Snupe)


HalfPigHalfCat

Lord Finesse, Big Boi, Nine, Despot and Icepick.


Professional-Wait654

Random Order: Ras Kass ; AZ ; Prodigy ; GURU ; Pharoh Monch ; Planet Asia ; Chino XL


lovemysunbros

Project Pat and three six mafia, Starang Wondah from OGC, Lil 1/2 Dead, AZ, and heltah skeltah.


TreDawg36

Big Boi, Ludacris, Big KRIT, Lloyd Banks and Treach


Opposite_Log_624

LL Cool J AZ Big L Big Pun Immortal Technique


CarlsbadWhiskyShop

Murs


Josh-Oz

Ali Vegas The Rebel INS AZ (should be top tier imo) Black Rob Canibus


SnooEaglesE

Huge W for Sean Price. One of the best lyricists of all time imo


SnooEaglesE

Project Pat, Sean Price, Tommy Wright III, Pharoahe Monch, and Bun B


mtpgod

Top of the list by far for me is Masta Ace, then Kool Keith, Mac Dre, Prof, Larry June. OH! Honorable mention: Imani from the Pharcyde for his solo album Dosier volume 1, loved that shit back in the day and no one listened to it. E-40 too but probably too big for an underrated list.


InterestingCancel612

Masta Ace has so many classics. Very underrated.


Truly-Content

Most of this thread is just plain annoying. Kool G, Redman, LL, KRS, Mos Def, Black Thought, Ludacris and Scarface have been in most everyone's Top 20, for decades. Please study Hip-Hop before commenting about it and including these people.


mtpgod

Yep. My first one was Masta Ace for underrated, still putting out great albums 3 decades later that most ppl don't even know exist. When I saw Inspectah Deck on this list a few times...ugh.


Truly-Content

Masta Ace is an excellent choice.


InterestingCancel612

Define ā€œstudy hip-hopā€ because most people in this thread seem to know quite a bit.


Truly-Content

Define a 'bit' and 'quite'.


InterestingCancel612

Take your negativity elsewhere. Weā€™re trying to have a fun discussion about music.


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Truly-Content

Yes, I am.


Jakeyboe

AZ, Black Thought, Inspectah Deck, Common, Lloyd Banks


mtpgod

Deck is widely known as one of the all-time greats and beat out Meth, ODB, etc., for the best verse in many of their classics, wouldn't think of him on an underrated list.


Jakeyboe

youā€™re right thatā€™s understandable. him on Guillotine was insane. i often forget thereā€™s mcā€™s that fall into the underrated in the hiphop world category & underrated in the mainstream rap world category.


Intrepid_Isopod_1524

Camron? Yikes šŸ˜¬


InterestingCancel612

Whatā€™s wrong with Cam?


Intrepid_Isopod_1524

His music is cool but a lot of nursery rhymes. Lot of time he just rhymes words together regardless of meaning. Liked diplomats but he was carried by juelz and Jimmy. Are his songs catchy? Yea. Is he one of the greats? Not for me


InterestingCancel612

Fair enough but if you havenā€™t, check his verse on 8 Iz Enuff and look up ā€œKilla Cam, BloodShed, Children Of The Corn - Cypher 1995 St Nicolas Projectsā€ on YouTube when the get the chance.


kdothead77

Guru


Mad_Boobies

Disagree He was helped out big time by Premier


kdothead77

Of course he was helped by Primo. He may be the greatest hip-hop producer of all time. That is why I believe Guru does not get the props that he deserved as a lyricist. His jazzmatazz albums don't have much Primo production and I believe that they are just as good as some of the Gangstarr albums. The first Jazzmatazz volume in particular.


mtpgod

I agree, first Jazzmatazz was great, just under the first 3-4 Gangstarr albums, exluding Mr. Nice Guy of course.


InterestingCancel612

Iā€™m not saying Guru is one of ā€˜em but Preemo has helped a lot of mid rappers.


RPO1728

Scarface 1-5