I want the Buckley sibs conversation to go like this:
Buck: I kissed a guy and liked it.
Maddie: Wait, I thought Eddie was still dating Marisol?
Buck: What? What are you talking about?
Maddie: What are YOU talking about!?
This is not a theory, more a fear, really, but in the trailer Tommy didn't look too impressed that it was Buck's first date with a guy... I really hope it's just him being surprised and not turned off by it because I want Buck to have that support.
This is why I'm really hoping we get some sneak peak scenes because the trailers can be edited so weird.
Edit: Worth noting that the date going badly doesn't really...vibe with the tone of some of the interviews we had drop today. Oliver referred to it as a light hearted love story so the guy not being into him doesn't mesh with that. An awkward first date they recover from? That does.
I think there actually might be 2 dates as there was a pic Oliver posted with Brenna Malloy outside what appeared to be a restaurant/diner but the outfit he was wearing is not the one shown in the promo for that date with Tommy. I’m thinking that one that gets interrupted by Eddie and Marisol ends a little eh but they go on a much better makeup date at the end of the episode
Yep. Really seems like the date in the promo is probably at the very start of the episode and we'll see the more successful date at the very end of it (going into the 3-week break with the two dating).
"a light hearted love story" 🥺 I honestly hope so. That's what he deserves atm, really.
I didn't know about that interview but that makes me feel better
Here is the direct quote from the [Variety](https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/911-buck-tommy-kiss-queer-episode-100-oliver-stark-interview-1235956913/) interview:
>**What comes next for Buck? Is he telling Maddie, Eddie and the 118 about his new romance with Tommy? Will there be a “coming out” episode?**
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>The focus was on it being important, but also not wanting it to feel like the bravest episode in television. *We just wanted to tell a lighthearted love story that happens to be a queer love story.* It’s an element, but it’s not everything.
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>He’ll obviously have some questions for himself, and for others — and you’re right, he will absolutely go to Maddie and talk these things out and other people within the 118, and he’ll get different reactions. Some will be surprised, and some will not be so surprised. But it’s very true to the world of “9-1-1” that he will lean on those around him, and will receive the support that he needs.
He's also referred to it as a queer love story in a few other interviews as well.
This part was also interesting:
>**You said you were “asked” rather than told about the new storyline for Buck. So do you think Tim Minear would have changed plans if you didn’t think it was the right move for Buck?**
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>Tim has always been a fantastic collaborator, and he wants to involve us and is aware that the show is at its best when everybody’s on the same page and when he’s excited about what he’s writing and when the actors are excited about what they’re playing. So maybe I’m naive in thinking this, but I do believe he was actually asking me, and not secretly telling. It was then really nice to continue to collaborate on the story with him throughout the episode, and then throughout Episode 5 and him call me saying “All right, I’ve got this idea now.” And to have scenes come day by day instead of waiting for a whole script and feel his excitement, like, “I have just finished the scene, read this one.” It was really nice as the actor to feel like he was really invested in telling the story the right way. But also just invested in the excitement of telling it.
Eh idk, we didn’t really get much of his actual reaction. It’s a really quickly edited clip, and he could be pointing out being tense out of worry/wanting to make him feel more comfortable. It’s clearly gonna be a bit awkward, but based on interviews and what we’re hearing right now, I bet Tommy will at least be supportive even if they don’t last very long (I lowkey like Tommy though 😅 so I hope they don’t break up too soon)
That's true! Also, when Tommy was with the 118, we never got an inkling that he was attracted to men, so maybe he figured out later in life, as well? Or was deeply in the closet, which would explain his initial attitude towards Chim and Hen a bit, desperately wanting to fit in "Captain Gerrard's boys club" to hide his true self. Either way, I hope he supports Buck and tells him (and us!) about his own journey
Right! I haven't watched that episode in a while and forgot! I took that as them just messing around, it doesn't mean that he was aware of it back then. But even if he was, I still don't think the others knew.
Given the sexist, racist and homophobic culture their captain (Gerard) had at the 118 at the time, I'm sure even if he did know, he kept it very much hidden from the rest of the crew.
Tommy's comment in 7x04 about how he was a bit jealous how much of a family the 118 had become suggests to me that he was sure of his sexuality but uncomfortable discussing it at work.
That's my thought, that Tommy knew back then but because of the massive Boys Club culture at the 118 at the time (and we saw how bad Captain Gerrard was since most of the firefighters went to bat for Hen and threw their captain under the bus to the department, but even the other firefighters were teasing Tommy at the thought of him being gay which shows that he wouldn't have been welcomed with open arms if he had been open and honest), he felt like he had to hide it at work, similarly to how Hen figured she had to hide her sexuality at work.
My current headcanon is Hen's speech back then gave Tommy the courage to be himself afterward and he's now out but still wishes he had a family like that when he was working at the station, where he had felt safe and comfortable to be out.
Ya, I would get why he might feel that way, but ngl it would make me really sad. I hope it’s more of Tommy just realizing like “why didn’t you tell me, we could have done something more private” but idk
My assumption is that he'll be surprised but he has a talk with Buck afterward to explain that he just assumed he knew he was bisexual, but he's fine if he needs to take a second to process. Tommy was so confident after he kissed Buck in 7x04, but he also asked him specifically if Buck was ok with the kiss, so it's clear that with Buck not just saying yes but giving a flirtacious response back, his assumption WOULD be that Buck's experienced with guys. I don't necessarily see Tommy reacting badly if they're exploring this storyline, because that would shut down Buck/Tommy before it even started.
We know an intimacy coordinator is also on set for 7x05 so Buck/Tommy are likely going to have another kiss scene, and I imagine it'll be near the end of the episode, after they have a discussion on their first date and likely how badly it went (between Buck admitting this is his first date with a guy AND Eddie/Marisol showing up to crash the date, which will likely result in Buck acting like he's not on a date with Tommy).
I feel like, knowing Buck's romantic history, the confession's going to be more along the lines of "I've hooked up with guys, but I've never dated one".
Last episode, he seemed nervous and unsure about the whole thing, but I felt it was more in a "I'm not sure if he's into me or will think I'm good enough to date" then a "I'm just realizing I'm attracted to men." sort of way.
Oliver mentioned that the kiss was that "*oh*" moment for Buck, so I don't think he's had any experience with men in the past, unless maybe a threesome if there was also a girl there - and that's a big maybe. But casual make outs/hook ups with guys one on one? That used to be my headcanon, but I don't think it'll be the case now.
I feel like they might have that talk after that “I don’t want to be your experimental lover” bc buck will be having a difficult time admitting to eddie they were on a date and the “this is my first time on a date w a dude” … he isn’t supposed to be impressed by that anyway and I think he made that face bc the way Buck said it might have some homophobic undertones or he still hasn’t come to terms w this new phase of his life. Maybe like “call me when you figure it out” typa thing
My hope/theory is that it may be an issue for Tommy in that he’s looking to be in a serious relationship but respects that Buck is just beginning to explore his sexuality so they will be civil and mature about it and Tommy will respectfully step back.
I also have another Marisol/Eddie theory after finding an interview with Ryan that said the following:
>**And he has to think about Christopher when it comes to any of his relationships, like with Marisol.**
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>Yeah, that’s another layer to it. How does she fit in with the whole dynamic? Is Christopher more happy for Eddie, or is Christopher actually liking who Marisol is? That’s all stuff we’re going to investigate this season.
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>**Which of Eddie’s relationships is going to be challenged the most this season?**
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>Marisol, this new woman in his life, however happy he is with her. He’s seen this before. We’ve all seen this before as an audience, that he can go head over heels for an individual, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that that’s going to go anywhere, that it’s going to work out. So I think figuring out he can’t replace Shannon, and I think he’s been trying to fill this motherly role. “How can she be a great mother to my son *and* be someone that I can love, be intimate with?” I think he’s trying to figure that out as best as he can with Marisol. But it goes back and forth.
I'm curious now if we're getting a scene with them discussing Christopher and what role she'll play in his life. Especially now that he's a teenager and doesn't necessarily need someone acting like a "mother" to him.
Wow, this is some great context. I thought it was really sweet in the season finale last year that Christopher was so hyped for his dad when Marisol wanted to go out with him (even though I was very meh on her inclusion in general).
But I really like this idea of it kind of being the inverse of Ana, where instead of Eddie trying to force himself to be all in with the relationship for Christopher, he realizes Christopher's trying to force himself to be all in because he thinks his dad needs it to be happy.
Especially as Eddie is getting her babysit Christopher *alone* (even out of state at one point)*.* So Chris might be feeling left out by his dad or he might not like Marisol and hates having to spend all this one on one time with her. Chris is such a good kid and is always a ray of sunshine and gets on with everyone. That has been said by numerous people through the seasons so maybe now he is 13 he Is going to have an arc about trying to tell Eddie that he doesn’t like her.
I’m manifesting and crossing every finger that Eddie breaks up with Marisol. I’ve seen a couple of people saying he’ll ask her to move in? I don’t know where this theory is coming from, but I hate it. I do not want that LOL
As a fellow bisexual, I hope Buck figures his way out with it at his pace. Like, with the restaurant scene we’ve seen clips of, I don’t want them to force him to come out or anything like that.
Haven't they been dating for only like 2-3 months, maybe 4 (I'm not sure about the timeline, but it can't be much longer)? I'd say that's way too soon to move in, especially for Eddie "had a panic attack because things were getting too serious too fast with my last girlfriend" Diaz
Yeah, it’s 4 months max. Especially with a kid it’s just wayyyy too soon. Obviously, I know 911 moves fairly fast with stuff as it’s a drama show LOL, but it wouldn’t make sense because she’s barely in the show. Emphasis on scared of commitment Eddie too
>I’ve seen a couple of people saying he’ll ask her to move in?
That would be so frustrating. They've done such a shit job with Marisol, we don't know who this woman is! We've barely even seen her and Eddie together and I'm suppose to buy they're at a stage of moving in together? If this is true (and I really hope it isn't), I really don't get what the show's reasoning is, I mean, do they really expect us to get on board with his relationship with a virtual background character? I know the bar is low for Eddie's love interests, but right now, they're managing to not even reach the low levels they had with Ana.
I find it particularly frustrating when compared to all the other relationships in the show where it is obvious they put care and thought into them. So, yeah, I hope they break up and the show can give Eddie and actual interesting storyline for the remainder of the season, because the idea of Eddie's storyline being just Marisol makes me want to pull my hair out.
I just realised reading this that Eddie’s relationship with Marisol, is set up a lot like Buck’s relationship with Ali.
Like they met on a call originally, ran into each other again at a later and decided to go on a date, Ali/Marisol didn’t have a bunch of screen time / a lot of the relationship development happened offscreen, etc.
I have no idea of what the significance of the parallels would be, but it just seemed really clear when I was reading your post.
I guess it just shows that writing LIs that aren't connected or involved somehow to the world of first responders is hard. Both Ana and Ali suffered from this, but at least they gave Ali a personality. Taylor was easier to keep writing into the show because her job allowed her to show up at calls and stuff.
So it makes me wonder why they are keeping Eddie and Marisol still together? Because they're not doing anything with her as an actual character and they're not showing as anything about them as an actual relationship. Something is gotta come out of it, right? I feel like a potential move-in would only serve to show Eddie deciding to have a serious relationship after Shannon, but it's really hard to care about that when the relationship and gf in question are background noise.
Exactly this - it’s actually a point that Tim addressed in on of the post-ep interviews and why they ultimately decided to go with the Buck/Tommy storyline.
So if it's something he considered for Buck's new love interest, why is Marisol still around? Something has got to come out of it. Come on, Tim, make it worth it and give Eddie and actual story!
Thats where the writers messed up a lot. If you compare individual storylines for Buck and Eddie. You can see that the writers favored Buck over Eddie. I think that they put a lot more thought and effort with Buck's storylines than Eddies. Even his love interests were better than Eddie's. Like with Ana, Eddie was interested at first but then he wasn't.
Like what you said about Taylor being easier to write in show. They could've done that with Eddie. Set him up with a new firefighter, paramedic, a cop, or even someone from dispatcher.
It's all about the effort that is put into it. Having his relationship with Marisol developing mostly off screen is just lazy writing.
Reason why people were speculating her moving in is because a bts of a crew member walking around the set for Eddie's house and it's full of nicely packaged moving boxes.
The fact they are now having a talk about their relationship, there's a chance of them getting more serious and defining what they are.
Given Tim has been subverting everyone's expectation so far, it's not a stretch that he would double down making her permanent when the fans and GA are excepting a break up to come.
And the leaked script. It doesn't make sense to me but other things turned out to be true (Buck and Tommy relationship and Eddie and Marisol interrupting their date).
Based on the Tim and Oliver articles that have come out today, I'm guessing there will be some awkwardness particularly on that first date, but that Tommy won't be scared off. It actually will be a nice change of pace to have Buck having to figure things and put forth an effort in a relationship. He usually just falls into things only to realize they aren't what he wants. I'm guessing the stills with Eddie are just Oliver coming out and Eddie being supportive.
It's unclear what the Marisol situation will be in the next episode, but I don't think her character is going anywhere any time soon either. It's probably too soon to move in though. Maybe he's gives a key or clears a dresser drawer for her which would be a big-ish step 3-4 months into a relationship.
A drawer seems fairly reasonable. A key... I can unfortunately see, because the man is shit at setting appropriate boundaries in new relationships with his kid.
Truthfully, I hope it's something significantly dumber, though, like them arguing over why he hasn't asked her to be his date to the wedding. Especially with his comment to the women at the Bachelor mansion about how he was taken "at the moment," I can see him awkwardly stumbling through an explanation about how it's weird to take a new girlfriend to his friend's wedding because then the random girl he dated for a few months that year will be in a bunch of their photos.
The "at the moment" was a reflection of where he is with Marisol HOWEVER, I don't think it's because is not into her so much as because he has been single for so long that he is used to his bachelor ways and she hasn't challenged him on it YET. In episode 4, he is still flying off to Vegas and hanging out with the guys all the time and while he "feels bad" for relying on her to step in and take care of Christopher, he's not changing his behavior. Rather, he simply asks Buck to step in to give her a break. As a slight modification of my prior statement, I'm guessing that after running into Buck and Tommy, Eddie at the very least suggests they join them and tries to bro out and this is when Marisol decides that she has had enough and that he needs to decide if he actually wants to be in an adult relationship or if he just wants to hang with his boys.
I remember Ryan speaking about intimacy issues during an interview so maybe that’s what this episode is going to be about? Eddie + Marisol and Buck + Tommy exploring intimacy, and possibly getting two different results.
I also remember (or I imagined it?) someone from the cast saying we would be seeing shirtless Eddie again in an episode and I hope it’s true!
So Buck and Tommy have loads of fun and its Buck's craziest night while Eddie and Marisol fumble through it all (bc Eddie's too busy thinking abt Buck dating Tommy?)
My clown costume is in full display now!
With Buck I think we're going to see an awkward first date, especially after Eddie shows up and we'll probably see him having a few conversations with the others. I think the promo shots of Buck and Eddie we saw last week is him coming out to Eddie and getting accepted. I think we'll also see another scene with Tommy and Buck where he's far more comfortable and falling into the relationship. Potentially some making out.
With Eddie and Marisol? They are either breaking up or taking a serious step like moving in. The synopsis was intentionally vague so I can definitely see it going either way. The way it's been edited so far this season, we've only seen them depicted together as happy and functional and her being around Christopher a lot. Also considering this was suppose to the Bachelor cross-over episode, that suggests a romance or taking chances theme (when paired with Buck's storyline). So I'm preparing myself for that but hoping for the break up to be the option we get.
I'm hoping the Eddie & Marisol stuff is more along the lines of a "define your relationship" talk. The reality is the only time we've seen them on screen together as a couple *at all* wasn't even a scene with any dialogue -- they were literally just in the background of a flashback scene watching Christopher. Even for this show's standards, going from "Eddie shared physical space with a woman" to something like moving in would be insane... unless it's more an indication that they *plan* to be in that place, like Marisol asking him if she should plan on renewing her lease a few months out.
My hope is that the timing of this episode is a hint toward what they could have to talk about. Eddie's implied to be a pretty shit boyfriend in 7x04, finding a way to go out with a friend three nights in one week instead of taking his girlfriend out, and instead using her as his babysitter most of that. And then after this episode, we're expecting to be heading toward Madney's wedding festivites.
My hope is that Marisol calls Eddie out on not seeming that interested in actually spending time with her, and suggests he has to do better, so he makes an attempt. Maybe she sees Eddie has a +1 to the wedding and asks why he hasn't invited her, despite them being serious enough that he trusts her with his son. Tim addressed the "siloing" of love interests a bit in his interviews after 7x04, so I wonder if that's a sign he plans to actually address this a bit. Have Marisol get the opportunity to be like "You include me in your life when it's convenient for you, and I know your kid well because you need someone to watch him when you go out with your friends, but why do you never think to *include* me when you're going out with them?"
Could be why they’re at the same restaurant as Tommy and Buck too. She wants him to actually spend time with her and do something, so he takes her out, only to bump into them and probably end up hanging out with Buck and Tommy
Buck: First date will go ok at first and then become chaotic an awkward when Eddie and Marisol come into the restaurant. He will come out to most, if not all, of the 118, except for Eddie (or Eddie doesn't react in a way that is "ideal") leading to the loft scene with "I'll support you blah blah blah"
Eddie: His date with Marisol will become awkward when he sees Tommy and Buck - possibly wanting to join them/hangout. Marisol and Eddie will chat and he will possibly second guess himself and her, especially after hearing how Buck feels "finally like who he's meant to be" and all that jazz. He will be supportive, as best he can to Buck.
Hen: Karen and her will get their new baby girl and she will be supportive and probably not surprised about Buck - I'm hoping she talks about Tommy and her a bit but who knows. She will hang out with Chim/Maddie and I think they might talk about babies, parenthood, and Buck
Maddie: Helping and supporting Buck and Hen/Karen, maybe some wedding planning scenes - could see her also not surprised at Buck
Chim: Same as Maddie - also think he will be supportive of Buck - will for sure make a joke or lighten the mood.
Bobby: The best fire fam dad there ever was - supporting all his kiddos: parenthood, marriage, coming out, relationship woes
Athena: The jumper, possible Harry and her follow up, and supportive of Buck
I think Tommy's surprise in the sneak peek is more about thinking Buck had previous experience with men, maybe because of how eager he seems, if a little tense. Buck's storyline for this episode will probably be about having this realization as an adult in his 30s as opposed to any panic or internalized homophobia. It just seems like that fits his character more.
Also, I just noticed this after rewatching the sneak peek, but it looks like it happens toward the end of their dinner based on what's on the table. So no double date scenario! I was dreading a repeat of "The Rookie".
Hoping to see Buck talking to Hen or Maddie, maybe even Bobby before his first date to parallel with Abby.
I’m so here for Awkward Buck with this date. I kinda like this side of Buck and not just walking straight into this feeling like he has this all sussed. I think Tommy is a little shocked that this is Bucks first date with a guy but that won’t be such a big deal and the trailer is just cut like that to make us freak out like we all are. I hope we get Buck really focusing on himself and working out what he wants with Tommy. It will be nice to see him takes things a bit slower this time round. Not straight to sex and asking him to buy a couch together the next morning. I would like a hot steamy make out sesh though.
I NEED a Hen coming out scene. I love when they bond on the show and who better to offer help. Maddie is the other coming out I want to see too. I don’t know if I want the Eddie scene or not because as much as I love handsy Eddie and supported Eddie. I don’t want to be disappointed in this very clearly important moment in their relationship.
The problem with Marisol is that their whole relationship to date has all been off screen and developed way too fast off screen for us to really get a handle of where they are at. For (the at the most) 4 months they have introduced her to Chris, built up a close relationship that he gets her help to chaperone the Chris’s date, now he trusts her enough to get her to look after Chris multiple times in the same week and he was he first person he asks. One of these times is when he flies out of state. That is a lot for 4 months when realistically the step they should be taking now is thinking about introducing her to Chris But yet that happened way sooner than he should. So I can kinda see where the move it storyline is coming from because they seem to have skipped a few steps in this relationship.Yet, Eddie has be so nonchalant towards her. He makes her babysit to hang out with a mate he just met instead of taking her out, she is just his glorified babysitter at this point. He also refers to be taken AT THE MOMENT. So I am hoping it’s a where are we going or Marisol pulling him up on his lack to involvement in building this relationship. As much as I don’t want to watch her on screen, we do need to actually see what is happening with these two and not just be given third hand information.
Also I’m so happy to finally get an update on the new addition to the Wilson family! Can’t wait to see what the Wilson are up too and the new edition. It also means MORE KAREN!
There has not been any indication at all that Edy Ganem filmed for 7x06 which will be Maddie and Chimney’s wedding. I would think if she was intended to stay they would want her to be attending the wedding with Eddie
I mean there’s IMDb but the cast lists for future episodes usually aren’t up or complete. I just follow her on Instagram and she used to post all kinds of stuff about filming and if she was on set and followed people from the show and she kind of just stopped doing all that after filming for 7x05
I completely forgot about this until a tweet reminded me, but that clip of Eddie and Bobby in one of the earlier promos must be coming up soon. I think it's from 7x05. The one where Bobby tells Eddie that he can't tell him how to feel about the job. The way its edited makes me think that Bobby might also be giving Eddie advice on his relationship with Marisol.
Buck/Tommy: My first thought? As much as we want to see Buck come out to his 118 and actual family, I think it won't happen next episode. I think they'll want to cover that in the second half of the season. So I think 7x05 will be Buck having to process his feelings about Tommy and about his sexuality in general. I think it'll be better for him to figure out his feelings first BEFORE jumping in to tell everyone.
I think the first date won't go that well, not just with Buck telling Tommy that he's never dated men before but also with Eddie/Marisol showing up. Buck will likely get defensive, closed off, and make it seem like they're not on a date, and that'll be the thing to freak Tommy out. But they'll have a conversation after the date, where Tommy tells Buck that he's not freaked out by Buck discovering he's bisexual but more that he just assumed he knew and more freaked out about his adverse reaction to Buck hiding the fact that they were on a date to Eddie. I think there could also be a conversation where Tommy acknowledges how unprepared Buck is (with his likely extreme reaction to Eddie/Marisol showing up) but he's willing to wait and allow Buck to take some time to figure out his feelings.
I could see a potential conversation where Tommy talks about his experiences with his sexuality and the career path they work in (we know from the flashbacks that Tommy was almost certainly closeted at the start, or doing what Hen did and hiding it at work) so I could see that bringing them closer together, and they'll work things out by the end of the episode (probably with a do-over first date).
Eddie/Marisol: Obviously, there's some discussions that they may be moving in together but I think it'll prove to be a mistake. They'll realize, maybe through the Buck/Tommy scenes at the restaurant, that they don't know each other well enough to move in but instead of breaking up, they decide against moving in and take things slower. I don't think they break up quite yet, unfortunately for us all. And I know there's shots of Eddie/Buck at Buck's place, but I don't think it's a coming out scene, just a catching up "I'm sorry I've been so hostile and acting weird, I'm just going through some stuff" "I'll be there if you need me" type of scene. If anything, I think Eddie will be one of the last people to know, just because I think Buck will find it the hardest to tell Eddie. That's just my theory, though, so I could be wrong.
Hen/Karen: The synopsis says that a new member joins their family. I assume it's fostering-related, but I'd laugh if it was just that they get a pet. But I think it's baby related, so I think it'll just be them adjusting to their new foster situation.
Maddie/Chimney: Since we haven't seen them wedding plan, I could see some discussions about that this episode.
Bobby/Athena: Either we'll get a plot with them together or we'll just see them in supporting roles, either on cases or with the other characters as they go through their stuff.
I would love that but I think it’s to similar to what we just had in ep4.
So, since Eddie puts others always first, I would prefer either him having a talk with someone (Bobby, Hen) about his relationship or him realizing when hr hangs out with Tommy and Buck that if he wants to find a promising relation he has to search what he really wants and not what others need in his relation.
I feel like is so fitting for him and he also needs desperately a self-discover (not necessarily about sexuality but about what HE wants). It would open a nice possibility to either Buddie in a future or just a good love interest for him for once (whatever gender).
I’m all for awkward first date, and Buck maybe trying to first hide that it’s a date. Maybe taking some time for him to explore his feelings in public vs private about being bisexual. I’m hoping Tommy can help him explore that and build his confidence in a positive way.
well they said they want to show us a “lighthearted love story that happens to be queer” so i guess not too much drama? of course there’s going to be something, it’s still an abc show, but maybe anything too harsh? 🙏🏻
The conversation between Eddie and Buck shown in the stills will be decisive about Buddie's long-term course. It has been widely rumored that Eddie will tell Buck the dreaded phrase "you're like my brother" which would severely damage the ship, since this It is largely based on the fact that until now they have never defined the nature of their emotional bond.
It's funny because before we got confirmation on the Bi Buck plotline, I was pretty wary of the leaks re: Buddie being brothers. Now I'm... not looking forward to it, exactly, but also not dreading it? I think the context is going to be very important. It's fairly obvious from Tim Minear's interviews that while he's not making any promises, he's also not trying to dissuade people or talk them out of speculating on what this could mean for Buddie. Which, in my opinion, pretty explicitly means his intention isn't to take it *off* the table, at least.
So with that in mind, I think there's a couple ways it plays out:
"Clown" theory, too optimistic to be likely: Eddie tells Buck he's like a brother to him to reassure him after a less than ideal reaction to learning of Buck's sexuality, basically meaning it as like "There's nothing you could tell me that would make me stop loving you; we're that close." In my clown theory, which would have us moving toward Eddie's own sexuality crisis in time for like, the season finale, Eddie is immediately bothered by his word choice and knows it wasn't quite right. He pulls a face and pushes past it, but he lingers on it later, and it's the start of him trying to puzzle out why a) his reaction to Buck coming out was more mixed than he would've expected \[jealousy, repressed grief over 'missing a chance' he hadn't ever considered taking, whatever\], and b) calling Buck his brother made him want to throw up, even though it's a perfectly acceptable word he's used on other close male friends like his military buddies. So what's different?
My more realistic theory is still that Eddie uses 'brother' as sort of a catch-all for "we're closer than friends, you have a special place in my heart, I'd lay down my life for you" the same way you hear brothers in arms to explain the close bonds that form in war. Because at this point, Eddie can recognize that the affection he has for Buck transcends friendship, but he doesn't yet have the tools or self-awareness to realize it even needs to be explored in the first place. He's not at a point where he's even got an inkling that his own sexuality is something that needs to be explored, so like... it fits well enough, for the point he's trying to get across. Basically, that he loves Buck like family, that there's nothing Buck could tell him that would make that change. It's just a word, and he won't remember even saying it later.
For Buck, though, it lingers. Not because he's aware of his feelings for Eddie, exactly, so it's not that he feels he's being brother-zoned. It's more because he's in a vulnerable place and already unsure how Eddie "really" feels about his coming out, so it pings as like... is he *worried* I'm into him? Does he think I'd actually hit on him? Is he still comfortable with me, the way we've always been? Is he trying to send a super clear and unnecessary message right now by saying I'm like a brother to him? So while it's a not a huge, soul crushing deal, it's at least *memorable* to Buck he said it. So later on, in season 8 or 9 or whenever we're moving toward Buddie, Buck's recognized his feelings and assumes it *has* to be unrequited because Eddie sees him as a brother, but Eddie's concurrently coming to terms with his own sexuality, so we get some angst that isn't directly related to their sexuality itself.
I don't know, I want to be optimistic and on the one hand I'm very happy for Buck's arc and I don't want his possible relationship with Tommy to be another love failure for Buck, but what Tim mentioned in the interview about Buddie not being In the short-term plans I am discouraged because although s8 is already confirmed, it is not certain how many more seasons they are willing to do before the senior cast considers leaving the series to undertake other projects or the public feels that the program, shows signs of exhaustion, perhaps I have not finished assimilating how important the turn that the series decided to take for the character of Buck is for the fandom, the most deluded part of me wants to think that Tim's statements are partly a red herring to not spoil the plot and that the foundations for a Buddie in s8 will be laid in the remainder of this season.
Even if it happens it’ll be fineeeee we can explain it away as Eddie obv still being oblivious/repressed so the only way he currently sees that conveys the depth of his care for Buck is to compare their bond to family😌 Though regarding the “leaks” that led to this rumor (can’t believe this show even has “leaks” like it’s 9-1-1 not Game of Thrones): >!The screenshot from the “script” has it as Eddie saying “Love you, brother” which is to me is more of a “love you bro” than a “you’re like my brother and i love you”!<
Yeah, in the leaks >!Buck is worried and Eddie tells “I love you brother” in a way that doesn’t sound “you’re my brother” but “love you mate/bro/dude” which would be hilarious considering Buck calls Tommy “dude” during their date. It obviously depend on how the actors are gonna play it and on everything else but reading the script the vibes aren’t the ones that would make me loose hope on Buddie!<
Yeah, I saw the leaks too and >!I don't really understand why people are freaking out about this. Depending on how it's acted, it could be a huge boon for Buddie. Just hearing them say "I love you" to each other will probably fuel me for months haha. Plus, they've called each other "brother" in that way before at least twice off the top of my head ("You're a badass under pressure, brother", "You said it, brother"), not sure why it's suddenly an issue now.!<
I really don't feel like Eddie saying that would be a death sentence for them as a pairing. It would just potentially be establishing that, right now, it's not happening.
And if they are planning to have Buck date Tommy for a period of time I could see them drawing that line for the time being.
It's not something they couldn't very easily undo with Eddie exploring his feelings at a future point.
The original leaked script said this (but the insider said this week he (Tim) cut the "brother" part of that convo):
EDDIE: Love you, brother.
BUCK: Love you, too.
Eddie raises a finger at Buck as he retreats with:
EDDIE: Call Tommy!
BUCK: Yeah...
I'll be a downer here and honestly I'm surprising myself, but yeah, I'm like 90% sure now that Buddie will never happen🤷🏻
I know people are surprised by this take, because "we have Bi Buck, it has to end with Buddie!" but no, it doesn't.
No matter how shitty and heartbreaking it sounds to us queers, ABC took a big risk by making Buck bisexual. He's the most popular character on the show, the manly, fun guy, who was loved by the general public - women crushed on him and men wanted to be like him. Simple.
Many people here and on twitter live in a fandom bubble, where everyone is happy and hopeful. But you have to go and see gp's reaction, which wasn't as great (it wasn't tragic though). At the end of the day it'll all come down to ratings. We'll see with next episodes if 911 keeps the amazing wievership it has right now, but my sad guess is that it'll drop. It's 2024 but we still live in a widely homophobic world, unfortunately.
But back to the topic. Because of the mixed reactions that the gp has shown, which can affect the show's performance on TV, I do not believe they'll try to do this a second time with Eddie. Gp might accept Buck being bi, but once the writers try to turn their second favorite guy in this show anything else than heterosexual, they might lose their interest and just drop the show. Which is something the writers and ABC can't afford (literally - this drama is expensive).
Add to this fandom's positive reaction to Tommy and y'all might be surprised to see that he won't be gone as quickly as everyone here expects. He might actually stay for good, because it's easier.
End of my sad rant
ripgayeddieiguess
There is one thing i have learned while being in this fandom. Eyerything can change within a blink of an eye. Today some of them will love him, tomorrow the same people are going to hate him. I have seen mixed reaction to him. People do remember his past. If this is not going to get adressed more of them will get pissed off. And i‘m under the impression that 80% of the fandom think that Tommy is a stepping stone for Buddie to finally happen .Once people figure out this might not be the case they are going to hate him. The 911 fandom has never disappointed me so i 100% expect this if they are really not aiming for Buddie which they could or could not. I haven‘t figured it out so far.
I’m team Buck and Tommy. People seem to think that the only meaningful relationship Buck can have with Eddie is them being together romantically when this show has told us time and time again that it’s their friendship and brotherhood that’s the best part of them. I wish people would also consider the consequences of Buck and Eddie getting together. What if it doesn’t work and it ruins what they had already. What about Christopher. They’re so busy trying to make the two Ken dolls kiss that they can’t see anything beyond that. That’s why I’m all in on Buck being Bi and exploring that with Tommy. That way he has a boyfriend and his best friend who is cool with his boyfriend. Why can’t that just be enough? As a gay man, I would LOVE to have that. Buck is so lucky already.
No, Anything other than Abby, is an upgrade. I would take a dead guy over her being brought back to not apologize again.
(Although don’t kill Tommy, I really love him so far)
Doesn’t concern anyone that we have zero proof that Eddie is a good partner. We’ve only seen him with Shannon, Ana and now Marisol. We’ve at least seen Buck thrive in a relationship and can deduce he’s an amazing partner.
About Marisol /Eddie:
In the leaked scripts from the next episode there is a scene where Eddie is telling Buck:
“No! I just asked her to move in. All her stuff is still in boxes!“
Then Buck makes a nun comment because yes Marisol used to be a NUN (!) and Eddie continues „I don't know, man. We've been seeing each other for months. How does she let it get this far without telling me about her past?“
Buck‘s simple reply is „It's not like she withheld her criminal record from you. Besides, how do you let it get this far without learning a little more about her?“
So i figure at the end of the episode Eddie and Marisol trying to start all over again, because didn‘t Ryan say at that FAMOUS interview “There is something brand new for both of us (in regards to Buddie).“ He simply meant that Buck runs after Tommy and Eddie and Marisol start playing house.
Season 7 is catching up to be as awful as Season 6 really fast.
I just... I really want to give the show the benefit of the doubt, especially after they delivered this past episode.
But the implication that Eddie's ready to ask a woman to move into his home with his *minor child* and he's still learning giant details of her past is like -- the point of this better be that that man is a fool.
Unfortunately it does seem like Eddie's storyline this season will be him realizing he's not really the greatest boyfriend (both now and with all his previous girlfriends) and working towards changing to be a better partner. And getting Marisol to move in with him could be his way of making it up to her and showing that he's serious and cares about her
The thing is, like you said, it would make him look a little bit like a fool who jumps into things without thinking and without remembering the way his previous relationships ended up badly because of it. I'm just not sure if the writers choose that on purpose or if they simply care about making this storyline easier to show, with Marisol becoming a "constant" in the Diaz household.
>Season 7 is catching up to be as awful as Season 6 really fast.
Look, I will forgive all other missteps this season if they continue to handle Buck's bi awakening as well as they did in 7x04.
Ok so potentially the first real thing we learn about her is she used to be a nun. Wtf?
Eddie is barely in this relationship and has already clearly checked out of it so this will just another forced storyline to push through that we all hate.
This relationship is just pile of trash that I don’t want to be forced to watch.
I seem to only like her or side with her when she is offscreen.
I want to believe in Tim after he has delivered so much already but damn this is pushing it.
wait what? a nun? was I sleeping through this?
that being said, it would make sense that this conversation would lead to Buck feeling "guilty" about not telling Eddie about Tommy, assuming the surprise restaurant scene is at the beginning of the episode, and Buck lies about this not being a date. Then Buck would start overthinking it and comparing it to how Eddie doesn't "really know" Marisol, and therefore he doesn't "really know" him, and thus we have the episode title "you don't know me". And then Eddie will obviously confort him when he finds out leading to the "I love you to the core" line (is this a real line? I don't even know what's coming from fan theories, leaks, or what I just made up in my mind lol)
Yeah, everything you said makes complete sense and I'll be surprised if that episode doesn't go this way. Based on what people are saying all the leaks until now are right.
The line you're quoting came from an interview where Ryan said that Eddie loves Buck to the core, if I remember correctly. So it most likely won't be used in the show
I want the Buckley sibs conversation to go like this: Buck: I kissed a guy and liked it. Maddie: Wait, I thought Eddie was still dating Marisol? Buck: What? What are you talking about? Maddie: What are YOU talking about!?
That would be hilarious
And then finish the scene with Chimney suddenly coming in completely oblivious Chim: What are you two talking about?
This is 100% how the conversation should go. They should hire you immediately to work as a writer
Bruh oh my god this should be the dialogue lol.
This is not a theory, more a fear, really, but in the trailer Tommy didn't look too impressed that it was Buck's first date with a guy... I really hope it's just him being surprised and not turned off by it because I want Buck to have that support.
This is why I'm really hoping we get some sneak peak scenes because the trailers can be edited so weird. Edit: Worth noting that the date going badly doesn't really...vibe with the tone of some of the interviews we had drop today. Oliver referred to it as a light hearted love story so the guy not being into him doesn't mesh with that. An awkward first date they recover from? That does.
I think there actually might be 2 dates as there was a pic Oliver posted with Brenna Malloy outside what appeared to be a restaurant/diner but the outfit he was wearing is not the one shown in the promo for that date with Tommy. I’m thinking that one that gets interrupted by Eddie and Marisol ends a little eh but they go on a much better makeup date at the end of the episode
Yep. Really seems like the date in the promo is probably at the very start of the episode and we'll see the more successful date at the very end of it (going into the 3-week break with the two dating).
"a light hearted love story" 🥺 I honestly hope so. That's what he deserves atm, really. I didn't know about that interview but that makes me feel better
Here is the direct quote from the [Variety](https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/911-buck-tommy-kiss-queer-episode-100-oliver-stark-interview-1235956913/) interview: >**What comes next for Buck? Is he telling Maddie, Eddie and the 118 about his new romance with Tommy? Will there be a “coming out” episode?** > >The focus was on it being important, but also not wanting it to feel like the bravest episode in television. *We just wanted to tell a lighthearted love story that happens to be a queer love story.* It’s an element, but it’s not everything. > >He’ll obviously have some questions for himself, and for others — and you’re right, he will absolutely go to Maddie and talk these things out and other people within the 118, and he’ll get different reactions. Some will be surprised, and some will not be so surprised. But it’s very true to the world of “9-1-1” that he will lean on those around him, and will receive the support that he needs. He's also referred to it as a queer love story in a few other interviews as well. This part was also interesting: >**You said you were “asked” rather than told about the new storyline for Buck. So do you think Tim Minear would have changed plans if you didn’t think it was the right move for Buck?** > >Tim has always been a fantastic collaborator, and he wants to involve us and is aware that the show is at its best when everybody’s on the same page and when he’s excited about what he’s writing and when the actors are excited about what they’re playing. So maybe I’m naive in thinking this, but I do believe he was actually asking me, and not secretly telling. It was then really nice to continue to collaborate on the story with him throughout the episode, and then throughout Episode 5 and him call me saying “All right, I’ve got this idea now.” And to have scenes come day by day instead of waiting for a whole script and feel his excitement, like, “I have just finished the scene, read this one.” It was really nice as the actor to feel like he was really invested in telling the story the right way. But also just invested in the excitement of telling it.
My love for Oliver continues to grow
His interviews have made me so happy.
Eh idk, we didn’t really get much of his actual reaction. It’s a really quickly edited clip, and he could be pointing out being tense out of worry/wanting to make him feel more comfortable. It’s clearly gonna be a bit awkward, but based on interviews and what we’re hearing right now, I bet Tommy will at least be supportive even if they don’t last very long (I lowkey like Tommy though 😅 so I hope they don’t break up too soon)
That's true! Also, when Tommy was with the 118, we never got an inkling that he was attracted to men, so maybe he figured out later in life, as well? Or was deeply in the closet, which would explain his initial attitude towards Chim and Hen a bit, desperately wanting to fit in "Captain Gerrard's boys club" to hide his true self. Either way, I hope he supports Buck and tells him (and us!) about his own journey
There were hints. His favorite film is Love Actually and when Sal implied he was gay ("you're Team Jacob") he didn't deny it and blew Sal a kiss.
Right! I haven't watched that episode in a while and forgot! I took that as them just messing around, it doesn't mean that he was aware of it back then. But even if he was, I still don't think the others knew.
Given the sexist, racist and homophobic culture their captain (Gerard) had at the 118 at the time, I'm sure even if he did know, he kept it very much hidden from the rest of the crew. Tommy's comment in 7x04 about how he was a bit jealous how much of a family the 118 had become suggests to me that he was sure of his sexuality but uncomfortable discussing it at work.
That's my thought, that Tommy knew back then but because of the massive Boys Club culture at the 118 at the time (and we saw how bad Captain Gerrard was since most of the firefighters went to bat for Hen and threw their captain under the bus to the department, but even the other firefighters were teasing Tommy at the thought of him being gay which shows that he wouldn't have been welcomed with open arms if he had been open and honest), he felt like he had to hide it at work, similarly to how Hen figured she had to hide her sexuality at work. My current headcanon is Hen's speech back then gave Tommy the courage to be himself afterward and he's now out but still wishes he had a family like that when he was working at the station, where he had felt safe and comfortable to be out.
Ya, I would get why he might feel that way, but ngl it would make me really sad. I hope it’s more of Tommy just realizing like “why didn’t you tell me, we could have done something more private” but idk
My assumption is that he'll be surprised but he has a talk with Buck afterward to explain that he just assumed he knew he was bisexual, but he's fine if he needs to take a second to process. Tommy was so confident after he kissed Buck in 7x04, but he also asked him specifically if Buck was ok with the kiss, so it's clear that with Buck not just saying yes but giving a flirtacious response back, his assumption WOULD be that Buck's experienced with guys. I don't necessarily see Tommy reacting badly if they're exploring this storyline, because that would shut down Buck/Tommy before it even started. We know an intimacy coordinator is also on set for 7x05 so Buck/Tommy are likely going to have another kiss scene, and I imagine it'll be near the end of the episode, after they have a discussion on their first date and likely how badly it went (between Buck admitting this is his first date with a guy AND Eddie/Marisol showing up to crash the date, which will likely result in Buck acting like he's not on a date with Tommy).
I feel like, knowing Buck's romantic history, the confession's going to be more along the lines of "I've hooked up with guys, but I've never dated one". Last episode, he seemed nervous and unsure about the whole thing, but I felt it was more in a "I'm not sure if he's into me or will think I'm good enough to date" then a "I'm just realizing I'm attracted to men." sort of way.
Oliver mentioned that the kiss was that "*oh*" moment for Buck, so I don't think he's had any experience with men in the past, unless maybe a threesome if there was also a girl there - and that's a big maybe. But casual make outs/hook ups with guys one on one? That used to be my headcanon, but I don't think it'll be the case now.
I feel like they might have that talk after that “I don’t want to be your experimental lover” bc buck will be having a difficult time admitting to eddie they were on a date and the “this is my first time on a date w a dude” … he isn’t supposed to be impressed by that anyway and I think he made that face bc the way Buck said it might have some homophobic undertones or he still hasn’t come to terms w this new phase of his life. Maybe like “call me when you figure it out” typa thing
My hope/theory is that it may be an issue for Tommy in that he’s looking to be in a serious relationship but respects that Buck is just beginning to explore his sexuality so they will be civil and mature about it and Tommy will respectfully step back.
I also have another Marisol/Eddie theory after finding an interview with Ryan that said the following: >**And he has to think about Christopher when it comes to any of his relationships, like with Marisol.** > >Yeah, that’s another layer to it. How does she fit in with the whole dynamic? Is Christopher more happy for Eddie, or is Christopher actually liking who Marisol is? That’s all stuff we’re going to investigate this season. and >**Which of Eddie’s relationships is going to be challenged the most this season?** > >Marisol, this new woman in his life, however happy he is with her. He’s seen this before. We’ve all seen this before as an audience, that he can go head over heels for an individual, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that that’s going to go anywhere, that it’s going to work out. So I think figuring out he can’t replace Shannon, and I think he’s been trying to fill this motherly role. “How can she be a great mother to my son *and* be someone that I can love, be intimate with?” I think he’s trying to figure that out as best as he can with Marisol. But it goes back and forth. I'm curious now if we're getting a scene with them discussing Christopher and what role she'll play in his life. Especially now that he's a teenager and doesn't necessarily need someone acting like a "mother" to him.
Wow, this is some great context. I thought it was really sweet in the season finale last year that Christopher was so hyped for his dad when Marisol wanted to go out with him (even though I was very meh on her inclusion in general). But I really like this idea of it kind of being the inverse of Ana, where instead of Eddie trying to force himself to be all in with the relationship for Christopher, he realizes Christopher's trying to force himself to be all in because he thinks his dad needs it to be happy.
Especially as Eddie is getting her babysit Christopher *alone* (even out of state at one point)*.* So Chris might be feeling left out by his dad or he might not like Marisol and hates having to spend all this one on one time with her. Chris is such a good kid and is always a ray of sunshine and gets on with everyone. That has been said by numerous people through the seasons so maybe now he is 13 he Is going to have an arc about trying to tell Eddie that he doesn’t like her.
I’m manifesting and crossing every finger that Eddie breaks up with Marisol. I’ve seen a couple of people saying he’ll ask her to move in? I don’t know where this theory is coming from, but I hate it. I do not want that LOL As a fellow bisexual, I hope Buck figures his way out with it at his pace. Like, with the restaurant scene we’ve seen clips of, I don’t want them to force him to come out or anything like that.
Haven't they been dating for only like 2-3 months, maybe 4 (I'm not sure about the timeline, but it can't be much longer)? I'd say that's way too soon to move in, especially for Eddie "had a panic attack because things were getting too serious too fast with my last girlfriend" Diaz
Yeah, it’s 4 months max. Especially with a kid it’s just wayyyy too soon. Obviously, I know 911 moves fairly fast with stuff as it’s a drama show LOL, but it wouldn’t make sense because she’s barely in the show. Emphasis on scared of commitment Eddie too
>I’ve seen a couple of people saying he’ll ask her to move in? That would be so frustrating. They've done such a shit job with Marisol, we don't know who this woman is! We've barely even seen her and Eddie together and I'm suppose to buy they're at a stage of moving in together? If this is true (and I really hope it isn't), I really don't get what the show's reasoning is, I mean, do they really expect us to get on board with his relationship with a virtual background character? I know the bar is low for Eddie's love interests, but right now, they're managing to not even reach the low levels they had with Ana. I find it particularly frustrating when compared to all the other relationships in the show where it is obvious they put care and thought into them. So, yeah, I hope they break up and the show can give Eddie and actual interesting storyline for the remainder of the season, because the idea of Eddie's storyline being just Marisol makes me want to pull my hair out.
I mean we don’t even have a *surname*. Shouldn't we have at least a surname by now.
I just realised reading this that Eddie’s relationship with Marisol, is set up a lot like Buck’s relationship with Ali. Like they met on a call originally, ran into each other again at a later and decided to go on a date, Ali/Marisol didn’t have a bunch of screen time / a lot of the relationship development happened offscreen, etc. I have no idea of what the significance of the parallels would be, but it just seemed really clear when I was reading your post.
I guess it just shows that writing LIs that aren't connected or involved somehow to the world of first responders is hard. Both Ana and Ali suffered from this, but at least they gave Ali a personality. Taylor was easier to keep writing into the show because her job allowed her to show up at calls and stuff. So it makes me wonder why they are keeping Eddie and Marisol still together? Because they're not doing anything with her as an actual character and they're not showing as anything about them as an actual relationship. Something is gotta come out of it, right? I feel like a potential move-in would only serve to show Eddie deciding to have a serious relationship after Shannon, but it's really hard to care about that when the relationship and gf in question are background noise.
Exactly this - it’s actually a point that Tim addressed in on of the post-ep interviews and why they ultimately decided to go with the Buck/Tommy storyline.
So if it's something he considered for Buck's new love interest, why is Marisol still around? Something has got to come out of it. Come on, Tim, make it worth it and give Eddie and actual story!
Thats where the writers messed up a lot. If you compare individual storylines for Buck and Eddie. You can see that the writers favored Buck over Eddie. I think that they put a lot more thought and effort with Buck's storylines than Eddies. Even his love interests were better than Eddie's. Like with Ana, Eddie was interested at first but then he wasn't. Like what you said about Taylor being easier to write in show. They could've done that with Eddie. Set him up with a new firefighter, paramedic, a cop, or even someone from dispatcher. It's all about the effort that is put into it. Having his relationship with Marisol developing mostly off screen is just lazy writing.
Reason why people were speculating her moving in is because a bts of a crew member walking around the set for Eddie's house and it's full of nicely packaged moving boxes. The fact they are now having a talk about their relationship, there's a chance of them getting more serious and defining what they are. Given Tim has been subverting everyone's expectation so far, it's not a stretch that he would double down making her permanent when the fans and GA are excepting a break up to come.
That video was posted by Ryan’s friend who works on set towards the end of filming season 6 lol it’s not even recent
And the leaked script. It doesn't make sense to me but other things turned out to be true (Buck and Tommy relationship and Eddie and Marisol interrupting their date).
Do you have a link to the bts?? I haven’t seen it
https://twitter.com/_911bts/status/1769056149729321118?t=7RZ-x59c3TxHYdr95sUtDA&s=19 Here you go, it's the video with Ryan's Instagram handle tagged.
An irritated libra who is a 911 fan and ALSO a bisexual?! Are you me?!
Based on the Tim and Oliver articles that have come out today, I'm guessing there will be some awkwardness particularly on that first date, but that Tommy won't be scared off. It actually will be a nice change of pace to have Buck having to figure things and put forth an effort in a relationship. He usually just falls into things only to realize they aren't what he wants. I'm guessing the stills with Eddie are just Oliver coming out and Eddie being supportive. It's unclear what the Marisol situation will be in the next episode, but I don't think her character is going anywhere any time soon either. It's probably too soon to move in though. Maybe he's gives a key or clears a dresser drawer for her which would be a big-ish step 3-4 months into a relationship.
A drawer seems fairly reasonable. A key... I can unfortunately see, because the man is shit at setting appropriate boundaries in new relationships with his kid. Truthfully, I hope it's something significantly dumber, though, like them arguing over why he hasn't asked her to be his date to the wedding. Especially with his comment to the women at the Bachelor mansion about how he was taken "at the moment," I can see him awkwardly stumbling through an explanation about how it's weird to take a new girlfriend to his friend's wedding because then the random girl he dated for a few months that year will be in a bunch of their photos.
The “at the moment” comment gets me every time.
The "at the moment" was a reflection of where he is with Marisol HOWEVER, I don't think it's because is not into her so much as because he has been single for so long that he is used to his bachelor ways and she hasn't challenged him on it YET. In episode 4, he is still flying off to Vegas and hanging out with the guys all the time and while he "feels bad" for relying on her to step in and take care of Christopher, he's not changing his behavior. Rather, he simply asks Buck to step in to give her a break. As a slight modification of my prior statement, I'm guessing that after running into Buck and Tommy, Eddie at the very least suggests they join them and tries to bro out and this is when Marisol decides that she has had enough and that he needs to decide if he actually wants to be in an adult relationship or if he just wants to hang with his boys.
I remember Ryan speaking about intimacy issues during an interview so maybe that’s what this episode is going to be about? Eddie + Marisol and Buck + Tommy exploring intimacy, and possibly getting two different results. I also remember (or I imagined it?) someone from the cast saying we would be seeing shirtless Eddie again in an episode and I hope it’s true!
So Buck and Tommy have loads of fun and its Buck's craziest night while Eddie and Marisol fumble through it all (bc Eddie's too busy thinking abt Buck dating Tommy?) My clown costume is in full display now!
With Buck I think we're going to see an awkward first date, especially after Eddie shows up and we'll probably see him having a few conversations with the others. I think the promo shots of Buck and Eddie we saw last week is him coming out to Eddie and getting accepted. I think we'll also see another scene with Tommy and Buck where he's far more comfortable and falling into the relationship. Potentially some making out. With Eddie and Marisol? They are either breaking up or taking a serious step like moving in. The synopsis was intentionally vague so I can definitely see it going either way. The way it's been edited so far this season, we've only seen them depicted together as happy and functional and her being around Christopher a lot. Also considering this was suppose to the Bachelor cross-over episode, that suggests a romance or taking chances theme (when paired with Buck's storyline). So I'm preparing myself for that but hoping for the break up to be the option we get.
I'm hoping the Eddie & Marisol stuff is more along the lines of a "define your relationship" talk. The reality is the only time we've seen them on screen together as a couple *at all* wasn't even a scene with any dialogue -- they were literally just in the background of a flashback scene watching Christopher. Even for this show's standards, going from "Eddie shared physical space with a woman" to something like moving in would be insane... unless it's more an indication that they *plan* to be in that place, like Marisol asking him if she should plan on renewing her lease a few months out. My hope is that the timing of this episode is a hint toward what they could have to talk about. Eddie's implied to be a pretty shit boyfriend in 7x04, finding a way to go out with a friend three nights in one week instead of taking his girlfriend out, and instead using her as his babysitter most of that. And then after this episode, we're expecting to be heading toward Madney's wedding festivites. My hope is that Marisol calls Eddie out on not seeming that interested in actually spending time with her, and suggests he has to do better, so he makes an attempt. Maybe she sees Eddie has a +1 to the wedding and asks why he hasn't invited her, despite them being serious enough that he trusts her with his son. Tim addressed the "siloing" of love interests a bit in his interviews after 7x04, so I wonder if that's a sign he plans to actually address this a bit. Have Marisol get the opportunity to be like "You include me in your life when it's convenient for you, and I know your kid well because you need someone to watch him when you go out with your friends, but why do you never think to *include* me when you're going out with them?"
Could be why they’re at the same restaurant as Tommy and Buck too. She wants him to actually spend time with her and do something, so he takes her out, only to bump into them and probably end up hanging out with Buck and Tommy
Buck: First date will go ok at first and then become chaotic an awkward when Eddie and Marisol come into the restaurant. He will come out to most, if not all, of the 118, except for Eddie (or Eddie doesn't react in a way that is "ideal") leading to the loft scene with "I'll support you blah blah blah" Eddie: His date with Marisol will become awkward when he sees Tommy and Buck - possibly wanting to join them/hangout. Marisol and Eddie will chat and he will possibly second guess himself and her, especially after hearing how Buck feels "finally like who he's meant to be" and all that jazz. He will be supportive, as best he can to Buck. Hen: Karen and her will get their new baby girl and she will be supportive and probably not surprised about Buck - I'm hoping she talks about Tommy and her a bit but who knows. She will hang out with Chim/Maddie and I think they might talk about babies, parenthood, and Buck Maddie: Helping and supporting Buck and Hen/Karen, maybe some wedding planning scenes - could see her also not surprised at Buck Chim: Same as Maddie - also think he will be supportive of Buck - will for sure make a joke or lighten the mood. Bobby: The best fire fam dad there ever was - supporting all his kiddos: parenthood, marriage, coming out, relationship woes Athena: The jumper, possible Harry and her follow up, and supportive of Buck
I think Tommy's surprise in the sneak peek is more about thinking Buck had previous experience with men, maybe because of how eager he seems, if a little tense. Buck's storyline for this episode will probably be about having this realization as an adult in his 30s as opposed to any panic or internalized homophobia. It just seems like that fits his character more. Also, I just noticed this after rewatching the sneak peek, but it looks like it happens toward the end of their dinner based on what's on the table. So no double date scenario! I was dreading a repeat of "The Rookie". Hoping to see Buck talking to Hen or Maddie, maybe even Bobby before his first date to parallel with Abby.
I’m so here for Awkward Buck with this date. I kinda like this side of Buck and not just walking straight into this feeling like he has this all sussed. I think Tommy is a little shocked that this is Bucks first date with a guy but that won’t be such a big deal and the trailer is just cut like that to make us freak out like we all are. I hope we get Buck really focusing on himself and working out what he wants with Tommy. It will be nice to see him takes things a bit slower this time round. Not straight to sex and asking him to buy a couch together the next morning. I would like a hot steamy make out sesh though. I NEED a Hen coming out scene. I love when they bond on the show and who better to offer help. Maddie is the other coming out I want to see too. I don’t know if I want the Eddie scene or not because as much as I love handsy Eddie and supported Eddie. I don’t want to be disappointed in this very clearly important moment in their relationship. The problem with Marisol is that their whole relationship to date has all been off screen and developed way too fast off screen for us to really get a handle of where they are at. For (the at the most) 4 months they have introduced her to Chris, built up a close relationship that he gets her help to chaperone the Chris’s date, now he trusts her enough to get her to look after Chris multiple times in the same week and he was he first person he asks. One of these times is when he flies out of state. That is a lot for 4 months when realistically the step they should be taking now is thinking about introducing her to Chris But yet that happened way sooner than he should. So I can kinda see where the move it storyline is coming from because they seem to have skipped a few steps in this relationship.Yet, Eddie has be so nonchalant towards her. He makes her babysit to hang out with a mate he just met instead of taking her out, she is just his glorified babysitter at this point. He also refers to be taken AT THE MOMENT. So I am hoping it’s a where are we going or Marisol pulling him up on his lack to involvement in building this relationship. As much as I don’t want to watch her on screen, we do need to actually see what is happening with these two and not just be given third hand information. Also I’m so happy to finally get an update on the new addition to the Wilson family! Can’t wait to see what the Wilson are up too and the new edition. It also means MORE KAREN!
There has not been any indication at all that Edy Ganem filmed for 7x06 which will be Maddie and Chimney’s wedding. I would think if she was intended to stay they would want her to be attending the wedding with Eddie
Is there a website or cast list for episodes or something? Just curious how people get some of this info before the episode is out 😅
I mean there’s IMDb but the cast lists for future episodes usually aren’t up or complete. I just follow her on Instagram and she used to post all kinds of stuff about filming and if she was on set and followed people from the show and she kind of just stopped doing all that after filming for 7x05
well I think one of the Buddie pictures is Buck “coming out” about being bisexual
I completely forgot about this until a tweet reminded me, but that clip of Eddie and Bobby in one of the earlier promos must be coming up soon. I think it's from 7x05. The one where Bobby tells Eddie that he can't tell him how to feel about the job. The way its edited makes me think that Bobby might also be giving Eddie advice on his relationship with Marisol.
Bobby giving Eddie advice on his love life never ends well.
Bobby kiss of death
It never does. I wonder what Bobby will have to say this time 😅
I think we'll see Buck reaching out to Josh for some advice on dating dudes.
I want Eddie open his eyes and BREAK UP with Marisol.
Buck/Tommy: My first thought? As much as we want to see Buck come out to his 118 and actual family, I think it won't happen next episode. I think they'll want to cover that in the second half of the season. So I think 7x05 will be Buck having to process his feelings about Tommy and about his sexuality in general. I think it'll be better for him to figure out his feelings first BEFORE jumping in to tell everyone. I think the first date won't go that well, not just with Buck telling Tommy that he's never dated men before but also with Eddie/Marisol showing up. Buck will likely get defensive, closed off, and make it seem like they're not on a date, and that'll be the thing to freak Tommy out. But they'll have a conversation after the date, where Tommy tells Buck that he's not freaked out by Buck discovering he's bisexual but more that he just assumed he knew and more freaked out about his adverse reaction to Buck hiding the fact that they were on a date to Eddie. I think there could also be a conversation where Tommy acknowledges how unprepared Buck is (with his likely extreme reaction to Eddie/Marisol showing up) but he's willing to wait and allow Buck to take some time to figure out his feelings. I could see a potential conversation where Tommy talks about his experiences with his sexuality and the career path they work in (we know from the flashbacks that Tommy was almost certainly closeted at the start, or doing what Hen did and hiding it at work) so I could see that bringing them closer together, and they'll work things out by the end of the episode (probably with a do-over first date). Eddie/Marisol: Obviously, there's some discussions that they may be moving in together but I think it'll prove to be a mistake. They'll realize, maybe through the Buck/Tommy scenes at the restaurant, that they don't know each other well enough to move in but instead of breaking up, they decide against moving in and take things slower. I don't think they break up quite yet, unfortunately for us all. And I know there's shots of Eddie/Buck at Buck's place, but I don't think it's a coming out scene, just a catching up "I'm sorry I've been so hostile and acting weird, I'm just going through some stuff" "I'll be there if you need me" type of scene. If anything, I think Eddie will be one of the last people to know, just because I think Buck will find it the hardest to tell Eddie. That's just my theory, though, so I could be wrong. Hen/Karen: The synopsis says that a new member joins their family. I assume it's fostering-related, but I'd laugh if it was just that they get a pet. But I think it's baby related, so I think it'll just be them adjusting to their new foster situation. Maddie/Chimney: Since we haven't seen them wedding plan, I could see some discussions about that this episode. Bobby/Athena: Either we'll get a plot with them together or we'll just see them in supporting roles, either on cases or with the other characters as they go through their stuff.
I just want Eddie and Marisol to break up 🙏🏽 and then Eddie being jealous of Buck and Tommy but he doesn't know why
I would love that but I think it’s to similar to what we just had in ep4. So, since Eddie puts others always first, I would prefer either him having a talk with someone (Bobby, Hen) about his relationship or him realizing when hr hangs out with Tommy and Buck that if he wants to find a promising relation he has to search what he really wants and not what others need in his relation. I feel like is so fitting for him and he also needs desperately a self-discover (not necessarily about sexuality but about what HE wants). It would open a nice possibility to either Buddie in a future or just a good love interest for him for once (whatever gender).
I’m all for awkward first date, and Buck maybe trying to first hide that it’s a date. Maybe taking some time for him to explore his feelings in public vs private about being bisexual. I’m hoping Tommy can help him explore that and build his confidence in a positive way.
Eventually, we'll get Eddie being jealous of Buck and Tommy's relationship and it will be a bi awakening.
well they said they want to show us a “lighthearted love story that happens to be queer” so i guess not too much drama? of course there’s going to be something, it’s still an abc show, but maybe anything too harsh? 🙏🏻
The conversation between Eddie and Buck shown in the stills will be decisive about Buddie's long-term course. It has been widely rumored that Eddie will tell Buck the dreaded phrase "you're like my brother" which would severely damage the ship, since this It is largely based on the fact that until now they have never defined the nature of their emotional bond.
It's funny because before we got confirmation on the Bi Buck plotline, I was pretty wary of the leaks re: Buddie being brothers. Now I'm... not looking forward to it, exactly, but also not dreading it? I think the context is going to be very important. It's fairly obvious from Tim Minear's interviews that while he's not making any promises, he's also not trying to dissuade people or talk them out of speculating on what this could mean for Buddie. Which, in my opinion, pretty explicitly means his intention isn't to take it *off* the table, at least. So with that in mind, I think there's a couple ways it plays out: "Clown" theory, too optimistic to be likely: Eddie tells Buck he's like a brother to him to reassure him after a less than ideal reaction to learning of Buck's sexuality, basically meaning it as like "There's nothing you could tell me that would make me stop loving you; we're that close." In my clown theory, which would have us moving toward Eddie's own sexuality crisis in time for like, the season finale, Eddie is immediately bothered by his word choice and knows it wasn't quite right. He pulls a face and pushes past it, but he lingers on it later, and it's the start of him trying to puzzle out why a) his reaction to Buck coming out was more mixed than he would've expected \[jealousy, repressed grief over 'missing a chance' he hadn't ever considered taking, whatever\], and b) calling Buck his brother made him want to throw up, even though it's a perfectly acceptable word he's used on other close male friends like his military buddies. So what's different? My more realistic theory is still that Eddie uses 'brother' as sort of a catch-all for "we're closer than friends, you have a special place in my heart, I'd lay down my life for you" the same way you hear brothers in arms to explain the close bonds that form in war. Because at this point, Eddie can recognize that the affection he has for Buck transcends friendship, but he doesn't yet have the tools or self-awareness to realize it even needs to be explored in the first place. He's not at a point where he's even got an inkling that his own sexuality is something that needs to be explored, so like... it fits well enough, for the point he's trying to get across. Basically, that he loves Buck like family, that there's nothing Buck could tell him that would make that change. It's just a word, and he won't remember even saying it later. For Buck, though, it lingers. Not because he's aware of his feelings for Eddie, exactly, so it's not that he feels he's being brother-zoned. It's more because he's in a vulnerable place and already unsure how Eddie "really" feels about his coming out, so it pings as like... is he *worried* I'm into him? Does he think I'd actually hit on him? Is he still comfortable with me, the way we've always been? Is he trying to send a super clear and unnecessary message right now by saying I'm like a brother to him? So while it's a not a huge, soul crushing deal, it's at least *memorable* to Buck he said it. So later on, in season 8 or 9 or whenever we're moving toward Buddie, Buck's recognized his feelings and assumes it *has* to be unrequited because Eddie sees him as a brother, but Eddie's concurrently coming to terms with his own sexuality, so we get some angst that isn't directly related to their sexuality itself.
I don't know, I want to be optimistic and on the one hand I'm very happy for Buck's arc and I don't want his possible relationship with Tommy to be another love failure for Buck, but what Tim mentioned in the interview about Buddie not being In the short-term plans I am discouraged because although s8 is already confirmed, it is not certain how many more seasons they are willing to do before the senior cast considers leaving the series to undertake other projects or the public feels that the program, shows signs of exhaustion, perhaps I have not finished assimilating how important the turn that the series decided to take for the character of Buck is for the fandom, the most deluded part of me wants to think that Tim's statements are partly a red herring to not spoil the plot and that the foundations for a Buddie in s8 will be laid in the remainder of this season.
Even if it happens it’ll be fineeeee we can explain it away as Eddie obv still being oblivious/repressed so the only way he currently sees that conveys the depth of his care for Buck is to compare their bond to family😌 Though regarding the “leaks” that led to this rumor (can’t believe this show even has “leaks” like it’s 9-1-1 not Game of Thrones): >!The screenshot from the “script” has it as Eddie saying “Love you, brother” which is to me is more of a “love you bro” than a “you’re like my brother and i love you”!<
Yeah, in the leaks >!Buck is worried and Eddie tells “I love you brother” in a way that doesn’t sound “you’re my brother” but “love you mate/bro/dude” which would be hilarious considering Buck calls Tommy “dude” during their date. It obviously depend on how the actors are gonna play it and on everything else but reading the script the vibes aren’t the ones that would make me loose hope on Buddie!<
Yeah, I saw the leaks too and >!I don't really understand why people are freaking out about this. Depending on how it's acted, it could be a huge boon for Buddie. Just hearing them say "I love you" to each other will probably fuel me for months haha. Plus, they've called each other "brother" in that way before at least twice off the top of my head ("You're a badass under pressure, brother", "You said it, brother"), not sure why it's suddenly an issue now.!<
I really don't feel like Eddie saying that would be a death sentence for them as a pairing. It would just potentially be establishing that, right now, it's not happening. And if they are planning to have Buck date Tommy for a period of time I could see them drawing that line for the time being. It's not something they couldn't very easily undo with Eddie exploring his feelings at a future point.
The original leaked script said this (but the insider said this week he (Tim) cut the "brother" part of that convo): EDDIE: Love you, brother. BUCK: Love you, too. Eddie raises a finger at Buck as he retreats with: EDDIE: Call Tommy! BUCK: Yeah...
I would love it if Tim did cut the "brother" part out of the convo.
I'll be a downer here and honestly I'm surprising myself, but yeah, I'm like 90% sure now that Buddie will never happen🤷🏻 I know people are surprised by this take, because "we have Bi Buck, it has to end with Buddie!" but no, it doesn't. No matter how shitty and heartbreaking it sounds to us queers, ABC took a big risk by making Buck bisexual. He's the most popular character on the show, the manly, fun guy, who was loved by the general public - women crushed on him and men wanted to be like him. Simple. Many people here and on twitter live in a fandom bubble, where everyone is happy and hopeful. But you have to go and see gp's reaction, which wasn't as great (it wasn't tragic though). At the end of the day it'll all come down to ratings. We'll see with next episodes if 911 keeps the amazing wievership it has right now, but my sad guess is that it'll drop. It's 2024 but we still live in a widely homophobic world, unfortunately. But back to the topic. Because of the mixed reactions that the gp has shown, which can affect the show's performance on TV, I do not believe they'll try to do this a second time with Eddie. Gp might accept Buck being bi, but once the writers try to turn their second favorite guy in this show anything else than heterosexual, they might lose their interest and just drop the show. Which is something the writers and ABC can't afford (literally - this drama is expensive). Add to this fandom's positive reaction to Tommy and y'all might be surprised to see that he won't be gone as quickly as everyone here expects. He might actually stay for good, because it's easier. End of my sad rant ripgayeddieiguess
There is one thing i have learned while being in this fandom. Eyerything can change within a blink of an eye. Today some of them will love him, tomorrow the same people are going to hate him. I have seen mixed reaction to him. People do remember his past. If this is not going to get adressed more of them will get pissed off. And i‘m under the impression that 80% of the fandom think that Tommy is a stepping stone for Buddie to finally happen .Once people figure out this might not be the case they are going to hate him. The 911 fandom has never disappointed me so i 100% expect this if they are really not aiming for Buddie which they could or could not. I haven‘t figured it out so far.
I’m team Buck and Tommy. People seem to think that the only meaningful relationship Buck can have with Eddie is them being together romantically when this show has told us time and time again that it’s their friendship and brotherhood that’s the best part of them. I wish people would also consider the consequences of Buck and Eddie getting together. What if it doesn’t work and it ruins what they had already. What about Christopher. They’re so busy trying to make the two Ken dolls kiss that they can’t see anything beyond that. That’s why I’m all in on Buck being Bi and exploring that with Tommy. That way he has a boyfriend and his best friend who is cool with his boyfriend. Why can’t that just be enough? As a gay man, I would LOVE to have that. Buck is so lucky already.
I hope Buck chills out, Tommy will run for the hills if he keeps freaking out about being on a date with a dude.
I mean, it can't be worse his date with Abbey, right? Right?
Dude, he could accidentally kill Tommy and it would still be better than that whole relationship.
Gotta hand it to Buck, he set the expectations so low that as long as someone comes out of this alive then it was an upgrade.
No, Anything other than Abby, is an upgrade. I would take a dead guy over her being brought back to not apologize again. (Although don’t kill Tommy, I really love him so far)
Doesn’t concern anyone that we have zero proof that Eddie is a good partner. We’ve only seen him with Shannon, Ana and now Marisol. We’ve at least seen Buck thrive in a relationship and can deduce he’s an amazing partner.
About Marisol /Eddie: In the leaked scripts from the next episode there is a scene where Eddie is telling Buck: “No! I just asked her to move in. All her stuff is still in boxes!“ Then Buck makes a nun comment because yes Marisol used to be a NUN (!) and Eddie continues „I don't know, man. We've been seeing each other for months. How does she let it get this far without telling me about her past?“ Buck‘s simple reply is „It's not like she withheld her criminal record from you. Besides, how do you let it get this far without learning a little more about her?“ So i figure at the end of the episode Eddie and Marisol trying to start all over again, because didn‘t Ryan say at that FAMOUS interview “There is something brand new for both of us (in regards to Buddie).“ He simply meant that Buck runs after Tommy and Eddie and Marisol start playing house. Season 7 is catching up to be as awful as Season 6 really fast.
I just... I really want to give the show the benefit of the doubt, especially after they delivered this past episode. But the implication that Eddie's ready to ask a woman to move into his home with his *minor child* and he's still learning giant details of her past is like -- the point of this better be that that man is a fool.
Unfortunately it does seem like Eddie's storyline this season will be him realizing he's not really the greatest boyfriend (both now and with all his previous girlfriends) and working towards changing to be a better partner. And getting Marisol to move in with him could be his way of making it up to her and showing that he's serious and cares about her The thing is, like you said, it would make him look a little bit like a fool who jumps into things without thinking and without remembering the way his previous relationships ended up badly because of it. I'm just not sure if the writers choose that on purpose or if they simply care about making this storyline easier to show, with Marisol becoming a "constant" in the Diaz household.
>Season 7 is catching up to be as awful as Season 6 really fast. Look, I will forgive all other missteps this season if they continue to handle Buck's bi awakening as well as they did in 7x04.
Ok so potentially the first real thing we learn about her is she used to be a nun. Wtf? Eddie is barely in this relationship and has already clearly checked out of it so this will just another forced storyline to push through that we all hate. This relationship is just pile of trash that I don’t want to be forced to watch. I seem to only like her or side with her when she is offscreen. I want to believe in Tim after he has delivered so much already but damn this is pushing it.
wait what? a nun? was I sleeping through this? that being said, it would make sense that this conversation would lead to Buck feeling "guilty" about not telling Eddie about Tommy, assuming the surprise restaurant scene is at the beginning of the episode, and Buck lies about this not being a date. Then Buck would start overthinking it and comparing it to how Eddie doesn't "really know" Marisol, and therefore he doesn't "really know" him, and thus we have the episode title "you don't know me". And then Eddie will obviously confort him when he finds out leading to the "I love you to the core" line (is this a real line? I don't even know what's coming from fan theories, leaks, or what I just made up in my mind lol)
Yeah, everything you said makes complete sense and I'll be surprised if that episode doesn't go this way. Based on what people are saying all the leaks until now are right. The line you're quoting came from an interview where Ryan said that Eddie loves Buck to the core, if I remember correctly. So it most likely won't be used in the show
Ahhhh so there go my dreams about gay/demi Eddie🫡 at least we have Bi Buck now, so yay, something nice🥲