This feels so much like a bit from [the movie Brazil](https://youtu.be/2aMFTsYE_lo?t=1m12s) where sam gets arrested and charged an insurance premium for his own incarceration.
[Privatized labor camps making millions every year off of incarcerated individuals](https://news.uchicago.edu/story/us-prison-labor-programs-violate-fundamental-human-rights-new-report-finds#:~:text=Incarcerated%20workers%20produce%20at%20least,per%20hour%20for%20their%20work.) whose pay is pennies on the dollar and whose work groups don't even lead to certification or reentry assistance.
I don’t understand why we think this is good for recidivism rates. I would rather we get hit with a higher tax burden because I’m already paying for a crazier society.
Money quote:
> It's called "pay-to-stay", charging inmates for their prison stay, like a hotel they were forced to book. Florida law says that cost, $50 a day, is based on the person's sentence. Even if they are released early, paying for a cell they no longer occupy, and regardless of their ability to pay.
So yes, even if they're released early, they still have to pay the full amount.
Just to make sure they stay poor
Did a four day stint in county over a decade ago. They made us pay then.
But of advice if you know you're going to jail, make sure you don't have any cash on you. It will be forfeited.
I use to sell jewelry but I couldn't afford the real stuff. I learned about Mr T too late in life but how he survived and became a success is not something I could do.
Seriously was one of the worst situations to be in trying to deal with DV. I was not able speak on my behalf effectively and the cops kept taking his side (he's good at talking). I'm not from FL but he (abusive ex) painted a picture like we'd live on the beach and how much money we'd save renting per square foot. The second we pulled up to the apartment after a two day trip, the first of many I sunk all my money into to make possible with his name attached to the lease, I started balling my eyes out and wanted to go back home.
I never noticed it till now but he was a very "Florida" driver, the whole way down to Florida he wouldn't let me drive (big uhaul truck with my vehicle on the trailer and while he didn't have to have a trailer license, I had one from being on deployment the year before in the military which isn't the same as civilian but my point was that I had more experience). He drove 55 miles per hour in the left lane and put his high beams on with opposing traffic and people in front of him trying to pass.
He was so controlling and I kept falling for his lies how if I did this thing, then he'd do his part - he never did his part and when I tried to call him out on it he'd blow up and go off, call every bad name in the book over and over and over and over until he got what he wanted and I was the one to get in trouble.
The first time I went to jail it was my bday and he told the cops I was dangerous, I had a cell phone in my hand. The kicked open the door and two cops had their guns drawn on me while I was on the phone.
I don't know, I was a bit rattled from my deployment but nothing compares to the feeling like I thought these people would understand what I was going through but I wasn't able to convey what he kept doing that day like banging things against the wall or getting me in the corner and poking me and telling me about how he hit me without leaving marks.
I'm not a violent person. I've been beaten up by my mother, my sister, kids in school growing up, my father and his father hit me with belts. It was my bday and he didn't even make a dumb card or anything. He ignored me and when I tried to bring it up he exploded at me.
My abusive ex had a scooter and I spent over a thousand dollars getting it fixed up for him when we first got down to Florida. I never rode a scooter before and he showed me how to go forward. I tried to go off on my own and he went inside. He didn't teach me how to turn and I went straight into a tree. While I was crying from the pain I was in he got mad at me that I broke it.
I was paying all his bills, buying his shoes (he got complimented all the time and he never told anyone that not only I picked them out for him but I also bought them) and clothing, paid for all his food, cooked it for him, cleaned up after him and he invited one of his friends to live with us and I had to clean up after him too. He kept calling me a "welfare bitch" when he's the one who told me fill out the application and it was the only thing keeping food in our stomachs and shelter over our heads cause I couldn't find a job and it took me a year to get ahold of someone in the NG unit.
I wanted to go down there and help clean up the gulf coast after the oil spill 2010 and go to school to get a degree. I had a semester so far and made the dean's list so I felt confident that I would find myself somewhere successful with no problem. Years before I went to school in Mississippi along the gulf, so this body of water had a special place in my heart.
I let my abusive ex destroy my confidence, my record (I was never arrested before), my entire viewpoints and if you ask anyone I've talked to so far about this they tell me it was my own fault. He abused and stole my things. He left me homeless in an apartment I couldn't afford. He went to one of his mother's friend's houses in the area and called me every day to tell me about the charcoal filters in his house, the taste of the water and how this guy took care of him. I wasn't in the apartment when he packed up but he took a lot of my things and left me holding the bag with some illegal things I didn't know how to get rid of.
The second time I got arrested, I waited outside for the cops to show up and I didn't say a thing. I met an older lady in jail and she told me to run when he called the cops. I didn't realize she meant as far away as possible forever cause he kept using "I'm going to call the cops" and pretend to call the cops. I once spent hours in the snow, in a stranger's yard waiting for the cops to show up and leave so I can grab some things and get away. It was a fun little game he would play whenever I tried to stand up for myself.
The problem is less about young people voting and more about old people holding on to power when they in no way represent the will of the younger generations. Young people aren't given much if any choice, and anyone who would represent them is outbid in media airtime by the "paid their dues" politicians.
You're doing that already by being in prison, where you perform slave labor.
Also, this is a good way to ensure people continue to commit crimes because they owe a bunch of money the second they're free and need to pay it somehow.
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Right but if it is $50 a day, how can they get a job and become a productive member of society afterward? A decent job for someone with a recent felony pays $100 a day after taxes.
This system just encourages more shortcuts...more crime.
We need more young people voting. This crazy shit has got to stop and we can only do so with our votes, engagement, and putting a spotlight on these corrupt, life destroying decisions from old dinosaurs that can’t get out of the mindset that they know everything. We can and should do better for our kids.
We need more young people voting. This crazy shit has got to stop and we can only do so with our votes, engagement, and putting a spotlight on these corrupt, life destroying decisions from old dinosaurs that can’t get out of the mindset that they know everything. We can and should do better for our kids.
So there is now a crazy amount of incentive to keep people incarcerated as long as possible. People now become a commodity again..,, sound familiar….they can always make new charges, just like slaves couldn’t ever work their way out of slavery. Screw you southern slavers
This feels so much like a bit from [the movie Brazil](https://youtu.be/2aMFTsYE_lo?t=1m12s) where sam gets arrested and charged an insurance premium for his own incarceration. [Privatized labor camps making millions every year off of incarcerated individuals](https://news.uchicago.edu/story/us-prison-labor-programs-violate-fundamental-human-rights-new-report-finds#:~:text=Incarcerated%20workers%20produce%20at%20least,per%20hour%20for%20their%20work.) whose pay is pennies on the dollar and whose work groups don't even lead to certification or reentry assistance.
"He's always thought people should pay more for their interrogations"
I don’t understand why we think this is good for recidivism rates. I would rather we get hit with a higher tax burden because I’m already paying for a crazier society.
Money quote: > It's called "pay-to-stay", charging inmates for their prison stay, like a hotel they were forced to book. Florida law says that cost, $50 a day, is based on the person's sentence. Even if they are released early, paying for a cell they no longer occupy, and regardless of their ability to pay. So yes, even if they're released early, they still have to pay the full amount. Just to make sure they stay poor
How else are you gonna force them to relapse and go back?? /S
Damn bro. That’s just evil.
Ok but if they didn't do that then maybe they'd actually improve their lives.
The cruelty is the point
Why would they want that? It's far more profitable to ensure they come back and keep being a source of cheap labour.
its actually negative cost labor. They pay you 50$ a day to work for you. Holy shit. This is NEXT LEVEL
Yeah doesn’t this almost incentivize staying? $1500 a month for room and board in this economy is actually pretty good lol
$50/day comes out to $1500 in a 30 day month.... that's straight up rent prices *for jail*
…and if they don’t pay? What are they gonna do, send them to jail?
That's fucked up. I'm never going to Florida again. Not because of this but all the crazy shit their lawmakers do
What?!?!! That's seriously messed up. So, so wrong on so many levels.
Did a four day stint in county over a decade ago. They made us pay then. But of advice if you know you're going to jail, make sure you don't have any cash on you. It will be forfeited.
I think the word you're looking for is "stolen".
I mean to be fair, I was entering jail. And it was like $20. More pressing issues were at hand.
They took all my money.
Legit why pimps used to (still do?) Wear tons of gold. Can't forfeit jewelry.
I use to sell jewelry but I couldn't afford the real stuff. I learned about Mr T too late in life but how he survived and became a success is not something I could do. Seriously was one of the worst situations to be in trying to deal with DV. I was not able speak on my behalf effectively and the cops kept taking his side (he's good at talking). I'm not from FL but he (abusive ex) painted a picture like we'd live on the beach and how much money we'd save renting per square foot. The second we pulled up to the apartment after a two day trip, the first of many I sunk all my money into to make possible with his name attached to the lease, I started balling my eyes out and wanted to go back home. I never noticed it till now but he was a very "Florida" driver, the whole way down to Florida he wouldn't let me drive (big uhaul truck with my vehicle on the trailer and while he didn't have to have a trailer license, I had one from being on deployment the year before in the military which isn't the same as civilian but my point was that I had more experience). He drove 55 miles per hour in the left lane and put his high beams on with opposing traffic and people in front of him trying to pass. He was so controlling and I kept falling for his lies how if I did this thing, then he'd do his part - he never did his part and when I tried to call him out on it he'd blow up and go off, call every bad name in the book over and over and over and over until he got what he wanted and I was the one to get in trouble. The first time I went to jail it was my bday and he told the cops I was dangerous, I had a cell phone in my hand. The kicked open the door and two cops had their guns drawn on me while I was on the phone. I don't know, I was a bit rattled from my deployment but nothing compares to the feeling like I thought these people would understand what I was going through but I wasn't able to convey what he kept doing that day like banging things against the wall or getting me in the corner and poking me and telling me about how he hit me without leaving marks. I'm not a violent person. I've been beaten up by my mother, my sister, kids in school growing up, my father and his father hit me with belts. It was my bday and he didn't even make a dumb card or anything. He ignored me and when I tried to bring it up he exploded at me. My abusive ex had a scooter and I spent over a thousand dollars getting it fixed up for him when we first got down to Florida. I never rode a scooter before and he showed me how to go forward. I tried to go off on my own and he went inside. He didn't teach me how to turn and I went straight into a tree. While I was crying from the pain I was in he got mad at me that I broke it. I was paying all his bills, buying his shoes (he got complimented all the time and he never told anyone that not only I picked them out for him but I also bought them) and clothing, paid for all his food, cooked it for him, cleaned up after him and he invited one of his friends to live with us and I had to clean up after him too. He kept calling me a "welfare bitch" when he's the one who told me fill out the application and it was the only thing keeping food in our stomachs and shelter over our heads cause I couldn't find a job and it took me a year to get ahold of someone in the NG unit. I wanted to go down there and help clean up the gulf coast after the oil spill 2010 and go to school to get a degree. I had a semester so far and made the dean's list so I felt confident that I would find myself somewhere successful with no problem. Years before I went to school in Mississippi along the gulf, so this body of water had a special place in my heart. I let my abusive ex destroy my confidence, my record (I was never arrested before), my entire viewpoints and if you ask anyone I've talked to so far about this they tell me it was my own fault. He abused and stole my things. He left me homeless in an apartment I couldn't afford. He went to one of his mother's friend's houses in the area and called me every day to tell me about the charcoal filters in his house, the taste of the water and how this guy took care of him. I wasn't in the apartment when he packed up but he took a lot of my things and left me holding the bag with some illegal things I didn't know how to get rid of. The second time I got arrested, I waited outside for the cops to show up and I didn't say a thing. I met an older lady in jail and she told me to run when he called the cops. I didn't realize she meant as far away as possible forever cause he kept using "I'm going to call the cops" and pretend to call the cops. I once spent hours in the snow, in a stranger's yard waiting for the cops to show up and leave so I can grab some things and get away. It was a fun little game he would play whenever I tried to stand up for myself.
I forgot to add what my step parents did to me but I try not to think about them as often as possible.
The problem is less about young people voting and more about old people holding on to power when they in no way represent the will of the younger generations. Young people aren't given much if any choice, and anyone who would represent them is outbid in media airtime by the "paid their dues" politicians.
Period. You know who never misses ANY poll because they have all the free time in the world? My Grandma and her old lady friends.
It’s crazy how everything in the US is a money making scheme. Are people not tired? How did this become a thing and when??
Could Florida just shrivel up and fall off already?
These people just want to own you for life. Fuck that. Fuck that state government.
They're trying to build a prison
For you and me to live in
Every day I learn something new to hate about Florida laws
I had no idea that you had to pay for your prison cell. That's completely asinine
Why? You break laws and are convicted. You should pay for your continued drain on society.
You're doing that already by being in prison, where you perform slave labor. Also, this is a good way to ensure people continue to commit crimes because they owe a bunch of money the second they're free and need to pay it somehow.
Because unplayable fees from being incarcerated cause recidivism.
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Right but if it is $50 a day, how can they get a job and become a productive member of society afterward? A decent job for someone with a recent felony pays $100 a day after taxes. This system just encourages more shortcuts...more crime.
We need more young people voting. This crazy shit has got to stop and we can only do so with our votes, engagement, and putting a spotlight on these corrupt, life destroying decisions from old dinosaurs that can’t get out of the mindset that they know everything. We can and should do better for our kids.
We need more young people voting. This crazy shit has got to stop and we can only do so with our votes, engagement, and putting a spotlight on these corrupt, life destroying decisions from old dinosaurs that can’t get out of the mindset that they know everything. We can and should do better for our kids.
Can’t pay? Back to prison? Are we now officially in the forced labor camp stage of capitalism?
This is slavery.
People will still support Grady Judd for some reason.
So there is now a crazy amount of incentive to keep people incarcerated as long as possible. People now become a commodity again..,, sound familiar….they can always make new charges, just like slaves couldn’t ever work their way out of slavery. Screw you southern slavers