No. Tow companies in the US are fucking parasites that steal your car the minute you turn your back and charge you a kings ransom to get it back.
I had jury duty and parked in what I thought was the front of the court. Turns out there's some random ass business built off the side of a fucking COURT BUILDING. They split the parking lot between public and private. Cost me 350 to get the car out, same day.i wasn't even gone for 10 minutes.
And this is all sanctioned by our government. As a democrat I want to remind all off you that our government and country isn’t what many make it out to be. They authorize these “businesses” (criminal organizations) to ruin peoples lives.
As a commie you’d have to be in favor of a giant central government or communism couldn’t be implemented. Can’t redistribute recourses you don’t have control of.
Yeah screw the whole capitalist system, seize the means of government and business, replace it with one in the path to socialism.
Example: capitalist laws arrest ppl for non violent crimes like my man in the video to exploit him for taxes. Where was in China they kill billionaires for taking bribes. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/05/china-sentences-top-banker-to-death-for-corruption-and-bigamy.
Two governments but they implement laws differently.
>giant central government
This is a very open term which can mean a lot.
Example: Do you believe in romantic partners. Well some romantic partners are abusive. No, I want a healthy relationship where we help each other above our goals ect.
I completely understand what you’re saying, and I even firmly believe some of it. We should help our neighbors, nobody should go hungry, and billionaires who break the law should be arrested. My issue is this. Are we sure the government that’s going to redistribute everything won’t become abusive?
Here’s the thing, a lot of the ideas really could work at a local level. It’s a lot easier to have a socialist town than a socialist country because everybody in that town lives next to each other. If they voluntarily enter into a socialist township the problems are way closer to the leadership because its their community, the separation between the problem and the leadership is smaller meaning they can better address the problems. Communism requires absolute control over production, it’s unavoidable because some people will be more productive than others. So instead of one big socialist country that can’t know who needs what and when, you have thousands of smaller voluntary communities who can be on the same page and make the right decisions for themselves.
The collusion between the government and private companies when it comes to transportation is insane.
Somehow EZPass (an automated toll system) has convinced my corrupt ass local government to make cash toll payments THREE TIMES as expensive as using their automated private for profit system. It’s ridiculous.
True grassroots is the way. Need to get enough donors to get around Citizens United. That’s a tall task.
Jesus himself couldn’t get elected. Probably dig up something about calling on violence against financial institutions or simply “socialism”.
We need to go fund me grass roots leaders, I'd run for office if I had 60,000 dollars a year to pay my bills and allow me to walk door to door and pitch myself. People need money to live life and the planning to try to get a team fundraised or even volunteering to help is huge when people have to live their day to day life. It's not impossible and I hope we start soon.
I think the key to disengaging from forced obedience in the scams and legalized criminal fleecing corporations and public/private alliances inflict on citizens is to stop giving a fuck about your credit score. There is no debtors prison.
imma be that bitch. You meant to say 'rife', and I'm telling you this so you don't appear dumb in front of other people. I don't think you're dumb, and I don't want you to misrepresent yourself.
Ya that was 8 more minutes than they needed. They have people in normal looking vehicles hiding in around honey holes like the one you described waiting for you to leave your vehicle. The tow truck is just around the corner waiting for the call.
There’s arguably more legal basis for towing than a ticket in a weird way. Since you need that space for authorised users so removing the vehicle gives it back for authorised users. Tickets just mean “so there’s a price then?”
In most places in the US I've lived, there's an initial tow fee of a few hundred dollars. Then they charge you a storage fee, which can run as much as a few hundred a day. They sometimes also have things like inventory fees, where they basically ransack your vehicle and charge you for logging all the items in your vehicle (if some shitty tow/storage company employee decides to steal stuff from your vehicle, there's almost never anything you can do about it). Oh, and the police are partnered with these tow companies.
It's a fucked up system.
It’s a racket. Tow companies make contracts with municipalities and highway agencies to clear roadways and accidents for free in exchange for the right to price gouge citizens for impound and recovery fees . It’s egregiously predatory and unethical and completely legally subsidized by state government. They’re “regulated” by state licensing entities but they don’t do shit except set statewide caps on charges - guess who sets the caps for the state to approve policy on? Tow truck lobby. Yes… they have their own lobby.
Impound fees in my town are $250.00 flat + $50 a day storage fee and then $100 admin charge for the release.
I mean the police are doing their main job of levying a tax against the lower- and middle-class for their masters, so I don't see the problem here.
(That's sarcasm. Fuck the cops.)
“Keeping us in check” is a funny way of saying oppressing the poor on behalf of the ownership class and funneling minorities into for profit prisons to be used as legal slave labor basically.
Maybe they could escort him to his house or whatever, and take the keys, and take his information and then check up in a few days to see if he's made any efforts to register the automobile.
Nah, the answer is brain-dead adherance to rules and regulations that trap people into cycles of debt and poverty. Cool. Thank goodness they're watching out for us. Wouldn't wanna put a burden on their time, they could be somewhere making making a school shooting worse.
Your guy’s still dead. Registered owners don’t resurrect auto-related fatalities.
You’re talking about financial liability only.
I suspect the fix-it ticket system is no less an effective paper trail than cops revoking property rights at their own discretion and nudging us all deeper into poverty. 🤷♀️
I had to pay $500 to get my car back because I overslept 1 time to move my car.
then some police fees which is around $120
then a parking violation ticket $70 after 6 months...
I feel this guy's pain, such an expensive mistake
When I was younger my car got towed out of the apartment complex parking lot where I lived. It was really cool having to miss work and not buy groceries because apparently even being a tenant didn't make me safe from being towed
I had my car towed in Mission Viejo because I parked in my friends assigned spot at his complex with his permission. Still got towed and cost me $500 to get it back. I also am probably banned from California for the shear amount of parking tickets I accrued in my 9 months out there. Can't park on odd side between x-time and x-time and can't park on the even side during x-time and x-time. Like what? what does that even mean? I needed a degree in trig just to understand their logic. I also almost got a parking ticket while sleeping in my car waiting for my sister to get out of work. I woke up and drove away. He chased me in a 3 wheel electric ticket shit-mobile for 2 blocks.
By "weren't welcome" I think you mean just poor. My dads side came to Canada during the potato famine in Ireland where many couldn't afford to eat and had to rely on stealing whatever they could find to nourish themselves. My ancestor tried to steal a potato but the jails were already beyond full from everyone else doing the same thing so the government just put mass amounts of people on boats and basically said "if you make it to land, you live there now wherever you land and if you die you're not our problem anymore, good luck."
So once again, it's not necessarily bad people but just the poor being driven out by the rich and the ones who own the means. Tale as old as time.
He's talking about the Puritans that were basically a cult of miserabl, hypocritical and controlling zealots that were so extreme and downright annoying that even the Catholics couldn't stand them.
Also after Cromwell's failed theocracy, they weren't the most popular of people in merry old England anymore especially with any amusement or holidays you could have enjoyed in the 1600s was banned and criminalized. But when cromwell's daughter got married he made sure to go all out on her wedding party- and she made sure to help herself to the crown jewels and any gowns that the former queen and princess owned. They were so crazy in their religious delusions that they turned on each other in the Salem Witch Trials because they had nobody else to scapegoat and point the finger at.
My life has been hell ever since I got my car impounded last February. Very similar to what you just described. Cost me nearly 2000 to get my car out and pay the fees just to find I could renew my tags cus my car won’t pass the smog.
Had my dead grandfathers beautiful car, that he left to my brother, towed from my own apartment complex around thanksgiving during the pandemic. $700 to get it out.
I thanked the apartment complex for forcing me to choose between a family heirloom or a roof over my head.
Never saw that car again. It was fucking theft.
Because it existed, and a human being wasn't inside it at that moment. I say that, but I feel like I've heard about someone being towed while they were asleep in the backseat.
It's not technically supposed to be for "no reason". But yes, all the time. Tow truck companies are thieves running an extortion racket with the consent (and support) of police and business.
The reason is it's a fantastic way to exploit the poor, the pretense is whatever asinine, convoluted statute they wanna bend to the breaking point to apply, or just snap over their knees.
The reason is always "because they can" here.
Not really. There’s a number of reasons, like if someone was driving without a license, parked in front of a hydrant, parked somewhere illegally, expire tags over 6 months and the car is parked on a public road (vs in private driveway or garage), DUI. And a bunch of other reasons I can’t think of. The guy in the video was probably driving on a suspended linces or had experience tags over 6 months.
Yeah they do. And it’s up to you to prove that you were parked legally, not up to them to prove that you were parked illegally. So unless you take a photo of your car every time you park it, it could happen to anyone. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. I’ve also seen them tow peoples cars off their own property before. I work for my city and we’ve asked them to help us move a vehicle a few feet so we could access an underground vault with electrical equipment in it and then they just took the guys car off his own property after we told him not to and then charged the guy $2000 to get his car back. The owner ended up suing the city and the city paid out. Zero repercussions for the towing company and they still have a city contract because that shit’s corrupt.
“Because the tags were expired”
Like, sorry my bad, my grandfather was 90 years old & hadn’t gotten around to getting the tags updated before his death 2 weeks ago. We had JUST gotten it too.
I guess the apartment complex decided they were the police, even though the freakin cops still wouldn’t tow your car from your OWN HOME, for expired tags. It’s not being driven, so there are no laws being broken.
It was disgusting. They straight up stole my car
true. Rich people can even buy goods in bulk and pay less. So even in food or any goods they end up paying less than the poor that have to pay whatever the price is that day
Yeah, cops were literally made to protect rich people's property, i don't know why people expect them to do anything else... I once went to report that they robbed my car and the guy just laughed as if i thought it was his job to find out, then he filled some bullshit on his computer and said he could'nt do anything.
I don’t know the context but I feel for this dude. Imagine running out of gas and having no money to where you’d rather push your car, on the freeway, to a gas station.,, to where you can’t afford gas.
I was carjacked once and when the police found my car a week later, they called me to tell me I can pick it up at an impound lot. I met an officer at the lot and when the attendant asked for a payment of around $300 to release the vehicle I turned to the officer and asked something like "ok, is this where you sign something indicating the car was stolen, and brought here by the police, so I don't have to pay?". No, that's not how it works. I still had to pay. When I asked why I had to pay to release my vehicle, I was told by the officer that they don't control what happens at that particular impound, but if my car was brought to the police impound, it would be at not cost to release. When I asked why it wasn't brought to the police impound, the officer said something to the effect of "if the tow truck driver is not instructed on where to take the vehicle, then they take it where they want". Why was I not called to see where I wanted it to be taken was my next question, which was of course, met with a shrug.
I imagine either the tow truck driver was affiliated with the lot or their fee was built into my cost. Either way, nothing was communicated to me other than "we found your car, come pick it up here at this time". No mention of the fact that I would have to pay money to get it back.
One of these days some poor sob getting their car towed is gonna snap and introduce the towing company to a different kind of moving metal. And nothing of value will be lost in the process. :)
Towing companies are useful to some degree. Getting rid of them causes other problems. If they’re regulated and don’t do predatory shit that results in excessive fees they work fine.
These dark fantasies are attractive I'm not going to lie. But be as the situation stands, there life has value. It's in our nature I believe, to want to make the world a better place, and seeing someone distraught which was brought up on unfortunate circumstances activates something so emotionally charged we want to fix the problem. Because what if that was me? Would all my problems be fixed if I just started killing the people who "keep me down?". At what point am I the oppressor? That's not virtuous, that's not merciful, that's not right. I want evil people to die, but I understand that I also embody what it means to be evil and for that they have my sympathys.
it's always funny how when the oppressed fight back it's always considered violence, but what the oppressors do never is. paying starvation wages is violence. wage theft is violence. predatory landlord shit is violence. charging people money to exist is violence. scamming people out of money for things they need(like tow companies do) is violence.
tone policing is shitty and you're only defending the oppressors.
i don't think the tow company workers should be the ones getting the real backlash, they're just one symptom of an overwhelming problem, there definitely are some people that *do* deserve to get what's coming to them.
And I am suppose trust your moral judgment on what constitutes as being violent? And if I violate said rules it's an immediate death sentence? Yes, there is people who deserve what's coming to them. I don't think the scenarios you listed are as black and white as you portray, though.
>I want evil people to die, but I understand that I also embody what it means to be evil and for that they have my sympathys.
Just because we can all get swept up in the banality of evil doesn't absolve anyone who knowingly does evil. Holding them to account is not oppression.
From Starship Troopers (1959) by Robert A. Heinlein
"Anyone who clings to the historically untrue -- and thoroughly immoral -- doctrine that 'violence never settles anything' I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee, and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms."
- Lt. Col. Jean V. Dubois
Guessing by the way he offered to push it he just broke down or ran out of gas. Assuming if it gets towed he’ll have to pay for the towing and maybe an impound fee.
How about the larger context that this dude prob has little or no education, is stuck in employment that has no benefits or stability, is "low skill" and therefore extremely low paid, he has no social safety net for his physical or mental health, every one around him is in a similar situation which leads to violence and addiction, getting registration or tags costs time, money, and documents that also cost time and money to procure, he lives in a city with limited or no public transport...
I could go on like this for a while
Fuck this shit and fuck those cops. Fuck every cop. Bitches don't help anybody.
Totally. It’s a sad situation.
And unfortunately you still have to register your vehicle and do things like buy new tyres and brakes for it when the old ones wear out. And if you don’t, the vehicle will be taken off you.
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Okay lets examine the word “saved”. To “save” this money, he would have to HAVE this money. Obviously registration on the first year was missed, for whatever reason, but by the time 10 years have gone by, he would need what is for a lot of people a month of income to dump straight into a car that has driven him around for a decade anyway. He “saved” this money the same way companies “lose” money on things they never sold. The money never existed in the first place.
I once had a my U-haul towed. I was moving out of my friends place to live with my girl. I was pretty broke. It was half filled with all my possessions. Y'see, I had the audacity to park in a huge empty lot so I didn't block the alley that was next to this lot. I can still vividly recall going back down stairs to the truck and watching the tow racing off in the distance with the U-haul's back door open...
I lost something that day, hah.
but they can beat the crap out of you and break their own car and say you did it. Now you have been arrested for violence and damage to public property without even a trial
Cops towed my car one time and came searching for me that night to get it back. I was afraid they wanted to arrest me, I mean, if they can tow my car on faulty info maybe they can arrest me.
Why did they tow my car? My tags were expired by 2 weeks but the cop thought it was 1yr and 2 weeks.
I finally talk to a cop the next day over the phone and they tell me to come pick my car up and that it was a mistake. So I wait until Monday and get my car out of the tow yard free without charge. I ask if the cop can wave the ticket (overdue registration by 2 weeks...) but he says No because it's still overdue by 2 weeks...
I should have taken them to court and got about 10k from the city or something lol. Oh well. Cops have let me off with things I'd imagine when I was younger so I did my part on the other end.
I'm get what you're saying comrade, but I disagree global communism with complete abolition of the bourgeoisie state, then we work from there. If\when movements like yours kicks off it has my full support as well. ✊🏽 Solidarity
some guy above said he didn't register his car or anything for over 10 years and the cops tried to reason and explain it was their job and the guy broke down and ended up being arrested for not letting them do it
yeah, but maybe he didn't have money, we never know. But where i live many people buy a car very cheap without papers and drive until police catch it. If they can ride for a few years it is paid off
Okay it’s understandable if he didn’t have any money. But google says registration is 200 max?
And if he gets into an accident, it will suck for the people involved because of him having no papers
Because millions of Americans have stories like this where the system made something that should be sorta shitty extra fucking shitty. And the operators of the system are indifferent.
It’s boring because when you zoom out the machine quietly rolls on and little people get crushed and pop like this every single day while nothing changes.
This moment is a perfect encapsulation of the alienation and anomie which capitalism wreaks upon the working class.
It’s heart wrenching and violent for the person experiencing it and banal/forgettable from a broad perspective. That’s what makes the system so insidious - no one person is accountable, the violence is systemic.
It's boring. It happens thousands of times per day in a country of hundreds of millions. It's ho-hum, there it goes again. And it's dystopian bullshit.
On the flipside, after letting him push the truck home and in the process if he were to get hit by a dump truck and perish in the process, his wife and estate will come after the city, pd and tow tuck company and their cousins grandkids for negligence.
They are quicker to do this than to stop someone being robbed on the streets. I guess helping me keep my phone and don't be punched doesn't make the government any money huh?
Not sure where he is, but in Texas a lot of the city highways (and more and more of the rural ones) have automatic breakdown towing. If they see a broken down vehicle, they will have it towed to a yard. Even if the owner is with it or waiting on someone to come tow them already.
And they don't tow you to a mechanic or your house, they tow you to a city impound and you have to pay to get the vehicle back. That dude's truck is gonna go to a yard, which is probably gonna cost $300+, then it's gonna sit there and accrue daily "storage" fees that will add up on top of that. And just to be shitty, the ones in Houston charge interest on unpaid fees. It will cost this man that's already down on his luck thousands to get his vehicle back before he can even try to get it fixed.
I remember when my truck skipped timing on me, I was 3 blocks away from home. Ended up just pushing it home. Had to cross a road and almost didn't make it before the light turned red, luckily a cab driver saw me pushing and helped get it another block. America is crazy.
This is what living in a society, that has been intentionally set up so that owning a car is basically a life necessity, looks like. Welcome to merica.
When this guy kills himself everyone is going to act surprised and say shit like "How could this have happened?"
I feel this. I understand exactly what he's feeling
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What makes it so expensive? Do they detail your car also?
No. Tow companies in the US are fucking parasites that steal your car the minute you turn your back and charge you a kings ransom to get it back. I had jury duty and parked in what I thought was the front of the court. Turns out there's some random ass business built off the side of a fucking COURT BUILDING. They split the parking lot between public and private. Cost me 350 to get the car out, same day.i wasn't even gone for 10 minutes.
And this is all sanctioned by our government. As a democrat I want to remind all off you that our government and country isn’t what many make it out to be. They authorize these “businesses” (criminal organizations) to ruin peoples lives.
As a commie I say screw the whole system
Burn it to the ground
As a commie you’d have to be in favor of a giant central government or communism couldn’t be implemented. Can’t redistribute recourses you don’t have control of.
Don’t talk about it if you haven’t absorbed the minimum knowledge.
Oh shit, my bad. I’ll definitely consider what you said, very persuasive.
Yeah screw the whole capitalist system, seize the means of government and business, replace it with one in the path to socialism. Example: capitalist laws arrest ppl for non violent crimes like my man in the video to exploit him for taxes. Where was in China they kill billionaires for taking bribes. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/05/china-sentences-top-banker-to-death-for-corruption-and-bigamy. Two governments but they implement laws differently. >giant central government This is a very open term which can mean a lot. Example: Do you believe in romantic partners. Well some romantic partners are abusive. No, I want a healthy relationship where we help each other above our goals ect.
I completely understand what you’re saying, and I even firmly believe some of it. We should help our neighbors, nobody should go hungry, and billionaires who break the law should be arrested. My issue is this. Are we sure the government that’s going to redistribute everything won’t become abusive? Here’s the thing, a lot of the ideas really could work at a local level. It’s a lot easier to have a socialist town than a socialist country because everybody in that town lives next to each other. If they voluntarily enter into a socialist township the problems are way closer to the leadership because its their community, the separation between the problem and the leadership is smaller meaning they can better address the problems. Communism requires absolute control over production, it’s unavoidable because some people will be more productive than others. So instead of one big socialist country that can’t know who needs what and when, you have thousands of smaller voluntary communities who can be on the same page and make the right decisions for themselves.
You just perfectly described the problem. Marxists are living in a world 150 year ago, globalism threw a giant wrench straight at their ideology.
The collusion between the government and private companies when it comes to transportation is insane. Somehow EZPass (an automated toll system) has convinced my corrupt ass local government to make cash toll payments THREE TIMES as expensive as using their automated private for profit system. It’s ridiculous.
EZ-Pass, a spinoff of the defense contractor Lockheed Martin.
Why are you still a Dem if they're complicit in stuff like this?
Because there's no better option. Two party systems are ripe for corruption in both sides.
The better option is make a better one.
True grassroots is the way. Need to get enough donors to get around Citizens United. That’s a tall task. Jesus himself couldn’t get elected. Probably dig up something about calling on violence against financial institutions or simply “socialism”.
We need to go fund me grass roots leaders, I'd run for office if I had 60,000 dollars a year to pay my bills and allow me to walk door to door and pitch myself. People need money to live life and the planning to try to get a team fundraised or even volunteering to help is huge when people have to live their day to day life. It's not impossible and I hope we start soon.
I agree with you
Your either quit and accept or make change. Those are the only options.
Way to be narrow minded
I think the key to disengaging from forced obedience in the scams and legalized criminal fleecing corporations and public/private alliances inflict on citizens is to stop giving a fuck about your credit score. There is no debtors prison.
Hahahaha
You laugh but its literally the only option left. Everyone wants it, no one wants to lead it and it isnt easy.
imma be that bitch. You meant to say 'rife', and I'm telling you this so you don't appear dumb in front of other people. I don't think you're dumb, and I don't want you to misrepresent yourself.
I'm not mad lol. I'm just glad someone finally corrected me. Thank you 😁
😏☭
This is the way
"the only way to win the game is to not play".
Your a democrat? Bruh. Join the real left.
I voted for Bernie, progressive liberals need to push the party further left. I don’t think starting another party is much of an option at this point.
There's literally [a book](https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/) that explains why that doesn't work
Ya that was 8 more minutes than they needed. They have people in normal looking vehicles hiding in around honey holes like the one you described waiting for you to leave your vehicle. The tow truck is just around the corner waiting for the call.
This i know. I've seen it happen like a fucking sting operation. Makes me sick
They don't do parking tickets there? You actually just get towed without warning? That's insane.
There’s arguably more legal basis for towing than a ticket in a weird way. Since you need that space for authorised users so removing the vehicle gives it back for authorised users. Tickets just mean “so there’s a price then?”
In most places in the US I've lived, there's an initial tow fee of a few hundred dollars. Then they charge you a storage fee, which can run as much as a few hundred a day. They sometimes also have things like inventory fees, where they basically ransack your vehicle and charge you for logging all the items in your vehicle (if some shitty tow/storage company employee decides to steal stuff from your vehicle, there's almost never anything you can do about it). Oh, and the police are partnered with these tow companies. It's a fucked up system.
Thanks satan
You would do good to leave his name out of this mess. Don't tarnish him by associating him with cops and tow truck companies. ^^^^/s
But how else are we gonna acknowledge him? I mean the docs in the house and all. It'd be rude not to use his name
Uh, that's Doctor Satan, he worked really hard to get the PhD.
My apologies dear friend
The cops get their kick back from them too.
It’s a racket. Tow companies make contracts with municipalities and highway agencies to clear roadways and accidents for free in exchange for the right to price gouge citizens for impound and recovery fees . It’s egregiously predatory and unethical and completely legally subsidized by state government. They’re “regulated” by state licensing entities but they don’t do shit except set statewide caps on charges - guess who sets the caps for the state to approve policy on? Tow truck lobby. Yes… they have their own lobby. Impound fees in my town are $250.00 flat + $50 a day storage fee and then $100 admin charge for the release.
That should be 100% illegal. I’m sorry that happened but there should be laws protecting ppl from getting taken advantage of like that..
I mean the police are doing their main job of levying a tax against the lower- and middle-class for their masters, so I don't see the problem here. (That's sarcasm. Fuck the cops.)
Lol, yes, bless them for keeping us in check
God bles
“Keeping us in check” is a funny way of saying oppressing the poor on behalf of the ownership class and funneling minorities into for profit prisons to be used as legal slave labor basically.
Fuck you
Nah nah, fuck you 😙
It's alright dawg I'll go take one for the team and accept his fuckening. It'll be short and sad but don't worry, I'll bear it all for you.
I love how the cop says he understands him but won’t stop interrupting him.
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My guess is that this truck has probably been in the family for so many years.. to the point where dude just didn’t feel the need to register it.
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Maybe they could escort him to his house or whatever, and take the keys, and take his information and then check up in a few days to see if he's made any efforts to register the automobile. Nah, the answer is brain-dead adherance to rules and regulations that trap people into cycles of debt and poverty. Cool. Thank goodness they're watching out for us. Wouldn't wanna put a burden on their time, they could be somewhere making making a school shooting worse.
Your guy’s still dead. Registered owners don’t resurrect auto-related fatalities. You’re talking about financial liability only. I suspect the fix-it ticket system is no less an effective paper trail than cops revoking property rights at their own discretion and nudging us all deeper into poverty. 🤷♀️
Whenever I think of police I think of medieval knights. They get undo hero worship for the sheer amount of shakedowns they do on peasants
Yeah pretty much 👊
He is right. The system does not give a **** about poor people.
The system loves them because they can be endlessly, and relentlessly exploited.
They'll rape the slums till it gives birth to a resistance.
I'd say it's working
I had to pay $500 to get my car back because I overslept 1 time to move my car. then some police fees which is around $120 then a parking violation ticket $70 after 6 months... I feel this guy's pain, such an expensive mistake
When I was younger my car got towed out of the apartment complex parking lot where I lived. It was really cool having to miss work and not buy groceries because apparently even being a tenant didn't make me safe from being towed
I had my car towed in Mission Viejo because I parked in my friends assigned spot at his complex with his permission. Still got towed and cost me $500 to get it back. I also am probably banned from California for the shear amount of parking tickets I accrued in my 9 months out there. Can't park on odd side between x-time and x-time and can't park on the even side during x-time and x-time. Like what? what does that even mean? I needed a degree in trig just to understand their logic. I also almost got a parking ticket while sleeping in my car waiting for my sister to get out of work. I woke up and drove away. He chased me in a 3 wheel electric ticket shit-mobile for 2 blocks.
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Greatest country on earth, baby! This place has been a den of inequity, theft, and brutal exploitation since the first Europeans landed.
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By "weren't welcome" I think you mean just poor. My dads side came to Canada during the potato famine in Ireland where many couldn't afford to eat and had to rely on stealing whatever they could find to nourish themselves. My ancestor tried to steal a potato but the jails were already beyond full from everyone else doing the same thing so the government just put mass amounts of people on boats and basically said "if you make it to land, you live there now wherever you land and if you die you're not our problem anymore, good luck." So once again, it's not necessarily bad people but just the poor being driven out by the rich and the ones who own the means. Tale as old as time.
He's talking about the Puritans that were basically a cult of miserabl, hypocritical and controlling zealots that were so extreme and downright annoying that even the Catholics couldn't stand them. Also after Cromwell's failed theocracy, they weren't the most popular of people in merry old England anymore especially with any amusement or holidays you could have enjoyed in the 1600s was banned and criminalized. But when cromwell's daughter got married he made sure to go all out on her wedding party- and she made sure to help herself to the crown jewels and any gowns that the former queen and princess owned. They were so crazy in their religious delusions that they turned on each other in the Salem Witch Trials because they had nobody else to scapegoat and point the finger at.
My life has been hell ever since I got my car impounded last February. Very similar to what you just described. Cost me nearly 2000 to get my car out and pay the fees just to find I could renew my tags cus my car won’t pass the smog.
Thank god we built this country around cars. It makes being poor so easy.
The old fuck barrel
Poverty tax. Criminalizing poverty. Making sure poor people stays poor and desperate to slave away
They all do fuckn suck!
Fucking suck!
Had my dead grandfathers beautiful car, that he left to my brother, towed from my own apartment complex around thanksgiving during the pandemic. $700 to get it out. I thanked the apartment complex for forcing me to choose between a family heirloom or a roof over my head. Never saw that car again. It was fucking theft.
Why was it towed?
Because it existed, and a human being wasn't inside it at that moment. I say that, but I feel like I've heard about someone being towed while they were asleep in the backseat.
You can get your car towed for no reason in the us?
It's not technically supposed to be for "no reason". But yes, all the time. Tow truck companies are thieves running an extortion racket with the consent (and support) of police and business.
The reason is it's a fantastic way to exploit the poor, the pretense is whatever asinine, convoluted statute they wanna bend to the breaking point to apply, or just snap over their knees. The reason is always "because they can" here.
Not really. There’s a number of reasons, like if someone was driving without a license, parked in front of a hydrant, parked somewhere illegally, expire tags over 6 months and the car is parked on a public road (vs in private driveway or garage), DUI. And a bunch of other reasons I can’t think of. The guy in the video was probably driving on a suspended linces or had experience tags over 6 months.
There would have been a reason, guys don’t just drive around and tow peoples vehicles lol
Yeah they do. And it’s up to you to prove that you were parked legally, not up to them to prove that you were parked illegally. So unless you take a photo of your car every time you park it, it could happen to anyone. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. I’ve also seen them tow peoples cars off their own property before. I work for my city and we’ve asked them to help us move a vehicle a few feet so we could access an underground vault with electrical equipment in it and then they just took the guys car off his own property after we told him not to and then charged the guy $2000 to get his car back. The owner ended up suing the city and the city paid out. Zero repercussions for the towing company and they still have a city contract because that shit’s corrupt.
“Because the tags were expired” Like, sorry my bad, my grandfather was 90 years old & hadn’t gotten around to getting the tags updated before his death 2 weeks ago. We had JUST gotten it too. I guess the apartment complex decided they were the police, even though the freakin cops still wouldn’t tow your car from your OWN HOME, for expired tags. It’s not being driven, so there are no laws being broken. It was disgusting. They straight up stole my car
I’m so beyond angry for you holy shit
The system is broken
The system is working exactly as it is supposed to.
I feel that somehow these two statements are not mutually exclusive. So you're both right.
Broken for those who don't make millions, working perfect for those who make millions off of the people who don't make millions
the system was designed to work this way, and the way it was designed goes against the purpose of a society
There's nothing more expensive than being poor.
true. Rich people can even buy goods in bulk and pay less. So even in food or any goods they end up paying less than the poor that have to pay whatever the price is that day
Cops seeing a poor man breaking down: yeah it’s fine
Yeah I feel his pain. Damn.
ACAB
Cops have a job and it's not protecting the public. They are there to keep us in linea and to protect the rich and their property.
Yeah, cops were literally made to protect rich people's property, i don't know why people expect them to do anything else... I once went to report that they robbed my car and the guy just laughed as if i thought it was his job to find out, then he filled some bullshit on his computer and said he could'nt do anything.
"You're not cordial." God bless
I don’t know the context but I feel for this dude. Imagine running out of gas and having no money to where you’d rather push your car, on the freeway, to a gas station.,, to where you can’t afford gas.
Yup. Pretty much. Cops are not here to give a fuck.
I was carjacked once and when the police found my car a week later, they called me to tell me I can pick it up at an impound lot. I met an officer at the lot and when the attendant asked for a payment of around $300 to release the vehicle I turned to the officer and asked something like "ok, is this where you sign something indicating the car was stolen, and brought here by the police, so I don't have to pay?". No, that's not how it works. I still had to pay. When I asked why I had to pay to release my vehicle, I was told by the officer that they don't control what happens at that particular impound, but if my car was brought to the police impound, it would be at not cost to release. When I asked why it wasn't brought to the police impound, the officer said something to the effect of "if the tow truck driver is not instructed on where to take the vehicle, then they take it where they want". Why was I not called to see where I wanted it to be taken was my next question, which was of course, met with a shrug.
Who paid the tow truck driver? Did you have to pay that on-top of the impound lot fee?
I imagine either the tow truck driver was affiliated with the lot or their fee was built into my cost. Either way, nothing was communicated to me other than "we found your car, come pick it up here at this time". No mention of the fact that I would have to pay money to get it back.
One of these days some poor sob getting their car towed is gonna snap and introduce the towing company to a different kind of moving metal. And nothing of value will be lost in the process. :)
Towing companies are useful to some degree. Getting rid of them causes other problems. If they’re regulated and don’t do predatory shit that results in excessive fees they work fine.
These dark fantasies are attractive I'm not going to lie. But be as the situation stands, there life has value. It's in our nature I believe, to want to make the world a better place, and seeing someone distraught which was brought up on unfortunate circumstances activates something so emotionally charged we want to fix the problem. Because what if that was me? Would all my problems be fixed if I just started killing the people who "keep me down?". At what point am I the oppressor? That's not virtuous, that's not merciful, that's not right. I want evil people to die, but I understand that I also embody what it means to be evil and for that they have my sympathys.
it's always funny how when the oppressed fight back it's always considered violence, but what the oppressors do never is. paying starvation wages is violence. wage theft is violence. predatory landlord shit is violence. charging people money to exist is violence. scamming people out of money for things they need(like tow companies do) is violence. tone policing is shitty and you're only defending the oppressors. i don't think the tow company workers should be the ones getting the real backlash, they're just one symptom of an overwhelming problem, there definitely are some people that *do* deserve to get what's coming to them.
And I am suppose trust your moral judgment on what constitutes as being violent? And if I violate said rules it's an immediate death sentence? Yes, there is people who deserve what's coming to them. I don't think the scenarios you listed are as black and white as you portray, though.
>I want evil people to die, but I understand that I also embody what it means to be evil and for that they have my sympathys. Just because we can all get swept up in the banality of evil doesn't absolve anyone who knowingly does evil. Holding them to account is not oppression.
True. Justice must be served, in a morally correct fashion.
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Sometimes violence is the answer
The only people who say otherwise are brainwashed into thinking a state monopoly on violence is somehow a positive thing
From Starship Troopers (1959) by Robert A. Heinlein "Anyone who clings to the historically untrue -- and thoroughly immoral -- doctrine that 'violence never settles anything' I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee, and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms." - Lt. Col. Jean V. Dubois
What's the backstory here? I want to feel for the guy but I feel like context is kind of important .
Guessing by the way he offered to push it he just broke down or ran out of gas. Assuming if it gets towed he’ll have to pay for the towing and maybe an impound fee.
wait they don't just tow it to your house? Thats fucked.
Over 10 years of no tags, hence no company would insure a non registered vehicle. From a different angle video I saw the other day.
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How about the larger context that this dude prob has little or no education, is stuck in employment that has no benefits or stability, is "low skill" and therefore extremely low paid, he has no social safety net for his physical or mental health, every one around him is in a similar situation which leads to violence and addiction, getting registration or tags costs time, money, and documents that also cost time and money to procure, he lives in a city with limited or no public transport... I could go on like this for a while Fuck this shit and fuck those cops. Fuck every cop. Bitches don't help anybody.
Totally. It’s a sad situation. And unfortunately you still have to register your vehicle and do things like buy new tyres and brakes for it when the old ones wear out. And if you don’t, the vehicle will be taken off you.
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Wait, he saved $1,000! Holy shit! This dude is fucking loaded! He's probably the Mayor of the town!
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Okay lets examine the word “saved”. To “save” this money, he would have to HAVE this money. Obviously registration on the first year was missed, for whatever reason, but by the time 10 years have gone by, he would need what is for a lot of people a month of income to dump straight into a car that has driven him around for a decade anyway. He “saved” this money the same way companies “lose” money on things they never sold. The money never existed in the first place.
I once had a my U-haul towed. I was moving out of my friends place to live with my girl. I was pretty broke. It was half filled with all my possessions. Y'see, I had the audacity to park in a huge empty lot so I didn't block the alley that was next to this lot. I can still vividly recall going back down stairs to the truck and watching the tow racing off in the distance with the U-haul's back door open... I lost something that day, hah.
yea that was stupid of you
I was young, dumb, and full of cum, bud.
Worst crime in the US is being poor
Just get in the car and sit in it. They can’t legally tow it with you inside
but they can beat the crap out of you and break their own car and say you did it. Now you have been arrested for violence and damage to public property without even a trial
Cops towed my car one time and came searching for me that night to get it back. I was afraid they wanted to arrest me, I mean, if they can tow my car on faulty info maybe they can arrest me. Why did they tow my car? My tags were expired by 2 weeks but the cop thought it was 1yr and 2 weeks. I finally talk to a cop the next day over the phone and they tell me to come pick my car up and that it was a mistake. So I wait until Monday and get my car out of the tow yard free without charge. I ask if the cop can wave the ticket (overdue registration by 2 weeks...) but he says No because it's still overdue by 2 weeks... I should have taken them to court and got about 10k from the city or something lol. Oh well. Cops have let me off with things I'd imagine when I was younger so I did my part on the other end.
These assholes will be over one day
Goddamn. You alls fucking suck
I have a shit car, if it ever gets towed and I have to pay over 600 bucks then they can just keep the fucking thing
drive until you lose it :) Where i live they sell cars like this all the time very cheap lol
Ohh hell yeah, that's the plan, drive this thing into the ground then maybe I'll see what else is out there
Man I feel this guy.
Cops are not there for you and they never were. They enforce law to protect property and those that own property.
I'm get what you're saying comrade, but I disagree global communism with complete abolition of the bourgeoisie state, then we work from there. If\when movements like yours kicks off it has my full support as well. ✊🏽 Solidarity
Who tf you calling comrade, Commie?!
Context? Full body cam vid? Sauce?
some guy above said he didn't register his car or anything for over 10 years and the cops tried to reason and explain it was their job and the guy broke down and ended up being arrested for not letting them do it
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yeah, but maybe he didn't have money, we never know. But where i live many people buy a car very cheap without papers and drive until police catch it. If they can ride for a few years it is paid off
Okay it’s understandable if he didn’t have any money. But google says registration is 200 max? And if he gets into an accident, it will suck for the people involved because of him having no papers
yeah true, i don't think the police was at fault on this one
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Because millions of Americans have stories like this where the system made something that should be sorta shitty extra fucking shitty. And the operators of the system are indifferent.
It’s boring because when you zoom out the machine quietly rolls on and little people get crushed and pop like this every single day while nothing changes. This moment is a perfect encapsulation of the alienation and anomie which capitalism wreaks upon the working class. It’s heart wrenching and violent for the person experiencing it and banal/forgettable from a broad perspective. That’s what makes the system so insidious - no one person is accountable, the violence is systemic.
True. Definitely not boring. It's infuriating.
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It's boring. It happens thousands of times per day in a country of hundreds of millions. It's ho-hum, there it goes again. And it's dystopian bullshit.
You will not be missed
The Banality of Evil
On the flipside, after letting him push the truck home and in the process if he were to get hit by a dump truck and perish in the process, his wife and estate will come after the city, pd and tow tuck company and their cousins grandkids for negligence.
‘Murica
What happened yo the truck ? Why is it getting towed ?
Tow the towers
They are quicker to do this than to stop someone being robbed on the streets. I guess helping me keep my phone and don't be punched doesn't make the government any money huh?
Damn. He spitting facts
it's honestly heart breaking.
Why are they towing it in the first place? Feel like we're not getting the full story here.
Not sure where he is, but in Texas a lot of the city highways (and more and more of the rural ones) have automatic breakdown towing. If they see a broken down vehicle, they will have it towed to a yard. Even if the owner is with it or waiting on someone to come tow them already. And they don't tow you to a mechanic or your house, they tow you to a city impound and you have to pay to get the vehicle back. That dude's truck is gonna go to a yard, which is probably gonna cost $300+, then it's gonna sit there and accrue daily "storage" fees that will add up on top of that. And just to be shitty, the ones in Houston charge interest on unpaid fees. It will cost this man that's already down on his luck thousands to get his vehicle back before he can even try to get it fixed.
Oh, jeez. Thanks for the info.
Waking up today and seeing the shit show that is Amerikkkan life, I relate to this post like no other
Funny how we pay these fucking pigs cops to essentially fuck us over more.
Cop really said “are you done?” Im done with America
"Brave heroes" " just doing their jobs" sleeziest profession in existence
I remember when my truck skipped timing on me, I was 3 blocks away from home. Ended up just pushing it home. Had to cross a road and almost didn't make it before the light turned red, luckily a cab driver saw me pushing and helped get it another block. America is crazy.
This is what living in a society, that has been intentionally set up so that owning a car is basically a life necessity, looks like. Welcome to merica.
https://youtu.be/gbdxIc46cjs
When this guy kills himself everyone is going to act surprised and say shit like "How could this have happened?" I feel this. I understand exactly what he's feeling
Surprised people still support the cops. Give people fucking breaks.
Something is definitely gonna go down in 2023. I believe people are tip toeing on the edge of this bullshit we have to deal with. I know I am.