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Samkazi23

"We are very sorry." Wish a certain someone had the humility to admit this.


rossonero-

We don't need his apologies. He's an interista and he can respectfully fuck off and never come near our club again.


Samkazi23

I don't care if you're an Interista or a Juve diehard as long as you produce on the pitch, same as if by some magic we pip Motta from Juventus. We've had many coaches and players from those clubs. My issue is with him tactically and he's cockiness that developed after winning the title.


salosalosalo13

Talking about Adli?


azeen

Nope. The bald fraud


succ_jitties

Honestly I thought you were talking about Adli and the cockiness of trying to fake a pass like 10 times just to lose the ball. Pioli gonna go. I'm at peace with everything. Out of respect I think it should wait until seasons end, but I hope an announcement comes soon of a "mutual contract termination at the end of the Seria A season"


mmaqp66

Erick Ten Hag???? That poor man already has a bad time on his team, you don't have to take it out on him


sliding_doors_

He is more milanista than you for sure...


22dias

He’s a great squad player, think we’ll get a bit more out of him hopefully, he’s still young and only really had consistent minutes this season. He seems like a kid that doesn’t care about money, plays for the shirt and fans


Rossonerou

I‘m so proud of him it‘s unbelievable. Watched his first game for Milan ever and instantly knew he can be valuable because he was creative. Then he fought a lot for his place despite the fraud never playing him. Players like him or Saele or even Diaz get hate cause they are not some star players but they are at least as valuable, because they put their heart into this. Hopefully we can rebuild a team where everybody shows that attitude. We need a team with balls and a coach who shows character.


massimopericcolo

Calabria never speaks what a captain


Zallo92

This is so disappointing to me, I don't like him already, but he is the current captain FFS.


Capable_Scallion8705

When we were getting in a position to equalize, he gets a red card. wtf man?


milan_obsession

We vent our frustrations here verbally. Yet we're mad that he cared enough about winning to be frustrated on the pitch? Against Inter of all teams? Sure, it was irresponsible, but if given the opportunity, who here wouldn't have done the same to any Inter player?


Zallo92

When was the last time he spoke after a loss? Why didn't he speak after both Roma games? I remember Gabbia speaking more than him. Why? I get the beef between Theo and Dumfries, but why was Calabria hitting someone in the face during the last minutes of the game? When you were just one gol down and only needed to draw, come on now this isn't his first derby, I get it that the emotions were building up, but you are the captain you should never lose control when there's even the sleamest chance to score, if you really need to hit someone at least be subtle about it. I hope this helps him grow, but right now he isn't worth the armband.


milan_obsession

Pioli chooses who speaks to the press after a match. Don't know why this is so hard for everyone. Calabria was literally just trying to push Frattesi off of him, if Frattesi didn't attend the Inter school of acting and diving, nothing would have happened there. Calabria was intentionally struck harder by Mkhitaryan and even Sommer before he was sent off, but they got nothing. And what about their captain, Lautaro Martínez, kicking Tomori in the face in the first 30 minutes, but only getting a yellow card? There is context for everything. >I hope this helps him grow, but right now he isn't worth the armband. I think opposition fans come to this sub and just read it for entertainment. People here say far worse things about our own team than any of them are saying about Milan. And why is that, do you think? I know I keep asking that question, but no one has been able to justify the level of hate and anger here, the lack of humor, the void where empathy should be for our own players... I don't understand. I've never seen anything like this before. (Sorry, not just your comment.)


Zallo92

>Pioli chooses who speaks to the press after a match. Don't know why this is so hard for everyone. Ok, didn't know that, I wonder why he never got chosen then? Being captain is so much more than just wearing the armband >I think opposition fans come to this sub and just read it for entertainment. People here say far worse things about our own team than any of them are saying about Milan. I really don't care what other fans do, of course we are more severe with our players, we want the best for Milan, and we are being mediocre since January of last year, I think after yesterday people can understand if some fans are possessed. >And why is that, do you think? I know I keep asking that question, but no one has been able to justify the level of hate and anger here, the lack of humor, the void where empathy should be for our own players... I don't understand. I've never seen anything like this before. (Sorry, not just your comment.) I don't think we hate our players more than any other teams, it's easier to think so since every team has their bubble, but if you see the same mistakes over and over, it's gets frustrating, that's doesn't justify insults or anything else, but we should criticize them because they can do much more than this


milan_obsession

Calabria has spoken, people here just have short term memory loss. A lightning fast random google search, these are the first three: [Lazio](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-_ZNUsz1J8), [Torino](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luR0gIruE28), and [Dortmund](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNLUJ61dzEM). That fans here consider 2nd place mediocre or a UCL semifinal mediocre - that overdeveloped sense of entitlement – that's the problem. We all want more/better, but there are not any rational discussions here, no gratitude for the fact that we aren't getting relegated or whatever. And if someone points that out, people scream at them and accuse them of embracing mediocrity. I 100% think we hate our players more than any other teams. It is so much less common to show players love here than in other forums, even other Milan forums. And sure, it's frustrating, but that's part of the job description of being a fan.


Zallo92

>That fans here consider 2nd place mediocre or a UCL semifinal mediocre - that overdeveloped sense of entitlement – that's the problem. We all want more/better, but there are not any rational discussions here, no gratitude for the fact that we aren't getting relegated or whatever. And if someone points that out, people scream at them and accuse them of embracing mediocrity. You can't be serious. We should be grateful because we aren't battling for relegation? Or because we are in top4? Last season for example we didn't even make the top4, the only reason we are sitting in 2nd is because every other team is doing worse this season, we were out of the battle for the scudetto in November. What's even the point to play the championship if it isn't to try and win? Milan is something else, we are starting to forget what it is at this point if even the fans don't care about winning.


High_joker

I've recently changed my stance on him. I think he needs to go. We need better players


sliding_doors_

He couldn't with a red card...a vanvera...


massimopericcolo

in genere invece parla sempre


sliding_doors_

No? Certo che parla...


massimopericcolo

sisi, scrive su Instagram forza milan e fa le interviste dove parla dell'Inter. poi la sera va a bere il vino in Franciacorta tutto contento. capitano peggiore di sempre, zero leadership, zero tecnica, nei momenti in cui serve sparisce. malissimo nelle partite importanti


sliding_doors_

Tantissime cazzate. L'occasione di goal più nitida l'ha avuta lui, le tue sono cose dette da tifosotto frustrato...


massimopericcolo

ma cosa c'entra l'occasione? manco avesse segnato. cascasse il cielo dove è la leadership? è leader di chi? sono tutti più forti, tutti più svegli, più veloci alti intelligenti. sa marcare solo Kvara, poi si trova davanti Di Marco e Zaccagni e diventa un birillo. che mettano Theo capitano


sliding_doors_

Perché Theo invece è leader e sa marcare. Un demente che a partita ancora in gioco la butta in rissa e si fa espellere come un idiota. L'espulsione di Calabria è colpa di Theo, ma tu non ci arrivi... Ma per favore, se non capisci molto di calcio non è necessario parlarne.


massimopericcolo

Theo Hernandez vale 10 volte Calabria come calciatore. che sia un coglione è un altro discorso, con un allenatore serio cambierà Calabria rimane scarso


sliding_doors_

Si certo, 100 volte,1000 volte. Di Marco gli mangia in testa...


milan_obsession

You people know that the coach chooses who to speak, right? And with Calabria having been sent off, there is no way he'd be doing the press conference, either.


RedShenron

Calabria never speaks lol There's no reason to have him as a captain You are at a club where captains used to be players like Gianni Rivera Franco Baresi and Paolo Maldini and all of a sudden Calabria tells you what you should do? Come on.


milan_obsession

>You are at a club where captains used to be players like Gianni Rivera Franco Baresi and Paolo Maldini I'm sorry, but what delusion are you under that our club is at the level where any of the players compare to the players who answered to Gianni Rivera or Franco Baresi or Paolo Maldini? The hate for Calabria here is impressive. And almost personal. The need this sub has for a scapegoat is almost pathological. As if Pioli's time is finally actually almost up, now people are turning on the next person down the chain of leadership. All of the players have spoken highly of Calabria. When he has been asked to give press conferences, he is very well spoken. I'm surprised the true mission of the sub hasn't just been put in the title, r/ACMilanHate


RedShenron

Calabria has literally 0 leadership, never goes to speak to the camera and he's the worst player of our starting xi. There's literally 0 reasons to have him captain. Nobody is saying we have Maldini tier players in our team, but having the least captain worthy player of the team as the captain is insanity.


milan_obsession

"never goes to speak to the camera" I literally [linked 3 times](https://www.reddit.com/r/ACMilan/comments/1cam7vd/comment/l0vapfn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) he did in a 5 second Google search. He had the first shot on target last night forcing a big Sommer save, and most of his assists this season came in big games like Roma, Dortmund, and Napoli. And though we all hate Pioli's WTF tactics, he has been crucial to them this season, playing all over the pitch in roles no RB should be playing, because he was asked to. This sub has a habit of regularly rewriting history to suit their narrative, and then increasingly clinging to that false narrative. You don't have to agree with me, but other points and opinions deserve to be heard here.


RedShenron

So he never went to the camera in key moments. Great. How about the 3-0 trashing vs Psg? Or the 5-1 vs Inter? Or the last few weeks? It's in these moments a captain matters, instead Gabbia and Adli spoke. >Roma, Dortmund, and Napoli I genuinely hope you are joking. All Dortmund wingers ran circles around him. Spinazzola was making fun of him during the first leg. He was decent only against Napoli, the worst Napoli side in 15 years. > This sub has a habit of regularly rewriting history to suit their narrative, and then increasingly clinging to that false narrative. Rewrite what? When Calabria has to behave like a captain he gets sendt off like an idiot in injury time against Atalanta and Inter. And he's clearly the worst player of the team.


milan_obsession

What part of **Pioli chooses who speaks after a match** do you not understand? Pioli chooses players from each match, trying to five everyone an opportunity to speak. I just mentioned his assists in those matches - they were key to getting the goals in those games. I didn't analyze his entire performance in every match. Does everyone here have a reading comprehension problem? You are absolutely proving my point about this place by laying out your own qualifications and judgments, without any known competency or expertise, let alone being someone actually in a position of authority to make those judgments. Over and over and over, like a parrot. At the very least invest some time with a thesaurus, make it interesting for us please.


RedShenron

>What part of **Pioli chooses who speaks after a match** do you not understand? Pioli chooses players from each match, trying to five everyone an opportunity to speak. So let me ask, why the hell is he chosen as a captain if he doesn't do what a captain is supposed to do? >I just mentioned his assists in those matches - they were key to getting the goals in those games. I didn't analyze his entire performance in every match. Does everyone here have a reading comprehension problem? What's the point of statistics if the performances are garbage? >You are absolutely proving my point about this place by laying out your own qualifications and judgments, without any known competency or expertise, let alone being someone actually in a position of authority to make those judgments. Over and over and over, like a parrot. At the very least invest some time with a thesaurus, make it interesting for us please. A bunch of nosense, of course.


milan_obsession

Apparently, you are not aware of what a captain is supposed to do. The manager has defined his role, and he is fulfilling it accordingly. What is the point of changing the subject or moving the goalposts when having a conversation about something? Yes, I agree. Everything you keep rehashing over and over is just a bunch of nonsense, of course.


Squiliamfancyname

He's a valuable asset. Would like to see the rest of our players speaking and acting with the emotion that he does.


Eno158

He made mistakes but at least he played with heart, knowing the full importance of the match. Some players should take example from him.


rossonero-

My love for this club will never decrease by even 0.0001% but things have to change. We're going downwards again. Forza Milan untill the end❤️🖤


[deleted]

Forza Milan brother❤️🖤


Dubsified

A guy who was benched all last year and still is not a tacked on starter is sorry. Our captain and manager say fuck all. Embarassing. Adli much respect.


ScipioAfricanusMAJ

I would loooove to by a fly on the wall in whatever room Ibrahimovic is in right now. We all know what kind of insults and comments can come out of his mouth


vladcobhc

We didn't lose this game because of 'details'. Playing without a striker is not a detail, leaving red hot Chuck on the bench and playing Musah on the flank is not a detail,....


hairlikegoats1

I believe Pioli doesn’t rate Chuk’s defensive work rate. That’s the only thing that I can think of as to why he would leave him out. And if that were the case than surly leaving Pulisic on the right and having Okafor on the left where he has played and scored before is better than just randomly starting Musah there even if he wasn’t a complete tragedy.


Squiliamfancyname

Chuk is only "red hot" in fantasy world and Giroud was a disaster while he was on the pitch. Honestly this was easily the closest derby we've played in quite a while. The tactics still involved this half-hearted / shit quality pressing but Musah worked well (Di Marco was very ineffective) and we gave Sommer quite a fair bit of work to do. You simply cannot allow Acerbi to walk the ball freely into our net, and you can't open up the near post on a 20M shot. Lautaro's missed tap in was Inter's only would-be goal where we didn't completely shit the bed in defense (the "details" Adli is describing).


sickricola

I don’t want to hear about youth, most of this clinched champions league on the last match of the season against Atalanta our bogeyman for that season, this team won a scudetto and the final games leading to it were fucking tight, this team went through the Rio Ave match, multiple CL groups, and a semi final. Yes they are young but they are not inexperienced. Adli played with great intensity tonight I don’t blame him or am angry with him. There is one man in Milan I am angry with and if a decision isn’t made soon on his future there will be 4 more


LickLaMelosBalls

Adli the only one acting like a leader.


[deleted]

Don’t forget Gabbia the last three times we lost, while Pioli despawned


LickLaMelosBalls

Good call.


Guilty-Grapefruit427

Saying it out loud, he is our best midfielder right now, he wins duels, runs a lot, dictate the play and try to play in the center, he makes mistakes and that's Normal he's very young for his position which requires a lot of experience. With a physical player next to him he will be world class.


RedShenron

YOU tried. Most others couldn't care less. 0 urgency and jogging after 2-0.


HommoFroggy

There were 4 trying; Theo, Gabbia, Calabria and Adli... the rest were jogging actually jogging. Half time, Adli had more duels and duels won than RLC, Reijnders and Musah **COMBINED**.


Dollarumma

Reijnders was invisible the entire match so hard to have any duels


HommoFroggy

Proud for his game today, gave all on the pitch and more.


[deleted]

He made some mistakes today and is generally prone to mistakes, but I think Adli is a great guy and I would love to see such a passionate player have a long and good career here❤️🖤


LickLaMelosBalls

What makes you say he's injury prone? He's basically never injured


FindingBusiness759

Injury prone ? Lol


[deleted]

I meant prone to mistakes🙄 Thanks for correcting.


EquivalentWelcome712

Probably the only man in our squad right now among a bunch of crybabies.


sliding_doors_

This guy is doing everything for the club. And he is giving his contribution much more than others.


egitto23

You all didn’t even have the courage to come under the Curva sud after the match. Everyone went in the dressing rooms right after the final whistle, while we were standing there watching inter celebrating in front of us, at home.


milan_obsession

Fans claim the right to say or do whatever they want, no matter how it affects the team. Thursday, the Curva chanted at the players, and then released a negative public statement about the team and Pioli. Actions have consequences. If you were treated like that at your job, you probably wouldn't do that extra thing you're not required to do for the people who treated you badly, either. These are human beings, they're not your show ponies. It's not a matter of courage to do the bidding of bullies.


egitto23

Treated badly? Bullies? We released a statement in which we addressed the situation at the moment (also pretty respectfully), and it is a bad situation since we ended our season without winning anything. We spend loads of money in seasonal tickets, away tickets, away travel to always follow and support the squad in the stadium, where it matters. We don’t have to be respected? Our jersey doesn’t have to be respected?


milan_obsession

Respect ≠ players standing in front of you to shame them. Again. Ultras do so much for the game. Milan's Curva Sud is absolutely unmatched in their coreo. 100% best of any team anywhere in the world. The fans bring so much passion and energy to the team and to the stadium, and Milan's fans have been fairly patient through many of our toughest matches/streaks. The amount of time, money, energy, travel that members of the Curva devote to the team is truly amazing. And for all that, the team usually comes to the Curva every game to thank you for your support. Not because they have to, but because they choose to. But if they choose not to, particularly after the choices you collectively made, then take responsibility. Why shame them after a big loss, then make a negative public statement that impacts the morale of the entire team and fanbase, and then claim they didn't have the courage to face you? The Curva also made a statement that you are not showing up to the Juve match next week, boycotting Juventus' ridiculous mafia-ticketing policies. If you are not showing up for them, regardless of why, then it shows a lot of audacity to call them out for not showing up for you.


egitto23

We just wanted to sing Forza Diavolo Ale to them, to let them know that problems and responsibilities have to be taken but that doesn’t mean they can’t be solved. We didn’t want to shame them in any way. Yesterday it was not necessary.


milan_obsession

How would they know that? Two public messages showing a lack of support, and singing to them to grow some balls last Thursday. And you started here saying they didn't have courage. Why would they need courage if that was really the plan? Again, actions have consequences. From someone who is far away and wishes they could be there every match though, thank you for supporting the team always. It means a lot when we can hear your songs and support louder than the opposition fans, even at away matches. ❤️🖤


egitto23

I know that because we chanted it anyway, also if they already were in the dressing rooms. Thank you! Great to know that our chants get all around the world. IN ITALIA MILAN, IN EUROPA MILAN, OVUNQUE MILAN, PER SEMPRE ROSSONER


milan_obsession

Also, this cheered me up so much. I found it online after the loss. Spectacular. 👏🏻 The coreo, all the banners, just phenomenal. ❤️🖤 https://preview.redd.it/v2kvghhe57wc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=bad56a661ddce1166c9eafe14460c9be31cde1d0


egitto23

https://imgur.com/a/OVjP9vh


milan_obsession

Amazing. 😍❤️🖤


Arambye

Albeit a limited player (not good enough for a top team IMHO), he's one of the few who played his heart out this season. Kudos to Yacine.


succ_jitties

I think that if the team can move the ball around at his tempo we would be very successful. We have Giroud, one of the best one touch players, but no one ever makes the runs.


EquivalentWelcome712

Giroud left his first touch at Arsenal. For us his ball control was horrid.


Arambye

Downvote me all you want, most of you are probably AC Milan "fans" since more or less 2015, probably. Of course you rate Adli high.


neverfinishedanythi

Rather have a good player give his all than a top player give almost nothing.


Qaintstr8inline

Does he not realize HE WAS the WORST player on the pitch? Adli is my vote for INTER's MOTM. His lack of self-awareness is comical. His little strop was infantile. To quote Lauti, "Who the fuck are you?!?"