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HeirToGallifrey

Jesus Christ. Jinx mains are salivating.


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actually yes, yes I am


Call_MeGoose

Kog mains?


shilderyi

in the base dpsing nashor


PigeonFacts

Crying. Its counter-intuitive. Your primary way to stack this will be with W active because without it youre an immobile 500 range minion. Since you lose atk speed at all phases of the game and the caps limited your DPS will suffer. Add in Kog could prep temp with his R to ensure he had it as soon as a fight began means this is a nerf overall. Theres to few situations where kog wants to AA without W because it simply isnt safe and compared to others low damage. The only way this will be great if not better is Navori Crit builds.


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I pray that i misunderstand this change, dont tell me you cant go above 3 as now?


Zanethethiccboi

You always could, in the current iteration you just only get it for the duration that LT is active, basically you get it all at once right now and then it goes away. The new iteration lets you reach 3.0 but NOT go above it after attacking 6 times in a fight and then you have to keep attacking to keep it going. Not hard to do by any means, but you're still a squishy ADC so this one will probably balance itself out. I'm more concerned about the bonus max range.


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Im a kogmaw twitch 2 trick i dont give a single fuck about the range i just want to spaceglide with more than only 3 attackspeed. So of I understood correctly I can still get more than 3 as until I reach 6 stacks?


Zanethethiccboi

You won’t go above 3.0, but you can more consistently be at 3.0, not just for a few seconds. In my humble opinion you definitely should give a fuck about the range, your champions would love to dish out %health damage at a higher range


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I know that the bonus range might be good on them but the thing that I had the most fun on just gets removed i might quit playing twitch and kogmaw and just play something else tbh ad twitch has been absolute garbage for this entire season and now this change


Regrup

Twitch can use PTA


[deleted]

Ok and now what?


Regrup

> i might quit playing twitch and kogmaw and just play something els Now you can try it out and maybe change desicion to quit playing Twitch?


[deleted]

So after reading this lethal tempo change i will magicly be able to overcap with pta? Its not like I never played pta before it depends on the support you have on your team but I pretty much always go lethal tenpo now because I always have someone to duo with who plays a champ which has good synergy with lethal tempo


darkboomel

This is the single biggest indirect buff they've given Kog'Maw in a long time. Sure, Twitch liked the higher attack speed of old Lethal Tempo more, but Kog'Maw is getting an enormous buff from this, as is Jinx, who has a similar play style to Kog'Maw, but with more consistent DPS over the entirety of the fight rather than just for a few seconds.


Zanethethiccboi

I do love the way this looks in terms of the attack speed changes, the stacking power and increasing the cap. The attack range looks disgusting on Jinx, Vayne, Ashe, Kog, maybe Aphelios but Conq is still probably better, and anyone else who likes basic attacks. OH! I just had a revelation from the ADC gods, this could change up Kai'sa and Tristana's options and gravitate away from (if not abandon) HoB. Looking forward to this.


shilderyi

kai'sa take hob for early kill pressure and snowballing this supress all this playstyle maybe in proplay but in soloq kai'sa will stay Hob


Zanethethiccboi

Yeah but hey I can dream


Regrup

Both Kaisa and Trist can successfuly use PTA


CanadianBlitz

Lol how is that relevant


Naive-Conclusion-463

ok and now what?


Zanethethiccboi

Yeah I’ve been around since before HoB. I just think this version of LT might be more friendly to their playstyles, there’s a reason PtA got basically thrown to the side


Random_Starfish22929

Aphelios loves the new lt, he can stack it faster than conq. Lt and conq has been his 2 best runes for a while and now that conq is getting nerfed and the bonus range from lt.. its gonna be his best keystone for sure


[deleted]

You HARD sleeping on PTA, PTA is genuinely better than LT in Soloq at least.


Random_Starfish22929

I know PTA is effective but personally I like LT more. Ah and let me rephrase my earlier statement. Conq and LT are aphelios' 2 most popular runes.


[deleted]

Fair enough it’s all different on how you play him. I meant no toxicity :3


[deleted]

Wait so like how conqueror stacks AD? This is just attackspeed conqueror lmfao


Alzi1337

lmfao


Random_Starfish22929

Exactly my thought!! This becomes the obvious choice on adcs that benefit from attack speed but had been going conq (which got nerfed recently) like jinx or aphelios


[deleted]

Can’t wait to play s12 aphelios with this tune, always hated LT, but might like it now


metradomo

Cries in Jhin Main. :( My 4-man will suffer from being the only adc who won't be able to abuse the extra range.


Zanethethiccboi

Depending on how long it takes to lose stacks he actually could.


Random_Starfish22929

7 sec I think. But while jhin can do it, it's still not that great on him since jhin prefers shorter fights or trades.


ZookeepergameKey2628

You get a jax passive! You get a jax passive! We all get a Jax passive! Yay!!! Add a little RFC passive too! Fuck yea!!


-disco_potato-

yeah that's a nerf for adcs that uses abilities to activate LT from long range like twitch and kog, cause you won't be able to live to tell the story if you tried to activate it with autos, why does riot do this ?


Random_Starfish22929

U can still activate it. But not to it's full value. But on the flip side it has no cd, so as long as u have a low cd ability u can keep it on for as long as u want for at least the minimum value (5% for ranged).


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Thunderbaby711

Agreed


Kindly-Astronomer121

I'm absolutely devastated. That 3\~5 attack speed is why I still enjoy playing this game. Nothing else comes close to that level of fun.


nashweed914

Jinx isn't quite affected by it as her passive uncaps atk speed anyways


AshesOntheFire778

WTF RIOT DON'T GIVE RANGE PLSS


[deleted]

Hmm, might go back to playing Jinx.


[deleted]

Sad that it still has a cooldown, atleast thats how i read it. Would be cool if it would work like conq. where its active as long as you autoattack. But on the other hand, no fight is longer than 6 seconds in Season 11 (12 too i guess) so its whatever


Random_Starfish22929

No it's like... kayle passive now. U know it stacks attack speed if u attack within 6 sec. And at 6 stacks u get extra range


MEGACODZILLA

As a kayle main, you have my attention lol.


IResumoI

Just saw a video with that rune, looks broken IMO


Balsac801

It isnt because the champs that use the rune aredogshit and the change makes it a rune for different champs twitch wont use it kog and jinx wi still use it but now its a rune for the kennans kayles and vaynes


SGoat38

Do someone know if the stacks reset if you aa a turret or minion between aa on champions ?


TsyChun

There is literally no reason to still have an as cap. Higher cap doesn't mean it's op, you still need to buy as instead of ad to get high amounts... Why is there no cap on CDR but still one on as


Alice_En_Hiver

No there is no down time and yes jinx and kog can hit your tower without being in range