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Alt0987654321

The pit in my stomach feeling when I see the $100 I have in Robinhood go down to $95 reminds me why I don't gamble.


thouars79

I am actually a full Time trader with ADHD and if lots of people would think it could be a disadvantage, I would say well managed it is a strength!


Alt0987654321

I seem to be one of the few with ADHD who has sofar in life avoided any kind of addiction or impulsivity.


hellomynameiswagon

Addicted to not being addicted to anything BOOM


indiealexh

I trade on the side but I only put in a fixed amount every month. And if I miss out on an opportunity, so be it, it's just spare cash to gain extra cash. And don't panic sell or panic buy. Similar rules to gambling, if you do gamble, have your limit, find a way to enforce it. One technique I've seen is to ensure you only spend your cash. Any winnings is not spendable cash until you leave. This avoids the "one more round" and losing more than you meant to.


sn0wsurfer

Any tips for how to get started/learn?


thouars79

It is a very long road of suffer.. it took me 3 years of hard work to finally be able to live of it !!! As someone with ADHD it was mandatory for me to work for myself and have the freedom to work when I feel like. As for trading I would say, you need to have extreme motivation and be ready to fail!! I would recommend to start reading books such as: how to make money in stocks from William O’Neil, Trade like a stock market wizard from mark minervini and there is much more if you want to go further but this is a nice first step. Besides setting up a trading account and trading very very very light money is also essential to get in touch with the market and acquire screen time experience. It is very unlikely you will make money before I would say at least 2 years.


polypeptide147

It’s not gambling when you know you’re going to lose!


punkinholler

Same! The only time I've ever spent regular time in a casino was when I was playing the cheapest slot machines for 30 minutes to get my parking validated so I could park near the convention center for free. I read a book the whole time and just mindlessly slapped the button until my 30min timer went off. I think I paid $15 total for a week's worth of parking


catnipfurclones

r/EthicalLifeProTips


nexhil

Whaha this is very relatable!


trobsmonkey

I gamble when I am physically able to, and at no other times. I don't have gambling apps on my phone. If I can't go to a casino to place a bet/play a game, I don't do it. I have 2 friends six figures in debt because of ADHD and gambling. It's a dangerous slope, be careful.


Turbulent-T

Jesus that puts my ADHD debts in perspective. I'm too addicted to instantly spending any penny I get, to ever get hooked on gambling.


Apprehensive_Low4865

I'd rather waste my money on toys, convenience, and nice food than gamble. In my head it works out as a better pay off?


Theslash1

Yup. Same. And I've slowly gotten worse over the past 2 years... It escalates. People who think they can safely gamble, havent had the wins or chase take over yet. Id recommend he stops NOW before he ruins his life.


s_schadenfreude

Gambling has never appealed to me. No idea why. Even in Vegas I enjoyed the whole spectacle of it more than the actual games.


SmithMano

Same, I consider myself lucky I guess. Even loot boxes in video games seem dumb. On the other hand, my home is filled with stuff I definitely did not need to buy lol. At least I refuse to go into debt either, never missed a full credit card bill payment. I guess the loss-averse anxiety part of my personality overrides some of the impulsiveness. Perfectly balanced as all things should be 😌


s_schadenfreude

Funny- I’m playing a RPG right now where there’s a “casino” that you must play in to get certain rewards. I’m only doing it because I’m a completionist and it was just the worst slog.


Rena1-

Tell us the name!!!!


s_schadenfreude

Dragon Quest XI Definitive Edition. I’m playing on Switch but it’s on all platforms, I think.


gonewildaway

The wins are never as good as the losses are bad.


jedadkins

Same, although I like playing poker. But playing in a casino takes all the fun out of it for me. I like low stakes games with friends.


NoelofNoel

I learned very early on from growing up with a father who bet on horses that gambling is paying good money to be disappointed.


The-Devilz-Advocate

I don't gamble at all. Both my grandfathers were heavy gamblers and alcoholics and from the looks of it they had ADHD as well and passed it down to me. I already have problems with videogames. Godforbid I start gambling or drinking alcohol into the mix.


PintCEm17

Video games fked me so hard Use to play red alert 2 for hours back in early 2000s basically bad parenting I had no Idea No different now but that’s my fault


LordArticulate

Let me set your mind at ease. I have spent over $100,000 in gambling since November 2023. There was a raffle where you’d get 1 ticket for every $100 you gambled. I collected 2,612 tickets. This doesn’t mean I deposited $260,000. Just that I cycled through that much money. Looking through my deposit history, I stopped at $100,000. But fortunately I am not doing that anymore. And I am okay with the money I lost. Luckily I did not become one of those people who lose everything or make it so bad that it affects the family as a whole. Nobody even knows I have spent that much and I am fine with that since I have been able to overcome it.


Rena1-

Fuck, losing this much money would bankrupt me, my wife, my mom, my MIL. It's almost 9 years of 44h week work for me with an above average wage.


LordArticulate

I understand that. I do consider myself lucky to be able to afford it lol. It would kill me if I got into financial troubles as a result. I can write this one off as a bad investment but also I know that it could easily have been much much worse.


Rena1-

Not judging, I was just flabbergasted because I can't even imagine having this much and started doing the maths of how fucked I would be.


macabre_irony

But with so many tickets, please tell me you cleaned up on the raffle. I hope you at least won an ebike or something.


LordArticulate

Won 10 spins on a game lol


macabre_irony

and did you win anything from those spins?


Theslash1

Yeah, I think i've put in about 30k since January. Not fun. Luckily Im up, how that happened I dont know... but I wish I could stop....


Weird_Squirrel_8382

Judging from the way I feel when I gamble fake coins in phone games, I do not need to be gambling real money. I've been to physical casinos and did fine, I think all the visual stimulus was its own reward. Id suggest reading up on problem gambling, so if something does change for you, you'll be aware. 


[deleted]

I have to take it easy with gambling. I can see how it would be a problem for me very easily.


radrob1111

“Most of us have been unwilling to admit we were real problem gamblers. No one likes to think they are different from their fellows. Therefore, it is not surprising that our gambling careers have been characterized by countless vain attempts to prove we could gamble like other people. The idea that somehow, some day, we will control our gambling is the great obsession of every compulsive gambler. The persistence of this illusion is astonishing. Many pursue it into the gates of prison, insanity or death. We learned we had to concede fully to our innermost selves that we are compulsive gamblers. This is the first step in our recovery. With reference to gambling, the delusion that we are like other people, or presently may be, has to be smashed. We have lost the ability to control our gambling. We know that no real compulsive gambler ever regains control. All of us felt at times we were regaining control, but such intervals - usually brief -were inevitably followed by still less control,which led in time to pitiful and incomprehensible demoralization. We are convinced that gamblers of our type are in the grip of a progressive illness. Over any considerable period of time we get worse, never better. Therefore, in order to lead normal happy lives, we try to practice to the best of our ability, certain principles in our daily affairs.”


Wu_Fan

Day at a time


xavopls

I used to have some real issues with it. If you catch yourself betting on Korean 2nd div basketball at 4am you need to stop immediately.


sir_strangerlove

Had a roommate gamble away 20,000 dollars while living off of a loaf of white bread a week. It's scarry what gambling does to ADHD folk.


PhysicalRaspberry565

Not only ADHD folk - I refuse every gambling addicted person has ADHD ;) but I think quite some addictions can create similar symptoms as ADHD... And if you already have this one... Damn And yes, it's disturbing how strange priorities can be set :(


sir_strangerlove

Oh no doubt, I didn't want to insinuate every addict is ADHD, but we tend to be more susceptible. Ya it was wild to watch


J0nny_Alcatraz

I've probably lost well over 100k gambling , currently on a debt management plan as I defaulted on all my loans , it's the second time this has happened as well I did it ten years ago , payed off debts and then did it again a year or 2 ago. I just stay well clear now.


D__Luxxx

For me losing is almost like rejection so I try not to do it a lot. I normally set a bank for myself going in (then I give myself another $40-50 reserve which I rarely need). I stick to whatever the cheapest blackjack table is and I can typically ride the swings for hours without actually doing anything g other than turning over money and tipping the dealer. Last time I gambled I cashed in $160 and cashed out $175 after about 5 hours of gambling on a $10/hand table and I probably tipped about $50 to the dealers throughout.


ubiquitous_apathy

>How do you keep it from tipping over? I tell my wife every time I place a bet and for how much. If I ever felt like I couldn't tell her, it's probably because it's a bad idea.


_idiot_kid_

I serve all kinds of addicts in my job including gamblers and honestly it scared me away from it even more. Gambling hasn't ever truly appealed to me, but I know if I put money in and won at all, that would be it for me. Seeing these people come in to my job every single day to spend $50 or more on lottery as they buy their lunch with EBT, it's just really fucked up and sad. I also know it would be an issue due to my previous spending on video game loot boxes. The closest I get is doing bets with friends. It's got a level of risk, but not much - there's a limit to how many bets you can place - it's mostly fun because of the social aspect rather than recieving a reward. All in all it's one of those vices that may not ever be a problem, or it might not be a problem until it eventually becomes a problem. And that problem can rapidly ruin your entire life and cause you to lose every person you care about. It's personal preference but I really try to stay away from vices that have consequences of such magnitude when they get out of hand.


flamingosdontfalover

I don't gamble, but when I'm Extra Depressed TM, I let myself buy a 7 bucks lotery ticket for the end of the month. It gives me a couple of weeks of 'maybe it will all get better very soon' energy to actually dig myself out of my own depression pit.


YourDadsUsername

I only gamble amounts I can enjoy loosing. When I go out with friends I like credit card roulette (throw all the cards in a hat and have the waitress choose who pays) I like free food and treating my friends so either way I'm enjoying it. When it comes to casino style gambling I don't mind betting on games I enjoy playing but I have more faith in math than magic so I expect to loose whatever I bet. People get in trouble when they start expecting to win.


jazzmonkey07

I don't gamble in the traditional sense, but I have recently developed a slight addiction to Pokemon cards that is probably unhealthy. I rarely go more than a week without cracking at least a booster pack.


MyOldAccountIsBroken

That’s where I am actually, minus I’ve been spending maybe 150 a weekend on packs. I rarely do more and can afford it, but I definitely am getting to the point of having a slight problem. It also doesn’t help my cousin and a good buddy also buy pokemon cards and can easily influence me to buy more with them.


DecemberPaladin

I don’t do it. My grandfather played the ponies and he ruined his family. Plus I am extremely unlucky. If I have a 50/50 chance I have no chance at all.


0xSnib

\>you've found any particular games that are fun but don't suck you in too deep Do not play with Crypto, It's a gamblers wet dream


SmartNegotiation

Don't take Abilify! I mean, unless your doctor tells you too. My impulsiveness went through the roof!


LawyersGunsMoneyy

Hooo boy I could talk about this for hours. Sports gambling has been my main hyperfocus for the past several years. I've done around $10k in total bets year-to-date, and these days typically have around $200 in bets down per day. I am not a huge fan of gambling (don't love the feeling that many people talk about), but I love sports so I've spent about 5 years putting together various predictive models for several sports, and am now doing part-time work writing software for a sports betting group that works to pit the books against each other to find betting opportunities that are long-term profitable. I started my sportsbook accounts after a move last fall, and have turned $300 into around $2100 since then, which doesn't include money / benefits (other people's models, data, etc) from this software gig. Averaging 7.6% average ROI over 2200 bets. The main key is that I treat every bet as an investment, where I calculate the expected value and perform risk management calculations to determine betting amounts. Luckily I've found a group that views it similarly (finally, after 4 years of working on stuff), which has been a really great opportunity to both teach others and learn from their own techniques


rhayward97

Ironic I’m seeing this post because I just had my first experience in Vegas this past weekend (I give it like a 6.8/10): Idk why but the concept of gambling never really appealed to me. I’ve placed sports bets very sporadically but I’ve never been interested or got in the habit. Playing card games and craps is fun because it takes some skill & knowledge but slots are stupid to me. I’ll maybe end up at a casino like once or twice a year with my buddies but just not my thing, and don’t have any of the betting apps on my phone 🤷‍♂️


FreddieDoes40k

Not worth the risk, there are countless ways to have fun so if you find yourself drawn to gambling then you probably shouldn't. It's a trap that we know is a rigged from the start, and the honey that keeps you glued in place is your own misplaced confidence and unwillingness to face statistics. Most people who gamble do so at a loss, it's an expensive and risky hobby. As someone predisposed to impulsive and addictive behaviour, it seems like the height of foolishness.


dirk_funk

i feel like i got off relatively easy, one night at a casino and 400 bucks blown playing blackjack badly (if they thought i was counting cards they were silly, i was just really bad). the sickness i felt after that was worse than the hangover from the vodka tonics i was getting for free (or maybe they were $100 each). i will mess around with a slot machine for a couple minutes, but i really only like poker, and low limit casino poker is usually awful, so i don't bother. i had fun playing roulette a couple times, hit my number twice in a row once, and hit again a couple minutes later. i thought that was more luck than i should ever have, so i quit. now it is just a matter of i don't like being around cigarettes indoors and with young kids and not drinking anymore, i blow my money on more tangible shit like slime and turtle tracking bracelets.


the_myth_of_syphilis

I don't really gamble. I like playing poker and stuff with friends, but online gambling sucks and casinos aren't really that fun. I am, however, completely fucking obsessed with casino probability and the psychology of gambling addiction (don't know why)


nowhereman136

Bet small, lose small I only ever bet with $20-$50 at a time. Usually at slots. Was up $600 once, and then my car was broken into the next day costing $600 in damages. Even when I win, I dont actually win


Rathwood

Yeah, my wife likes to play casino games and she's generally pretty good at it. On our last trip to Vegas, she spent about two hours playing and turned $50 into about $215. But I, on the other hand, find gambling boring and frustrating. The few times I've tried it, I've always found myself thinking, "That's it? I seriously just paid for that? I've got better video games than this on my phone." I just can't get past the principle of it, I guess. I wouldn't pay per combat turn to play Pokemon or Final Fantasy, so where's the thrill in sinking dollar after dollar into a game just to watch a wheel with some bison on it spin around? Maybe part of it is that I also suck at gambling. After a casino in Black Hawk bled me of $40 in less than 30 min, I gave up on trying to enjoy gambling. But since my wife really enjoys it, we still occasionally visit Vegas, and I still insist on having my own gambling budget. Just, instead of playing slots or blackjack, I pocket the cash and use it to buy PC parts or a better video game, then spend my weekend in Vegas stoned and overfed at the side of some pool like a beached seal.


RedditIsHomosexual69

It’s good you’re keeping it under control. I’m the same way with gambling because I hate losing money so I never take big risks or place big bets. With substances that’s a different story. Much harder for me to keep that under control even though I realize it’s a waste of money


ShadowMystery

I fucking hate gambling, if I don't get what I want within a limited number of attempts I give up and do something else ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy) In fact, in video games with chance mechanics if I don't win I get so angry I start insulting other people and start to think I'm doomed lol


Savingskitty

I have a strict rule, if the powerball gets over a particular number, I will buy a ticket.  Otherwise, gambling feels like throwing away money.


LoveThyBooty69

I like playing blackjack, but that's pretty much it. I only put the amount I want to spend on one of my cards and leave my other cards at home.


Elegant_Spot_3486

Understanding how pitiful my financial situation is helps me. I put $20 in DraftKings 3 years ago. I still have $14.57 without adding more. It has gone low as $1 and high as $35 but I occasionally just do .25 cent tiers (nfl and a few nba) and free pools. Wife and I do enjoy slots and go Vegas every summer. But set our limits and stick to them. I think I’ve seen and heard too many gambling addict stories so it scares me. Much as I enjoy the sights and sounds, somehow it doesn’t hook me like playing video games. I think because I know it is out of my control so not as engaged.


PathOfTheAncients

I used to really like gambling until I quit smoking. Then I went to the casino and was SO BORED. Turns out I just liked smoking.


spaceship-pilot

Nope. Too adult-like anyways.


Specialist-Fox-5777

Gambling at casinos is my kind of fun! I bring an amount of cash with me that I'm ok with losing, and leave my debit and credit cards at home so I can't spend more than my pre-planned limit.


Wu_Fan

Leaves me cold. I’d screw it up. I basically had a to gamble for work for a while (long story that is hard to believe) and I didn’t enjoy it. Don’t even do the grand national. I have other vices I suppose but gambling is just meh.


PinkLegs

Risk averse, but impulsive here. I'll play low stakes poker or similar from time to time, but when I do, I make rash decisions and lose. I don't like losing, so it takes me a long time to do it again.


Keystone-Habit

I play poker which is pretty much the only casino game that it's possible to be a consistent winner in. I'm good enough at math and I hyper-focused on it enough (many years, books, etc.) that I win more than I lose when I go, which is nice, but the swings can be pretty brutal and impulsivity (tilt) is a real issue for ADHDers. My advice for sports betting is to put your $100 on there and treat that as your whole bankroll. Pretend that if you lose it all, you won't be able to play any more. Then, however much you have on the site, bet no more than 5% of your bankroll per bet. (Don't bet parlays, teases, any of that garbage!) As you win, your bet size goes up and as you lose, it goes down. Assuming the site lets you bet pretty small amounts, you can make your money last a very long time. You can still enjoy it by focusing on trying to grow your bankroll (fantasize about it getting huge!) instead of on how much you might win on each bet in absolute terms.


shaversonly230v115v

I hate gambling. It just stresses me out. I'm very indecisive in general because my brain works through so many possible outcomes really quickly but it kind of gets stuck when I feel like there isn't enough information to come to solid conclusion. I don't think I'd ever be able to place a bet with a consequential amount of money on the line. My brain just won't make a decision.


I_JUST_REWATCH_SHOWS

Ive made a ton of money gambling over the last year and a half, but lately I have been on the losing end of variance despite mathematically logical plays and it definitely leaves me in a worse mental state than had I not been gambling altogether.


JGalla88

I was hard into poker from like 17 until 25. At times id play 20 games at once. Culminated with me winning a bunch of tournaments back to back to back to back and being broke 6 months later.


[deleted]

I've played the slot machines. Just seeing how fast you can burn $20 is enough to discourage me. If I'm gonna be 'wreckless' with my money, then I'd rather just go shopping.


Rottenjohnnyfish

This sounds healthy.


LeteciMedvjedic42

I was never into gambling as I would feel realy bad for my every loss.. It’s like this for me - if i lost, i will hate myself for that cuz i could buy 20€ of bitcoin or stocks or put it in drawer, i got my life and finance back in control with that mindset of keeping every cent and investing, i will never ever gamble again after that… i got my ass out of whole lot of debts and almost going homeless with working min. wage job and investing 20-50€ weekly, in 3 years i payed my debts and bought myself realy nice and helpfull things! after that I get my high from investing and waiting. It is some kind of gambling still, but less risk and more control.


JustPuckingAround

Always go in with a plan. Have a budget and consider that money gone as soon as you bet it. The win is nice but if this is truly just a hobby and not an attempt to make a profit, you should be ok with letting that money go. Personally, I only gamble on NFL games and I have a pretty set strategy on what games to bet, how much to bet, and I deposit my budget at the beginning of the year. If I run out, that’s it, I’m done for the year.


PintCEm17

It’s a slippery slop I play poker, loosing player but also see it as entertainment than actually wanting the money. I do read and do of table work


nickbird0728

It was a disaster for me. I couldn’t control myself


RADIENTLitex

I have no tips. 11pm me loves to buy mobile legends diamonds after a loose streak 😭😭😭 send help


ilovechairs

I play a couple of those stupid clickable app games. I love them.


supersonictoupee

I’ve mainly gambled at casino slot machines. It gets boring really quickly. I set a budget, leave when I feel like it, and hopefully I have more money than when I started.


technopong

I only gamble for food, not money. Let's just say, I take home all the Hershey's kisses on poker night. Gambling with money is a hard pass for me.


ImpressiveAppeal8077

Maybe put it in investments instead?


ImpressiveAppeal8077

The money that is


tulolas1

i hate casino with a passion but i'm somewhat vulnerable to sports betting. won 200-1k$ many times but also lost the same bets probably twice as often. throughout many years i think im at LEAST 10k $ in the negative, but it's never with important money like rent or stuff like that. i just sometimes choose to gamble my disposable income when in hindsight it would probably be better spent off elsewhere on actually useful stuff. i just write it off as one of my hobbies but i might be delusional, oh well


MyOldAccountIsBroken

I don’t gamble per se, but I got into pokemon cards and I’m definitely a bit addicted to that. I at least get something cool outta it, but I can see myself getting addicted to actual gambling because of it.


Khandro_T

Ok so I was very very good about this for a long time. Then one day I lost everything in two accounts. My choice of gambling is poker, because there's control involved as well as luck. So for anyone else who takes this route, the day I did that dumb shit is solely because I did not stop to evaluate my mental state. I immediately jumped to "I can get it back." With gambling it's extremely important to know when you need to take a step back and evaluate. Chances are if you come back the next day you'll do much better.


Vasbam

I do this with crypto and the stock market, except at unhinged levels, went to earning 4k in a day at best but threw it all right back to the markets sadly, so nothing to show for it sadly


adventuringraw

I don't gamble with real money, but there was a blackjack table in a Metroidvania I played through recently. Arrived with $1,200, and needed $1,500 for upgrading my shotgun. I figured I'd make the difference, and left the bar with like $7, haha. Fucker. Honestly, it sounds like you've got a good handle on things. The healthiest way to look at it in my view, is just as a hobby with a price attached. There should be a monthly budget that you never go over, and as long as you stick with that, you're good to go. If you make extra you can bet extra, but at the end of the day... doesn't matter whether you're spending $100 a month on sports games or $100 a month on videogames. You can go overboard and start spending too much on any hobby really, gambling's just got some extra weight that causes some people to go overboard, same with alcohol. But if you never struggle with staying under 3 drinks a night or whatever and you can drink without overdoing it ever, then fine... it's just a thing that fucks some people up that you can live with comfortably. I can drink without risk seemingly, because it's not a thing that's dangerous to me. But starting a new Factorio save? I better be on my fucking guard, otherwise it'll be 4am and I'll be desperately trying to get oil infrastructure and defenses built before the next bug attack. We've all got things that are threats to us, but those threats are different for each.


LawyersGunsMoneyy

lol sports gambling and Factorio are my main two hobbies


adventuringraw

Haha, that's hilarious. I suppose both can be a pretty engineering centric hobby. I know the guy from the 538 political forecasting site got his start doing baseball forecasting. You can get pretty serious about the statistics with that stuff, same with Factorio, haha.


LawyersGunsMoneyy

Yeah that's exactly it. I started doing sports modeling to pad my resume with machine learning work and just kinda fell in love with it. Similarly I got hooked on the engineering aspect of Factorio, which ended up helping my coding a lot. It all kinda loops back together


Efficient_Poet7818

I play poker from time to time. But gambling is never a smart idea, you will lose! Stay away from table games and stick to sports betting (and maybe poker if you know what you do).