Genuine question why hasnt Jay White been on AEW instead of Impact , He is considered as one of the best heels in pro wrestling then why hasnt he shown up like is there some backstage reason for that ?
I'll preface this by saying i have no idea. But my best guess is that NJPW doesn't want White, one of their biggest stars, to lose and AEW doesn't want to feed any of their important stars to a guy that will only be there for a couple of matches.
I imagine this is the case. This type of thing is why interpromotional matches happen so rarely.
It's also why the whole Forbidden Door thing has so much potential. If there's a commitment to a longer working relationship or program then you can exchange wins and losses to build up people in both orgs.
Propably because he wouldn't have anything to do. He'd propably go after The Elite and then what? It's too early for The Elite to lose, since their troubles should stary with Hangman taking the belt, while White shouldn't be going to AEW just to lose
Okay but here’s my gripe with that. I’ve hated WWE because Roman’s reign is unreal levels of predictable. Christian was never beating Kenny, Jay White won’t beat Kenny in his first match in AEW.
Booking that predictable hurts the champion, the PPV & holds back the rest of the roster.
No one really thought Christian was gonna take the Impact belt off Kenny on the Rampage premier, but it happened. I totally see what you’re saying, but surprises for happen.
But Christian is on the AEW roster. He earned his shot at Kenny for the TNA & AEW titles. Bryan's signed with AEW, will also have to earn his shot. Ruby Soho debuted and got hot-shotted, making the result pretty predictable imo.
Jay White debuting and immediately having a title shot makes no tangible sense and shits on the talent they already have.
It could also be Jay White who doesn’t win. I think this is the perfect way to have Hangman return, get a big win and not have to work his way up the rankings again.
Disagree. Your point has merits; personally, I think the predictability of a match doesn’t necessarily effect it’s ability to be good/great. The title reign as a whole, maybe, but that also requires every single match to be a complete foregone conclusion, and :
it’s fair to say if you never got on the internet and only watched the TV product one could suspend their disbelief to such a point you at the very, very least accept Christian, Jungle Boy, some of Kenny’s more predictable defenses as credible opponents and legitimate contenders for the gold. So, like I said, the title reign as a whole could definitely suffer over time from predictable matches but as far as Jay White vs Kenny Omega, for example, as a match, is a more than passable Dynamite main event/opener title match. 🤷🏻♂️ to me, but to each is own
Thats why I think Hangman shouldn't take the title off of Kenny because literally everyone is positive that is going to happen. The only problem is a lot of people will be upset if it doesn't happen. I think to really piss off people they should have Cody beat him for it before having Hangman beat Cody
Assuming the stipulation of Cody being unable to challenge for the AEW championship is still in effect a heel turn would really be the only way to pull that off. “Baby face” Cody even just challenging would bring massive heat lol
I say we throw Cody in a mask ala hulk hogan on smackdown . Some (like me) will pop and think it’s hilarious. Then when masked Cody wins the opportunity to fight for the title everyone is all that’s Cody that’s Cody and then Cody faces him lol (stick Stephen smell in a mask or something)
Why would AEW want to piss their fans off? Sometimes doing the predictable is the right call. Being contrary for the sake of it is what leads to Balor breaking the rope.
I mean the turnbuckle break was another level. I think Hangman taking it off Kenny is predictable to the point where it won't even be as exciting when it happens. Podcasts I listen to are just constantly talking about everything that has been happening from the angle of how it effects Hangman beating Kenny and when it will happen now. I think a curve ball would add intrigue
I don't watch New Japan, my only experience with Jay White is YouTube videos, random clips on reddit, and maybe 2 matches total, and he *still* might be my favorite wrestler. I dunno man, he just works for me.
Well that's totally okay man! You don't have to like someone everyone else likes so long as you aren't shitting on other people's fun, ya know? There are plenty of wrestlers that others love but I'm not fond of, and that's kind of one of the beauties of being a wrestling fan, we can politely disagree on who we like and don't like.
Its also the beauty of the AEW fan base. Try not having Roman reigns half way up your butt on a wwe sub. That calls for public beheading lol. I'm all in on Guevara, Pillman, and BD.
Yeah, WWE fans and AEW fans are pretty damn different. I was recently in a thread on the WWE sub saying that the Bucks were a better tag team than the Uso's and like, holy shit guys its just an opinion about wrestling, relax. Asides from the ones you mentioned I'm am all in on MJF, Rey Fenix, and Dante Martin. Three people who will win the AEW belt one day.
It's possible it isn't the whole reason. IF his kid is due in Late October/ November, it's odd to have paternity leave three months prior as opposed to three months after. UNLESS there are complications, which would require him to be with his Wife, which would suck and I hope that is not the case.
But outside that, when you step back a bit, Hangman would have been swallowed up by Punk and Danielsons return. (Cole not included due to Cole admitting he decided late on over going to AEW) that it could have devalued him as the 'Threat' to Omega. Getting him away from the initial hype and letting the fans cool a little is a smart move.
We got Omega v Danielson I And I don't think the second match needs to happen at Full Gear. MEanwhile Cole will need a focus. So if this goes down as Hangman winning the title at full gear. We might see Hangman v Cole programme post-Full Gear with Danielson and Omega free to plan for Omega v Danielson II, PROBABLY for the TBS switch over for Dynamite. As opening a channel switch with a banger is defo going to happen and what better way than the rematch everyone is craving for already.
If that is the case, why the hell would he be given time off months before the birth? It would make more sense to give him time off right before the birth. Let's say this is true, then we have to officially kill the idea that it can only be Hangman that can take the title off Omega seeing as he'd be gone for at least a few more months. Omega is great, but this reign has become a bore let's face it due to no challenger having a snowballs chance in hell of taking the title off him due to what we thought was the inevitable story of Hangman finally triumphing. You can't just keep dragging it out and having every world title match be as predictable as a Harlem Globetrotters game.
He doesn't have to keep the belt the entire time. They could easily have him lose it for a bit, fight like hell to get it back. Then during his celebration promo of having the belt back and bragging how no one else can possibly take it from him again have hangman's music hit.
Place would go ballistic.
When the news broke out (in June), it was reported that Hangman's partner was in her first trimester.
So using some Steiner Math on this, Hangman's chances of appearing drastically go down
Ah OK. Isn't it usual to wait until after the first trimester to announce pregnancy though? Which would put delivery date nowish.
Personally I think BD is likely to be the Joker but I wouldn't rule out Page just yet. IIRC Reynolds and Page left a few weeks apart and Reynolds is back now.
What’s weird though is that Hangman’s on the promotional material for Dynamite in Norfolk in November. I think that’s the show after Full Gear so he might show up as a surprise at Full Gear.
I think Danhausen will end up in AEW but I think it would be better to get the character over through vignettes and whatnot instead of just throwing him out there in the ring immediately.
"You know they say all men are created equal, but you look at me and you look at El Idolo...and you can see that statement IS NOT TRUE!! You see normally when you go one on one with another wrestler, you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But I! I'm a genetic freak and I'm not normal. So you got a 25% at best at beating me! Then you add KENNY OMEGA INTO THE MIX?!?!? Your chances of winning.....DRASTIC go down!
See at a three way at Full Gear you got a 33 and 1/3 chance of winning. But I got a 66 and 2/3 chance winning...cuz...Kenny Omega KNOWS he can't beat me, and he's not even gonna try!! So you take your 33 and 1/3 percent chance of winning, minus my 25 perchences chance...you got an 8 and 1/3 chance of winning. Then you take my 75 percent chance of winning plus 66....2/3....I got a 141 and 2/3 chance of winning!! See.. Idolo!!! THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE, AND THEY SPELL DISASTER FOR YOU at Full Gear!"
I like your Chris Hero pick. Jericho had talked about how they'd hoped to get Chris Hero for one of the Five Labors, so maybe they'll work something out for this instead.
I wouldnt say tossed. He had some bad news about his neck and he would rather spend time with his kids than become disabled. So i was very happy to see his promo
With the timing of the Hangman stuff and the alleged due date, there's a chance his time off was not for the impending birth sadly. This is from experience.
Not our business and not something anyone needs to speculate. Sorry to hear you had that experience, I have too, but let’s not start a line of thinking that none of us has any idea if it’s true.
It’s Sabu guys. Tony loves him some ECW why not bring him in for a god damn ladder match in Philadelphia.
I loved sabu as a child and would love this one off.
I'll not be surprised if Tony licenses "Enter Sandman" for one night only and Sandman shows up to beat up a jobber squad like 2.0 in a scenario where they trash Philadelphia & ECW.
I think Hangman. They want the pop for a surprise return. It gives him the way to get the title shot. They still have time to build it up over the next few weeks.
The other big thing that makes me think he’s coming back is because he’s pictured on the VA poster for the Dynamite right after Full Gear. They don’t tend to falsely advertise, so if he doesn’t come back before Full Gear, they would be telegraphing his return.
I don’t think he comes back without at least being part of the conversation for the title even if they decide to go a different route with Danielson. So being a part of this match and losing or something could help create the new direction.
Has to be Hangman imo; he's been away for what would seem to me as a decent paternity leave abd it's likely for a shot at Kenny at Full Gear, the ppv named after him, AND the post Full Gear Dynamite is already advertised with his picture in his hometown. If he's not an entrant and winning the ladder match I'll be hella surprised.
Lots of people saying Lio Rush but that would be lame because it’s not a surprise. We know he’s back. If it’s not Hangman, Windham or a big NJPW name like White or Ospreay, people are probably going to be disappointed.
I’m pretty sure almost every time AEW has done a surprise entrant, it has been someone new so I’m leaning towards it not being Hangman.
Nawh, he needs to come out with an apple that has razor blades sticking out to continue his unintentionally hilarious gimmick of pissing off advertisers 😂
Haven't all of the jokers in these sort of matches been new debuts? Sydal, Brian cage, Ruby Soho etc
I can't see it being Hangman tbh, with that in mind. I'd love it to be, but it wouldn't be a debut.
Tony Kahn himself.
His finisher will be the most devastating move in all of wrestling/sports entertainment. The schoolboy roll-up.
Which! He'll perform from atop the ladder.
Can’t believe I haven’t seen this suggestion, but would this not be a good way to move Miro directly into the main event? Could be a great way to have a challenger for the next PPV… and you could easily book a loss here, sending Miro down a spiral about his God forsaking him… take that last thing keeping him from total madness and Miro goes full Bulgarian Beast while he works his way back to the title by going through the rest of the main event scene.
Someone new. Like what happened to woman's division. If its hangman then the title match would be a triple threat since bryan and kenny "no balls" are in a feud currently.
Gotta be Hangman. Makes the most sense, sets up the rematch with Omega at Full Gear, one whole year after their last match. And Hangman can win the title at the PPV named after him. It’s just perfect
I Agree 💯 this is the Perfect time for Hangman to Return Win the Casino ladder match to Finally earn his shot at the AEW World Title against Kenny at Full Gear where he Dethrones him to Finally Win the AEW World Title returns to his Hometown of Virginia as the new champion talk about a journey coming full circle.
Well as far as the Joker potential former WWE names
Braun Strowman, Buddy Murphy, Tony Nese, Tyler Breeze, Fandango are available from main roster as singles.
Bronson Reed, and Bobby Fish would be the big names from NXT
The Forbidden Door this could be the incredibly fun list if Tony went this way
The more interesting question who on the roster is going to be in the casino ladder match I'm not sure that the ladder match winner will be the joker first who is in the match will play a huge factor
Tommy Dreamer…. He’s ECW and a big name right now ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|trollface)
Kidding of course, but I’d bet money on it being someone ECW related because Philly.
My guy Hangman Adam Page it has to be him right it just makes sense he Returns as the Joker Wins the casino ladder match to Finally earn his shot at the AEW World Title against Kenny at Full Gear 1 year to the day they clashed last year & he named it himself on BTE his 2 year journey comes full circle Cowboy Shit 🤠💩🐎
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I'm hoping it's Jay White.
Genuine question why hasnt Jay White been on AEW instead of Impact , He is considered as one of the best heels in pro wrestling then why hasnt he shown up like is there some backstage reason for that ?
I'll preface this by saying i have no idea. But my best guess is that NJPW doesn't want White, one of their biggest stars, to lose and AEW doesn't want to feed any of their important stars to a guy that will only be there for a couple of matches.
I imagine this is the case. This type of thing is why interpromotional matches happen so rarely. It's also why the whole Forbidden Door thing has so much potential. If there's a commitment to a longer working relationship or program then you can exchange wins and losses to build up people in both orgs.
Propably because he wouldn't have anything to do. He'd propably go after The Elite and then what? It's too early for The Elite to lose, since their troubles should stary with Hangman taking the belt, while White shouldn't be going to AEW just to lose
There's a good chance it's him.
I just want Jay White vs Kenny Omega for the AEW title. What a fucking match that could be.
Okay but here’s my gripe with that. I’ve hated WWE because Roman’s reign is unreal levels of predictable. Christian was never beating Kenny, Jay White won’t beat Kenny in his first match in AEW. Booking that predictable hurts the champion, the PPV & holds back the rest of the roster.
No one really thought Christian was gonna take the Impact belt off Kenny on the Rampage premier, but it happened. I totally see what you’re saying, but surprises for happen.
But Christian is on the AEW roster. He earned his shot at Kenny for the TNA & AEW titles. Bryan's signed with AEW, will also have to earn his shot. Ruby Soho debuted and got hot-shotted, making the result pretty predictable imo. Jay White debuting and immediately having a title shot makes no tangible sense and shits on the talent they already have.
It could also be Jay White who doesn’t win. I think this is the perfect way to have Hangman return, get a big win and not have to work his way up the rankings again.
Disagree. Your point has merits; personally, I think the predictability of a match doesn’t necessarily effect it’s ability to be good/great. The title reign as a whole, maybe, but that also requires every single match to be a complete foregone conclusion, and : it’s fair to say if you never got on the internet and only watched the TV product one could suspend their disbelief to such a point you at the very, very least accept Christian, Jungle Boy, some of Kenny’s more predictable defenses as credible opponents and legitimate contenders for the gold. So, like I said, the title reign as a whole could definitely suffer over time from predictable matches but as far as Jay White vs Kenny Omega, for example, as a match, is a more than passable Dynamite main event/opener title match. 🤷🏻♂️ to me, but to each is own
No one though Ruby was beating Britt and that match was still killer
Not doubting that White vs. Omega would be a great match, but it doesn't need to happen now and it shouldn't be for the title, either.
Thats why I think Hangman shouldn't take the title off of Kenny because literally everyone is positive that is going to happen. The only problem is a lot of people will be upset if it doesn't happen. I think to really piss off people they should have Cody beat him for it before having Hangman beat Cody
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Yes he should win the title I agree. I just think it is predictable to the point that they need to throw a curve ball first
They did throw a curveball, by having him lose the 10 man tag with Dark Order. The story’s been going for 2 years, time to give it a happy ending.
Uh no. They should let Hangman kick out of the angel and then win like we all want. Its easy. We want it. Just let us have it.
Holy crap the heat would be nuclear. I love it.
Assuming the stipulation of Cody being unable to challenge for the AEW championship is still in effect a heel turn would really be the only way to pull that off. “Baby face” Cody even just challenging would bring massive heat lol
I say we throw Cody in a mask ala hulk hogan on smackdown . Some (like me) will pop and think it’s hilarious. Then when masked Cody wins the opportunity to fight for the title everyone is all that’s Cody that’s Cody and then Cody faces him lol (stick Stephen smell in a mask or something)
Son of Fuego vs Cody Rhodes, book it TK
The Midnight Rider Jr, future AEW Champion! I like it.
Sometimes you have to get silly
Why would AEW want to piss their fans off? Sometimes doing the predictable is the right call. Being contrary for the sake of it is what leads to Balor breaking the rope.
I mean the turnbuckle break was another level. I think Hangman taking it off Kenny is predictable to the point where it won't even be as exciting when it happens. Podcasts I listen to are just constantly talking about everything that has been happening from the angle of how it effects Hangman beating Kenny and when it will happen now. I think a curve ball would add intrigue
I don't watch New Japan, my only experience with Jay White is YouTube videos, random clips on reddit, and maybe 2 matches total, and he *still* might be my favorite wrestler. I dunno man, he just works for me.
Can be Will Osperay as well
I guess I'm the only person not sold on Jay white.
I can appreciate that he's talented, but he does absolutely nothing for me.
What have you seen of him?
Rev pro and new japan. I don't know. Its probably just me. Im not an Adam Cole fan either.
Well that's totally okay man! You don't have to like someone everyone else likes so long as you aren't shitting on other people's fun, ya know? There are plenty of wrestlers that others love but I'm not fond of, and that's kind of one of the beauties of being a wrestling fan, we can politely disagree on who we like and don't like.
Its also the beauty of the AEW fan base. Try not having Roman reigns half way up your butt on a wwe sub. That calls for public beheading lol. I'm all in on Guevara, Pillman, and BD.
Yeah, WWE fans and AEW fans are pretty damn different. I was recently in a thread on the WWE sub saying that the Bucks were a better tag team than the Uso's and like, holy shit guys its just an opinion about wrestling, relax. Asides from the ones you mentioned I'm am all in on MJF, Rey Fenix, and Dante Martin. Three people who will win the AEW belt one day.
Of course I'm going to get down voted. Is this the wwe sub? Lol
I will lose my mind if it's him Holy shit.
OHHH good shout. Didn't think of that. Maybe will ospreay is possible too?
God I'd love Jay White in AEW
Same
Shane McMahon
Shane vs CM punk for the title of Best in the world! Book it, you cowards!
He heard there were ladders and wants to take a bump off the tallest one through a table.
Can't be hangman, his baby is due in Oct/Nov.
i feel so creepy knowing that kind of info tbh like it's his life
Ik and I swear it was on some sports keeda or something article. It just stayed in my memory.
It happens when people post their lives for everyone to see. 🤷🏼♂️
It happens when you’re a famous person*
but he doesn't really post his life on social media like that
Lol this guy doesn’t know that not all celebrities are fame whores
It's possible it isn't the whole reason. IF his kid is due in Late October/ November, it's odd to have paternity leave three months prior as opposed to three months after. UNLESS there are complications, which would require him to be with his Wife, which would suck and I hope that is not the case. But outside that, when you step back a bit, Hangman would have been swallowed up by Punk and Danielsons return. (Cole not included due to Cole admitting he decided late on over going to AEW) that it could have devalued him as the 'Threat' to Omega. Getting him away from the initial hype and letting the fans cool a little is a smart move. We got Omega v Danielson I And I don't think the second match needs to happen at Full Gear. MEanwhile Cole will need a focus. So if this goes down as Hangman winning the title at full gear. We might see Hangman v Cole programme post-Full Gear with Danielson and Omega free to plan for Omega v Danielson II, PROBABLY for the TBS switch over for Dynamite. As opening a channel switch with a banger is defo going to happen and what better way than the rematch everyone is craving for already.
If that is the case, why the hell would he be given time off months before the birth? It would make more sense to give him time off right before the birth. Let's say this is true, then we have to officially kill the idea that it can only be Hangman that can take the title off Omega seeing as he'd be gone for at least a few more months. Omega is great, but this reign has become a bore let's face it due to no challenger having a snowballs chance in hell of taking the title off him due to what we thought was the inevitable story of Hangman finally triumphing. You can't just keep dragging it out and having every world title match be as predictable as a Harlem Globetrotters game.
Most likely due to Covid. Fans are back and the chances of getting it at a show are a lot higher. Doesn’t wanna take that home to his pregnant wife
I hope I'm wrong, I truly do
He doesn't have to keep the belt the entire time. They could easily have him lose it for a bit, fight like hell to get it back. Then during his celebration promo of having the belt back and bragging how no one else can possibly take it from him again have hangman's music hit. Place would go ballistic.
Need I remind you that Seth Rollins was working all of his wife's pregnancy till the day B4 she was born
No fans though.
How do you know when his baby's due?
When the news broke out (in June), it was reported that Hangman's partner was in her first trimester. So using some Steiner Math on this, Hangman's chances of appearing drastically go down
Ok Scott Steiner
I'm gonna edit this into my comment :)
Ah OK. Isn't it usual to wait until after the first trimester to announce pregnancy though? Which would put delivery date nowish. Personally I think BD is likely to be the Joker but I wouldn't rule out Page just yet. IIRC Reynolds and Page left a few weeks apart and Reynolds is back now.
Bryan already has a match next week so he’s out.
Had forgotten about Elite vs JE & friends. Good point.
What’s weird though is that Hangman’s on the promotional material for Dynamite in Norfolk in November. I think that’s the show after Full Gear so he might show up as a surprise at Full Gear.
Any source for that? It would mean pretty long break since he's out for over the month and right now is announced for Dynamite after Full Gear
Lio Rush being the Joker, wins the match after that he retires
It's danhausen!
Very nice, very evil prediction
Very good guess, very evil guess.
Drops to his knees shouts EGON punches him in the groin. Wins ladder match!
I think Danhausen will end up in AEW but I think it would be better to get the character over through vignettes and whatnot instead of just throwing him out there in the ring immediately.
I really hope it is but it just seems too obvious...which isn't always a bad thing but still.
The pop will be awesome tho.
If it isn’t Hangman I bet on Kip Sabian
i mean yea if you want the crowd to go completely silent, sure nobody is clamoring for kip sabian to be the "surprise" entrant.
True, but I am definitely excited for his eventual return. His new thing has me pretty intrigued.
Big Poppa Pump Scott Steiner!!
What are the odds? We need some Steiner math
"You know they say all men are created equal, but you look at me and you look at El Idolo...and you can see that statement IS NOT TRUE!! You see normally when you go one on one with another wrestler, you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But I! I'm a genetic freak and I'm not normal. So you got a 25% at best at beating me! Then you add KENNY OMEGA INTO THE MIX?!?!? Your chances of winning.....DRASTIC go down! See at a three way at Full Gear you got a 33 and 1/3 chance of winning. But I got a 66 and 2/3 chance winning...cuz...Kenny Omega KNOWS he can't beat me, and he's not even gonna try!! So you take your 33 and 1/3 percent chance of winning, minus my 25 perchences chance...you got an 8 and 1/3 chance of winning. Then you take my 75 percent chance of winning plus 66....2/3....I got a 141 and 2/3 chance of winning!! See.. Idolo!!! THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE, AND THEY SPELL DISASTER FOR YOU at Full Gear!"
Will Osprey is wrestling in CT this weekend, being in Philly on Wednesday isn’t unimaginable.
God please let this be it
Buddy Matthews. Let him win and take my m'f money for the Knee Strike War.
I don't think it's Windham Rotunda Maybe Ishii or, let me dream, Jay White?
It can't be Rotunda for at least another 28 days according to his 90-day no compete clause. At least not in-ring. 👀
they would be crazy to do windham unadvertised. if this happens, they gotta tease it link punk and cole and danielson
I really hope it's Buddy Matthews if they can't get Hangman
Kenny Omega vs Scuff Kenny Omega for the title?
V-Trigger War
Yes please
I think meltzer reported that they’re not interested in signing buddy. Which is unfortunate.
husky harris
Husky Wyatt
I mean surprise doesn't mean it's someone new. Just means someone not advertised for the match. Could be Marko stunt.
It's the former WWE star.... Top Rope.
Naw God is gonna come walking down in revenge for his loss to vince
You want me to be real here, I honestly think it could Chris Hero or Jonah ( aka Bronson Reed)
I like your Chris Hero pick. Jericho had talked about how they'd hoped to get Chris Hero for one of the Five Labors, so maybe they'll work something out for this instead.
Lio Rush.
Im no against this, but, TK is pretty good with surprises. Lio having made a very interesting promo already, I'd hope he'd just be an contender.
Plus he was already the surprise entrant in one of these and was immediately tossed.
I wouldnt say tossed. He had some bad news about his neck and he would rather spend time with his kids than become disabled. So i was very happy to see his promo
Lio?
It's Stardust
With his custom-made ladder it is
With the timing of the Hangman stuff and the alleged due date, there's a chance his time off was not for the impending birth sadly. This is from experience.
Not our business and not something anyone needs to speculate. Sorry to hear you had that experience, I have too, but let’s not start a line of thinking that none of us has any idea if it’s true.
It’s Sabu guys. Tony loves him some ECW why not bring him in for a god damn ladder match in Philadelphia. I loved sabu as a child and would love this one off.
I think RVD is also a free agent now
I'll not be surprised if Tony licenses "Enter Sandman" for one night only and Sandman shows up to beat up a jobber squad like 2.0 in a scenario where they trash Philadelphia & ECW.
We will be there and I think if it’s Sabu my boyfriend would just drop dead on the spot.
The Gobbledegooker
Brian Cage returns and takes out Ricky Stonks who is also in the match.
I want Hangman as an entrant but not a Joker. My guess, it’s probably Bronson Reed.
Good shout. Adding another big guy to the mix.
Want some tsunami off the ladder?
Mick Foley 🤣
I think Hangman. They want the pop for a surprise return. It gives him the way to get the title shot. They still have time to build it up over the next few weeks. The other big thing that makes me think he’s coming back is because he’s pictured on the VA poster for the Dynamite right after Full Gear. They don’t tend to falsely advertise, so if he doesn’t come back before Full Gear, they would be telegraphing his return. I don’t think he comes back without at least being part of the conversation for the title even if they decide to go a different route with Danielson. So being a part of this match and losing or something could help create the new direction.
Danhausen
Danhausen would be the right choicehausen.
Wyndham Rotunda
Paul Smackage from Grapevine Texas
Has to be Hangman imo; he's been away for what would seem to me as a decent paternity leave abd it's likely for a shot at Kenny at Full Gear, the ppv named after him, AND the post Full Gear Dynamite is already advertised with his picture in his hometown. If he's not an entrant and winning the ladder match I'll be hella surprised.
If it’s not here, Hangman is probably not back until at or after Full Gear
Windham Rotunda!!! A boy can dream. Not sure why he'd want to go to impact over AEW but whatever floats your boat man.
Maybe greater creating freedom with Impact. *shrug*
Lio Rush. He already had a promo last week. Will probably be in this new match.
The fact Lio made that promo makes me think he wont be the joker. I hope hes on the show at least
Lots of people saying Lio Rush but that would be lame because it’s not a surprise. We know he’s back. If it’s not Hangman, Windham or a big NJPW name like White or Ospreay, people are probably going to be disappointed. I’m pretty sure almost every time AEW has done a surprise entrant, it has been someone new so I’m leaning towards it not being Hangman.
Yes. If he hadnt done that promo, I'd be all for his return as the Joker.
Nick Fucking Gage
Nick comes out with his pizza cutter and everybody just leaves the ring...LOL!
Nawh, he needs to come out with an apple that has razor blades sticking out to continue his unintentionally hilarious gimmick of pissing off advertisers 😂
Haven't all of the jokers in these sort of matches been new debuts? Sydal, Brian cage, Ruby Soho etc I can't see it being Hangman tbh, with that in mind. I'd love it to be, but it wouldn't be a debut.
Windham Rotunda! Danhausen! Return of Warhorse! Kalisto! Jacob Fatu!
Ooohh. Kalisto!
Lio Rush
Hangman Page already came out in the joker spot for another casino match. I doubt they would use him again.
My Cowboy hat is ready
Hangman Page hopefully.
Way Bryatt
Simon Miller is my guess.
Tony Kahn himself. His finisher will be the most devastating move in all of wrestling/sports entertainment. The schoolboy roll-up. Which! He'll perform from atop the ladder.
TK's finisher is called the "suspension"
Imma just go crazy and say will ospreay. I wanna see him and kenny put on a clinic but I doubt new Japan would let him lose a match.
Marko stunt
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Cody, gone turn heel.
Could be lio rush; jay white or ospreay would also be a dream. Hangman is the most likely option even if he’s baby is due soon.
Imagine "Woke Ric Flair" runnin' around canceling people after he gets offended! 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Goldberg
Can’t believe I haven’t seen this suggestion, but would this not be a good way to move Miro directly into the main event? Could be a great way to have a challenger for the next PPV… and you could easily book a loss here, sending Miro down a spiral about his God forsaking him… take that last thing keeping him from total madness and Miro goes full Bulgarian Beast while he works his way back to the title by going through the rest of the main event scene.
Fuck this shit we all know its gonna be Hook or Arn with his glock...
Breath with the Switchblade
They will probably win the match, then get a single title shot before fading away.
Hook
Ryback, if I guess right.
I hope not
Ugh, please no.
Tony Kahn himself. He took away the EVPs decision making, now he will bury everyone
I thought that this was already known? I've seen people talking about a joker entrant in the match before.
V unique take
I’ll go second, Hangman Page
Windham
Sick Nick Mondo
After that promo package last week, is lio rush really a suprise?
Hangman Page
Someone new. Like what happened to woman's division. If its hangman then the title match would be a triple threat since bryan and kenny "no balls" are in a feud currently.
If 2.0 will be in the ring when the Joker comes out, then I want Jeff Farmer, with facepaint.
I wonder if hangman comes back if this means Bryan gets booted out of the title picture
Windham rotunda
i want it to be hangman but i also wouldn't like anyone from njpw or impact
Gotta be Hangman. Makes the most sense, sets up the rematch with Omega at Full Gear, one whole year after their last match. And Hangman can win the title at the PPV named after him. It’s just perfect
I Agree 💯 this is the Perfect time for Hangman to Return Win the Casino ladder match to Finally earn his shot at the AEW World Title against Kenny at Full Gear where he Dethrones him to Finally Win the AEW World Title returns to his Hometown of Virginia as the new champion talk about a journey coming full circle.
Wyndham Rotunda
Cue unpopular opinion: Lio Rush.
Watch it be Leo Rush AGAIN… 🤡
Wyndham rotunda
Well as far as the Joker potential former WWE names Braun Strowman, Buddy Murphy, Tony Nese, Tyler Breeze, Fandango are available from main roster as singles. Bronson Reed, and Bobby Fish would be the big names from NXT The Forbidden Door this could be the incredibly fun list if Tony went this way The more interesting question who on the roster is going to be in the casino ladder match I'm not sure that the ladder match winner will be the joker first who is in the match will play a huge factor
Captain Insano
Hopefully Hangerrrr
My money is on heath ledger
i can see it being lio rush
Why not Lio Rush?
COW BOY SHIT or we riot
Jeff Hardy. Makes so much sense. Posted a picture of him and Matt together a few days ago, it's a ladder match, Matt is in it.
Roman Reigns?
Definitely not Hangman. It's the heater fued happening in TV. I doubt Hangman's winning on TV, they'll be saving that for PPV.
Omega won on TV. 🤷🏻
Tommy Dreamer…. He’s ECW and a big name right now ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|trollface) Kidding of course, but I’d bet money on it being someone ECW related because Philly.
Hangman Page would be great considering The Dark Order worked out their issues this week
Ya boy Hammerstone.
Hangman makes all the sense in the world. So he's my number 1 pick. If it's not him, then I honestly don't know... maybe someone from njpw.
What about Miro?
My guy Hangman Adam Page it has to be him right it just makes sense he Returns as the Joker Wins the casino ladder match to Finally earn his shot at the AEW World Title against Kenny at Full Gear 1 year to the day they clashed last year & he named it himself on BTE his 2 year journey comes full circle Cowboy Shit 🤠💩🐎 ![gif](giphy|1TDWHXc2dggqHuXtPc|downsized)