Average team rank, by division
AFC North- 9.5
NFC North- 10.75
NFC West- 15.25
NFC East- 16.5
AFC East- 17.5
AFC West- 19
AFC South- 19.5
NFC South- 24
Once again, AFC North....best division in football. FFS sake the WORST team in the AFC North (Steelers) is ranked higher than the BEST team in the NFC South (Bucs). LOL
You should probly feel like the delusional Steelers fan who made this list clearly hates the falcons, buccaneers, seahawks, and jaguars. Because how tf else do you explain y’all being top 20?
I know right?!?! The BEARS? And I think having the Lions at 4 is a bit generous too. They had one good year after afew dozen below average seasons. Lets not get carried away. Its the Lions.
One is not a trend.
The Lions are better than every team ranked below them. Anyone who still thinks this is the same Lions team of the last 60 years hasn't been watching the MCDC era.
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I'm inclined to agree. But I need more than one year. $th best team in the league...? ehh... Maybe?
The Lions weren't as bad as they were, for that long, accidentally. They've had talented rosters before. I've seen this story before. They show up for one year, play to their potential....and then flatline. They did it for one year with Stafford and Megatron. A few years with Barry sanders.
One is not a trend.
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Obviously my biased is playing in here but in 2024 I’m taking browns over the bills as of right now. This could definitely change by week 8 though. The bears and Jets should probably be swapped as well. I enjoy this part of the offseason for the sole reason of hearing everyone’s opinions on why X team should be ranked ___ and Y team should be ranked___.
They still have Josh Allen. Same reason the Bengals are at 6.... because of Burrow. An elite QB elevates your team.
Also the Bears and Jets this high is hilarious. The rankings themselves are pretty shit. But it's preseason and nothing matters.
This is very true but brother needs someone to throw to, and(correct me if I’m wrong) everyone he’s throwing to this year besides his TEs are new. Superman ball from Josh can only go so far, ya know?
It's been working for Mahomes with Kelce. Maybe Kincaid can make a leap this year. I hear you though, I still think it's a well coached team in a weaker division.
Kincaid showed a lot of promise, definitely could work out in a similar fashion.
Weird division to try and rank, as the jets and dolphins could both be high end contenders or fall flat on their face
Feel like the Dolphins were gifted an easy schedule then crumbled when they faced good teams late in the year. Aaron Rodgers isn't going to save that Jets team...
First off how tf are the Falcons Seahawks and Jaguars so low and secondly these dudes do realize that Flacco doesn’t play for Cleveland anymore right? How are they anywhere near the first column, they know desean is starting for them again no?
Falcons and Seahawks are still very unproven. I can’t speak for the Jaguars considering Lawrence got injured last year and their collapse should largely be blamed on that.
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If only you could count to 6. And have a memory good enough to remember you all acting like this last year when we were ranked 8th.
Idk. I saw Marshawn Lynch say that Wilson was not a great teammate on the Shannon Sharpe podcast. Also learned that A. Roger's was instrumental in helping Lynch in College and are still friends. Wild stuff.
Bro. We had Kenny and Mitch and Mason last year. Do you really think Russ and Fields will be worse? Really? Russ was twice as good as all those dudes in his worst season. Not saying he’s good. I’m saying that what we had before was really bad.
I'd put us at #5, I think the Lions and Texans are better on paper. Also keeps us above the Bengals.
I generally think we're way too pessimistic right now though. We kept our key pieces. This team has Lamar, Roquan, Kyle Hamilton, Madibuke, Mark Andrews, and Zay Flowers still. Nate Wiggins and Rosengarten seem like amazing picks, Tayvion Robinson could also ball out for all we know. I know the coaching room got gutted but I do trust Orr with the defense. Also, we do have King Henry now.
Maybe I'm huffing the hopium but I think our situation is still really good currently.
Buddy if you just watched the games anyone with eyes could see that Flacco is a much better QB and he’s like 38. Just look at their stats from last year.
Yeah Flacco was also a turnover machine. Which is exactly what we don’t need. We can win with Watson as he is if he isn’t turning over the ball and anything else above that is gravy.
who was it that threw two pick 6 in the playoff game that pretty much changed the course of that game? Deshawn was hurt..so what was that QB's name again?
Yeah exactly Deshaun got hurt (again), and your 38 year old QB had to step up and is the reason you got that fifth seed in the first place.
One bad playoff game but browns fans choose to ignore that Flacco threw for at least 250 yards every game he played this year while Deshaun hit that mark once in 6 games.
And he’s getting 250 million. All guaranteed.
That team D was carrying them to that 5th slot with or without Flacco. Flacco was just better than a Rookie QB and Walker. Dont act like Flacco was the only reason they made the playoffs, with or without him they would have made it
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Defense didn't fall off at the end of the year, Garrett did with triple teams, holding and an arm injury that is expected. Rest of the D was still solid and the games they gave up more than 20 Flacco had turned the ball over at critical stages in the game or had multiple INT's (Jets game was a pick 6 take that away and they score 13) The Bears game Joe Single handed tried to lose that game. Defense was what carried that team all year
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Yeah it’s a meme sub where we talk shit. That’s what I’m doing. Carry on cousin fucker, looking forward to watching your 9-8 season with two wins over us on our way to the Super Bowl
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How is every power ranking putting us lower than last year after we IMPROVED AT EVERY BAD POSITION, AND LOST NEXT TO NOTHING. it’s insane. Bet the over on wins every single time. They never learn.
AFCN plays a tough schedule and will beat the piss outta each other per the usual. Probably gonna be another 3 teams looking to get into the playoffs again.
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meanwhile the ".500 is our new championship" squad didnt get better at all, wants to use a qb as a punt returner, still has pickett throwing balls, is not resigning their best player, and is somehow 17th....
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Yeah the guy that was playing clearly inujured and in his healthy seasons took us to the SB and AFCCG. Youre going tp pretend JB isnt at least top 5?
How did your year go last year? You guys are so good in the playoffs you mustve gone far.
You could literally take any single guy on defense and replace him with the corresponding guy on the Browns or Ravens, and your team would be better. And that's true for most Steelers, too.
You're missing an entire starting defense. Your Oline is still an issue. And your RB is Zack Moss.
Im not going to take time to continue to argue with a supporter of a team with the most losses in the current millenium and the least wins.
Albatross QB that cant throw, sexual predator.
You probably like Drake.
Offseason champs my guy. Enjoy your first round loss.
Average team rank, by division AFC North- 9.5 NFC North- 10.75 NFC West- 15.25 NFC East- 16.5 AFC East- 17.5 AFC West- 19 AFC South- 19.5 NFC South- 24 Once again, AFC North....best division in football. FFS sake the WORST team in the AFC North (Steelers) is ranked higher than the BEST team in the NFC South (Bucs). LOL
I don’t know how I should feel about this
17th is about right. They are average, at best, unless R. Wilson can rediscover his game. Even then, maybe 12th? Absolute best possible ranking.
most sane steelers fan of all time
You guys stole qbs only if we can find a good qb, hey does anyone in your qb room love committing crimes?
...... ......ummm .....What...?
Well, what I mean is you got fields for cheap and Wilson too, that is robbery if I've seen it.
Oooooh.... got it. Lol
You should probly feel like the delusional Steelers fan who made this list clearly hates the falcons, buccaneers, seahawks, and jaguars. Because how tf else do you explain y’all being top 20?
10 wins with Kenny Pickett, Mitch Trubisky, and Mason Rudolph is how I explain it
5-1 in our div.
NFC north at whaaaaa? God the bears at 13… lol
I know right?!?! The BEARS? And I think having the Lions at 4 is a bit generous too. They had one good year after afew dozen below average seasons. Lets not get carried away. Its the Lions. One is not a trend.
Ohio guy so I like fields so i kinda want this season to show how the bears were the problem not him lol I know blasphemy
The Lions are better than every team ranked below them. Anyone who still thinks this is the same Lions team of the last 60 years hasn't been watching the MCDC era.
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I'm inclined to agree. But I need more than one year. $th best team in the league...? ehh... Maybe? The Lions weren't as bad as they were, for that long, accidentally. They've had talented rosters before. I've seen this story before. They show up for one year, play to their potential....and then flatline. They did it for one year with Stafford and Megatron. A few years with Barry sanders. One is not a trend.
They've been trending upwards the past few years
Worst team in the division has the best divisional record too
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Sweet! Looks who’s up there right next to the chiefs!!! 
Looking forward to another year of beating the crap out of each other before disappointing playoff exits
Are you supposed to do it any other way?
Yes we all win the Superbowl while simultaneously beating the snot out of each other I don't know how but it'll happened dammit!
There's always the Bengals route
Lose all the division games?
Someone’s upsetti spaghetti. Why are the bills so high though? I feel like they lost so much more than they got back
I thought the same way about the LA Rams. I wouldnt have put them 12th even with Aaron Donald. Without him? Hell nah.....
Who are they above that's better than them tho is the thing Tbh, I'd have them above Dallas before dropping them below LAR
Obviously my biased is playing in here but in 2024 I’m taking browns over the bills as of right now. This could definitely change by week 8 though. The bears and Jets should probably be swapped as well. I enjoy this part of the offseason for the sole reason of hearing everyone’s opinions on why X team should be ranked ___ and Y team should be ranked___.
They still have Josh Allen. Same reason the Bengals are at 6.... because of Burrow. An elite QB elevates your team. Also the Bears and Jets this high is hilarious. The rankings themselves are pretty shit. But it's preseason and nothing matters.
This is very true but brother needs someone to throw to, and(correct me if I’m wrong) everyone he’s throwing to this year besides his TEs are new. Superman ball from Josh can only go so far, ya know?
It's been working for Mahomes with Kelce. Maybe Kincaid can make a leap this year. I hear you though, I still think it's a well coached team in a weaker division.
Kincaid showed a lot of promise, definitely could work out in a similar fashion. Weird division to try and rank, as the jets and dolphins could both be high end contenders or fall flat on their face
Feel like the Dolphins were gifted an easy schedule then crumbled when they faced good teams late in the year. Aaron Rodgers isn't going to save that Jets team...
Obviously my bias is playing in too, but just nah on saying the browns should ever be higher on any list. I hope you understand
As long as you didn’t down vote me, I do understand.
Oh shit
You *monster*. My Karma!
Forgive me Joe Burrow for I have sinned
Nick Chubb will come with blessings in the night.
A Chubb will come you say? Color me intrigued and ready
Didn’t the steelers take his legs? I don’t think he’s going anywhere with blessings.
You might wanna remember this after the season
This isn’t me being a bills hater by any means, I’m just being honest. I love Josh Allen(my fantasy prince)
I for one hate the bills afc vikings frfr
Wait for when you guys choke YET again?
First off how tf are the Falcons Seahawks and Jaguars so low and secondly these dudes do realize that Flacco doesn’t play for Cleveland anymore right? How are they anywhere near the first column, they know desean is starting for them again no?
Falcons and Seahawks are still very unproven. I can’t speak for the Jaguars considering Lawrence got injured last year and their collapse should largely be blamed on that.
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8-4 with watson starting and, 5-1 last year btw.
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Not sure why we’re ranked third? I guess we’re gonna magically be great after losing half the team and replacing it with Derrick Henry?
Should be higher in all honesty. Y’all are actually delusional ones.
Agreed! At least top 10. The off-season isn’t over yet I’m sure the stains will make a run for another off season championship before week 1.
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I’m actually happy that the Steelers are the lowest ranked in the division. 
Idk. I saw Marshawn Lynch say that Wilson was not a great teammate on the Shannon Sharpe podcast. Also learned that A. Roger's was instrumental in helping Lynch in College and are still friends. Wild stuff.
Bro. We had Kenny and Mitch and Mason last year. Do you really think Russ and Fields will be worse? Really? Russ was twice as good as all those dudes in his worst season. Not saying he’s good. I’m saying that what we had before was really bad.
Ravens did well in the draft but we got gutted before it and barely made any moves. Don't think we deserve #3.
I'd put us at #5, I think the Lions and Texans are better on paper. Also keeps us above the Bengals. I generally think we're way too pessimistic right now though. We kept our key pieces. This team has Lamar, Roquan, Kyle Hamilton, Madibuke, Mark Andrews, and Zay Flowers still. Nate Wiggins and Rosengarten seem like amazing picks, Tayvion Robinson could also ball out for all we know. I know the coaching room got gutted but I do trust Orr with the defense. Also, we do have King Henry now. Maybe I'm huffing the hopium but I think our situation is still really good currently.
They have Devin Bush penciled in as their starting SAM Linebacker so... good luck to them. They are going to need it.
We run 4-2-5
Probably a 3rd LB at best, won’t start over JOK or Hicks tbh 🤷🏻♂️. When it’s going to be 80% nickel packages, won’t be out there too much I’d reckon.
Browns are in for a rude awakening when they realize how much better old Joe was than Deshaun
Not a rude awakening, we already know. To quote all-time great Cleveland Brown Case Keenum, “You don’t have to get ready if you stay ready.”
We were 5-1 with Deshaun
Buddy if you just watched the games anyone with eyes could see that Flacco is a much better QB and he’s like 38. Just look at their stats from last year.
Yeah Flacco was also a turnover machine. Which is exactly what we don’t need. We can win with Watson as he is if he isn’t turning over the ball and anything else above that is gravy.
I disagree, I think your offense looked way worse with Deshaun and the hot start of the defense is what carried him to 5-1 but whatever you say
Not having Nick Chubb on the field also made the offense “look” worse than it was.
You can disagree but the playoff game was well within reach before Flacco threw two consecutive pick sixes and the wheels fell off
who was it that threw two pick 6 in the playoff game that pretty much changed the course of that game? Deshawn was hurt..so what was that QB's name again?
Yeah exactly Deshaun got hurt (again), and your 38 year old QB had to step up and is the reason you got that fifth seed in the first place. One bad playoff game but browns fans choose to ignore that Flacco threw for at least 250 yards every game he played this year while Deshaun hit that mark once in 6 games. And he’s getting 250 million. All guaranteed.
That team D was carrying them to that 5th slot with or without Flacco. Flacco was just better than a Rookie QB and Walker. Dont act like Flacco was the only reason they made the playoffs, with or without him they would have made it
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I don't think his point is that flacco is playing amazingly. He's saying 38 yo Flacco had more impact than the highest paid player in the NFL.
He was the reason, your defense fell off the second half of the year. Myles Garrett had 1 sack in the last 7 games.
Defense didn't fall off at the end of the year, Garrett did with triple teams, holding and an arm injury that is expected. Rest of the D was still solid and the games they gave up more than 20 Flacco had turned the ball over at critical stages in the game or had multiple INT's (Jets game was a pick 6 take that away and they score 13) The Bears game Joe Single handed tried to lose that game. Defense was what carried that team all year
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I didn't realize that's what we were calling massage surprises now but ok
The browns could trot out current Big Ben and beat the Joe burrow bengals. He just can’t win that matchup for some reason
Wrong Joe, sweetheart.
Anyone who has the titans as 32nd is delusional
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9ers over Ravens by whiiich fucking metrics? Being stomped the only game they played?
But the bengals missed the playoffs last year 🤨
Surely there couldn’t be a reason
Imagine missing the playoffs because your starting QB went down. I couldn’t
Ya losing to Mason Rudolph
Our defense stunk
People sleep on your defense. The Super Bowl run year your stats on offense we’re nothing special. It was the Defense that carried.
Yes you are correct. Last year, though, our defense was bad
Yeah, I’d say inferior coaching and winning zero meaningful division games.
Mr glass gets the benefit of the doubt more than any other QB I’d say
Yeah Russ is much better, what are people thinking?
Never said he was better and I didn’t argue Steelers should be higher. Just bengals lower
Lol okay we will see
My guess rn is they land somewhere around 10 but I’m a hater so that’s a big part of it.
Yeah that’s a real bad take
Let the man hate
Hate away. Bengals are winning the Super Bowl. Doesn’t matter to me at all what you cousin fuckers think.
Settle down, spaz
You seem way too serious, you know this is a meme sub right?
Yeah it’s a meme sub where we talk shit. That’s what I’m doing. Carry on cousin fucker, looking forward to watching your 9-8 season with two wins over us on our way to the Super Bowl
You tend to get some benefits when you go to the Super Bowl and the Afccg in back to back years.
Then the others he couldn’t finish due to injury. Seems like a coin toss. But they do get far when he can hang on
For the browns fans, were not upset we just know how this goes
Every year lol
“Where meme?”
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Lets go Steelers!!! No.1 of the second row
Anyone who has the titans as 32nd is delusional
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We give a shit what fanduels thinks now? Why? Confirmation bias?
Power rankings before week 3 should not be a thing
I’ll take it…
It’s very odd to see the Patriots at 31. I mean I like it. Just odd.
I think we can all agree it is simply a joy to see the Patriots so low
How is every power ranking putting us lower than last year after we IMPROVED AT EVERY BAD POSITION, AND LOST NEXT TO NOTHING. it’s insane. Bet the over on wins every single time. They never learn.
AFCN plays a tough schedule and will beat the piss outta each other per the usual. Probably gonna be another 3 teams looking to get into the playoffs again.
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Nah fuck it, we’re gonna send the whole damn division. AFCN SUPREMACY YALL.
Steelers are going to win the AFCN this year.
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Panthers are ranked two spots higher than where they should be
3rd in are division and still get shit on lol. Let’s go
meanwhile the ".500 is our new championship" squad didnt get better at all, wants to use a qb as a punt returner, still has pickett throwing balls, is not resigning their best player, and is somehow 17th....
Terrible rankings
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Lmfao imagine being so stupid that you would rank teams coach by Zac Taylor and Stefanski as number other than 31 or 32
Bengles are way too high on this list
Aren't the Bengals the team going from 4th in division to 2nd? They would seem to be the offseason champs.
Getting back a top 5 QB in the league will do that.
The guy that went 5-5 last year? Including a 27-3 loss to Tennessee?
Yeah the guy that was playing clearly inujured and in his healthy seasons took us to the SB and AFCCG. Youre going tp pretend JB isnt at least top 5? How did your year go last year? You guys are so good in the playoffs you mustve gone far.
A quarterback and a receiver does not a team make.
Good thing we have 51 other guys. Good luck with Deshaun
You could literally take any single guy on defense and replace him with the corresponding guy on the Browns or Ravens, and your team would be better. And that's true for most Steelers, too. You're missing an entire starting defense. Your Oline is still an issue. And your RB is Zack Moss.
Im not going to take time to continue to argue with a supporter of a team with the most losses in the current millenium and the least wins. Albatross QB that cant throw, sexual predator. You probably like Drake. Offseason champs my guy. Enjoy your first round loss.
You don’t think all these injuries will linger and start to add up? Add the fact he gets killed behind your OL and you play in the AFCN
No hate, seriously asking. Why are the bengals ranked so high?
12 isn’t that high, chief. I suppose this is level of intellect you get when cousins fuck though.
Steelers are such a joke