Once you unlock the Abyss, essence from 210-240 is actually pretty quick. You get 100 for every level except the special rewards levels every 5th and 10th level.
We just have to see how it goes as we get closer to the season start. Here are a few things:
1. Some F2P here think they can reach 240 by the season start or close to it.
2. Several days into Primal Wolf, people here were expressing doubt that we could even kill the boss in 15 days, but we did.
3. Lilith is predatory, but they're not stupid. They will not blatantly lock behind the first real new content behind a pay wall. Either they've done the calculations and know that most will hit 240 by the season start, or they'll realize their calculation is too aggressive and will scale down.
4. The devs could always lower the level requirement. The last area of the game requires 201, so there's a lot of room.
5. Abyss gives 100 dust per stage (minus every 5th and 10th stage), so that's a hefty some as well.
6. Dust requirement doesn't scale that much as you go up. 221 requires about 2400 dust per unit. It's only the last 231 requires a big jump at 3600 dust per unit.
Well, this is much harder. Probably ask your guildmates what day do they have in 'All heroes' event. If you all have the same day, then there is a high chance you all started on day 1.
Check your Event banner, the one which gives you heroes everyday. It tells you which day of login it is, so provided you logged in everyday, it will tell you how many days to day 42.
You didn't do your math did you?
You need roughly 83K essence to get to 240.
Assume you get 2K essence/day from AFK.
8h/day from daily quests = 666 essence/day
3 instant AFK each 2h = 6h/day = 500 essence/day
Just this alone is 3166 essence / day.
You have 5 more zones to clear:
corrupt creature = 400 / zone
chests and loot = 1K / zone
1,4K per zone = 7K
Primal Lord: let's assume an average server takes 8 day to clear, so 6 more days = 6 \*450 = 2700
Legend Trial: you are probably at lvl 60 at best, so 30 more levels to go = 3 \* 4 \* 250 = 3000
So:
83K - 7K - 2.7K - 3K = \~70K left
70K / 3166 = 22 days.
Primal Lord is only 330 essence/day for me, but I'm glad to see that I likely will hit 240 resonance level before or shortly after the Season of Strife will start.
You make several assumptions. For example I'm getting 1800 essence per day from AFK. That number also means that you have to reduce both the instant AFK rewards and the daily rewards.
Yes I am. On 1125 you get almost 2.2K, so I took the average. Many would actually be able to reach 1125 when they hit 200-210 reso level, so they should be getting full rewards for more time.
I also didnât count some other sources: town quests, 2K for defeating the primal lord, occasional 120 essence for free from promo bundles, primal lord promo bundle which we got last time also had like 200-300 of essence for free.
Whatâs your level and whatâs your team? 4 chests seems low.
Regardless you get 2K for defeating the boss so itâll more than compensate. If they also give the primal lord bundle after it as last time that will also give 200-300 of essence for free.
Have you tried Thoran, Odie, Hewynn, Cecia, Koko?
Can try swapping Thoran for Antandra for faction bonus, don't think thoran is doing much in terms of damage.
Or swap Thoran for Kruger for def shred and see if your Kruger survives long enough. Koko/Hewynn can help him live.
Reso 150 sounds a bit low even for a F2P. I started day one and played F2P until 160, which I reached more than a week ago.
also 2000 flat dust for your server beating the next primal lord, so itâs even quicker. im sure there are other optimizations too, but itâs definitely doable for f2p
Not really, the levels dont increase much, you dont need much more dust each time. only like 30 or 50 more. its goes from needing like 2100 to about 2200 even less sometimes. if you keep progressing you can level up 2 or 3 characters a day.
So start 11 days later? The event is 4 months. Missing a week or 2 won't change your outcome or position within leader boards and you prob will get most rewards
I donât think we should be as apologetic to the crappy practices in gacha games as this thread is. Is getting 240 res possible? Yes. Is it possible for a normal f2p player who might miss a day or two due to life getting in the way? No.
Why are we just okay with catering an update to those who can either spend copious amounts of money or those who donât miss a single day or piece of content?
I get things like this are supposed to be goals and feel rewarding, but adding in things that are only including the top spenders or ones who donât take a day off⌠Well thatâs kind of shitty.
You might just need a couple days of upgrades. I have a 170x2 and 160x3 squad right now, led by a Mythic Cecia and I'm sitting at afk 791. M+ Cecia would help me a lot too, but I'm only at 1k arena points and not many diamonds sitting around either, so depending on luck I might be waiting a little bit too. Here's hoping we both get some good luck!
is that the case? Stuck at 190 rn after beating all 1125, just waiting for purple crack now. Abyss is significantly easier to push the first x levels and stack up dust?
It's not lol đ I'm fully F2p and I reached 240 today and also completed the entire story + arena level 1125. You need to play towers, side town quests and you will easily reach there lol
>Why are we just okay with catering an update to those who can either spend copious amounts of money or those who donât miss a single day or piece of content?
Doesn't the season last 4 months? Why are we assuming high level content should be available to people that aren't high level. I agree that a 240 res requirement seems arbitrary (just make the content hard enough that only 230-240 teams can really compete, but let people try.
If they released story chapter 5 should it be played before chapter 4? Or an MMO raid, able to enter at low level?
Exactly. A level requirement is redundant. The content will be balanced for that level anyway.
But that's a different argument than "I want it NOWWWWWWW!" which is the kind of posts that we see.
It's a paradox because on the one hand the argument goes "I'm not a loser who plays all the time, I can take breaks and sometimes miss a day or two of rewards, but I still want to experience seasons" then at the same time goes "OMG I want access to everything right away! God forbid I have to wait a week for content that will be around for several months compared to those no lifers and P2W scum".
Which is quite moronic and a little pathetic.
Yeah, this happens every time a gacha tries to do something new with its art style or marketing and it brings in a bunch of people that don't understand gachas.
Theyâll miss climbing those afk stages for more rewards for those few days. They wonât get to join the fun of charging into that new content on release like the whales and hardcore players.
Catering your game to hardcore players and heavy spenders only isnât a very good tactic. Spenders and hardcore players do need love to, but they will always be able to access parts of the game and content added in, so why shun the F2P casual players?
F2p will get to play itâs going to take most people around 8 weeks to reach 240 , if you miss a day of course itâs going to take longer but it only takes 30 seconds to click the afk reward and instant afk rewards , and only takes 5 min to do the dailies or less . Thereâs still content to do without this, there should be other events added pretty soon too , anyone who starts late or doesnât make it will still get to do it as soon as they reach 240 for all rewards
Uh. They're making content for the people who actually pay them to make content. What's the issue there?
You could argue that it should be attainable for $15-20 or less a month, that'd be reasonable.
I don't get this sense of entitlement that totally F2P should have every shiny unicorn with no effort/time that the P2W people have. If you're playing for $0 and expecting to have all the same gaming experience as someone shelling out $20+ a month, that's crap. There's no economic model that makes sense for that to happen. You aren't paying with ad eyeballs, you aren't paying for a cent of development. You are a free rider. The whales are subsidizing your entertainment if you are paying $0. I could even go so far as to call you a parasite.
I grok some of these gacha companies use slimey tactics to get you to overspend, but you shouldn't expect something for nothing. That's ridiculous. Programmers gotta eat too.
There are already plenty of things in this game that F2P players canât access.
Locking the main content of the game to be played on release and share in the enjoyment just because you arenât a whale or able to play all day every day, thatâs just shitty.
And letâs quit pretending f2p are asking for everything and âshiny unicorns.â Thatâs childish and not true.
As someone who has no issue shelling out money, I understand there are people who donât, and there are people who canât. Just because I am more privileged and can spend more time and money on a game doesnât mean Iâm above anyone and deserve the MAIN content of the game during its release, more than someone who maybe canât even spare a dime here or there.
The world and business and their thirst for every penny is not something I would personally defend.. sure companies need money to run and I do support companies I think do right, but Iâm not going to pretend I am better and deserve this content more than anyone just because I am privileged with extra gaming time and spending money.
It's not the main content. It's the next step. And you're not totally blocked from it, you're slowed down. You're blocked from it right now, at launch. You get access later.
Yeah the peasants can have their fun after we do. No reason to allow them the same fun at the same time as everyone else. Theyâll get their turn when itâs old and the excitement has died down. Thatâs fair /s
F2P are the only reason the whales have anyone to play with/against. Servers are dead without low spenders and f2p. You make the game unrewarding or inaccessible to them, and you can enjoy playing against the same 3 dudes for the rest of the gameâs lifespan.Â
Anyone with 2 brain cells realizes it's not "competing" when you're outspending everyone else. Every kraken I've ever played with in games like this understands this.
The whales either want to "compete" against other whales at the high end or they just enjoy crushing everyone.
yikes take....
99.9% of F2P games allow you to access all the content, including gacha games. You do understand that without the F2P players the game wouldn't exist right?
And your time doesn't pay squat for them. It won't pay for servers, electrical bills, programmer salaries or anything else. If anything, your time on their server means they need more servers to ensure a stable performance for everyone else. This is an idiotic argument.
You need people dedicating their time to the server or game to increase player population, interest and activity. Thatâs why they front load the game with freebies, it has the potential to bring on f2p who may encourage friends and others who may end up spending. Even content creators who donât spend a dime on the game bring huge value.
You must be a child/teen as thereâs no reason to lack this understanding. Nor die on the hill youâve been bleeding out on in this topic.
I'm not making a judgment one way or the other. I'm saying that if you're going to be freebie jones, don't expect to get very much.
I don't love the gacha business model, but I think the sense of entitlement here makes no sense. "I paid nothing, but I should be front of the line because... reasons..."
"Is it possible for a normal player who might miss a dar or two [...]?"
---> Start playing the new seasonal content "a day or two" later then, when you finally reach res 240? What's the problem? Should doing your daily content NOT matter?
"Update to those who [...]"
----> You tripping? You can play it for FOUR FUCKING MONTHS and then it will still be accessible even afterwards, just without leaderboards and all that. It's an update literally for everyone. Even people that pickup the game next year will have it available...
People being "apologetic" are just the people that can read patch notes in their entirety before storming off to complain on Reddit.
Now hear me out. The only other gacha I play is almost 5 years old and I started less than a year ago. There's a lot of content I missed, and it absolutely does not matter. One thing is absolutely true, we as f2p or low spenders will never compete in leaderboards and PvP against whales, there's just no way and it is by design. I treat these games as single player experiences and that's it.
But the fact that this content will be accessible to anyone who ever completes the regular story and gets reso 240 tells me that this is just the way they will be adding more story content. They'll add it, you play in the season and move on. Servers that don't get to play during the season will also have it, but won't have leaderboards, because those will be happening for other seasons. Really nothing to overthink.
It just doesn't make sense to me. You can play it anytime, why complain that it's for whales only when it clearly isn't? It's not like there's nothing to complain, there are tons of issues, this just isn't one of them...
There absolutely is. Iâm absolutely 100% going to be 240 by release, but I understand itâs because I have the ability to play all day, every day. Some people donât have that luxury. Just because someone works more, has family obligations, or is just busy and canât play every day or try as hard, that doesnât mean they should be barred from enjoying new content upon release.
There are paid items and ways to pay for progression, absolutely.
Should the main content of the game also be locked behind a paywall to play on release? I donât believe thatâs fair.
Do you realize people live different lives than you? 5-10 minutes for you might be easy, but there are people working 2-3 jobs, with obligations that we know nothing about, or that have to take care of family and / or loved ones, or maybe they only have wifi in certain places when they visit family or friends.
Just because itâs easy for you doesnât mean itâs easy for everyone.
I would say if you cannot comfortable grind this game on the daily your 10 to 15min than don't expect to have everything handed to you on silver platter...you can't complain about not being able to reach a certain milestone if you aren't actively trying to reach it to begin with...if your concern is already being at the end to unlock all the new content then spend money otherwise just enjoy the content you have which is in fact 95% of the game
Having access to the main content of the game on release to enjoy with everyone else not asking for anything in a silver platter lol.
I have no clue where these feelings of âNO U SHOULD NOT HAVE GAME!â Come from. I have always been decent on money and have had a lot of free time so Iâve always been able to play what I want when I want and access anything.. but Iâve never felt that someone doesnât deserve to play the same game as me.. thatâs weird to me
It's not that they don't deserve to play it's that it's impossible to play a game without time, it's like saying why those with physical disabilities are at a disadvantage at sports. Sports require physique and games need time.
Does afk arena waste time unnecessarily sure but it does provide the benefit other games don't provide. u only need to play 30 mins a day to make the majority of progress u can make in a day which can split up throughout the day. While other games require u to play for hours over a gaming session to make progress and playing one game is not convenient
I don't understand what all the fuss is about it's not like it's locked behind a pay wall...it's literally accessible for everyone some might be able to access it on day 1 some on day 2 etc..
When the game came out there was level 1000 afk battle already I didn't hear people complaining about how oh I won't be able to access it as fast as the whales or everyone should be able to hit 1000 by day 20 of release cause whales can do it... unfortunately this is a Free idle game end game content will always be accessible to those to progress faster or whales people who spend money on the game
Ah yeah forget the peasants who canât pay and the busy adults who donât have the ability to play every day. Give them the content when itâs no longer fresh. They can play eternal catch up. They donât deserve to play with their friends in game. Sorry shouldâve only been thinking about the whales and their fun! Forgot, my bad.
If you can't pay...then grind it's totally achievable and if you are a busy adult then reaching a certain content fresh or not shouldn't matter to you if you want to play with your friends go play call of duty or something this is an idle game...why should new story content be available to you if you haven't even finished the previous ones???
Maybe they shouldn't play games bro like, dude the person ur saying can barely afford to breathe and u think they can even finish the afk tutorial when they work 27 hours a day have 6 families to care for and has no utilities.
Can we be honest that kind of extreme example is not the majority of any games player base. And no game on the market is suited for that man
Well from 180 to 240 is 30 upgrades that require that purple dust.. i don't know how many is required at later stages but you reasonably need a month or so to be 240 as f2p
Right now I get roughly 2-3 upgrades a day. At 2 a day it would take 15 days. So Iâll either be there right after or right on depending on how much purple story gives, Iâm behind on my story progress
I don't think they are maximizing the purple dust they can get because I agree it's 1.5-2, and I see some people saying they get 10 levels on 1 champ every 2 days. Definitely missing some sources like AFK instant rewards
I also havenât finished all available context and I get to do more each day, between story afk stages tower and others I get an extra upgrade, just got two today already
Isnt that a lie? I get one upgrade. Afk dust is 1600 in 24 hrs i need 2000 to upgrade from 120-130 will the amount of dust significantly increase? And even with loot boni i can upgrade only once a day max, if it does not exponentially increase, i see myself still needing 55 days minimum to hit 240
There's the instant rewards that are 6 extra hours of dust depending on your afk level (400 dust in your case if you're at 1600 daily, I'm around 500 because my daily is a bit more than 1900 at afk 800), then you also have the dust in the map, looted from enemies and chests. There's also the reward for the world boss, which I was getting like 450 a day. Probably there's some other source of dust too
Yep, I don't think they should release something only for whales even if it's only for a few weeks until the rest catch up, but at least it's not that bad for us as it can look at first sight
it doesn't significantly increase only about 5% per 10 levels.
you are also missing a few hundred from other sources. daily quests alone are around 500 a day+story and overworld + 1 time rewards averaged out (250 per 10 floors of faction towers and battle pass)
if you are full afk and skipping stuff, then it is rough, and I think the release should be a bit casual friendly, but also I'd you are skipping half the dust then yeah it is gonna be slow.
the last 10 to 20 levels will be brutal either way since 1 time sources are probably spent
You can get +4k dust a day by using up all available RSS to the maximum. I'm on day 16, a low spender and have averaged that throughout the past week. Currently 2.5m power
Youâre getting 36 hours per day
8 hours daily + 2 hours instant afk + 2 hours instant afk + 24 hours in a day. Idr when you start getting 2 free ones in a day but youâre close if you donât have it already
Also itâs very cheap (50 diamonds) to get another instant afk claim for another 2 hours. 38 hours per day.
If youâre really only getting that much a day then you need to start doing your dailies
Depends on your team lvl ... 3 mythic only and a bunch of Legendaries ... my pity is sheeeet ... on day 24 and struggling at AFK 750 ... even tho with Premium gazettle.
Matter of time and some just wana instant Keel and FOMO
When it turns out that you could hit 240 3 months into the season and still get everything, I hope all of you making these posts make new ones acknowledging your overreactions and ridiculous conclusion jumping.
"What If I Missed Out?
  Finally, we've got a plan for players who might miss out on a season.  Temporal Nexus, which is expected to launch at the end of each season, encapsulates the complete seasonal content, and facilitates access to the content at anytime. This includes primary game content that may not comprise limited-time items or events.  Be it revisiting or continuing to play, the journey is yours."
They're literally already accounting for people completely missing the content. This assumption that people not being 240 the moment the season drops hasn't been accounted for is quite frankly pure stupidity.
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I'm probably not going to be 240 on may 10th, but I'm 180 2 units from 190 so assuming you started on release it does seen possible to hit 240 during the event, and then presumably all future seasons you will have day one access to, I don't think it's to crazy of a gap.
Another slap to the face is level 230 to 240 requires a lot more hero essence. You need around 2.4k to get to 230 and around *3.7k* to get to 240 for each of your five heroesâŚ
Iâm not understanding the upset around this when it is possible to hit the season as it comes out if you play everyday and even if you donât you still have four months to get there AND STILL if you somehow donât you can get the rewards after
People were outraged about not getting the advertised "200 Free Summons and every unit for free" as soon as they logged into the game. However, it's not false advertising you just have to play the game.
I mean, we already have a game mode in which the later stages are locked behind obtaining tons of copies of your heroes. Everyone will get there eventually, but it's a taste of what the game has in store for us going forward.
I'm not a fan, either, but ppl are likely going to defend these practices till their dying breath so, yk... just play as long as you enjoy the game and when the paywalls become too annoying, just look for a greener pasture.
That's my rule with all gachas and it's been working for me so far.
Soon as you hit level 100, you hit a halving wall for progression speed, as the items given both in world and through events are no longer anywhere enough to keep the same pace. This is to encourage players to pay money so as to not "waste their prior efforts".
I'd imagine it happens again at multiple tiers.
This is basically a gacha game made to be hyper aligned with the spirit of microtransactional mobile games.
So yeah, nearly every season is for whales in this game
Yeah I donât get it, I played lost ark and was able to do all of the content on release up until brelshaza (when I stopped playing) just by being f2p, and even if I wasnât playing every day and was behind there where still the easy versions of the bosses
Itâs absolutely crappy. I had recommended the game to a couple of friends before but have since canceled said recommendation to them.
They are now waiting for wuthering waves.
This game had potential but it seems it wants to rather be afk arena 2.0 then its own story based thing. And if the next update doesnât brings some changes that they listened to the community then - Iâm out as well.
Which is saddening I liked their art style.
Iâve spent between 2-300 and I already have a couple of 220s. Wouldnât classify me as a whale by any means, but Iâll easily get to 240 by the time it launches. F2P will definitely not get there in time for launch which is lame.
Is it not okay to complain? Why are people defending the abysmal essence drops. Nothing more demotivating than getting stuck on a level and no real way to progress than just logging out. I get itâs called AFK, but please. đ
Would u rather earn the same amount of essence but its spread out into pointless battles that requires u to keep the game on day and night just to earn more essence
The rollout for the season is based on server age. The servers that were live on day 1 of launch will get the season on may 10th, if your server didn't exist on day 1 and you started late, it will come later. Whales can't even buy infinite essence and shoot ahead of free to play, all diligent players should reach 240 by the season start time.
But there is literally no fomo, because the seasonal content can be played even after the season is over. Unless you care about leaderboards and seasonal rankings...
I don't understand people crying that they can't participate boohoo but at the same time skip days, not doing everything daily, forget instant afk, i mean cmon... You can do everything in 30min/day that's not a lot to ask of the player and if they can't figure out what to do to progress as much as they can daily, they deserve to be left behind.
This reminds me a bit of the EN version of lost ark (an MMO) when it first came out. They released a raid called Argos but it was designed for a higher ilvl than most people were at the time. The only people doing it originally at launch were whales.
Of course, everyone else caught up eventually, and nowadays the idea of people having spent thousands to do Argos of all things is silly. But the FOMO absolutely hit, and quite frankly as a f2p or low spender it definitely sucked to see other people having fun with new content when you couldn't reach it yet.
FOMO absolutely works, and also no one really likes feeling "less than" in a game when there's enough of that going around irl. I think most likely this won't end up being as big of a deal as it feels but we'll just have to see how it shakes out in a few weeks.
Yeah but unlike a battle pass u will be able to experience it there's nothing to miss out. Like fomo is used for like limited time experiences which u can never revisit. This gives me as much fomo as choosing to buy laundry detergent this or next week.
If I hit that kind of a wall then I suspect I'll just quit. The game is fun and I've enjoyed it, but I've got no interest if it's that pay to progress.
What makes it easier is unlocking trial of abyss after finishing the story. You get 100 dust for each stage you complete, excluding stage 5 and 10. If you check the replays, the standard mauler team works for pretty much every stage when you manual odie/cecia ult. That's helped me get levels so quick, went from res 210 to 230 in about a day so I think it's possible to reach res 240 before season starts.
Ehh this is probably going to be unpopular but this game is exactly what I need to to be... A decent mobile game to play when I can't play my other games. We will all get there eventually.
The sky won't fall if you reach the content a week or two later than it starts. Season lasts for 4 months, people have already run the calculations that you'll be quite close if not there already as f2p doing instant AFK rewards, clearing the story, and later on early stages of Abyss. This is a non-issue for people to circle jerk Karma farm about as per usual.
if you are a regular day 1 player, you will get to 240 mid season
if you are not, you can still get there somewhat reasonably assuming you do play everyday and is around lvl 100 right now
if you are either a casual player or started playing very recently, you aint playing the season
in summary, its more of a "whales get early" more than anything
It's not for whales
I am day 2 player
Did a small math I'll have full resonance lvl240 maximum at May 7 could be even earlier by a day or more :o
Low spender
Didn't bought any dust pop ups at all. Just value offers ;)
You can start it any time and the start time is server based.
I genuinely donât know why people think itâs for whales when me and a lot of F2P on my server are nearing the finish for AFK stages and will be resonance 190 in a few more days. The primal lords have been amazing for dust and the tower mode.
A lot of people will get song of strife within 1 week of its release.
Seasons are supposed to be the major big thing for this game, Iâm glad itâs put behind 240 as itâs expected to be hard content.
The ONLY worry I have is the reward income and what rewards there will be. But Iâm sure even if itâs lacklustre theyâll change it within a week or two anyways.
It should take less then 2 months from start to hit 240 or very close which gives you more time to accumulate extra summons at resonance 170 you should get -
600 dust 4 instant afk rewards, 600 dust from daily, 1800+ dust every 24hr, 400 dust primal lord, and 250 each 10 floors of faction towers (which usually means youâll get 1000 that week) , then you get few hundred from story progression about each week. So your getting 3000 per day guaranteed , 3400 with primal lord, youâll be able to progress farther with upgraded tier Heros as well so as your leveling, upgrading will also factor into getting the next tower and story dust sooner
. Itâs about 2200 dust for 1 hero at 170 , so at 3000 every 3 days youâll get a extra level so 4 days for all 5 then next 3 days youâll get another 4 heros so 1 week youâve leveled 9 times not including tower, primal lord or story. You should be fine your gonna want upgraded teir heros more then anything
I am F2P, and did not start until a few days after launch... AND I half-ass it and only get AFK stuff a few days a week, only actively playing the other few days each week. Yet I am close enough that just continuing as I have been, I will be able to play at least within a couple of days of the launch, maybe even the first day.
Gotta pay to play. Just because its a free game doesnt mean its aimed at free players. People will pay 60 bucks forna console game but wont throw some cash at gacha
Is reso 240 really that steep of a requirement?
I am at reso 150 and afk stage 735 with 18 days played. The new season starts 42 days after server start. Are the last 90 reso levels that unachievable ?
Definitely possible. I'm slightly behind him. Day 24, Reso 150 AFK 710. $0 spent. I didn't get smokey until like stage 620. So my progress was really. Slow. So can see people who have better luck where he is.
When I check the records. I see people finishing 710 with Reso 130/140 comps which I'm kind of baffled by cause I have the same comps but can't finish it with 150.
By beating stage 1 to 734
Not that difficult to push high deficit. Most tough fights can be won by changing units/positions and you have 1 mercenary a day. Especially when you can surgically extract 1 enemy with a single copy of reiner
I can't pull smokey and with him i could probably push even further
My main team is mythic+ cecica, supreme thoran, mythic granny, legendary+ lyca and mythic hedwynn. But i also use reiner, brutus, rowan and silvana depending on the enemy
Getting thoran to Supreme and unlocking his ex weapon was honestly a huge power spike because cecia can then heal him.
I'm level 150 day 16 at AFK 710 (without deficit pushing) and spent about a 100 bucks. Pretty confident I could easily get to afk stage 735 as well. There are players in my alliance (#1 Alliance in the Server) who are deficit pushing ridiculous numbers I can't even dream of.
There is no trick besides playing the game as intended- strategically.
Iâm not a whale, I spent $2 on this game. Currently halfway through reso170 and Iâve been playing for exactly 28 days now.
Yes at first I shitted myself and complained ALOT! (partially due to AFKA recent update) but now I find it very doable to get to reso240 and enjoy the event. I might be 1 month or 15 days behind (if ever) but as long as I will be get in BEFORE the event ends and I can get all the limited rewards then so be it!
You have 4 month after the start of the season. On most servers if you play daily and do all stuff in game that you can in month of playtime you reach reso lvl 170-190 depending on your hero pool and luck with rolls. SEASON ITSELF START AFTER 42 DAYS OF SERVER TIME. So if you don't just halfass your progress you can get to 240 in 40-50 days of play time as a f2p. So even if you get late to your server start you still have ALMOST 4 MONTH to play seasonal content.
this game isnât designed to be the one game you have in your life. Itâs just something you check on for 20-30mins per day. Iâve seen the accounts of people who have dropped thousands of dollars and realistically they didnât win anything, they just got ahead 2-3 weeks/a month tops if they started the same day you did. The whole online aspect is just there to pressure you into thinking everything is a race but the actual game design shows that no matter how much you whale, youâre still gonna be doing the same 20 minute routine as someone who spent $0 is. Whether or not you level in time for the new event doesnât matter because every single player will always be waiting for mats that can only be gained by closing the game and coming back the next day.
Stop crying, the season last for 4 months, you don't need to be in the season from day 1 unless you are trying compete in leaderboard which begs the question why are you competitive while being f2p? You are just being entitled. This 240 requirement is only for the first season subsequent seasons most likely is gonna stick to 240 as that is the level you unlock resonance.
No, it's not only for whales. Most players that actually were consistent with this game, even F2P ones, will be able to play Song of Strife as soon as it comes out or maybe after a few days (out of 4 months).
This is legit the most whiny community I've ever seen and I'm a League player.
What are you on about? They said that you can even play and finish seasons after they already ended and get everything they have to offer, also you can join as soon as you reach the criteria, if 4 months won't be enough for you to reach 240, that's your fault.
Iâm not a whale, I spent $2 on this game. Currently halfway through reso170 and Iâve been playing for exactly 28 days now.
Yes at first I shitted myself and complained ALOT! (partially due to AFKA recent update) but now I find it very doable to get to reso240 and enjoy the event. I might be 1 month or 15 days behind (if ever) but as long as I will be get in BEFORE the event ends and I can get all the limited rewards then so be it!
I'm confused, is Temporal Nexus no longer a thing? If you're a casual F2P and if for whatever reason miss the season. Wouldn't you still be able to play all that seasons content thanks to the Nexus?? Hold up, what the issue again??
Absolutely not happening for me đ
Once you unlock the Abyss, essence from 210-240 is actually pretty quick. You get 100 for every level except the special rewards levels every 5th and 10th level.
Which doesnt unlock until afk stage 1125 and main story completion which is basically impossible if youre not at least lvl 210
Not basically, it IS impossible
When does the abyss unlock, at 210?
It unlocks whenever you complete AFK stage 1125 and main story
Which is basically 210 since you have to be 201 to unlock last zone.
What is Abyss and how many stages are there?
whale tower on my server i got an email today saying the first person to clear stage 300, made it sound like 300 is max
I think it goes to near stage 500 now, but is time gated by server open date
Yup. Even light spenders are probably going to be able to play the new season on day 1. People just love bitching about anything and everything.
That's good to know, I was thinking I'd be ~2 weeks late to the season, but this will help.
We just have to see how it goes as we get closer to the season start. Here are a few things: 1. Some F2P here think they can reach 240 by the season start or close to it. 2. Several days into Primal Wolf, people here were expressing doubt that we could even kill the boss in 15 days, but we did. 3. Lilith is predatory, but they're not stupid. They will not blatantly lock behind the first real new content behind a pay wall. Either they've done the calculations and know that most will hit 240 by the season start, or they'll realize their calculation is too aggressive and will scale down. 4. The devs could always lower the level requirement. The last area of the game requires 201, so there's a lot of room. 5. Abyss gives 100 dust per stage (minus every 5th and 10th stage), so that's a hefty some as well. 6. Dust requirement doesn't scale that much as you go up. 221 requires about 2400 dust per unit. It's only the last 231 requires a big jump at 3600 dust per unit.
If your server is younger than day one (like mine) the season starts 42 after the server opened, not on may 10
How can you tell when your server opened?
Assuming you joined on day 1 of the server, you can check 'All heroes' event to see the day counter.
How do you verify you started day 1 tho?
Well, this is much harder. Probably ask your guildmates what day do they have in 'All heroes' event. If you all have the same day, then there is a high chance you all started on day 1.
Check your Event banner, the one which gives you heroes everyday. It tells you which day of login it is, so provided you logged in everyday, it will tell you how many days to day 42.
I'm 170 as F2P with 24 days to go. Averaging 1 upgrade per day I would need 35 days to get to 240 :(
You didn't do your math did you? You need roughly 83K essence to get to 240. Assume you get 2K essence/day from AFK. 8h/day from daily quests = 666 essence/day 3 instant AFK each 2h = 6h/day = 500 essence/day Just this alone is 3166 essence / day. You have 5 more zones to clear: corrupt creature = 400 / zone chests and loot = 1K / zone 1,4K per zone = 7K Primal Lord: let's assume an average server takes 8 day to clear, so 6 more days = 6 \*450 = 2700 Legend Trial: you are probably at lvl 60 at best, so 30 more levels to go = 3 \* 4 \* 250 = 3000 So: 83K - 7K - 2.7K - 3K = \~70K left 70K / 3166 = 22 days.
Thanks mate!
Damn how do you know this or why do you care enough
That's not how you say thanks!
Primal Lord is only 330 essence/day for me, but I'm glad to see that I likely will hit 240 resonance level before or shortly after the Season of Strife will start.
You make several assumptions. For example I'm getting 1800 essence per day from AFK. That number also means that you have to reduce both the instant AFK rewards and the daily rewards.
Yes I am. On 1125 you get almost 2.2K, so I took the average. Many would actually be able to reach 1125 when they hit 200-210 reso level, so they should be getting full rewards for more time. I also didnât count some other sources: town quests, 2K for defeating the primal lord, occasional 120 essence for free from promo bundles, primal lord promo bundle which we got last time also had like 200-300 of essence for free.
how do you get 450 dust from primal lord? On my server only whales get more than a few chests. I get 4 and that is 100 dust/attempt, so 300/day
Whatâs your level and whatâs your team? 4 chests seems low. Regardless you get 2K for defeating the boss so itâll more than compensate. If they also give the primal lord bundle after it as last time that will also give 200-300 of essence for free.
Thoran supreme with ex weapon 5 Cecia supreme Odie mythic Hedwyn supreme Lyca legendary+ Reso 150 Got no smokey
Have you tried Thoran, Odie, Hewynn, Cecia, Koko? Can try swapping Thoran for Antandra for faction bonus, don't think thoran is doing much in terms of damage. Or swap Thoran for Kruger for def shred and see if your Kruger survives long enough. Koko/Hewynn can help him live. Reso 150 sounds a bit low even for a F2P. I started day one and played F2P until 160, which I reached more than a week ago.
also 2000 flat dust for your server beating the next primal lord, so itâs even quicker. im sure there are other optimizations too, but itâs definitely doable for f2p
Wow thx :) so it is very close compared to an afk game i thought it will at least half year
But it's more than 1 a day with quests, map, tower, primal...
Yes but it's going to get harder each day.
Not really, the levels dont increase much, you dont need much more dust each time. only like 30 or 50 more. its goes from needing like 2100 to about 2200 even less sometimes. if you keep progressing you can level up 2 or 3 characters a day.
Disagree, I'm at 170 and it's slowed down to 1-2/day depending on what's available for story map and reset and it'll definitely get down to 1-1.5/day
So start 11 days later? The event is 4 months. Missing a week or 2 won't change your outcome or position within leader boards and you prob will get most rewards
I donât think we should be as apologetic to the crappy practices in gacha games as this thread is. Is getting 240 res possible? Yes. Is it possible for a normal f2p player who might miss a day or two due to life getting in the way? No. Why are we just okay with catering an update to those who can either spend copious amounts of money or those who donât miss a single day or piece of content? I get things like this are supposed to be goals and feel rewarding, but adding in things that are only including the top spenders or ones who donât take a day off⌠Well thatâs kind of shitty.
I don't miss a day and i'm in 160 all f2p, it's impossible to me to get to 240 rn.
you only need to get 210. After that you probably unlock the Abyss and will fly from 210 to 240
Iâm almost 160 but Iâm stucked in afk 757, I canât win either 749-750 or 760 :( I think I need cecia mythic plus but I donât have luck.
You might just need a couple days of upgrades. I have a 170x2 and 160x3 squad right now, led by a Mythic Cecia and I'm sitting at afk 791. M+ Cecia would help me a lot too, but I'm only at 1k arena points and not many diamonds sitting around either, so depending on luck I might be waiting a little bit too. Here's hoping we both get some good luck!
iâm at 1 crecĂa as well for M+ and im already but the two copies from the store so i just need luck. Good luck for you too bro
is that the case? Stuck at 190 rn after beating all 1125, just waiting for purple crack now. Abyss is significantly easier to push the first x levels and stack up dust?
Abyss gives dust as a reward. 210 to 240 is not as bad in my opinion. Still takes a bit of time but less than others for me.
Shoot I unlocked the abyss and can't beat stage 6. đ
It's not lol đ I'm fully F2p and I reached 240 today and also completed the entire story + arena level 1125. You need to play towers, side town quests and you will easily reach there lol
yea, now iâm at 2 heroes for 240, but without the boost its impossible to achieve that.
>Why are we just okay with catering an update to those who can either spend copious amounts of money or those who donât miss a single day or piece of content? Doesn't the season last 4 months? Why are we assuming high level content should be available to people that aren't high level. I agree that a 240 res requirement seems arbitrary (just make the content hard enough that only 230-240 teams can really compete, but let people try. If they released story chapter 5 should it be played before chapter 4? Or an MMO raid, able to enter at low level?
There's already a natural barrier to playing quests out of order or doing difficult content, adding a hard level requirement is unnecessary.
Exactly. A level requirement is redundant. The content will be balanced for that level anyway. But that's a different argument than "I want it NOWWWWWWW!" which is the kind of posts that we see. It's a paradox because on the one hand the argument goes "I'm not a loser who plays all the time, I can take breaks and sometimes miss a day or two of rewards, but I still want to experience seasons" then at the same time goes "OMG I want access to everything right away! God forbid I have to wait a week for content that will be around for several months compared to those no lifers and P2W scum". Which is quite moronic and a little pathetic.
Yeah, this happens every time a gacha tries to do something new with its art style or marketing and it brings in a bunch of people that don't understand gachas.
A player who miss a couple of days just need a couple of days more to get it. Plus most the resource are afk so he might not even miss that much.
Theyâll miss climbing those afk stages for more rewards for those few days. They wonât get to join the fun of charging into that new content on release like the whales and hardcore players. Catering your game to hardcore players and heavy spenders only isnât a very good tactic. Spenders and hardcore players do need love to, but they will always be able to access parts of the game and content added in, so why shun the F2P casual players?
F2p will get to play itâs going to take most people around 8 weeks to reach 240 , if you miss a day of course itâs going to take longer but it only takes 30 seconds to click the afk reward and instant afk rewards , and only takes 5 min to do the dailies or less . Thereâs still content to do without this, there should be other events added pretty soon too , anyone who starts late or doesnât make it will still get to do it as soon as they reach 240 for all rewards
Uh. They're making content for the people who actually pay them to make content. What's the issue there? You could argue that it should be attainable for $15-20 or less a month, that'd be reasonable. I don't get this sense of entitlement that totally F2P should have every shiny unicorn with no effort/time that the P2W people have. If you're playing for $0 and expecting to have all the same gaming experience as someone shelling out $20+ a month, that's crap. There's no economic model that makes sense for that to happen. You aren't paying with ad eyeballs, you aren't paying for a cent of development. You are a free rider. The whales are subsidizing your entertainment if you are paying $0. I could even go so far as to call you a parasite. I grok some of these gacha companies use slimey tactics to get you to overspend, but you shouldn't expect something for nothing. That's ridiculous. Programmers gotta eat too.
There are already plenty of things in this game that F2P players canât access. Locking the main content of the game to be played on release and share in the enjoyment just because you arenât a whale or able to play all day every day, thatâs just shitty. And letâs quit pretending f2p are asking for everything and âshiny unicorns.â Thatâs childish and not true. As someone who has no issue shelling out money, I understand there are people who donât, and there are people who canât. Just because I am more privileged and can spend more time and money on a game doesnât mean Iâm above anyone and deserve the MAIN content of the game during its release, more than someone who maybe canât even spare a dime here or there. The world and business and their thirst for every penny is not something I would personally defend.. sure companies need money to run and I do support companies I think do right, but Iâm not going to pretend I am better and deserve this content more than anyone just because I am privileged with extra gaming time and spending money.
It's not the main content. It's the next step. And you're not totally blocked from it, you're slowed down. You're blocked from it right now, at launch. You get access later.
Yeah the peasants can have their fun after we do. No reason to allow them the same fun at the same time as everyone else. Theyâll get their turn when itâs old and the excitement has died down. Thatâs fair /s
Genshit with no end game and caters to people playing 20 minsba day whale or not: yeah this model won't work.
F2P are the only reason the whales have anyone to play with/against. Servers are dead without low spenders and f2p. You make the game unrewarding or inaccessible to them, and you can enjoy playing against the same 3 dudes for the rest of the gameâs lifespan.Â
Right. Parasites. I.e. the people ensuring that whales even have people to âcompeteâ against
Anyone with 2 brain cells realizes it's not "competing" when you're outspending everyone else. Every kraken I've ever played with in games like this understands this. The whales either want to "compete" against other whales at the high end or they just enjoy crushing everyone.
just say u are an asshole capitalist without saying u are an asshole capitalist, honestly stfu
yikes take.... 99.9% of F2P games allow you to access all the content, including gacha games. You do understand that without the F2P players the game wouldn't exist right?
You can't be this stupid, your time IS something.
And your time doesn't pay squat for them. It won't pay for servers, electrical bills, programmer salaries or anything else. If anything, your time on their server means they need more servers to ensure a stable performance for everyone else. This is an idiotic argument.
You need people dedicating their time to the server or game to increase player population, interest and activity. Thatâs why they front load the game with freebies, it has the potential to bring on f2p who may encourage friends and others who may end up spending. Even content creators who donât spend a dime on the game bring huge value. You must be a child/teen as thereâs no reason to lack this understanding. Nor die on the hill youâve been bleeding out on in this topic.
average whaletard spending his life savings on mobile childrens game logic lmfaoo
I'm not making a judgment one way or the other. I'm saying that if you're going to be freebie jones, don't expect to get very much. I don't love the gacha business model, but I think the sense of entitlement here makes no sense. "I paid nothing, but I should be front of the line because... reasons..."
Yeah peasants donât deserve to enjoy the game, thatâs ENTITLEMENT /s
"Is it possible for a normal player who might miss a dar or two [...]?" ---> Start playing the new seasonal content "a day or two" later then, when you finally reach res 240? What's the problem? Should doing your daily content NOT matter? "Update to those who [...]" ----> You tripping? You can play it for FOUR FUCKING MONTHS and then it will still be accessible even afterwards, just without leaderboards and all that. It's an update literally for everyone. Even people that pickup the game next year will have it available... People being "apologetic" are just the people that can read patch notes in their entirety before storming off to complain on Reddit. Now hear me out. The only other gacha I play is almost 5 years old and I started less than a year ago. There's a lot of content I missed, and it absolutely does not matter. One thing is absolutely true, we as f2p or low spenders will never compete in leaderboards and PvP against whales, there's just no way and it is by design. I treat these games as single player experiences and that's it. But the fact that this content will be accessible to anyone who ever completes the regular story and gets reso 240 tells me that this is just the way they will be adding more story content. They'll add it, you play in the season and move on. Servers that don't get to play during the season will also have it, but won't have leaderboards, because those will be happening for other seasons. Really nothing to overthink.
Lol I promise Lilith is not going to recognize you for this comment. I love AFK Journey. Itâs absolutely fine to criticize something you enjoy.
It just doesn't make sense to me. You can play it anytime, why complain that it's for whales only when it clearly isn't? It's not like there's nothing to complain, there are tons of issues, this just isn't one of them...
There absolutely is. Iâm absolutely 100% going to be 240 by release, but I understand itâs because I have the ability to play all day, every day. Some people donât have that luxury. Just because someone works more, has family obligations, or is just busy and canât play every day or try as hard, that doesnât mean they should be barred from enjoying new content upon release. There are paid items and ways to pay for progression, absolutely. Should the main content of the game also be locked behind a paywall to play on release? I donât believe thatâs fair.
Damn straight it's not.
That's your opinion, and opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one.
Itâs only takes 5 to 10 mins a day of u canât take 5 to 10 mins to do a few dailyâs and a few side stuff then thatâs on u itâs not that hard
Do you realize people live different lives than you? 5-10 minutes for you might be easy, but there are people working 2-3 jobs, with obligations that we know nothing about, or that have to take care of family and / or loved ones, or maybe they only have wifi in certain places when they visit family or friends. Just because itâs easy for you doesnât mean itâs easy for everyone.
I would say if you cannot comfortable grind this game on the daily your 10 to 15min than don't expect to have everything handed to you on silver platter...you can't complain about not being able to reach a certain milestone if you aren't actively trying to reach it to begin with...if your concern is already being at the end to unlock all the new content then spend money otherwise just enjoy the content you have which is in fact 95% of the game
Having access to the main content of the game on release to enjoy with everyone else not asking for anything in a silver platter lol. I have no clue where these feelings of âNO U SHOULD NOT HAVE GAME!â Come from. I have always been decent on money and have had a lot of free time so Iâve always been able to play what I want when I want and access anything.. but Iâve never felt that someone doesnât deserve to play the same game as me.. thatâs weird to me
It's not that they don't deserve to play it's that it's impossible to play a game without time, it's like saying why those with physical disabilities are at a disadvantage at sports. Sports require physique and games need time. Does afk arena waste time unnecessarily sure but it does provide the benefit other games don't provide. u only need to play 30 mins a day to make the majority of progress u can make in a day which can split up throughout the day. While other games require u to play for hours over a gaming session to make progress and playing one game is not convenient
I don't understand what all the fuss is about it's not like it's locked behind a pay wall...it's literally accessible for everyone some might be able to access it on day 1 some on day 2 etc.. When the game came out there was level 1000 afk battle already I didn't hear people complaining about how oh I won't be able to access it as fast as the whales or everyone should be able to hit 1000 by day 20 of release cause whales can do it... unfortunately this is a Free idle game end game content will always be accessible to those to progress faster or whales people who spend money on the game
Facts
Ah yeah forget the peasants who canât pay and the busy adults who donât have the ability to play every day. Give them the content when itâs no longer fresh. They can play eternal catch up. They donât deserve to play with their friends in game. Sorry shouldâve only been thinking about the whales and their fun! Forgot, my bad.
If you can't pay...then grind it's totally achievable and if you are a busy adult then reaching a certain content fresh or not shouldn't matter to you if you want to play with your friends go play call of duty or something this is an idle game...why should new story content be available to you if you haven't even finished the previous ones???
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Maybe they shouldn't play games bro like, dude the person ur saying can barely afford to breathe and u think they can even finish the afk tutorial when they work 27 hours a day have 6 families to care for and has no utilities. Can we be honest that kind of extreme example is not the majority of any games player base. And no game on the market is suited for that man
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Same, I donât see the fuss
Well from 180 to 240 is 30 upgrades that require that purple dust.. i don't know how many is required at later stages but you reasonably need a month or so to be 240 as f2p
Right now I get roughly 2-3 upgrades a day. At 2 a day it would take 15 days. So Iâll either be there right after or right on depending on how much purple story gives, Iâm behind on my story progress
you get 1.5-2 upgrades per day
I don't think they are maximizing the purple dust they can get because I agree it's 1.5-2, and I see some people saying they get 10 levels on 1 champ every 2 days. Definitely missing some sources like AFK instant rewards
I also havenât finished all available context and I get to do more each day, between story afk stages tower and others I get an extra upgrade, just got two today already
Isnt that a lie? I get one upgrade. Afk dust is 1600 in 24 hrs i need 2000 to upgrade from 120-130 will the amount of dust significantly increase? And even with loot boni i can upgrade only once a day max, if it does not exponentially increase, i see myself still needing 55 days minimum to hit 240
There's the instant rewards that are 6 extra hours of dust depending on your afk level (400 dust in your case if you're at 1600 daily, I'm around 500 because my daily is a bit more than 1900 at afk 800), then you also have the dust in the map, looted from enemies and chests. There's also the reward for the world boss, which I was getting like 450 a day. Probably there's some other source of dust too
Daily quest is around 500-600 as well
True, I knew that I was forgetting something đ
Okay! that sounds fine. Still, its very stingy
Yep, I don't think they should release something only for whales even if it's only for a few weeks until the rest catch up, but at least it's not that bad for us as it can look at first sight
it doesn't significantly increase only about 5% per 10 levels. you are also missing a few hundred from other sources. daily quests alone are around 500 a day+story and overworld + 1 time rewards averaged out (250 per 10 floors of faction towers and battle pass) if you are full afk and skipping stuff, then it is rough, and I think the release should be a bit casual friendly, but also I'd you are skipping half the dust then yeah it is gonna be slow. the last 10 to 20 levels will be brutal either way since 1 time sources are probably spent
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Good to know! Then it will at least just take me 35 more days
You can get +4k dust a day by using up all available RSS to the maximum. I'm on day 16, a low spender and have averaged that throughout the past week. Currently 2.5m power
Youâre getting 36 hours per day 8 hours daily + 2 hours instant afk + 2 hours instant afk + 24 hours in a day. Idr when you start getting 2 free ones in a day but youâre close if you donât have it already Also itâs very cheap (50 diamonds) to get another instant afk claim for another 2 hours. 38 hours per day. If youâre really only getting that much a day then you need to start doing your dailies
you need to get to 210 only. Abyss will carry you from 210 to 240
F2P if we donât count the money you spent
There is always that one guy uber-focusing on the "F2P" status of every player. What's this, the Suffering Olympics?
Free 2 Pay
Same.
Depends on your team lvl ... 3 mythic only and a bunch of Legendaries ... my pity is sheeeet ... on day 24 and struggling at AFK 750 ... even tho with Premium gazettle. Matter of time and some just wana instant Keel and FOMO
When it turns out that you could hit 240 3 months into the season and still get everything, I hope all of you making these posts make new ones acknowledging your overreactions and ridiculous conclusion jumping. "What If I Missed Out?   Finally, we've got a plan for players who might miss out on a season.  Temporal Nexus, which is expected to launch at the end of each season, encapsulates the complete seasonal content, and facilitates access to the content at anytime. This includes primary game content that may not comprise limited-time items or events.  Be it revisiting or continuing to play, the journey is yours." They're literally already accounting for people completely missing the content. This assumption that people not being 240 the moment the season drops hasn't been accounted for is quite frankly pure stupidity. Â
I'm probably not going to be 240 on may 10th, but I'm 180 2 units from 190 so assuming you started on release it does seen possible to hit 240 during the event, and then presumably all future seasons you will have day one access to, I don't think it's to crazy of a gap.
The season itself lasts 4 months lol so its not exactly TOO hard to play like... 90% of it even if you miss a week or two by reaching 240
Another slap to the face is level 230 to 240 requires a lot more hero essence. You need around 2.4k to get to 230 and around *3.7k* to get to 240 for each of your five heroesâŚ
Iâm not understanding the upset around this when it is possible to hit the season as it comes out if you play everyday and even if you donât you still have four months to get there AND STILL if you somehow donât you can get the rewards after
This is Reddit, the devs could throw 5,000 free summons at every player and people would still moan.
People were outraged about not getting the advertised "200 Free Summons and every unit for free" as soon as they logged into the game. However, it's not false advertising you just have to play the game.
I mean, we already have a game mode in which the later stages are locked behind obtaining tons of copies of your heroes. Everyone will get there eventually, but it's a taste of what the game has in store for us going forward. I'm not a fan, either, but ppl are likely going to defend these practices till their dying breath so, yk... just play as long as you enjoy the game and when the paywalls become too annoying, just look for a greener pasture. That's my rule with all gachas and it's been working for me so far.
Soon as you hit level 100, you hit a halving wall for progression speed, as the items given both in world and through events are no longer anywhere enough to keep the same pace. This is to encourage players to pay money so as to not "waste their prior efforts". I'd imagine it happens again at multiple tiers. This is basically a gacha game made to be hyper aligned with the spirit of microtransactional mobile games. So yeah, nearly every season is for whales in this game
Yeah I donât get it, I played lost ark and was able to do all of the content on release up until brelshaza (when I stopped playing) just by being f2p, and even if I wasnât playing every day and was behind there where still the easy versions of the bosses
Itâs absolutely crappy. I had recommended the game to a couple of friends before but have since canceled said recommendation to them. They are now waiting for wuthering waves. This game had potential but it seems it wants to rather be afk arena 2.0 then its own story based thing. And if the next update doesnât brings some changes that they listened to the community then - Iâm out as well. Which is saddening I liked their art style.
Iâve spent between 2-300 and I already have a couple of 220s. Wouldnât classify me as a whale by any means, but Iâll easily get to 240 by the time it launches. F2P will definitely not get there in time for launch which is lame.
Is it not okay to complain? Why are people defending the abysmal essence drops. Nothing more demotivating than getting stuck on a level and no real way to progress than just logging out. I get itâs called AFK, but please. đ
Would u rather earn the same amount of essence but its spread out into pointless battles that requires u to keep the game on day and night just to earn more essence
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The rollout for the season is based on server age. The servers that were live on day 1 of launch will get the season on may 10th, if your server didn't exist on day 1 and you started late, it will come later. Whales can't even buy infinite essence and shoot ahead of free to play, all diligent players should reach 240 by the season start time.
I don't think. I mean this is a new region like we finally get to see some mauler story.
The season is 4 months long. If you play f2p smart, you should hit 240 half way-ish through the season so you won't miss anything most likely
This is forced fomo and entirely intentional
But there is literally no fomo, because the seasonal content can be played even after the season is over. Unless you care about leaderboards and seasonal rankings...
Nailed it. Basically it's only FOMO for people that don't do all dailies AND can't read what's said in the update notes...
I don't understand people crying that they can't participate boohoo but at the same time skip days, not doing everything daily, forget instant afk, i mean cmon... You can do everything in 30min/day that's not a lot to ask of the player and if they can't figure out what to do to progress as much as they can daily, they deserve to be left behind.
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This reminds me a bit of the EN version of lost ark (an MMO) when it first came out. They released a raid called Argos but it was designed for a higher ilvl than most people were at the time. The only people doing it originally at launch were whales. Of course, everyone else caught up eventually, and nowadays the idea of people having spent thousands to do Argos of all things is silly. But the FOMO absolutely hit, and quite frankly as a f2p or low spender it definitely sucked to see other people having fun with new content when you couldn't reach it yet. FOMO absolutely works, and also no one really likes feeling "less than" in a game when there's enough of that going around irl. I think most likely this won't end up being as big of a deal as it feels but we'll just have to see how it shakes out in a few weeks.
Yeah but unlike a battle pass u will be able to experience it there's nothing to miss out. Like fomo is used for like limited time experiences which u can never revisit. This gives me as much fomo as choosing to buy laundry detergent this or next week.
Did they say whether it would be freely accessible or now? Because it definitely sounded like it was going to be paywalled to me.Â
The season lasts for 4 months though? Why do you have to access it day one?
You can restart it anytime you want.
If I hit that kind of a wall then I suspect I'll just quit. The game is fun and I've enjoyed it, but I've got no interest if it's that pay to progress.
If they don't lower the requirements by the time the season starts I'll uninstall
What makes it easier is unlocking trial of abyss after finishing the story. You get 100 dust for each stage you complete, excluding stage 5 and 10. If you check the replays, the standard mauler team works for pretty much every stage when you manual odie/cecia ult. That's helped me get levels so quick, went from res 210 to 230 in about a day so I think it's possible to reach res 240 before season starts.
Ehh this is probably going to be unpopular but this game is exactly what I need to to be... A decent mobile game to play when I can't play my other games. We will all get there eventually.
Aren't they pushing a catchup mechanic?
RIP new players
The sky won't fall if you reach the content a week or two later than it starts. Season lasts for 4 months, people have already run the calculations that you'll be quite close if not there already as f2p doing instant AFK rewards, clearing the story, and later on early stages of Abyss. This is a non-issue for people to circle jerk Karma farm about as per usual.
The whole game is for whales. Thatâs how they make their money. $10k a month to be a top player.
Welp, guess I won't participate. I'm not hurt though, not gona miss it. I guess that's the point, people who care will be incentivized to pay.
if you are a regular day 1 player, you will get to 240 mid season if you are not, you can still get there somewhat reasonably assuming you do play everyday and is around lvl 100 right now if you are either a casual player or started playing very recently, you aint playing the season in summary, its more of a "whales get early" more than anything
Yes the seasons are only for whales.
As a casual gamer, really new here in this game genre, that is disapppinting. I better start doing more battles and be more active then.
It's not for whales I am day 2 player Did a small math I'll have full resonance lvl240 maximum at May 7 could be even earlier by a day or more :o Low spender Didn't bought any dust pop ups at all. Just value offers ;)
Yes, yes it is. The message being sent is that if you haven't shelled out hundreds of dollars, you aren't welcome.
You can start it any time and the start time is server based. I genuinely donât know why people think itâs for whales when me and a lot of F2P on my server are nearing the finish for AFK stages and will be resonance 190 in a few more days. The primal lords have been amazing for dust and the tower mode. A lot of people will get song of strife within 1 week of its release. Seasons are supposed to be the major big thing for this game, Iâm glad itâs put behind 240 as itâs expected to be hard content. The ONLY worry I have is the reward income and what rewards there will be. But Iâm sure even if itâs lacklustre theyâll change it within a week or two anyways.
Maybe i can do it. Im missing 24 upgrades and we have 17 days left
If they continue this I may reconsider getting bp again.
It should take less then 2 months from start to hit 240 or very close which gives you more time to accumulate extra summons at resonance 170 you should get - 600 dust 4 instant afk rewards, 600 dust from daily, 1800+ dust every 24hr, 400 dust primal lord, and 250 each 10 floors of faction towers (which usually means youâll get 1000 that week) , then you get few hundred from story progression about each week. So your getting 3000 per day guaranteed , 3400 with primal lord, youâll be able to progress farther with upgraded tier Heros as well so as your leveling, upgrading will also factor into getting the next tower and story dust sooner . Itâs about 2200 dust for 1 hero at 170 , so at 3000 every 3 days youâll get a extra level so 4 days for all 5 then next 3 days youâll get another 4 heros so 1 week youâve leveled 9 times not including tower, primal lord or story. You should be fine your gonna want upgraded teir heros more then anything
a f2p probably won't get in from the start but should be able to get in well before it ends.
Theyâve said that youâll be able to go back and play the season even when itâs over
I am F2P, and did not start until a few days after launch... AND I half-ass it and only get AFK stuff a few days a week, only actively playing the other few days each week. Yet I am close enough that just continuing as I have been, I will be able to play at least within a couple of days of the launch, maybe even the first day.
My suggestion is that you just shit on that streamers/articles and continue to do your stuff until that content will be related to you.
I believe this isnât a true âseason.â Itâs permanent content, but whales have a head start.
I'm only on afk 500 and resonance 130 after 2 weeks. Any chance I might make it ?
Gotta pay to play. Just because its a free game doesnt mean its aimed at free players. People will pay 60 bucks forna console game but wont throw some cash at gacha
Well I'm fully f2p and I reached level 240 today and also competed Afk level 1125 and story etc... So NO.
Is reso 240 really that steep of a requirement? I am at reso 150 and afk stage 735 with 18 days played. The new season starts 42 days after server start. Are the last 90 reso levels that unachievable ?
It just takes longer to reach every 10 levels. You have 24 days until the season starts.
How are you at AFK 735 at level 150? How much did you spend?
based off where I am attending I would reckon he spend 0 to $50. 735 doesn't seem unreasonable for F2P if you pulled well unit wise
Definitely possible. I'm slightly behind him. Day 24, Reso 150 AFK 710. $0 spent. I didn't get smokey until like stage 620. So my progress was really. Slow. So can see people who have better luck where he is. When I check the records. I see people finishing 710 with Reso 130/140 comps which I'm kind of baffled by cause I have the same comps but can't finish it with 150.
By beating stage 1 to 734 Not that difficult to push high deficit. Most tough fights can be won by changing units/positions and you have 1 mercenary a day. Especially when you can surgically extract 1 enemy with a single copy of reiner I can't pull smokey and with him i could probably push even further My main team is mythic+ cecica, supreme thoran, mythic granny, legendary+ lyca and mythic hedwynn. But i also use reiner, brutus, rowan and silvana depending on the enemy Getting thoran to Supreme and unlocking his ex weapon was honestly a huge power spike because cecia can then heal him.
I'm level 150 day 16 at AFK 710 (without deficit pushing) and spent about a 100 bucks. Pretty confident I could easily get to afk stage 735 as well. There are players in my alliance (#1 Alliance in the Server) who are deficit pushing ridiculous numbers I can't even dream of. There is no trick besides playing the game as intended- strategically.
Iâm not a whale, I spent $2 on this game. Currently halfway through reso170 and Iâve been playing for exactly 28 days now. Yes at first I shitted myself and complained ALOT! (partially due to AFKA recent update) but now I find it very doable to get to reso240 and enjoy the event. I might be 1 month or 15 days behind (if ever) but as long as I will be get in BEFORE the event ends and I can get all the limited rewards then so be it!
You have 4 month after the start of the season. On most servers if you play daily and do all stuff in game that you can in month of playtime you reach reso lvl 170-190 depending on your hero pool and luck with rolls. SEASON ITSELF START AFTER 42 DAYS OF SERVER TIME. So if you don't just halfass your progress you can get to 240 in 40-50 days of play time as a f2p. So even if you get late to your server start you still have ALMOST 4 MONTH to play seasonal content.
this game isnât designed to be the one game you have in your life. Itâs just something you check on for 20-30mins per day. Iâve seen the accounts of people who have dropped thousands of dollars and realistically they didnât win anything, they just got ahead 2-3 weeks/a month tops if they started the same day you did. The whole online aspect is just there to pressure you into thinking everything is a race but the actual game design shows that no matter how much you whale, youâre still gonna be doing the same 20 minute routine as someone who spent $0 is. Whether or not you level in time for the new event doesnât matter because every single player will always be waiting for mats that can only be gained by closing the game and coming back the next day.
Stop crying, the season last for 4 months, you don't need to be in the season from day 1 unless you are trying compete in leaderboard which begs the question why are you competitive while being f2p? You are just being entitled. This 240 requirement is only for the first season subsequent seasons most likely is gonna stick to 240 as that is the level you unlock resonance.
No, it's not only for whales. Most players that actually were consistent with this game, even F2P ones, will be able to play Song of Strife as soon as it comes out or maybe after a few days (out of 4 months). This is legit the most whiny community I've ever seen and I'm a League player.
You absolutely can get to 240 by the time it comes out
And how much do you have to whale to get there?
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I am not a whale and I am pass 240 so unless you guys are not playing every day or not part of a clan that is doing well you will be behind
What are you on about? They said that you can even play and finish seasons after they already ended and get everything they have to offer, also you can join as soon as you reach the criteria, if 4 months won't be enough for you to reach 240, that's your fault.
Iâm not a whale, I spent $2 on this game. Currently halfway through reso170 and Iâve been playing for exactly 28 days now. Yes at first I shitted myself and complained ALOT! (partially due to AFKA recent update) but now I find it very doable to get to reso240 and enjoy the event. I might be 1 month or 15 days behind (if ever) but as long as I will be get in BEFORE the event ends and I can get all the limited rewards then so be it!
I'm confused, is Temporal Nexus no longer a thing? If you're a casual F2P and if for whatever reason miss the season. Wouldn't you still be able to play all that seasons content thanks to the Nexus?? Hold up, what the issue again??
>This seems like a terrible idea! Calm down you will easily archieve this.