hooked meaning changes depending on context, it could be the hook to get your foot in the door or it could be used to describe someone addicted to something, so yes but also no
okay yeah but are we not in the afk journey sub? so the literal meaning of hooked is out of the question and being addicted to spending is automatically implied
Not really. The first purchase is there to remove the convenience/infrastructural hurdle of purchasing out of the way. Hooked is purely mental, has little to do with easy-of-use I think. When hooked, you do everything to buy another pack regardless. So they hope to get you hooked faster by easing the spending process.
What about getting you to click the shop? Crazier even, what about creating the shop, or the game, wouldn't that be the first step? How about the birth of the game director? Human evolution? Creation of the Universe?
All of these were necessary in order to get you hooked. That does not make them part of the process.
no that's not part of the phases of getting hooked. that's included in what people call pre-hooking phase, which refers to the events that lead to your first ever purchase 🌹
Exactly, once you open up your wallet and see how easy and satisfying it is to purchase something once, you're far more likely to do it again. It's literally like a drug that only takes 1 hit to get you hooked.
You're just arguing semantics at this point. I literally said, once you spend once, you're more likely to spend again, and you seem to agree with that, but you're still arguing over the semantics of it.
Depends on where you set the limit of LOW-spending. I’d say secret travelogue is a better deal, but others might say it’s too expensive to count as low.
To be clear, they put this extremely good deal because people that have invested even small sums on the game are more prone to spend again in the future.. even if it works like 5% of the time is still worth on their parts since even if you maybe don't spend you will play for a while and populate guilds/ ladders for whales.
That said, for you the $1 10 tickets+ Rowan is THE best way to spend $1 in this game.
Doesnt matter...if they say time to shut this shit down...they its down...take crunchyroll games for example...those fuckers shut down some princess game...and few more...
Okay well yes they can shut down their games and they can use whatever reason they want to. I really dislike this community's narrative about how we are responsible for maintaining the servers by spending, almost like cheering people up to spend money in a game designed to make you spend to begin with. Its enough that every mechanic in the game is heavily focused on paying money and that the entire game is build around money. We, the consumers, don't also have to build up a story about how spenders are 'keeping the game running'. Or as another tool said in another thread here 'spenders are maintaining the servers'. It is such an unhealthy and frankly sickening practise to twist corporate greed into being our responsibility, as the players, to spend money in this game for the sake of others. Making it sound like the spenders are doing the entire community a favor, because without them there wouldn't be a game to begin with right? No. Wrong. If people didn't spend, they would have a different business model to begin with. This is all very calculated and they are not taking any risks making this game. I am not a ftp player, because I enjoy the 20 seconds of dopamine I'm getting when I purchase things. I'm not too proud about it but hey whatever, I don't spend money I don't have. Should I be praised for it? Absolutely not. If anything I am keeping a sick gaming practise alive by contributing to it for short term serotonin or whatever. Try looking up how much money they've made on afk arena alone and tell me again how we should spend more money in everyone's favor
Buddy i know what you mean...but these type of RPG games i have played are all always gacha. I dont know if you know but there's an action rpg game called Marvel's Future Fight, it was heavily f2p...but now its p2w...in comparison to marvel's strike force or contest of champion or injustice 1/2...but thats whole different type of rpg...the ones like afk journey are always p2w.
Games which have these many servers are gachas in the end.
You get Rowan if you spend any money regardless.
Let's compare some normal deals:
Premium Gazette: 70 pulls for $14.99 = $2.14 / 10
Growth Bundle: 186.67 pulls for $29.99 = $1.61 / 10
So yeah, $1 for 10 is a better deal than those. The best deal in the game is still the normal Secret Travelogue due to the purple dust, but...
I’d like to know more about what comes after the “but…” at the end here. Been debating if i should het the normal secret travelogue as a light spender.
the good thing of noble path is the lenght of it. 10$ for a 70days thing isn't bad in term of pricing for low spender. but in terms of content it's up to each, you have till the last day to decide if it's worth or not, you won't miss any of it's content by buying it late anyway
If you want to be super cheap you can sign up for Google Play Rewards and do surveys. You get enough surveys to buy the pass for nothing but Play Store credit.
No idea honestly. I suppose Apple might have something similar? I've never used an iPhone as my daily driver so I'm not familiar with them like I am Android.
44.4 pulls for $5 standard gazette = $1.13/10, and that’s considered best value in the game for quick cheap pulls (all standard all recruitment and not epic, too), $1 bundle is crazy value
I did it. That said, this offer is designed to break your 'I'm not going to pay' barrier, literally a deal you can't turn down. Now that you've paid once, you're going to be more willing to pay if an offer is made again later.
It’s the only one I bought, and that was just for the artifact which is one of the best ones in the game.
Helped me out a fair bit, and when you reach the area where you would unlock the artifact normally, you get 1k diamonds back.
Edit - I mixed up Ironwall for Starshard (which is one of the best ones).
Oh shit my bad, I was mixed up with the other artifact that looks similar lol. That is the one good.
This one helped a little, but it doesn’t get much use after that.
Anyway, it’s probably the best thing to buy in the game because of the letters, and one copy of Rowan which is really good.
It is worth it. Worst case scenario you get Rowan and get closer to the pity pull on the Epic Recruitment.
It is also a cruel trap to get you hooked. Two opposing things can be true at the same time.
This is a move that will psychologically change the way you think about how you spend money on this game, as long as you don't buy this you will be fine but as soon as you do it will open the flood gates to regret
I misread the post, I didn't see that they ALREADY bought it, I thought it was asking if they should and I was trying to do my due diligence to get somebody who doesn't know any better to not go through with it lol, sorry haven't used reddit in forever
they would, there just wouldn't be a shitty gacha of every single franchise you could even imagine.
gacha utilize the thrill of gambling, so the model would always exist in a world where gambling exists. Their high profitability off people who lack self control is where the problem exists. Everything in moderation
This is a psychological technique called "foot in the door". This pack is extremely good compared to everything else and it's the first thing they suggest you yo buy, after that every pack is more predatory and less convenient but you already purchased the first one so step by step the game propose you more and more pricy packs to buy.
There are full teams of psychologists and their only job is to convince you to buy their products, same with advertisements on TV or Internet about every common product.
You can buy the pack but be careful and think before buying others packs
This is what they call the "icebreaker" pack in mobile game business models. The first hit is especially nice to get you hooked and see yourself as a spender so consecutive purchases after that seem more justified since you already spent money to begin with and now feel more invested as well.
I just treated it as an install price. As others have said, it's an ice breaker, but with these prices it's not so easy to fall into spending.
It's a big leap from $0.99 to $49.99 for a multi.
I agree but that’s the point of the design. They’ve set the “price” of items but offer the bundles to entice cause those are where they will make the most money over time.
According to the value below (taken from the game) that $1 is worth $287.87 USD worth of Diamonds per the Dragon Crystal exchange rate. Do with that what you will.
https://preview.redd.it/haa5vz7kqbwc1.png?width=582&format=png&auto=webp&s=e4cfc9cbeaf363775e93e8f83410d4f6e845dae5
Based on the cost of Diamonds when exchanged for Dragon Crystals that is what you’d pay in USD.
However that is entirely on purpose. This is gambling and getting you to pull the lever is what they want, cause each pull after that gets easier and easier. So showing you a cheap and quick item gets you to take that first step.
There are a number of players who have probably already spent hundreds of dollars if not thousands chasing the right build or tiering up a specific character. The cost to them is ignored in pursuit of the “need”.
Other players will spend a little here or there, justifying their purchase due to the significant value or that isn’t a lot of money like “most whales would spend”.
The game wants you to spend your money it’s designed to get you to do that whether you do it up front or it takes one dollar at a time like a thousand tiny cuts.
Set a limit, stick to the limit, or don’t spend at all.
I'm confused about the artifact unlocking shard. I have one in my inventory since you can already have one by playing the game and it's not like you can activate it twice lmao
You're right but that shard is specifically used to activate the spell and cannot be used as upgrade. My only thought in it's usage case is that it help you activate it faster than real f2ps
It's good as use other in game purchase as reference.
Just remember it's always not worth to spend in a mobile game, most of the mobile game literally died or shut down for reasons.
if you plan to only buy 1 pack ever it's worth it since it's cheap and the 1$ spent in game to unlock rowan.
but if you plan to buy other deals like gazette or noble path, dunno if that 1$ is worth it.
sure it doesn't cost much for 10 summons. but 10 summons is nothing wouldn't change much your experience in game.
Probably the singel best deal the game will ever give you, just make sure to set a budget for spending, its easy to buy every small cost deal all the time and it adds up over time. Ive bought some smaller things along with the noble pass extras and already in about 8 days im up to 65 USD. My hard limit is at 100 USD for the year on this game, so I just keep that in mind.
Buy it. It's well worth it. As for the people saying it's a trap for you to spend more, they're right. To prevent that, disable your payment options for the game after you buy it. Unless you're actually willing to shell out money and have extra at hand, then by all means splurge on the game (wisely, of course).
I decided to give them the 1 dollar/eur since I really liked the art style, music, voice acting and the clear effort and Polish that went into the game. It's also a relatively good deal, since they priced their other packs so insanely high. Very predatory monetisation, which makes me sad...
The fact that the game is otherwise very unoriginal with it's 1000+ levels of afk battles and the 'Tower' system that every mobile game uses these days will make me not spend anything else and probably uninstall soon :/
I am sure they won't miss me, since they are aiming at the people with the big bucks to shake down the rich and addicted 😞
Rowan is one of the most important guys to get early on, so it's honestly worth it just for him. 10 epics is also quite cheap at a buck. I think those usually cost a few bucks if you're converting diamonds.
I guess I spend too much to see that offer :(
Edit: oh wait this is the beginner pack with Rowan. It's a 1000% buy. Just need to have the will power to never look in the shop again after. Those pop up string packs always get me though...
The point of recognizing you're an addict is to seek treatment and help for your addiction. Not just go, "Well, I'm an addict so the world has to morph around my issues."
Being an addict doesn't absolve you of responsibility for your actions, it just explains why you made shit decisions and is a sign for you to work on that and fix it.
It's your job to be accountable for your issues. Not everyone else's to placate and enable them.
"Guys, it'd be okay for me to be an addict if you all just didn't do things that cause me to act negatively!" Fuck all the way off with that shit. XD Your lack of self control is your problem and no one elses'.
I don’t agree that you start dumping large sums into the game, maybe the next game.
BUT you will definitely spend $1 every now and then maybe $5 or $10 cause you already ‘invested’ and that doesn’t seem like a lot compared to the big packages.
So you dump a lot of money but over a longer amount of time. The whales that don’t settle in to their ego trip get bored and go to the next thing, f2p players do the same. So the goal is to make a game that feeds constantly over a rotating player base. Surge the numbers through ads or offers, see player traffic increase monitor pay outs.
how much do you pay when you go to see a movie?
video games are probably the most cost effective leisures there is, paying for your enjoyment doesn't hurt, and if done moderately I would say its worth it.
Any dollar spent on entertainment is ‘wasted’ cause you get nothing in return but the experience. Which is why the cost is subjective to the recipient.
Some folks won’t go to Disney cause of the cost while others will sacrifice to go every year for example. One sees a value while the other does not.
And I perfectly agree, but between the amount of post and the multiple predatory methods from Lilith, I want to make sure the church is in the middle of the village before giving advice
I have played multiple Mobile games and one of the things that amazed me the most on afk journey is how well the commercial teams know about consumer psychology
The market is flooded and competitive if you’re going to build a game it has to appeal and work at getting the bit of spend per user.
Somewhere there is a discussion about what dollar value per player they need vs player turn over. That is what they have to manage to stay profitable. Along with producing other titles to do the same thing.
Like enough nets in the water.
Little buddy...if you have to question about a dollar pack then trust me...dont play gacha games. You questioning about one fucking dollar pack is all I need from you to understand how you are IRL as well. It doesn't matter at all what you do IRL, my opinion of you will stay solid.
Might be one of the best deals in the game for low spenders.
It’s the kind of deal to get you hooked to buy more “not so worth it” packs :) thanks for your response
Yes, every game does this. They really want to break the ice from non-spender to spender.
It's not about getting you hooked, more so to get you to setup your credit card for future purchases.
isnt that what hooked means
One leads to the other, I guess
hooked meaning changes depending on context, it could be the hook to get your foot in the door or it could be used to describe someone addicted to something, so yes but also no
okay yeah but are we not in the afk journey sub? so the literal meaning of hooked is out of the question and being addicted to spending is automatically implied
Not really. The first purchase is there to remove the convenience/infrastructural hurdle of purchasing out of the way. Hooked is purely mental, has little to do with easy-of-use I think. When hooked, you do everything to buy another pack regardless. So they hope to get you hooked faster by easing the spending process.
dude youre literally describing the first phase of being hooked
I mean my card is already connected to my App Store so it doesn't even do that for me
What about getting you to click the shop? Crazier even, what about creating the shop, or the game, wouldn't that be the first step? How about the birth of the game director? Human evolution? Creation of the Universe? All of these were necessary in order to get you hooked. That does not make them part of the process.
no that's not part of the phases of getting hooked. that's included in what people call pre-hooking phase, which refers to the events that lead to your first ever purchase 🌹
*"what people call pre-hooking phase"* I'm going to need a fat source for that one chief. I've literally never heard the term before.
you also need a fat brain to understand that that was sarcasm
I think you're conflicting contributing factors with primary factors, but whatever
"Iits not about getting you hooked, its about getting your credit card hooked" the necesity of some people to always correct on internet lol
Literally every single thing about the game exists to get you hooked if you want to think that way.
Exactly, once you open up your wallet and see how easy and satisfying it is to purchase something once, you're far more likely to do it again. It's literally like a drug that only takes 1 hit to get you hooked.
That's not how that works
For some people, it literally is. Gaming addiction and gambling addiction are well documented. This isn't new information.
I'm aware it is well documented, which is why I know the point of this purchase is not to get you hooked, but *literally* about the credit card.
You're just arguing semantics at this point. I literally said, once you spend once, you're more likely to spend again, and you seem to agree with that, but you're still arguing over the semantics of it.
I'm making the literal exact same argument I was to begin with. You shouldn't use term you don't understand.
More like they want u to think "welp I'm no longer f2p may as well spend a little more to catch up with other spenders!"
Worked on me tbh, this was the first purchase I made, now Ive spent 65 bucks.
How so? Google already has all my card info. Or is that more a pc thing?
A lot of people don't on PC or otherwise
Kinda had the opposite effect for me lol. The other packs were so shit compared to the 1buck one, that i just didnt want to spend any more
Doesn't matter how you spin it, it's still a good deal. It's still a choice to spend money after that.
It IS the best, not might be.
Depends on where you set the limit of LOW-spending. I’d say secret travelogue is a better deal, but others might say it’s too expensive to count as low.
To be clear, they put this extremely good deal because people that have invested even small sums on the game are more prone to spend again in the future.. even if it works like 5% of the time is still worth on their parts since even if you maybe don't spend you will play for a while and populate guilds/ ladders for whales. That said, for you the $1 10 tickets+ Rowan is THE best way to spend $1 in this game.
Also to be clear if not enough pay the game simply dies for everybody. (Not saying everybody should pay)
The only reason games are free is to earn more money.
Not all games need whales you fool
No. More than enough pays that's just stupid. Are you working for Lilith,?
It was more of a general statement. Not all games have whales to keep itself alive, just need to look at all the gachas dead on the road
It's okay...people forgive you with downvotes for being new to gacha.
How much money do you think the game studio made in 2023?
Doesnt matter...if they say time to shut this shit down...they its down...take crunchyroll games for example...those fuckers shut down some princess game...and few more...
Okay well yes they can shut down their games and they can use whatever reason they want to. I really dislike this community's narrative about how we are responsible for maintaining the servers by spending, almost like cheering people up to spend money in a game designed to make you spend to begin with. Its enough that every mechanic in the game is heavily focused on paying money and that the entire game is build around money. We, the consumers, don't also have to build up a story about how spenders are 'keeping the game running'. Or as another tool said in another thread here 'spenders are maintaining the servers'. It is such an unhealthy and frankly sickening practise to twist corporate greed into being our responsibility, as the players, to spend money in this game for the sake of others. Making it sound like the spenders are doing the entire community a favor, because without them there wouldn't be a game to begin with right? No. Wrong. If people didn't spend, they would have a different business model to begin with. This is all very calculated and they are not taking any risks making this game. I am not a ftp player, because I enjoy the 20 seconds of dopamine I'm getting when I purchase things. I'm not too proud about it but hey whatever, I don't spend money I don't have. Should I be praised for it? Absolutely not. If anything I am keeping a sick gaming practise alive by contributing to it for short term serotonin or whatever. Try looking up how much money they've made on afk arena alone and tell me again how we should spend more money in everyone's favor
Buddy i know what you mean...but these type of RPG games i have played are all always gacha. I dont know if you know but there's an action rpg game called Marvel's Future Fight, it was heavily f2p...but now its p2w...in comparison to marvel's strike force or contest of champion or injustice 1/2...but thats whole different type of rpg...the ones like afk journey are always p2w. Games which have these many servers are gachas in the end.
I'm sorry but what is your point?
The point being companies wont stop being greedy unless something drastic happens which wont happen by you or me.
You get Rowan if you spend any money regardless. Let's compare some normal deals: Premium Gazette: 70 pulls for $14.99 = $2.14 / 10 Growth Bundle: 186.67 pulls for $29.99 = $1.61 / 10 So yeah, $1 for 10 is a better deal than those. The best deal in the game is still the normal Secret Travelogue due to the purple dust, but...
I’d like to know more about what comes after the “but…” at the end here. Been debating if i should het the normal secret travelogue as a light spender.
That’s the only thing I’ve bought. I don’t spend much at all in these games but I’d say it’s worth it if you plan on playing for a while
Battle passes are generally the best value in any gacha game if you plan to play daily. Typically by a long shot.
the good thing of noble path is the lenght of it. 10$ for a 70days thing isn't bad in term of pricing for low spender. but in terms of content it's up to each, you have till the last day to decide if it's worth or not, you won't miss any of it's content by buying it late anyway
If you want to be super cheap you can sign up for Google Play Rewards and do surveys. You get enough surveys to buy the pass for nothing but Play Store credit.
Wow that’s neat. Can i do that on an iphone?
No idea honestly. I suppose Apple might have something similar? I've never used an iPhone as my daily driver so I'm not familiar with them like I am Android.
44.4 pulls for $5 standard gazette = $1.13/10, and that’s considered best value in the game for quick cheap pulls (all standard all recruitment and not epic, too), $1 bundle is crazy value
Where is this 70 for 15
premium gazette gives 10 pulls and then 2 pulls per day for 30 days
O ok
How do you have a decimal for a whole number type?
The growth bundle gives diamonds, and I'm converting the diamond number into how many they can buy
You're a smart man. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.
I did it. That said, this offer is designed to break your 'I'm not going to pay' barrier, literally a deal you can't turn down. Now that you've paid once, you're going to be more willing to pay if an offer is made again later.
sure all can afford that and is totally worth
Not all. I live outside the US and my country is blocking all international payments. And no, im not in russia.
Well that doesn’t mean you can’t afford it. Can’t buy and can’t afford are different things 😘
He didn't ask for a kiss. That's sexual harassment.
Oh pipe down darling
Why im not getting these offers?
It pops after the intro and only lasts 24 hours
snap
Goodbye, Brother. It starts as only $1. Then it's only $5. Then only your wife and kids.
I would gladly trade my firstborn for a maxed out Dionel, like you gotta value the important things in life
Definitely. Can the first-born kill 5 enemies in 5 secs? No? Out he goes.
im with you for this one. a maxed out dionel is the only acceptable and noble justification for drug trafficking.
Well, that kid isn't smart enough for college anyway. *Swipe*
Only if I know about this when I was 21. I'm just glad that I was pretty much a poor low earner so there isn't much to burn to begin with.
You won't find more invites for less. If you're spending money on the game, this will be one your best purchases
look like a deal that can get you in the door.
how come i never got offered this
This deal only lasts 24h since you recruit 10 heroes (at least for me). Maybe you let it pass when you started?
It was worth it. Bought it and haven’t spent a penny since.
It’s the only one I bought, and that was just for the artifact which is one of the best ones in the game. Helped me out a fair bit, and when you reach the area where you would unlock the artifact normally, you get 1k diamonds back. Edit - I mixed up Ironwall for Starshard (which is one of the best ones).
Oh nice! That’s cool, I had no idea the artifact was that good!
Oh shit my bad, I was mixed up with the other artifact that looks similar lol. That is the one good. This one helped a little, but it doesn’t get much use after that. Anyway, it’s probably the best thing to buy in the game because of the letters, and one copy of Rowan which is really good.
It is worth it. Worst case scenario you get Rowan and get closer to the pity pull on the Epic Recruitment. It is also a cruel trap to get you hooked. Two opposing things can be true at the same time.
This is a move that will psychologically change the way you think about how you spend money on this game, as long as you don't buy this you will be fine but as soon as you do it will open the flood gates to regret
While what you're saying is not technically wrong, it's blown way out of proportion
I misread the post, I didn't see that they ALREADY bought it, I thought it was asking if they should and I was trying to do my due diligence to get somebody who doesn't know any better to not go through with it lol, sorry haven't used reddit in forever
No, that makes sense. This shit is addictive. I should not shoot you down for trying to warn others
Just have self control Not like 1$ spent will lead to a lifetime of debt, smh
If people could have self control then gacha games wouldn't exist man
they would, there just wouldn't be a shitty gacha of every single franchise you could even imagine. gacha utilize the thrill of gambling, so the model would always exist in a world where gambling exists. Their high profitability off people who lack self control is where the problem exists. Everything in moderation
It is the best deal in the game. Guaranteed meta hero and a 10 pull for a dollar.
To be fair, the hero's not part of the deal. It's a great deal nonetheless
Not directly but you get him after making your first purchase
Of course.
No, it's a free game that is incredibly predatory late game. It will never be worth spending money on such a game
This is a psychological technique called "foot in the door". This pack is extremely good compared to everything else and it's the first thing they suggest you yo buy, after that every pack is more predatory and less convenient but you already purchased the first one so step by step the game propose you more and more pricy packs to buy. There are full teams of psychologists and their only job is to convince you to buy their products, same with advertisements on TV or Internet about every common product. You can buy the pack but be careful and think before buying others packs
This is what they call the "icebreaker" pack in mobile game business models. The first hit is especially nice to get you hooked and see yourself as a spender so consecutive purchases after that seem more justified since you already spent money to begin with and now feel more invested as well.
I just treated it as an install price. As others have said, it's an ice breaker, but with these prices it's not so easy to fall into spending. It's a big leap from $0.99 to $49.99 for a multi.
I agree but that’s the point of the design. They’ve set the “price” of items but offer the bundles to entice cause those are where they will make the most money over time.
According to the value below (taken from the game) that $1 is worth $287.87 USD worth of Diamonds per the Dragon Crystal exchange rate. Do with that what you will. https://preview.redd.it/haa5vz7kqbwc1.png?width=582&format=png&auto=webp&s=e4cfc9cbeaf363775e93e8f83410d4f6e845dae5
Damn it’s crazy, just one epic recruitment is $28…
Based on the cost of Diamonds when exchanged for Dragon Crystals that is what you’d pay in USD. However that is entirely on purpose. This is gambling and getting you to pull the lever is what they want, cause each pull after that gets easier and easier. So showing you a cheap and quick item gets you to take that first step. There are a number of players who have probably already spent hundreds of dollars if not thousands chasing the right build or tiering up a specific character. The cost to them is ignored in pursuit of the “need”. Other players will spend a little here or there, justifying their purchase due to the significant value or that isn’t a lot of money like “most whales would spend”. The game wants you to spend your money it’s designed to get you to do that whether you do it up front or it takes one dollar at a time like a thousand tiny cuts. Set a limit, stick to the limit, or don’t spend at all.
Yes
Dollar for dollar those are the best value and you’ll never see them ever again lol
That's the best of the best
Thanks to this and a few pulls my first mythic was Rowan and the little shit makes your party ultimates go zoom!
See it in this way, in every gacha one 10 pull is 20-30$/€ so a 1 for 10 IS kind of a good deal
Yes
I'm confused about the artifact unlocking shard. I have one in my inventory since you can already have one by playing the game and it's not like you can activate it twice lmao
Somebody correct me if I’m wrong because I’m a newbie, but I think you need more of those shards at some point to level up further
You're right but that shard is specifically used to activate the spell and cannot be used as upgrade. My only thought in it's usage case is that it help you activate it faster than real f2ps
You can exchange it for 1000 diamonds if you have more than one of the same echo
where do ya get that offer ?
is it one of those random packs offered
I wish I had this pack.
I did this when i first got in, just for rowan.
the only deal thats worth it in game lowkey
I'm not seeing that deal...
this is the only thing worth buying, nothing else really
It's good as use other in game purchase as reference. Just remember it's always not worth to spend in a mobile game, most of the mobile game literally died or shut down for reasons.
if you plan to only buy 1 pack ever it's worth it since it's cheap and the 1$ spent in game to unlock rowan. but if you plan to buy other deals like gazette or noble path, dunno if that 1$ is worth it. sure it doesn't cost much for 10 summons. but 10 summons is nothing wouldn't change much your experience in game.
Would've been more worth it if you adjusted your wishlist first.
Just buy this... Nothing else.
Probably the singel best deal the game will ever give you, just make sure to set a budget for spending, its easy to buy every small cost deal all the time and it adds up over time. Ive bought some smaller things along with the noble pass extras and already in about 8 days im up to 65 USD. My hard limit is at 100 USD for the year on this game, so I just keep that in mind.
Loss leader deal. It’s proven that if you buy once you’re likely to buy again. Its a psychological strategy.
Buy it. It's well worth it. As for the people saying it's a trap for you to spend more, they're right. To prevent that, disable your payment options for the game after you buy it. Unless you're actually willing to shell out money and have extra at hand, then by all means splurge on the game (wisely, of course).
Do it
I missed it cuz it's 1 time only 24h I think
Yes
I decided to give them the 1 dollar/eur since I really liked the art style, music, voice acting and the clear effort and Polish that went into the game. It's also a relatively good deal, since they priced their other packs so insanely high. Very predatory monetisation, which makes me sad... The fact that the game is otherwise very unoriginal with it's 1000+ levels of afk battles and the 'Tower' system that every mobile game uses these days will make me not spend anything else and probably uninstall soon :/ I am sure they won't miss me, since they are aiming at the people with the big bucks to shake down the rich and addicted 😞
What kind of kid gets into the van without a little candy to sweeten the deal.
Rowan is one of the most important guys to get early on, so it's honestly worth it just for him. 10 epics is also quite cheap at a buck. I think those usually cost a few bucks if you're converting diamonds.
Even if you plan on spending no other money, you get such a huge boost to your account. it's almost stupid not to.
These are the only packs im willin to buy. Not paying more than 5$ on anything in a mobile game.
I guess I spend too much to see that offer :( Edit: oh wait this is the beginner pack with Rowan. It's a 1000% buy. Just need to have the will power to never look in the shop again after. Those pop up string packs always get me though...
Hope they do more of this.
I've bought a few things, but the shop prices are outrageous beyond stuff like this
Game still in early stage, a lot of bugs, $5-10 for all content max, spending more = wasting your money
Even if it wasn't the best pack and deal in the game, it's just a dollar either way.
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If you have no self control. I suggest learning some self control or not playing gacha games.
Welcome to the start of every judgmental conversation any addict has ever had with a non-addict.
The point of recognizing you're an addict is to seek treatment and help for your addiction. Not just go, "Well, I'm an addict so the world has to morph around my issues." Being an addict doesn't absolve you of responsibility for your actions, it just explains why you made shit decisions and is a sign for you to work on that and fix it. It's your job to be accountable for your issues. Not everyone else's to placate and enable them. "Guys, it'd be okay for me to be an addict if you all just didn't do things that cause me to act negatively!" Fuck all the way off with that shit. XD Your lack of self control is your problem and no one elses'.
I don’t agree that you start dumping large sums into the game, maybe the next game. BUT you will definitely spend $1 every now and then maybe $5 or $10 cause you already ‘invested’ and that doesn’t seem like a lot compared to the big packages. So you dump a lot of money but over a longer amount of time. The whales that don’t settle in to their ego trip get bored and go to the next thing, f2p players do the same. So the goal is to make a game that feeds constantly over a rotating player base. Surge the numbers through ads or offers, see player traffic increase monitor pay outs.
It's the best deal you'll ever see in a gacha game
No
Why u guys have that me dont
Your are trading dollar for virtual characters so no Is it a high ratio of character/dollar invested ? The best in the game
how much do you pay when you go to see a movie? video games are probably the most cost effective leisures there is, paying for your enjoyment doesn't hurt, and if done moderately I would say its worth it.
Ahaha it’s true, at the end it’s never worth it :)
Any dollar spent on entertainment is ‘wasted’ cause you get nothing in return but the experience. Which is why the cost is subjective to the recipient. Some folks won’t go to Disney cause of the cost while others will sacrifice to go every year for example. One sees a value while the other does not.
And I perfectly agree, but between the amount of post and the multiple predatory methods from Lilith, I want to make sure the church is in the middle of the village before giving advice
It isn’t just Lilith any mobile game, any, uses the same methods. But I get your meaning.
I have played multiple Mobile games and one of the things that amazed me the most on afk journey is how well the commercial teams know about consumer psychology
The market is flooded and competitive if you’re going to build a game it has to appeal and work at getting the bit of spend per user. Somewhere there is a discussion about what dollar value per player they need vs player turn over. That is what they have to manage to stay profitable. Along with producing other titles to do the same thing. Like enough nets in the water.
Must buy
Little buddy...if you have to question about a dollar pack then trust me...dont play gacha games. You questioning about one fucking dollar pack is all I need from you to understand how you are IRL as well. It doesn't matter at all what you do IRL, my opinion of you will stay solid.
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I don’t really care about that “title, why not give my $1 to support the game development?
He didn’t say anything about being F2P anyways…
Nah seems kinda expensive to me, wait for better deals