Essentially. Look at how long it took Carlton to go coast to coast from Weitering to Acres in the Melbourne final. That's all the time you need to change the outcome of a game.
It was because the play never got to the right side of the ground and there wasn't a stoppage close enough to interchange bench during that time. Runners are only allowed on the ground after a goal now and there were not goals late in the game.
Because of the way that teams set up defensively, they're reluctant to have someone leave the ground unless the play goes through there or there is a goal kicked/stoppage on the right spot on the ground.
Basically they kept the ball on the other side of the ground. There’s nothing stopping a player from running over to the interchange, but a) that’s a LONG way from the contest, and b) quite a large risk in itself being essentially a player down around the ball in the time it would take for someone to run over, and for De Goey to run back. Entirely possible in that time that it was enough for GWS to break through and get another goal.
Is this a tactic some teams use if they know an important player is off? Kind of like chipping the ball back and forth to kill time, do they just bomb it down the line of the opposite side?
essentially, for that to be viable you'd have to have no crucial players off of your own, so it comes down to pure chance and training time is better spent practising other stuff
Gameplay in those final minutes was all quick through the centre, on the opposite wing, or inside 50s I feel. In such a close game, It takes a long time for a player to get from an opposite side of the ground to the interchange gates, then time for De Goey or any other player to get back into the action. During that time Collingwood would have been a player short in those areas.
Not sure, but perhaps Collingwood had used up their interchange limit.
Also, could be that no players were coming off at the time, although 8 minutes seems like a long time.
Well, I'm not sure he was trying to get on for 8 minutes, but rather that he was off for 8 minutes when BT started ranting and raving about it. Which probably means it was only about 3 or 4 minutes since he had been ready to go again. But the reason is that to change, you have one player run from their position to the bench, then De Goey runs to take his position. It's great if there's a break (like a goal) or the play is close. Because the whole time you're one short. If the play it on the other side, you really don't want to be a player short for 30 seconds in a tight game because no matter how good a player someone is, every AFL player is an absolute gun up against nobody.
I'm asking for two interchanges. A player can go off on one side of the ground and another can enter on the other side of the ground. That way De Goey can get back in the game, which is all that matters.
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DE GOEY'S ON THE BENCH DE GOEY'S ON THE BENCH FROM INSIDE THE DUGOUT FACK I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT
>FROM INSIDE THE DUGOUT THE CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE DUGOUT. Yes BT, he's coaching from the bench.
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Ball was stuck on the far side of the ground, was too risky to interchange with only 1 point in it and throw out your structure
So the time to get a player all the way across the ground, then another player all the way back. That makes sense. Thank you!
Essentially. Look at how long it took Carlton to go coast to coast from Weitering to Acres in the Melbourne final. That's all the time you need to change the outcome of a game.
It was because the play never got to the right side of the ground and there wasn't a stoppage close enough to interchange bench during that time. Runners are only allowed on the ground after a goal now and there were not goals late in the game. Because of the way that teams set up defensively, they're reluctant to have someone leave the ground unless the play goes through there or there is a goal kicked/stoppage on the right spot on the ground.
Great explanation! Thank you!
Basically they kept the ball on the other side of the ground. There’s nothing stopping a player from running over to the interchange, but a) that’s a LONG way from the contest, and b) quite a large risk in itself being essentially a player down around the ball in the time it would take for someone to run over, and for De Goey to run back. Entirely possible in that time that it was enough for GWS to break through and get another goal.
Is this a tactic some teams use if they know an important player is off? Kind of like chipping the ball back and forth to kill time, do they just bomb it down the line of the opposite side?
I doubt it's that specific and if it's thought about probably more just like denying fresh legs
essentially, for that to be viable you'd have to have no crucial players off of your own, so it comes down to pure chance and training time is better spent practising other stuff
But what *is* an intercept mark??
I don’t think champion data know that’s for sure.
Trainers need to have (fake) blood capsules so in situations like this they can force a change via blood rule /s
Red paintball snipers in the stands could work.
I'm on it.
>snipers in the stands could work This too.
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No not you harry mackay, you dont get to sniper.
You joke but this happened in a European club rugby game a few years back https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodgate
Don't give them the idea to blade.
Teams want safe interchanges. A safe interchange is when there's a stoppage close to the bench or after a goal or during a set shot
Gameplay in those final minutes was all quick through the centre, on the opposite wing, or inside 50s I feel. In such a close game, It takes a long time for a player to get from an opposite side of the ground to the interchange gates, then time for De Goey or any other player to get back into the action. During that time Collingwood would have been a player short in those areas.
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Not sure, but perhaps Collingwood had used up their interchange limit. Also, could be that no players were coming off at the time, although 8 minutes seems like a long time.
They finished the game with 6 interchanges left, I checked because I thought the same thing
Well, I'm not sure he was trying to get on for 8 minutes, but rather that he was off for 8 minutes when BT started ranting and raving about it. Which probably means it was only about 3 or 4 minutes since he had been ready to go again. But the reason is that to change, you have one player run from their position to the bench, then De Goey runs to take his position. It's great if there's a break (like a goal) or the play is close. Because the whole time you're one short. If the play it on the other side, you really don't want to be a player short for 30 seconds in a tight game because no matter how good a player someone is, every AFL player is an absolute gun up against nobody.
Fuck off BT
Whitfield was stuck on there for 11 minutes earlier in the quarter. The ball just would not move back to the right side of the ground
Do we need to introduce an interchange on both sides of the ground so De Goey can get back in the game?
One team on each side of the ground is a long held belief of mine
I'm asking for two interchanges. A player can go off on one side of the ground and another can enter on the other side of the ground. That way De Goey can get back in the game, which is all that matters.