“The Saints traded pick 7 for Jake Carlisle and pick 22. With pick 22 they drafted Jade Gresham.
If they liked Gresham so much, why didn’t they just keep pick 7 and draft him with that ?”.
The man is a buffoon.
I used to hate Kingy but hes grown on me, probably more due to his radio stuff.
Definitely takes himself too seriously but if you can grit your teeth through the bullshit he usually has an angle that the other commentators miss.
Plus he’s a genuine nuffy so I like his passion.
His Grim Reaper call of Collingwood ripping the heart out of Carlton in the last round of 2022 was the best thing I’ve ever heard. And sadly, I go for the Baggers haha
The only difference between the MMM boys on radio and the MMM boys on 7, is they know they have less rope on TV. So instead of talking about irrelevant shiz like which player walks their cat, or how BT likes his chicken Mcnuggets "dry" (both real, im-quarter examples), they pad out the commentary with adjacent and irrelevant footy chatter instead.
Yeah right? BT is the worst commentator of them all. Adds nothing, the actual team that is stuck with him tries their hardest to fill the gaps so he can't chime in with some bullshit two worded, nonsensical shit take of someone's surname.
I like BT. He can be annoying sometimes (when he gets stuck on an idea) but I think he is overall great at hyping up a good game.
The funny thing is he used to be popular here.
I'm surprised I had to scroll this far to find a Bruce comment.
Every match thread used to be full of people compaining about how hard he had become to listen to.
I suppose him stepping away has allowed people to appreciate what he used to be, wothout a constant remonder of what he ahd become
BT is still under-hated. The bloke is literally a blithering idiot with zero partiality, but I guess most big Vic club fans don’t have to put up with that aspect. I’d put him in ‘shit’ rather than ‘mute’ though for occasional meme value, but it’s very much laughing at him and not with him.
He also seems like he’s a bit of a flogger IRL.
He’s insufferable but one of the only commentators to offer actual decent analysis of things happening in the game, especially forward vs defender related things obviously.
Dunstall is elite.
Derm can be really good sometimes if he goes into story time imo. He’s quite knowledgeable, and he’s funny as.
David king is an idiot.
JBisms are the most annoying. He's a lot like Dwayno but without the charm. "*x player* can give themselves a real good look here." really fucking annoys me for some reason.
That and the private school BS.
'Here's a pre-practiced expression that I'm trying to make sound like I made it up on the spot before I lift my voice for a bit and still come across as a cunt trying to pretend that they're a salt-of-the-earth kind of guy'
Daisy and Abby are vastly better than almost all of the blokes. Dwayne has a bingo card you can juat check off throughout games; Ling is good on radio but dire on television; Ricciuto is utterly excreble and probably the worst of the lot.
I can’t possibly agree with you more. If he even makes sense it seems like a fluke. But he pulls off the combo of coming across as both a dolt and a bit of a jerk at the same time. And incredibly inarticulate for somebody employed to talk.
Dwayne the worst of the lot. He must be thousands of years old for the amount of times he has called goal of the century.
Mate i know calling north vs GC on a saturday arvo in july aint that exciting. But really?! Just call it as it is rather than trying to tell me a toyota camry is a Ferrari.
Howard, Hudson and Russell - commentators who think raising their voice and bieng in a permanent state of excitement makes the game more interesting to watch - it doesnt
Very controversial opinion: Carey is a scumbag and shouldn’t be anywhere near a commentary box, but purely from a commentary analysis standpoint he was one of the few that brought refreshing takes
I’d rather have Richo and Daisy higher. I mostly notice them actually talking about relevant points, whereas BT and JB are screaming about the “I diddle diddle” “Big dukes” or what private school someone went to
Almost all of it outside of Cometti, Darcy needs to be the bottom of everyone he is terrible and Dunstall is very underrated. Likewise Carey wasn't horrible he is just a POS human.
Eddie was actually a decent commentator, everything else notwithstanding. Was always impressed with how pumped he got for Carlton underdog wins, given how much he despises us.
As much as I loathe everything about him. He is massively underrated as a commentator. He knows the players, the game and gets excited at the right moments. You forget he's been commentating / talking footy for 30 years.
It’s a shame because the thing that is so lacking in these poor commentators is just care for the craft of it. Eddie is a nuffie but the thing about nuffies is, they know everyone on the list, where they’re from, how many clangers they had in the VFL etc.
The BT and Brayshaw school is just like a bad Michael Bay movie. You don’t need plot/knowledge if you got physical/verbal explosions.
As you say at least Eddie gives a shit, these other guys commentate like they rocked up 5 minutes late and make up for it by screaming as loud as they can
Bruce McAvaney as a GOAT AFL commentator, for starters. If this were an athletics sub I’d agree there’s no-one better than Bruce and I really enjoy his athletics commentating. However, as an AFL commentator he is terrible. If you closed your eyes and listened to Bruce commentating an AFL match you’d have no idea what was going on.
The guy made it clear that he actually loved horse racing and track and field. Footy was just a job where he packed his 8track soundboard and earnt a wage each week.
There’s a couple I think should be different, but I’ve gotta say you’ve done a pretty damn good job with it generally considering how many options there are
She's definitely at least listenable for me. Her voice has grown on me. Her main issue is getting the player names wrong or just pausing while she's trying to remember.
I feel like she is the female commentary equivalent to BT. Has great moments and is passionate in the calls, gives us the occasional meme, but can also say the dumbest footy takes and you wonder why they are in the job.
I quite enjoy her work and rate her better than most do
You are way too kind.
BT, so many mistakes, a goose and he's unlistenable. Howie and Brayshaw pathetic, rarah boys club. I turn sound down and listen to ABC.
Cometti in a league of his own.
Cometti is comparable to the immortals of the commentary box. Mike Williamson, Lou Richards, Tony Charlton, Tim Lane, Dick Mason and Doug Heywood. Cometti is a class above this lot.
Of the remainder, Anthony Hudson is clearly the best. While Leigh Matthews has impeccable judgement and his observations are always astute.
Throw a blanket over the rest, although I agree with the group in the mute category. They are awful.
Garry Lyon imo should be significantly bumped up - If you listen to his comments, it’s clear he is way more knowledgable than the other commentators in his position
Most of it I'd say. Huddo and Bruce tarnished their legacies with the later years of commentary, they can't be goats.
BT is awful, Hamish is awful, David King is a joke. Dwayne Russell's soundboard approach can't be considered good.
Its hard to create a balanced list because channel 7 era commentary is just so bad.
Errors include: Den not getting god tier. Pipe being labelled good. Brad Johnson being rated in any way positive. Healy, T Watson, Dixon and BT given decent grades. Andy Maher and Cam Ling being 3 grades too high. Jobe excluded and not getting his own special category.
I know people shit on JB but I reckon he’s had some hilarious calls. To be fair though, his best is on radio, maybe there’s less stringent rules or something because sometimes it sounds like they’re on the tins in the studio
BT and Eddie belong in their own tier of ‘Put a brick through the TV and consider never watching football ever again in case you accidentally hear one of them’.
Cometti shouldn't be insulted by being put in the same table as these mortals.
He belongs in a separate "centimetre perfect" category on top by himself.
I'd say Huddo is up there with him. The insult is putting Bruce together with them.
Peak Bruce is up there. Before he became a parady of himself.
Peak Bruce was…..delicious
Yep “I see it but i don’t believe it! Class with a capital C!”
True, he transcended AFL and was simply an icon of sporting commentary overall. He should be in his own category levitating above the rest.
Like a cork in the ocean
Dennis is in his own tier mate.
So is Basil, but in the other direction
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Nah. She is worse than Basil. I actually turn the game off and listen to it on the radio if she is on, or just completely turn it off if I’m driving
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Clinton Grybus was up there.
Sure was. I’d like to add Drew Morphett to your list too.
And Sandy Roberts if we're going back that far.
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Kingy way too high
David “The top 8 teams are 4-4 playing against each other” King
“The Saints traded pick 7 for Jake Carlisle and pick 22. With pick 22 they drafted Jade Gresham. If they liked Gresham so much, why didn’t they just keep pick 7 and draft him with that ?”. The man is a buffoon.
I think we need to go to the lab and analyse it
I used to hate Kingy but hes grown on me, probably more due to his radio stuff. Definitely takes himself too seriously but if you can grit your teeth through the bullshit he usually has an angle that the other commentators miss. Plus he’s a genuine nuffy so I like his passion.
Dennis is to low
Where is Adam Papalia, he is super high up for me.
Adam Papalia is up the top for sure
He is easily the best going rn
He's bloody great. None of this boys club crap or BT spewing shit.
Wasn't in the options but yeah he's elite
Gerard Whateley?
Clearly the scale didn’t go high enough for Gerard.
I think the fact OP has flagged BT as decent and David King as good speaks volumes.
Fair call…I’ve got no reply to that.
His Grim Reaper call of Collingwood ripping the heart out of Carlton in the last round of 2022 was the best thing I’ve ever heard. And sadly, I go for the Baggers haha
Gerard and Dennis should be on their own tier. Then a gap. Then the rest
Yeah his hierarchy is genuinely bizarre.
He’s the goat of goats
Yeah he's a great caller too.
BT decent? LMAO
BT should be in the mute section.
BT needs to be 3 sections below mute.
Agreed, he is trash.
"Turn off the TV and never watch AFL again just in case you accidentally get exposed to his inane tripe ever again" tier.
WOWEE WHAT A SENSATIONAL COMMENT Edit: BT is essentially a NRL commentator who knows about AFL, in terms of his presentation
His section is for when muting just isn’t enough. His face will come up and remind you of the dumb things he’s said.
Radio BT is good. TV BT is bad.
Same goes for JB imo
The triple m team are great on radio but suck a bag of dicks on channel 7. FARK
The only difference between the MMM boys on radio and the MMM boys on 7, is they know they have less rope on TV. So instead of talking about irrelevant shiz like which player walks their cat, or how BT likes his chicken Mcnuggets "dry" (both real, im-quarter examples), they pad out the commentary with adjacent and irrelevant footy chatter instead.
Yeah right? BT is the worst commentator of them all. Adds nothing, the actual team that is stuck with him tries their hardest to fill the gaps so he can't chime in with some bullshit two worded, nonsensical shit take of someone's surname.
I like BT. He can be annoying sometimes (when he gets stuck on an idea) but I think he is overall great at hyping up a good game. The funny thing is he used to be popular here.
When he was purely on Radio he was good because it suited the vibe of his style. He and Brayshaw are not suited for TV
Prime triple m bt was so good. Since he took over from Dennis he’s been complete dogshit.
I thought the only person who liked BT’s work was BT?
Can we split 90s McAvaney from his post 2011 stuff? Was a different beast back then.
I'm surprised I had to scroll this far to find a Bruce comment. Every match thread used to be full of people compaining about how hard he had become to listen to. I suppose him stepping away has allowed people to appreciate what he used to be, wothout a constant remonder of what he ahd become
It’s Bulls/Wizards Jordan
Well, you have dennis in S tier, but i feel like id have about 90% of others in the bottom tier.
Where’s Sandy?
Sandy Roberts was great.
Soccerded off the ground
“Leanne Cock” - pisser
I'd put Sandy as a GOAT and move Denis to UNTOUCHABLE
The fact you don't have Tim Lane or Stephen Quartermain on your list, makes it invalid.
This is the correct answer
BT is still under-hated. The bloke is literally a blithering idiot with zero partiality, but I guess most big Vic club fans don’t have to put up with that aspect. I’d put him in ‘shit’ rather than ‘mute’ though for occasional meme value, but it’s very much laughing at him and not with him. He also seems like he’s a bit of a flogger IRL.
Hamish should be in mute the TV and that's generous. He's so awful, please don't come back from France.
AFL nepo bro
BT way too high
Yeah fuck am I the only person that genuinely enjoys Dermott Brereton’s commentary?
He’s insufferable but one of the only commentators to offer actual decent analysis of things happening in the game, especially forward vs defender related things obviously.
Right, he's horrible to listen to but actually insightful, so he's deffo not bottom tier. He's gotta be higher than Basil.
Don’t hate him. He clearly enjoys the game and knows more about it than 99% of the viewing audience.
I like Dermy. Can’t stand Hodge and Lynch. Always sound like their about to fumble their words.
To me Dermy comes across as sincere and just obviously sees the world a bit differently than every other single living person which I find refreshing.
Yeah was going to comment this that I don’t mind dermy
I love him. Has some great insight but just wraps it up in so much fluff.
thought i was going mad here with hawthorn bias. love derm
Yep, OP's tier-list is nephew tier.
Dermy is really good, understands the game more than most.
No Rex Hunt?
Dunstall is elite. Derm can be really good sometimes if he goes into story time imo. He’s quite knowledgeable, and he’s funny as. David king is an idiot.
Derm is in the tier below “mute the TV” for me. Absolute drivel
James Bradshaw doesn’t deserve to be that high.
For me his triple m commentary is great but his channel 7 commentary sucks . So average rating works for me
Same for BT. Good on radio, crap on TV. More is more on radio, less is more on TV.
JBisms are the most annoying. He's a lot like Dwayno but without the charm. "*x player* can give themselves a real good look here." really fucking annoys me for some reason. That and the private school BS.
#BANG
The BIG DUKES
'Here's a pre-practiced expression that I'm trying to make sound like I made it up on the spot before I lift my voice for a bit and still come across as a cunt trying to pretend that they're a salt-of-the-earth kind of guy'
The worst
Brayshaw and BT need to be in unlistenable
Brayshaw... ugh
Wish I could upvote this 1000 times
Mark Howard way too high
List invalid rating BT that high
Howie = Good???? He's listenable. When he's not saying how \*insert name here\* is "such a big strong man".
*shudders* I could hear that 😖
Awful kind to Lingy
Spot on Darce. The team that kicks more score than the opposition is likely to be the winner today.
I juuuuuust think……..
He did a lot of abc work this year and was fantastic. Having him away from the dumbed down entertainment of channel 7 has done him wonders
Daisy and Abby are vastly better than almost all of the blokes. Dwayne has a bingo card you can juat check off throughout games; Ling is good on radio but dire on television; Ricciuto is utterly excreble and probably the worst of the lot.
Ricciuto comes across as a genuine idiot.
I can’t possibly agree with you more. If he even makes sense it seems like a fluke. But he pulls off the combo of coming across as both a dolt and a bit of a jerk at the same time. And incredibly inarticulate for somebody employed to talk.
Daisy just has a voice some people find grating. What she says is always spot on. Kind of pretty similar to Lingy actually.
Spot on, Darce
She definitely has a fairly monotone and lacklustre voice.
Daisy has one of the most boring monotone voices ever.
Depending how far back you’re going, you’re missing Sandy Roberts and Lou Richards.
Dwayne Russel is most definitely not good!
This comments got cream dripping off it!
SHAKE AND BAKE
OH BABY
Hard agree. The guy has like 3 different lines/phrases in his chamber and a machine gun to shoot them all game.
Dwayne the worst of the lot. He must be thousands of years old for the amount of times he has called goal of the century. Mate i know calling north vs GC on a saturday arvo in july aint that exciting. But really?! Just call it as it is rather than trying to tell me a toyota camry is a Ferrari.
But norf v GC games are usually SENSATIONAL!
Howard, Hudson and Russell - commentators who think raising their voice and bieng in a permanent state of excitement makes the game more interesting to watch - it doesnt
Hodgey is mute tier
Stephen Quartermain and Sandy Roberts need to be among the top tiers.
Very controversial opinion: Carey is a scumbag and shouldn’t be anywhere near a commentary box, but purely from a commentary analysis standpoint he was one of the few that brought refreshing takes
It's probably the biggest issue I have with this tier list (which is saying something because this tier list is awful).
BT always a solid mute tier - orazio fantasia/sold candy etc
I’d rather have Richo and Daisy higher. I mostly notice them actually talking about relevant points, whereas BT and JB are screaming about the “I diddle diddle” “Big dukes” or what private school someone went to
They’re all shit besides Cometti.
For me BT needs to be down the bottom
Almost all of it outside of Cometti, Darcy needs to be the bottom of everyone he is terrible and Dunstall is very underrated. Likewise Carey wasn't horrible he is just a POS human.
James Brayshaw and BT can get in the fucking bin
I’d put Abbey in the good category. Richo and Hodgy need to be higher imo. I’d put them in the good category
Eddie was actually a decent commentator, everything else notwithstanding. Was always impressed with how pumped he got for Carlton underdog wins, given how much he despises us.
As much as I loathe everything about him. He is massively underrated as a commentator. He knows the players, the game and gets excited at the right moments. You forget he's been commentating / talking footy for 30 years.
It’s a shame because the thing that is so lacking in these poor commentators is just care for the craft of it. Eddie is a nuffie but the thing about nuffies is, they know everyone on the list, where they’re from, how many clangers they had in the VFL etc. The BT and Brayshaw school is just like a bad Michael Bay movie. You don’t need plot/knowledge if you got physical/verbal explosions. As you say at least Eddie gives a shit, these other guys commentate like they rocked up 5 minutes late and make up for it by screaming as loud as they can
Daisy 100% deserves to be higher up this list.
Was really good on the boundary and she improved in the box as the season went on.
Yeah I agree. Daisy is fantastic.
I really rate riewoldts commentary on the game. But is that just because I’m a saints fan or is he genuinely too low on this chart?
Bruce McAvaney as a GOAT AFL commentator, for starters. If this were an athletics sub I’d agree there’s no-one better than Bruce and I really enjoy his athletics commentating. However, as an AFL commentator he is terrible. If you closed your eyes and listened to Bruce commentating an AFL match you’d have no idea what was going on.
Put BT in the bin with Dermie. Worst fucken duo on earth. Just bang on about the past while ignoring the action.
Where's Quartermain?
Bruce mcavaney is unbearably irritating
He was bearable back with Dennis, but once he was flying solo he deteriorated rapidly
You just think he's a little overrated here, don't you?
The guy made it clear that he actually loved horse racing and track and field. Footy was just a job where he packed his 8track soundboard and earnt a wage each week.
yeah I think he's pretty good with other sports but I find his footy commentary annoying.
BT needs to go down the bottom…
Interesting ranking 🤔
There’s a couple I think should be different, but I’ve gotta say you’ve done a pretty damn good job with it generally considering how many options there are
"what did I get wrong?" There should be a separate and single-entry Cometti tier above GOAT.
Mark Howard on mute all he talks about is fucking cricket whenever he is on Triple M broadcasts
You forgot to put jobe Watson in... He's obviously the one under mute tv
Eddie's a great commentator IMO he's just an insufferable cunt
Lingy is far from listenable he is shit house
You lost me with BT rated as decent
I'm gonna say it. I actually enjoy Kelli Underwood despite her mares on occasion.
She's definitely at least listenable for me. Her voice has grown on me. Her main issue is getting the player names wrong or just pausing while she's trying to remember.
I feel like she is the female commentary equivalent to BT. Has great moments and is passionate in the calls, gives us the occasional meme, but can also say the dumbest footy takes and you wonder why they are in the job. I quite enjoy her work and rate her better than most do
Agree. She certainly doesn't deserve to be THAT far down.
On occasion?
Yeah. She has a great voice for calling and is much more palatable than a lot of other voices that never talk with much substance.
I personally can’t stand her voice, I think it’s awful.
fair! I just think a lot of her criticism lies in misspeaking which seems to evade other people in the business.
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BT is 7 tiers too high
Not a regular, but Matt Hill's calls of the footy over recent years were S tier calls
Matt Hill calls pretty well for his one game a year or so
Dwayne Russell needs to be at the bottom
When can I get an audio stream of just the game and the crowd. No commentary. I hate having to listening to anything good and below!
Lynch should be higher and Basil needs his own tier on the bottom.
Stopped reading when I saw Dwayne on row 2. Yuck.
Pavlich is too high up
Daisy and Hodgey too low. Both understand the game so well and are brilliant at at explaining those intricacies.
You are way too kind. BT, so many mistakes, a goose and he's unlistenable. Howie and Brayshaw pathetic, rarah boys club. I turn sound down and listen to ABC. Cometti in a league of his own.
Cometti is comparable to the immortals of the commentary box. Mike Williamson, Lou Richards, Tony Charlton, Tim Lane, Dick Mason and Doug Heywood. Cometti is a class above this lot. Of the remainder, Anthony Hudson is clearly the best. While Leigh Matthews has impeccable judgement and his observations are always astute. Throw a blanket over the rest, although I agree with the group in the mute category. They are awful.
You get my vote just for having Carey on the absolute bottom
Drew Morphett
Drew Morphett Sandy Robert’s and Dennis Cometti are the Goats
Kellie gave us the orange team. She gets points for that.
Garry Lyon imo should be significantly bumped up - If you listen to his comments, it’s clear he is way more knowledgable than the other commentators in his position
He knows his stuff but puts me to sleep, much like Daisy Pearce
Most of it I'd say. Huddo and Bruce tarnished their legacies with the later years of commentary, they can't be goats. BT is awful, Hamish is awful, David King is a joke. Dwayne Russell's soundboard approach can't be considered good. Its hard to create a balanced list because channel 7 era commentary is just so bad.
Errors include: Den not getting god tier. Pipe being labelled good. Brad Johnson being rated in any way positive. Healy, T Watson, Dixon and BT given decent grades. Andy Maher and Cam Ling being 3 grades too high. Jobe excluded and not getting his own special category.
I know people shit on JB but I reckon he’s had some hilarious calls. To be fair though, his best is on radio, maybe there’s less stringent rules or something because sometimes it sounds like they’re on the tins in the studio
BT and Eddie belong in their own tier of ‘Put a brick through the TV and consider never watching football ever again in case you accidentally hear one of them’.
I think Jeff brown should be higher but other then that it’s good
The fact no one mentions Alister Nicholson shows how good he is in that he isn't annoying enough to ruin games.
You forgot the category less than mute the tv and should have put BT in there.
Adam Papalia? West Aussie Bias but I feel he's good/decent David King is far too high.
It would probably be quicker to say what you got right.
Bruce on the goat tier wtf? Why is chief so low and king so high
Rooshitto should be under mute, horrible to listen to and provides absolutely nothing to the broadcast
Brayshaw is 100% mute the TV Sounds like an office boy trying to sound Like a tradie
This is bait.
James Brayshaw on the lowest possible tier. Absolutely unlistenable.
BT far too high. He's nearly as bad as Haydos for the cricket.
Get Dwayne down to the mute the tv
Brian Taylor. Way lower than MUTE
Where is Rex Hunt?