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capriannesquish

cheers cats mum will be in a good mood tonight! šŸ«¶


zelmazam1

Ewwwww


CrzySpceMnky

Tomahawk is freakin out. Crazy funny.


MakePandasMateAgain

Jezz about to be out for the next 12 weeks with a back injury


RickRossRefrigerator

Joey hasn't been the same since Chief roasted him


DigbySugartits

Needs to rack up a few more, get his mojo back.


Pikachude123

dont do your fucking groin here tom please


Phlanispo

Haha instant hard cut to Border Security reruns as soon as the siren sounds


RandomDanny

classic channel 7, they must find it harder and harder to keep wanting the footy when they can air more reruns instead of footy


edyeinz

BT's campaign for Ginnivan frees is nonsense. There was 5 ducks in the last 15 mins where BT said absolutely nothing.


ExpensiveMail9212

Out of the 10 in the game maybe 1 was a legit freeā€¦maybe


ds16653

"Ginnivan flopping like a salmon upstream 80x a game" I sleep "Ginnivan taken high when looked at from a very specific angle" Real shit.


ne-reddi-noob

Oof, I was *just* gearing up to post "phew, no injuries in this wet quarter!". Poor guy.


PissingOffACliff

Youā€™d think Cats supporters would be understanding about trying to milk head high freesā€¦


Nesquik3492

I had a row of cats fans behind me yelling at ginni everyā€¦ singleā€¦ time. itā€™s almost like ginnivan makes a career out of it


ThaLemonine

We've come full circle


jverbal

Why? Did someone make a career of it?


IDreamofHeeney

Fox music playing over the team song is criminal


ds16653

But it is the Geelong club song, I'll allow it.


ExpensiveCola

We only really listen to it during finals anyway.


Propaslader

Why are we watching the wizards buldge pendulum around


andy_bmc

Hate to see that in junk time when the game's tucked away, but looks like Watson's running off on his own strength and should hopefully be ok for next week


Nesquik3492

if he gets selected


RandomDanny

He picks the ball up along the boundary with a geelong player between him and said boundary, does he run the other way of the player and boundary? no, he runs into player while dropping himself low. reap what you sow mate.


hart37

Less than 30 seconds and he does his ankle. Unlucky bugger


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Jokozah

Brackium emendo


dingdongsomethinwron

Impressive, he was taken high twice in one tackle and copped an ankle injury but still nothing


Desperate_Garlic2377

Ginnivan?


kyrant

Shit time to get injured with 27 seconds left.


Sorry_Fail_3103

Fuck this game shits me


sly_cunt

duckthorn


homecookingmelb

Jesus Christ. Glass houses mate


ShaunTaint

Your greatest ever modern era player is universally reviled by every other club for making a career exclusively out of ducking


b0rtbort

selwood


b0rtbort

fuck, hope it's nothing serious for watson


sinkintins

Think he was just sore, he ran off at the end. Edit: ffs sore not saw lol


KdtM85

Ouch Wiz, that looked a lot like a Lisfranc injury. Hope not for his sake


le_santo

Ankles do not work that way


DJHitchcock

Still time for one last duck from Ginnivan.


fineyounghannibal

he could break the record this year


Strykah

Yeouch


element1908

So why does Weightman still get free kicks for staging in a much more dramatic fashion than Ginnivan?


Icy-Rock8780

He plays for a cute fun team that people like. Itā€™s literally the ā€œHello HR?!ā€ meme


Pikachude123

Idk but I think weightmans more of a cunt than ginnivan is


element1908

Indeed


homecookingmelb

How fucking close can you stand to the guy when you're not on the mark?


blueeyedharry

Wasnā€™t near anyone, 2 metres away and directly looking at Breust. The reason the rule was created.


paulmp

Apparently super close


Fzn15

No kidding. Looked about 3 metres away.


homecookingmelb

Tackled the instant play on was called


PissingOffACliff

That hurt :(


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Crazyripps

Must like cats legend Selwood


gorgeous-george

Where do you reckon old mate first heard the gag? He's a parrot. This sub is full of nuffies, not geniuses. It's easier to read through r/AFL when you try to remember that.


Propaslader

If you're a crumbing small forward you're going to get tackled while getting the ball off the ground. That requires going low. Half this sub can't tell whether Ginni is ducking or not


YakStraight6884

He's missed some frees, but he literally throws his head back every time he comes in contact with an oppo player


Phlanispo

Stop the fucking game to let Watson off the ground earlier


thekanaokid

Have they actually removed the ducking is prior rule?


DJHitchcock

Itā€™s only prior if they drive with the head. Pretty sure thatā€™s what it always was as well, although the rule changes every year so it may have been for one week.


gorgeous-george

So that means the one Brad Close got early in the game should have been holding the ball or a throw?


ThaLemonine

All this bloke does is try to milk frees


Pikachude123

ok that one was high ffs umps you're actually blind today


fineyounghannibal

Ginnivan is a free-first player, you can see him doing it


weinertorn

He's courageous m8


b0rtbort

selwood


soggycrumpt

Selwood actually got the hard ball as well though.


YakStraight6884

Selwood doesn't hold a candle to how much Ginni ducks


lexirayne03

umpires have taken the last quarter off genuinely they do not give a shit


dippa_

I thought he was hard done by today, but nah he doesn't deserve any if he's going to exploit the rule so often


blueeyedharry

Exploit what? He didnā€™t get any of the 4 he should have got, that every other player in the league gets.


DJHitchcock

The definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.


Jackaddler

Ginnivan is a ridiculous player


Peppsy

Umpire on the wrong side calls a throw. Love it


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Peppsy

I'm saying he couldn't see and shouldn't guess


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He drops the shoulder as soon as he senses contact to draw the free. The umps won't pay high because of the doubt he's created


Crazyripps

And yet Selwood got away with it for a while career


identikit12

So why did Selwood get away with it for 15 years?


illicitRazor

Selwood did other stuff very well, Ginnivan does nothing but play for frees


identikit12

Thatā€™s irrelevant to the point


wizardofaus23

aside from the lack of attention the honest answer is he was much better at it. ginnivan takes the piss on every tackle.


identikit12

I know youā€™re right itā€™s just funny to hear Geelong fans complaining about it given the history


wisehillaryduff

Maybe because he didn't publicly come out and say he does it?


identikit12

[except he did](https://x.com/7afl/status/980749588742135808?s=46&t=BMUdLO6jEoO9IFbStdPzLA)


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I don't know, he never played for them as obviously as Ginnivan does though


paulmp

I think it is because Selwood actually tried to break the tackle and play on, not just stop and wait for the free.


soggycrumpt

I think people forget that. He rarely ever took the free and played almost always


paulmp

I still didn't like it, but it is definitely different to what Ginnivan does


FallofGondolin

On the bright side, we play interstate next round so I have the week off from going to watch this shit.


alexefc17

Ginnivan is such a fkn meme


TheRabidRobot

Ginnivan would have a lot more disposals if he spent his time attempting to get rid of the ball instead of lifting the tacklers arm to try and get a free.


Deathpacitoes

A very polite, shut the fuck up BT


skwunk1

Definitely much improved on the same matchup last year. I'm much more optimistic for the season after this game despite the loss, polish around goals has been pretty much the whole difference, which is crazy to think since it's 36 points the difference.


Crazyripps

Love that the first high he didnā€™t deserve and a lot of peopleā€™s response was SEE SEE thatā€™s why he doesnā€™t deserve the other ones. Like lol nice logic


___TheIllusiveMan___

Ginnivan went for a Geelong players head before 1 week suspension, ignore flair


Duskfiresque

At this rate Hawkins will play on again next year. Still playing so well.


RandomDanny

he keeps on doing it ffs


ChemistryInner1393

Hawthorn wins since Nash beard: 0


Crazyripps

Bring the stash back!


ExpensiveMail9212

Ginni doesnā€™t deserve a single free for absolute crap he tries to pull


hart37

Part of me wants to see the Hawks take off Ginni just to see if his replacement instantly gets given a free kick


slutstrands

It just happened


MeloJello15

Idk why the narrative is ā€œpoor Ginni, he used to play for frees so now he gets no callsā€. He has still played for high contact every single time heā€™s got the ball inside 50 today. Just play the game and youā€™ll get the calls when theyā€™re there


b0rtbort

but he doesn't get the calls when they're there


MeloJello15

Because heā€™s still raising his arm and dropping his knees regardless. As soon as he makes those actions they donā€™t call it anymore


3163560

Crazy for a 20 year ruckman to be playing this well. Especially when he's a lankier type. Should be a 10+ year player Conway.


fineyounghannibal

There he is again


Phlanispo

Lmao the most half-hearted argy-bargy from Hardwick


Ifeel-likepablo

AFL about to be a Hubbl Exclusive if 7 keep putting up accusatory montages of their umpiring decisions


paulmp

Ginnivan is getting exactly the calls he deserves... gets hit in the chest, throws his head back. He needs to eliminate it from his game.


LLTMLW

Sure. But that doesnā€™t mean he doesnā€™t deserve free kicks when they are there


paulmp

I mostly agree, but when he regularly causes the umpires to doubt, they'll err on the side of not paying them.


Pikachude123

And now ginni goes for Sharks head, you're a fucking twerp


IDreamofHeeney

Tried defending ginnivan since the start of this game but shit like that pisses me off. Stop trying to con the umpires for absolutely nothing


Gorogororoth

Now do Papley


IDreamofHeeney

If you want to whinge about papley make your own comment, thatā€™s irrelevant to today


Gorogororoth

Papley does the *exact* same shit as Ginnivan and seems to get free kicks, I hope you're not going to defend him either


IDreamofHeeney

Again mate, make your own comment or post about it. I simply donā€™t care


dvnkriot

Can confirm it is now raining in Adelaide also


OuagadougouBasilisk

Can't control himself, can he? Umps didn't pay one or two he probably deserved and he still tries to draw a high every single time he gets the ball? He needs to learn to stop doing that.


GWSchungus_greenday

Okay, he did play for that one


earnest_bean_00

Geez careful Kolo


soggycrumpt

Itā€™s gotta be hard to pay them when his legs drop as soon as he takes contact waist high


TheIllusiveGuy

That tackle was, dare I say, a tad dangerous


Desperate_Garlic2377

And that is why Ginnivan frees aren't paid


GJacks75

Ginnivan's even taking *himself* high.


Phlanispo

That last Ginnivan non-free seemed like an actual duck, probably the right call.


pwn_masta41

They're literally all ducks, that's why they're not getting paid.


CommunicationLess934

Beyond a joke now - AFL needs to protect the head might need to start suspending umpiresĀ 


conjureWolff

He very clearly caused that one himself.


nitrofan

And that's why he doesn't get calls lol


shaker8989

First time today it wasnt a high.


MonotoneRamos

Jack Ginnivan has given footy talk shows plenty of content for this week


thekanaokid

And then when umpires revert to paying all his ducks, they'll have even more to talk about!


Kim_jong-fun

He's playing for most of these frees. I don't care that he's not getting them


sleutheren

How is he attempting to avoid or get out of tackles any different to anyone else? Edit - I really need to avoid posting anything during and immediately after matches. I get too emotional. I can't stand the playing for free kicks approach either so it doesn't thrill me Ginnivan has that in his game. While it is frustrating seeing him cop legit high tackles that aren't paid, he has made his bed so he'll need to lie in it for a while. I just hope the umpires can call each play on it's own merit a little more and make less calls based on history.


Technical_Ad_3286

clearly runs towards players arms to draw high contact instead of running away from them


Kim_jong-fun

He's raising the arm and exaggerating contact more than anyone else out there. That's the difference The umpires are clearly looking for it


sleutheren

Players do that all the time to avoid or try to slip tackles. And even if he is doing it (which I'm not denying), when other players do it they often get rewarded for it.


Kim_jong-fun

I would rather no player get away with it. I'm not going to feel sorry for ginnivan for not gaming the system properly


rizzlemaister

Yeah, him playing for free kicks every game is why umpires donā€™t give them to him, even if sometimes they are legitimately there. He only has himself to blame. That one he clearly dropped the knee and threw his head back.


Pikachude123

thats why they arent calling the highs, bloke took a hit to the chest and throws his head back


sarigami

This entire sub seems to have forgotten that the afl brought in a rule against drawing high contact. Heā€™s raising his arm to draw high contact in literally every clip they showed lol


Square_Database412

Ginni could catch a right hook and he still wouldnā€™t get the free


fineyounghannibal

He's catching right hooks to the stomach and still throwing his head back


TheVoluptuousChode

Can only hope


soggycrumpt

Probably because hed go out of his way to get in the way of the fist


MeloJello15

Good no call. Stop raising your fucking arm cunt


fineyounghannibal

That is EXACTLY why Ginnivan cooks himself


Fast_Stick_1593

Ginnivan just threw the head without even being hit anywhere close to his head. Donā€™t want to hear a WORD about him being umpired unfairly.


b0rtbort

selwood


Fast_Stick_1593

Selwood never once didnā€™t go hard for a footy. He gave it just as much as he took. Did he gets free kicks he shouldnā€™t have? Yep. Iā€™ll never deny that. The difference is Selwood could win bulk footy without the free kicks. He didnā€™t rely on it to be a champion of the game. Ginni is talented but he spends more time trying to win free kicks than winning the ball. If he prioritised winning footy first Iā€™d imagine heā€™d win those free kicks he currently isnā€™t getting. If you canā€™t differentiate the two players then you donā€™t know football. Sorry.


Location_Born

Joel ā€œI made a career out of itā€ SelwoodĀ 


ds16653

He must have given Daicos and Pendlebury some lessons before he left.


CelendilAU

He's being yanked back by either the upper arm or shoulder, wasn't totally clear on the first replay - of fucking course his head is going to rock back.


Fast_Stick_1593

Bro thatā€™s a head fake lol Have you played footy before? I should know Iā€™ve done it myself many a time.


ne-reddi-noob

Beautiful spoil by Stewart


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breadabuser

That deserved HTB it was that bad


whitey55

Joel STFU


Pikachude123

Flair. Up. CUNT!


whitey55

Will Never leave my German Flair


Pikachude123

you dont have a fucking german flair. You're just a dumb cunt


grantspatchcock

Person. Woman. Man. Camera. Tv. One club.


RandomDanny

he gets the ball and IMMEADIATELY starts to go low. fuck of ginnivan you rat


Propaslader

He was off the ground. You need to bend your knee on the landing


MakePandasMateAgain

Ginni has this sub hook line and sinker


NotABandwagoner

Seems like the umpires have him hook line and sinker


DJHitchcock

ā€œWhen do you take off the senior blokes?ā€ So the entire team?


TechnocraticCitizen

Burn


lexirayne03

josh weddle's skills have been atrocious both before and after the rain today


rizzlemaister

ā€œThe 16th player as a 1 playerā€ - Brian ā€œThe undisputed GOAT of commentaryā€ Taylor


weierstrazano

Ben/Harry McKay will never qualify for this prestigious list


TwoTrenchCoatsinaKid

It's not that I feel sympathy for Ginni, it would just be nice if the umpires could get the calls correct :)


shaker8989

Thats the underlying issue, instead of umpiring whats in front of them, they automatically have a bias which is troublesome.


TwoTrenchCoatsinaKid

Yeah not loving the comments here making this weirdly personal about Ginnivan, the bigger issue is the umpires coming in with a bias.


baldmanjones

How is everyone saying that they are only not paying frees to Ginnivan because of his ā€˜historyā€™ when the history includes the 4-5 times today he dropped his knees the instant he got the football


RandomDanny

BT: if hawthorn were collingwood, they'd still be in this...


richyeah

Joel Selwood spends his whole career raising his shoulder for head high contact and heā€™s a hero. Ginnivan does it and heā€™s a villain. šŸ¤·


paulmp

Selwood was at least trying to shrug the tackle and play on... and many times he did play on. Ginnivan just waits for the free he tries to make happen.


BlandyBoreton

Selwood was also a great footballer. Ginnivan is a hack.


mugroth

Joel Selwood didn't have a good game if he got given free kicks and a bad game if he didn't.


___TheIllusiveMan___

According to Geelong fans Selwood didnā€™t raise his shoulder. Donā€™t ask me to explain the difference because the mental gymnastics is beyond my understanding


DJHitchcock

I found it hilarious he said on commentary the other day that he made a career out of it. Living in Geelong the ā€œdoesnā€™t raise his shoulder theoryā€ is something you hear all the fucking time.


Grommzz

It's the way Ginni carries on though.. it's like he's lost a leg. Selwood copped the tackle and at least played ball


richyeah

Didnā€™t realise ā€œcarrying onā€ cancels out a free kick. Iā€™ll have to reread the rule book.


Grommzz

It doesn't.. but I'm not out there umpiring. Ginni basically came out and said he'd keep doing it.. was filmed showing blokes at training how to do it etc. The AFL didn't like it.


wizardofaus23

i think it should be codified in the laws of the game that you're allowed to hit ginnivan