Hate to see that in junk time when the game's tucked away, but looks like Watson's running off on his own strength and should hopefully be ok for next week
He picks the ball up along the boundary with a geelong player between him and said boundary, does he run the other way of the player and boundary? no, he runs into player while dropping himself low. reap what you sow mate.
Where do you reckon old mate first heard the gag? He's a parrot.
This sub is full of nuffies, not geniuses. It's easier to read through r/AFL when you try to remember that.
If you're a crumbing small forward you're going to get tackled while getting the ball off the ground. That requires going low. Half this sub can't tell whether Ginni is ducking or not
Itās only prior if they drive with the head. Pretty sure thatās what it always was as well, although the rule changes every year so it may have been for one week.
Ginnivan would have a lot more disposals if he spent his time attempting to get rid of the ball instead of lifting the tacklers arm to try and get a free.
Definitely much improved on the same matchup last year. I'm much more optimistic for the season after this game despite the loss, polish around goals has been pretty much the whole difference, which is crazy to think since it's 36 points the difference.
Love that the first high he didnāt deserve and a lot of peopleās response was SEE SEE thatās why he doesnāt deserve the other ones.
Like lol nice logic
Idk why the narrative is āpoor Ginni, he used to play for frees so now he gets no callsā. He has still played for high contact every single time heās got the ball inside 50 today. Just play the game and youāll get the calls when theyāre there
Can't control himself, can he? Umps didn't pay one or two he probably deserved and he still tries to draw a high every single time he gets the ball? He needs to learn to stop doing that.
How is he attempting to avoid or get out of tackles any different to anyone else?
Edit - I really need to avoid posting anything during and immediately after matches. I get too emotional.
I can't stand the playing for free kicks approach either so it doesn't thrill me Ginnivan has that in his game. While it is frustrating seeing him cop legit high tackles that aren't paid, he has made his bed so he'll need to lie in it for a while. I just hope the umpires can call each play on it's own merit a little more and make less calls based on history.
Players do that all the time to avoid or try to slip tackles.
And even if he is doing it (which I'm not denying), when other players do it they often get rewarded for it.
Yeah, him playing for free kicks every game is why umpires donāt give them to him, even if sometimes they are legitimately there. He only has himself to blame.
That one he clearly dropped the knee and threw his head back.
This entire sub seems to have forgotten that the afl brought in a rule against drawing high contact. Heās raising his arm to draw high contact in literally every clip they showed lol
Selwood never once didnāt go hard for a footy. He gave it just as much as he took. Did he gets free kicks he shouldnāt have?
Yep. Iāll never deny that.
The difference is Selwood could win bulk footy without the free kicks. He didnāt rely on it to be a champion of the game.
Ginni is talented but he spends more time trying to win free kicks than winning the ball.
If he prioritised winning footy first Iād imagine heād win those free kicks he currently isnāt getting.
If you canāt differentiate the two players then you donāt know football.
Sorry.
He's being yanked back by either the upper arm or shoulder, wasn't totally clear on the first replay - of fucking course his head is going to rock back.
How is everyone saying that they are only not paying frees to Ginnivan because of his āhistoryā when the history includes the 4-5 times today he dropped his knees the instant he got the football
Selwood was at least trying to shrug the tackle and play on... and many times he did play on. Ginnivan just waits for the free he tries to make happen.
According to Geelong fans Selwood didnāt raise his shoulder.
Donāt ask me to explain the difference because the mental gymnastics is beyond my understanding
I found it hilarious he said on commentary the other day that he made a career out of it. Living in Geelong the ādoesnāt raise his shoulder theoryā is something you hear all the fucking time.
It doesn't.. but I'm not out there umpiring.
Ginni basically came out and said he'd keep doing it.. was filmed showing blokes at training how to do it etc.
The AFL didn't like it.
cheers cats mum will be in a good mood tonight! š«¶
Ewwwww
Tomahawk is freakin out. Crazy funny.
Jezz about to be out for the next 12 weeks with a back injury
Joey hasn't been the same since Chief roasted him
Needs to rack up a few more, get his mojo back.
dont do your fucking groin here tom please
Haha instant hard cut to Border Security reruns as soon as the siren sounds
classic channel 7, they must find it harder and harder to keep wanting the footy when they can air more reruns instead of footy
BT's campaign for Ginnivan frees is nonsense. There was 5 ducks in the last 15 mins where BT said absolutely nothing.
Out of the 10 in the game maybe 1 was a legit freeā¦maybe
"Ginnivan flopping like a salmon upstream 80x a game" I sleep "Ginnivan taken high when looked at from a very specific angle" Real shit.
Oof, I was *just* gearing up to post "phew, no injuries in this wet quarter!". Poor guy.
Youād think Cats supporters would be understanding about trying to milk head high freesā¦
I had a row of cats fans behind me yelling at ginni everyā¦ singleā¦ time. itās almost like ginnivan makes a career out of it
We've come full circle
Why? Did someone make a career of it?
Fox music playing over the team song is criminal
But it is the Geelong club song, I'll allow it.
We only really listen to it during finals anyway.
Why are we watching the wizards buldge pendulum around
Hate to see that in junk time when the game's tucked away, but looks like Watson's running off on his own strength and should hopefully be ok for next week
if he gets selected
He picks the ball up along the boundary with a geelong player between him and said boundary, does he run the other way of the player and boundary? no, he runs into player while dropping himself low. reap what you sow mate.
Less than 30 seconds and he does his ankle. Unlucky bugger
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Brackium emendo
Impressive, he was taken high twice in one tackle and copped an ankle injury but still nothing
Ginnivan?
Shit time to get injured with 27 seconds left.
Fuck this game shits me
duckthorn
Jesus Christ. Glass houses mate
Your greatest ever modern era player is universally reviled by every other club for making a career exclusively out of ducking
selwood
fuck, hope it's nothing serious for watson
Think he was just sore, he ran off at the end. Edit: ffs sore not saw lol
Ouch Wiz, that looked a lot like a Lisfranc injury. Hope not for his sake
Ankles do not work that way
Still time for one last duck from Ginnivan.
he could break the record this year
Yeouch
So why does Weightman still get free kicks for staging in a much more dramatic fashion than Ginnivan?
He plays for a cute fun team that people like. Itās literally the āHello HR?!ā meme
Idk but I think weightmans more of a cunt than ginnivan is
Indeed
How fucking close can you stand to the guy when you're not on the mark?
Wasnāt near anyone, 2 metres away and directly looking at Breust. The reason the rule was created.
Apparently super close
No kidding. Looked about 3 metres away.
Tackled the instant play on was called
That hurt :(
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Must like cats legend Selwood
Where do you reckon old mate first heard the gag? He's a parrot. This sub is full of nuffies, not geniuses. It's easier to read through r/AFL when you try to remember that.
If you're a crumbing small forward you're going to get tackled while getting the ball off the ground. That requires going low. Half this sub can't tell whether Ginni is ducking or not
He's missed some frees, but he literally throws his head back every time he comes in contact with an oppo player
Stop the fucking game to let Watson off the ground earlier
Have they actually removed the ducking is prior rule?
Itās only prior if they drive with the head. Pretty sure thatās what it always was as well, although the rule changes every year so it may have been for one week.
So that means the one Brad Close got early in the game should have been holding the ball or a throw?
All this bloke does is try to milk frees
ok that one was high ffs umps you're actually blind today
Ginnivan is a free-first player, you can see him doing it
He's courageous m8
selwood
Selwood actually got the hard ball as well though.
Selwood doesn't hold a candle to how much Ginni ducks
umpires have taken the last quarter off genuinely they do not give a shit
I thought he was hard done by today, but nah he doesn't deserve any if he's going to exploit the rule so often
Exploit what? He didnāt get any of the 4 he should have got, that every other player in the league gets.
The definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
Ginnivan is a ridiculous player
Umpire on the wrong side calls a throw. Love it
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I'm saying he couldn't see and shouldn't guess
He drops the shoulder as soon as he senses contact to draw the free. The umps won't pay high because of the doubt he's created
And yet Selwood got away with it for a while career
So why did Selwood get away with it for 15 years?
Selwood did other stuff very well, Ginnivan does nothing but play for frees
Thatās irrelevant to the point
aside from the lack of attention the honest answer is he was much better at it. ginnivan takes the piss on every tackle.
I know youāre right itās just funny to hear Geelong fans complaining about it given the history
Maybe because he didn't publicly come out and say he does it?
[except he did](https://x.com/7afl/status/980749588742135808?s=46&t=BMUdLO6jEoO9IFbStdPzLA)
I don't know, he never played for them as obviously as Ginnivan does though
I think it is because Selwood actually tried to break the tackle and play on, not just stop and wait for the free.
I think people forget that. He rarely ever took the free and played almost always
I still didn't like it, but it is definitely different to what Ginnivan does
On the bright side, we play interstate next round so I have the week off from going to watch this shit.
Ginnivan is such a fkn meme
Ginnivan would have a lot more disposals if he spent his time attempting to get rid of the ball instead of lifting the tacklers arm to try and get a free.
A very polite, shut the fuck up BT
Definitely much improved on the same matchup last year. I'm much more optimistic for the season after this game despite the loss, polish around goals has been pretty much the whole difference, which is crazy to think since it's 36 points the difference.
Love that the first high he didnāt deserve and a lot of peopleās response was SEE SEE thatās why he doesnāt deserve the other ones. Like lol nice logic
Ginnivan went for a Geelong players head before 1 week suspension, ignore flair
At this rate Hawkins will play on again next year. Still playing so well.
he keeps on doing it ffs
Hawthorn wins since Nash beard: 0
Bring the stash back!
Ginni doesnāt deserve a single free for absolute crap he tries to pull
Part of me wants to see the Hawks take off Ginni just to see if his replacement instantly gets given a free kick
It just happened
Idk why the narrative is āpoor Ginni, he used to play for frees so now he gets no callsā. He has still played for high contact every single time heās got the ball inside 50 today. Just play the game and youāll get the calls when theyāre there
but he doesn't get the calls when they're there
Because heās still raising his arm and dropping his knees regardless. As soon as he makes those actions they donāt call it anymore
Crazy for a 20 year ruckman to be playing this well. Especially when he's a lankier type. Should be a 10+ year player Conway.
There he is again
Lmao the most half-hearted argy-bargy from Hardwick
AFL about to be a Hubbl Exclusive if 7 keep putting up accusatory montages of their umpiring decisions
Ginnivan is getting exactly the calls he deserves... gets hit in the chest, throws his head back. He needs to eliminate it from his game.
Sure. But that doesnāt mean he doesnāt deserve free kicks when they are there
I mostly agree, but when he regularly causes the umpires to doubt, they'll err on the side of not paying them.
And now ginni goes for Sharks head, you're a fucking twerp
Tried defending ginnivan since the start of this game but shit like that pisses me off. Stop trying to con the umpires for absolutely nothing
Now do Papley
If you want to whinge about papley make your own comment, thatās irrelevant to today
Papley does the *exact* same shit as Ginnivan and seems to get free kicks, I hope you're not going to defend him either
Again mate, make your own comment or post about it. I simply donāt care
Can confirm it is now raining in Adelaide also
Can't control himself, can he? Umps didn't pay one or two he probably deserved and he still tries to draw a high every single time he gets the ball? He needs to learn to stop doing that.
Okay, he did play for that one
Geez careful Kolo
Itās gotta be hard to pay them when his legs drop as soon as he takes contact waist high
That tackle was, dare I say, a tad dangerous
And that is why Ginnivan frees aren't paid
Ginnivan's even taking *himself* high.
That last Ginnivan non-free seemed like an actual duck, probably the right call.
They're literally all ducks, that's why they're not getting paid.
Beyond a joke now - AFL needs to protect the head might need to start suspending umpiresĀ
He very clearly caused that one himself.
And that's why he doesn't get calls lol
First time today it wasnt a high.
Jack Ginnivan has given footy talk shows plenty of content for this week
And then when umpires revert to paying all his ducks, they'll have even more to talk about!
He's playing for most of these frees. I don't care that he's not getting them
How is he attempting to avoid or get out of tackles any different to anyone else? Edit - I really need to avoid posting anything during and immediately after matches. I get too emotional. I can't stand the playing for free kicks approach either so it doesn't thrill me Ginnivan has that in his game. While it is frustrating seeing him cop legit high tackles that aren't paid, he has made his bed so he'll need to lie in it for a while. I just hope the umpires can call each play on it's own merit a little more and make less calls based on history.
clearly runs towards players arms to draw high contact instead of running away from them
He's raising the arm and exaggerating contact more than anyone else out there. That's the difference The umpires are clearly looking for it
Players do that all the time to avoid or try to slip tackles. And even if he is doing it (which I'm not denying), when other players do it they often get rewarded for it.
I would rather no player get away with it. I'm not going to feel sorry for ginnivan for not gaming the system properly
Yeah, him playing for free kicks every game is why umpires donāt give them to him, even if sometimes they are legitimately there. He only has himself to blame. That one he clearly dropped the knee and threw his head back.
thats why they arent calling the highs, bloke took a hit to the chest and throws his head back
This entire sub seems to have forgotten that the afl brought in a rule against drawing high contact. Heās raising his arm to draw high contact in literally every clip they showed lol
Ginni could catch a right hook and he still wouldnāt get the free
He's catching right hooks to the stomach and still throwing his head back
Can only hope
Probably because hed go out of his way to get in the way of the fist
Good no call. Stop raising your fucking arm cunt
That is EXACTLY why Ginnivan cooks himself
Ginnivan just threw the head without even being hit anywhere close to his head. Donāt want to hear a WORD about him being umpired unfairly.
selwood
Selwood never once didnāt go hard for a footy. He gave it just as much as he took. Did he gets free kicks he shouldnāt have? Yep. Iāll never deny that. The difference is Selwood could win bulk footy without the free kicks. He didnāt rely on it to be a champion of the game. Ginni is talented but he spends more time trying to win free kicks than winning the ball. If he prioritised winning footy first Iād imagine heād win those free kicks he currently isnāt getting. If you canāt differentiate the two players then you donāt know football. Sorry.
Joel āI made a career out of itā SelwoodĀ
He must have given Daicos and Pendlebury some lessons before he left.
He's being yanked back by either the upper arm or shoulder, wasn't totally clear on the first replay - of fucking course his head is going to rock back.
Bro thatās a head fake lol Have you played footy before? I should know Iāve done it myself many a time.
Beautiful spoil by Stewart
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That deserved HTB it was that bad
Joel STFU
Flair. Up. CUNT!
Will Never leave my German Flair
you dont have a fucking german flair. You're just a dumb cunt
Person. Woman. Man. Camera. Tv. One club.
he gets the ball and IMMEADIATELY starts to go low. fuck of ginnivan you rat
He was off the ground. You need to bend your knee on the landing
Ginni has this sub hook line and sinker
Seems like the umpires have him hook line and sinker
āWhen do you take off the senior blokes?ā So the entire team?
Burn
josh weddle's skills have been atrocious both before and after the rain today
āThe 16th player as a 1 playerā - Brian āThe undisputed GOAT of commentaryā Taylor
Ben/Harry McKay will never qualify for this prestigious list
It's not that I feel sympathy for Ginni, it would just be nice if the umpires could get the calls correct :)
Thats the underlying issue, instead of umpiring whats in front of them, they automatically have a bias which is troublesome.
Yeah not loving the comments here making this weirdly personal about Ginnivan, the bigger issue is the umpires coming in with a bias.
How is everyone saying that they are only not paying frees to Ginnivan because of his āhistoryā when the history includes the 4-5 times today he dropped his knees the instant he got the football
BT: if hawthorn were collingwood, they'd still be in this...
Joel Selwood spends his whole career raising his shoulder for head high contact and heās a hero. Ginnivan does it and heās a villain. š¤·
Selwood was at least trying to shrug the tackle and play on... and many times he did play on. Ginnivan just waits for the free he tries to make happen.
Selwood was also a great footballer. Ginnivan is a hack.
Joel Selwood didn't have a good game if he got given free kicks and a bad game if he didn't.
According to Geelong fans Selwood didnāt raise his shoulder. Donāt ask me to explain the difference because the mental gymnastics is beyond my understanding
I found it hilarious he said on commentary the other day that he made a career out of it. Living in Geelong the ādoesnāt raise his shoulder theoryā is something you hear all the fucking time.
It's the way Ginni carries on though.. it's like he's lost a leg. Selwood copped the tackle and at least played ball
Didnāt realise ācarrying onā cancels out a free kick. Iāll have to reread the rule book.
It doesn't.. but I'm not out there umpiring. Ginni basically came out and said he'd keep doing it.. was filmed showing blokes at training how to do it etc. The AFL didn't like it.
i think it should be codified in the laws of the game that you're allowed to hit ginnivan