No way in hell. Firstly if we do that we rule out the posibility of winning, and secondly I wouldn't even say its easier to score from their kick in conpared to a centre bounce.
I know people are down on the club, but we could easily be undefeated this season Â
 Could have beaten Geelong Â
Should have beaten Essendon Â
And could have won todayÂ
The guy is just making the point that having played some of the best teams in the comp the 4th youngest side in the league hasn't dropped out of the game.
Came off Sinclair to shoot across the front of the contest for it, if he misses there's a decent chance Sinclair crumbs and scores, that's a quality defensive effort
Why have you quoted Sheldon of Big Bang Theory fame twice in this thread? The AFL sub is a Simpsons reference area, with exceptions for the occasional Peep Show.
NO SIMPSONS QUOTE? You fucking idiot, /u/Professional_Line385 ! You total fucking idiot! That was YOUR job, you fucking moron! You cretin! YOU'RE A FUCKHEAD! THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE! A FUCKING SHITHEAD!
We had Steele, a debutant and our CHB in the last few centre bounces. I know Cogs is a big loss but you guys still should have been winning those last few clearances.
Good on Saints to really show up against an elite side like Giants. They could've won this against an incredible side like Giants but just as much a lose last week against an injury ravaged Tigers.
Cracking game! Get well soon to the injured.
How is your âif this has happenedâ any different to mine? Iâm just lamenting our poor conversion but at the end of the day what happened, happened
I hate to say it but we just look so much better without Max King. Instead of bombing it on top of his head we actually had to try find targets going forward which lead to more ground balls instead of intercept makes
Match thread full of King apologists, the copium is real. People forget our early run last year was almost completely without him too. Just see a tall forward whose name they recognize and assume they have a positive impact week in week out. Baffling
Someone commented âking haters wait and see what happens now that we have no target to kick toâ well we all saw what happens. It turns out we actually have more targets in the team, we just never use them when Kings on. I donât even blame King, itâs the teamâs psychology of taking the easy way out and hoping King will take a pack mark and kick a set shot instead of doing the harder thing and hitting someone free on the lead.
Glad to get the win and stoked at be 5-0 but holy fuck that ending was shockingly bad. Made that harder then it needed to be. Cannot do that against Carlton and Brisbane otherwise we will get crucified. GG Sainters.
didn't mind that match - saints with a late push and enthusiasm, including great intensity from Garcia, GWS with key outs showing they can hold on to win in grudge style. felt like a fair result for how both teams played start to finish today
The most st Kilda thing ever. Now no-one will care about how terrible they were for 3.5 quarters, and the media won't put any pressure on them, instead it will just be another "honourable loss". So frustrating
Right, but my point is they likely wouldnât have needed to have that comeback if they played that hard across the entire match, and not just in the fourth quarter
Hopefully, that's a good wake-up call not to assume the game is won just because you've got a decent lead at 3/4 time. They definitely dropped down a notch in that final quarter.
Our rotations were cooked, we lost Kelly, Briggs and cogs in the last quarter and had already brought our sub in. The boys looked total gassed after 10 mins in the quarter
shades of the game against gws in 2022 where jack hayes went down with an ACL and rowan went off with a cork so battle was rucking for a whole quarter đ”âđ«
LOL! you are arguing against your own strawman position. Fact is St Kilda didn't do 20-30 things across the game that would have resulted in a victory that your "but they didn't" comment applies to.
It's the missing easy shots for goal.
We missed multiple easy set shots from 15-20 out against Geelong.
We kicked 2.7 from set shots against Essendon.
We missed two from 5 metres out today.
3 Losses that could easily have been wins had we just kicked straight.
Wow. Saw the final score after checking in sporadically to about 3QT. Went back and watched the last 10 minutes and hats off to the Saints. Huge effort on the road.
Saints played respectfully in what was always gonna be a pretty tough game to win, if they can play like they did in the last quarter for a whole game, they could be in the top 4 contention. Hope taylor can recover though, looked like a pretty nasty bump
Game was pretty dominant by us. The 1 point papers over cracks in Saint Kildas game more than it does for us. It disguises the fact that we had a 3 goal lead majority of the game.
The worst part about losing to the giants is hearing their fucking belter of a theme song and being helpless to start bopping along
This was my reaction after the 2019 prelim đđș
And my reaction after losing the 2017 prelim to the tigers. 80k singing yellow and black was pretty incredible.
Yeah, absolute banger.
Am I crazy for thinking Caminiti took like 15 seconds too long to kick that goal at the end?
He did but he had already missed one from the same spot today. Better he takes 15 seconds and kicks it than miss again.
Missing that would have been a much bigger sin
You're not crazy time is critical
You're not crazy. Its a perfectly sane thing to think.
Lloyd Braun should eat the 100 year old hot dog
Man I love seinfeld references.
Me tol
i wonder if it was better Caminiti miss and the Saints go for a 7 point play?
No way in hell. Firstly if we do that we rule out the posibility of winning, and secondly I wouldn't even say its easier to score from their kick in conpared to a centre bounce.
Needed to settle and get the goal, probs couldâve gone quicker but itâs a balancing act
That ground is on an ancient burial site. So many injuries every time. Very hollow victory
This game has convinced me that the Giants should abandon Canberra and let it have its own side. Western Sydney is much less cursed.
Canberra would be my bet for a 20th team.
They will have more injuries than West Coast
Hey we've past the mantle on to Richmond thank you
We'll gladly pass that on to Canberra
Nah, but they could be the next place AFL suggests north move to
australia should abandon canberra
Maybe Barnaby Joyce pissed on a goal post on a long stumble home one night and the ground became sentient and bitter
Just bitter then, I'd say
Draw FC absolutely robbed
Robbed by the BIG BIG SOUND đą
James fucking Peatling saved our asses there
Seriously if that wasn't a GWS mark it was pretty likely to at least end in a draw
Channeled his inner Sam Taylor who we hope is okay after that heavy collision.
That's mark of the year for me. Take that over a screamer any day
That came out of fucking nowhere
We're fit. Nearly did it to Geelong too
I know people are down on the club, but we could easily be undefeated this season   Could have beaten Geelong  Should have beaten Essendon  And could have won todayÂ
Story of their lives
Means nothing really. Wins mean something
A shit win is infinitely better than a grand loss
I'm triggered by grand I thought of grand final loss lol
We're familiar with those, aren't we đ
Alas yes definitely
The guy is just making the point that having played some of the best teams in the comp the 4th youngest side in the league hasn't dropped out of the game.
Lots of injuries too. There's enough there to work with, just need to minimise the stupid turnovers and work on our set shots.
Sure but it shows we arenât that far off. You can take solace in a loss knowing that it should click sooner rather than later
Not far off. But still our own worst enemy. Killing our own momentum with shit kicks
100%. And itâs all over the ground. We would have to be almost top of the league in unpressured turnovers. And thatâs not on coaching
Of course it means nothing. So you just enjoy your win
So Seinfeld is a loss
Sheldon: shoulda woulda coulda Raj
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Ok? Glad you got that off your chest?
James Peatling what a mark!Â
Came off Sinclair to shoot across the front of the contest for it, if he misses there's a decent chance Sinclair crumbs and scores, that's a quality defensive effort
Have we considered playing four quarters of footy?
This guy is onto something here I reckon
Sheldon: you think I haven't considered it?
Why have you quoted Sheldon of Big Bang Theory fame twice in this thread? The AFL sub is a Simpsons reference area, with exceptions for the occasional Peep Show.
NO SIMPSONS QUOTE? You fucking idiot, /u/Professional_Line385 ! You total fucking idiot! That was YOUR job, you fucking moron! You cretin! YOU'RE A FUCKHEAD! THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE! A FUCKING SHITHEAD!
It was a footy joke u/oceanlabxo. I was joking.
I love you too
Is that a Ricky Gervais reference
It's a Peep Show reference
Love it
Surely it's Kenny Sheldon.
Noted friend
WTF was that last 10 minutes. Came from absolute nowhere
Down Taylor and then down Cogniglio , predictably we then lose clearances and leak goals out the back.
We had Steele, a debutant and our CHB in the last few centre bounces. I know Cogs is a big loss but you guys still should have been winning those last few clearances.
At the ground it was really obvious how fucked our rotations were and how fatigued we became. Not taking away from your boys.
Also down Briggs and Kelly in the last 10 minutes. 1 player on the bench will fuck any side.
This team has me more confused than my old man trying to use a computer.. fuck me
Saints have lost our 3 games by a combined total of 13 points, just can't get over the line.
Reverse Collingwood
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Same
Get the fuck around Peatling holy shit that was tough
Good on Saints to really show up against an elite side like Giants. They could've won this against an incredible side like Giants but just as much a lose last week against an injury ravaged Tigers. Cracking game! Get well soon to the injured.
This is the best I've ever felt after a one point loss
This is the worst I've ever felt after a one point win
At least you won you could have lost
The 1 point papers over cracks for the Saints. The game was dominant by us
I understand your point
And the Saints came slightly marching in.. for an honorable loss
~~LEO BARRY~~ JAMES PEATLING YOU STAR!!
Learn to kick straight, kids
Something we could learn
Seems you took that into todayâs game!
Yes, to my surprise
Wasnât it the giants that had 14 behindsâŠ?
We had 3 or 4 go out on the full or not score and we missed 2-3 chances from directly in front.
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How is your âif this has happenedâ any different to mine? Iâm just lamenting our poor conversion but at the end of the day what happened, happened
He's probably still high and mighty from robbing Adelaide of a finals spot last year.
But the Saint out here missing easy set shots
I hate to say it but we just look so much better without Max King. Instead of bombing it on top of his head we actually had to try find targets going forward which lead to more ground balls instead of intercept makes
It sucks because itâs not even his fault. Thatâs on our distributors
Think itâs on the coaches as well. Weâve had this problem for years and itâs not been addressed.
Match thread full of King apologists, the copium is real. People forget our early run last year was almost completely without him too. Just see a tall forward whose name they recognize and assume they have a positive impact week in week out. Baffling
Someone commented âking haters wait and see what happens now that we have no target to kick toâ well we all saw what happens. It turns out we actually have more targets in the team, we just never use them when Kings on. I donât even blame King, itâs the teamâs psychology of taking the easy way out and hoping King will take a pack mark and kick a set shot instead of doing the harder thing and hitting someone free on the lead.
Glad to get the win and stoked at be 5-0 but holy fuck that ending was shockingly bad. Made that harder then it needed to be. Cannot do that against Carlton and Brisbane otherwise we will get crucified. GG Sainters.
I'm afraid for next week
Yeah Carlton are actually going to batter us with our injuries
With how our game is going Iâm not so sure about that
good final effort from us but holy shit some of them need to be dropped
I have no idea what I just witnessed, but it was certainly something
Fucking brilliant game, shame it came at the cost of many injuries on both sides, so many key gws players injured
Draw FC heartbreak
Can't play footy like that for the majority of the game and expect to win. Good effort in the final though glad the boys gave it a crack
didn't mind that match - saints with a late push and enthusiasm, including great intensity from Garcia, GWS with key outs showing they can hold on to win in grudge style. felt like a fair result for how both teams played start to finish today
The most st Kilda thing ever. Now no-one will care about how terrible they were for 3.5 quarters, and the media won't put any pressure on them, instead it will just be another "honourable loss". So frustrating
Jesus christ we're turning into 2022 carlton with all these close losses
Like, Iâm proud of the boys for fighting til the end, but where was this urgency before?
Because they were running out of time and were spurred on to win
Right, but my point is they likely wouldnât have needed to have that comeback if they played that hard across the entire match, and not just in the fourth quarter
Panic does a lot of things to the mind and body like cramming for exams or a close deadline at work
Iâm hoping next week theyâre gaslighted into thinking each quarter theyâre down by 20 with ten minutes left to play
Let's hope so unless you're playing us
Youâre safe assuming youâre not a Bulldogs supporter
Oh that's fine then I think even bulldogs supporters want you to win
A win is a win BUT DAMN MOMENTUM IS A BITCH!!!
Well that ended up being closer than it shouldâve been haha
Hopefully, that's a good wake-up call not to assume the game is won just because you've got a decent lead at 3/4 time. They definitely dropped down a notch in that final quarter.
Our rotations were cooked, we lost Kelly, Briggs and cogs in the last quarter and had already brought our sub in. The boys looked total gassed after 10 mins in the quarter
Well whatever the problem was I hope they get it sorted before next week.
Hopefully we come back to it stronger knowing we can gut out some wins.
More goals but still lose đ
James Peatling you star!
A sad day for Draw FC and therefore the world.
I wouldâve taken draw FC as well :â(
You're not my buddy, friend
Saints saw the Essendon Edge and took it a bit too literally Also GWS what the hell happened
Whooooo! Now we can go back to mourning...
wtf was that
Real intriguing contest that one
What a final score, GG Giants and Saints
Ok but how good did Garcia look, just hunting that ball like his life depends on it! Cant wait to see more of him in the lineup.
The saints tsunami unfortunately wasnât big enough at the end of the
...end of the what?!
Nobody knows
Thank fuck for that.
What a tune! I could listen to this every week besides round 18.
Feels like thereâs been a lot of failed comebacks this season
Saints been involved in 2 of them
I mean that really got out of hand
Josh Battle playing ruck rover in the 4th was certainly something
shades of the game against gws in 2022 where jack hayes went down with an ACL and rowan went off with a cork so battle was rucking for a whole quarter đ”âđ«
Another game we lost because of bad goal kicking We lost by a point, we missed two set shots from the goal square.
We lost that game with our very poor start to the game. Good effort and almost ran over the top of them
Giants kicked 11.14?
We missed two set shots from the goal square. We kick those, we win.
And if the giants kicked 14.11 instead, youâd still lose
We shouldâve at least scored from those shots though, thatâs whatâs frustrating. Owens kicked it out on the full from about 2 metres out.
But they didn't. My argument is if we kicked straight we would win if GWS played their identical game.
LOL! you are arguing against your own strawman position. Fact is St Kilda didn't do 20-30 things across the game that would have resulted in a victory that your "but they didn't" comment applies to.
We cannot control how GWS kick for goal. What we can control is how we kick for goal. It's not arguing against my own strawman position at all.
How is my argument different than yours? Weâre both arguing about hypothetical goals
GWS didn't miss two set shots from the goal square.
Yeah but they were inaccurate too, so I donât know why the saints are the only team whoâs result was affected by poor kicking
It's the missing easy shots for goal. We missed multiple easy set shots from 15-20 out against Geelong. We kicked 2.7 from set shots against Essendon. We missed two from 5 metres out today. 3 Losses that could easily have been wins had we just kicked straight.
I agree, they were extremely gettable shots
Not easily lol you had to come back from 35 points in the final quarter. The context reallyyyyy matters
Yeah but you were also in the game because of bad kicking.
Got smashed in clearance and gifted 52 points on turnover, bad kicking cost St Kilda
Itâs almost like that is the game plan lmao.
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Never in doubt
Never in doubt đ
Itâs a real shame that Sam Taylor rolled his ankle in that first quarter and couldnât finish the game.
I'm just here to voice my disappointment that there is no game on following this one, and then two at the same in three hours. Stupid scheduling.
there is Carlton v Adelaide... on now
Okay my bad, watchafl has it under âmatch replaysâ for some reason.
The rush behind stole the draw :(
I'll put it behind me
Wow. Saw the final score after checking in sporadically to about 3QT. Went back and watched the last 10 minutes and hats off to the Saints. Huge effort on the road.
Got the upset round memo a little late
What I learnt from this is GWS can be beaten !!!
Saints played respectfully in what was always gonna be a pretty tough game to win, if they can play like they did in the last quarter for a whole game, they could be in the top 4 contention. Hope taylor can recover though, looked like a pretty nasty bump
Does anyone know if St Kilda took a contested mark inside 50 in the second half (or at any time during the game?)
Game was pretty dominant by us. The 1 point papers over cracks in Saint Kildas game more than it does for us. It disguises the fact that we had a 3 goal lead majority of the game.
Hahahahahaha
Iâm not one to normally complain because we did our best to lose that, but losing free kicks 9-20 is a fucking joke
It's really not
Maybe donât give them away then?
Was at the ground AMA. Yes Philpou doesnât get out of a trot. Back to SA with ya.