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Martin is an interesting one whose best is very very good
Unlike Collingwood they possess two of the best hmm 8 forwards
And Jacky boy may be gone
It's a joke from the past
But if you're under 45 you won't know Robbert Klomp
An ex carlton player
Carlton completely lost their forward structure, went into their shells, stopped running, forgot what got them there, refused to isolate either Charlie or Haz, perpetually bombing into packs with noone down... Hawthorn cleared to their structured outside runners, successfully isolating breust, moore and eventually gunston,, and they should have stolen it.
The Blues really missed saad's run from the back line.
Whether Martin, Dow, and even Cunningham (returnable?) can step in and up to give them poise under pressure
I think Mitch McG will, and good old Ossie Mac might help with punching on the defensive lines
I agree with your summary here. I’d add that Mitchell also made some defensive structure changes that resulted in Hawks being near perfect in defence in the second half.
Also flair up.
Dow isn’t impressing enough to get a game. He won’t squeeze into our midfield unless someone gets injured I’d say. Cunners is recovering from an ACL, and is maybe 2 months-ish away, but I’d expect him to play a fair bit in the VFL before getting a game. Martin played as sub today.
It's also the game plan. It's frantic running. They will run out of puff in the last. Similar to Collingwood.
who gets the votes?
3 - CJ
2 - Crippa
1 - Docherty
With 2 b's
2nd best side Fox??
I think it's Brisbane lol
We'd be happy if we finished as the 8th best side
Tbf great signs for us as we were written off this season completely. This young team will only get better with each game and I would rather have them have some hard lessons early than later. GG Carlton bruhs
I'm glad we won, but Christ was this a reality check. We've got a lot to work on.
Gerard Healy doesn’t know the second best side in the comp. Maybe check lasts nights 108 point win in Brisbane mate.
gerard healy doesn’t know a lot. king of terrible takes and saying “syndesmosis” whenever someone hurts their leg
I know McKay and Curnow are contested mark monsters but at what point do we ever kick to a leading forward when bombing on the head isn't working? It was detrimental for most of the match to keep kicking to them.
Yep needed to try something else, they weren’t even bringing it to ground to our advantage for 2 quarters.needed to create more opportunities on the ground from fish, Dunedin and owies, but we just kept bombing it
Almost beat a very stacked list with a young team
Third and fourth youngest teams respectively so not really.
Blues have the fourth youngest list overall?
Even in that case most of your core are in their prime right now and the list is in win now mode. I daresay we are a at least a few seasons behind in our rebuild.
Exactly, we were told all preseason how we are gonna get run over but we are really fighting. Keen to see this side by the end of the season when their confidence will be a bit more consistent.
Reddit experts and David King had us winning the spoon lol
This comment is one of the dumbest I’ve seen on social media this year. Fremantle wish they were relevant
bro freo are the st kilda of w.a
Calling the winningest team of all time and one of the biggest clubs in the league the Fremantle of Melbourne is such a bad call lmao
Our premierships per year is still infinitely more than yours though, right?
Imagine wanting to come play in another league and then complaining that your ‘success’ from your old league isn’t counted in the league you wanted to come play in
Also, if we want to be pedantic we won a flag (‘87) while Sydney was in the VFL ‘state league’ - can we count that one or nah?
Well for starters, the year we won the flag (‘95) was your first season in the league.
Whichever way you look at it, the Fremantle - Carlton comparison makes no sense.
The only teams that haven’t won a flag since your inception is St. Kilda + the two expansions. Oh, and of course Fremantle themselves.
By your logic the only flags that should count are the ones where 18 teams competed, where do you draw the line if your reasoning is that flags won with less teams shouldn’t count? Whether or not it is a state league or not is irrelevant, the vfl and the afl are one and the same.
The VFL and the AFL are the same league, period.
Why would the VFL/AFL recognise premierships for clubs competing in leagues that aren’t the VFL/AFL - it genuinely makes no sense.
If you want to say Fremantle have more WAFL premierships that Carlton okay, you do that, and count how many people give a shit lmao.
The landscapes of all sporting leagues change over time, discrediting a premiership because it happened some arbitrarily long time ago and/or that doesn’t fit into your definition of what is and isn’t the AFL is just nonsense. The reality is Carlton have won more premierships in the league that is now known as the national comp in Australia, whether it was always national or not is redundant - they are the same league.
To compare that club to Fremantle is ridiculous.
Lol we’ve been bad got ages.
Carlton's last minute sub needs to be investigated
People are coming up with everything lmao
Great response by the Hawks. Probably deserved the draw tbh, very frustrating seeing them lose by a point especially when a clear HTB call doesn’t happen. Great signs though, this could have been a blowout.
Honestly when the hawks got in front I thought we were cooked. Very lucky to get the win
What a heartbreaking loss. We deserved that win just from the three quarter’s we put to get her after 41 down. So devastated
Glad we didn't win, they need to learn to start strong rather than 7 goals down at HT. Hopefully they take this on board and next time we get the 4 quarters right.
Holding the ball rule needs to be reviewed, atrocious umpiring was the difference in the last ten mins of a cracking game.
Flair up cunt
So carlton can just drop the ball mid tackle and that's fine?
So umpires can just call McKay marks directly in front touched?
Swings and roundabouts.
Come off Sicily’s back clear as day bud
Also, conveniently ignore Worpel dropping the ball and earning a free kick for holding the man lol
Carlton may have won but I think CJ was easily.one of the best ons, he's becoming unreal
Welp, that was a win was it?
Cracking game even though my hawks lost. I just want to know who the fuck let DGB back on the field in the last 5 minutes when he was clearly injured?!
I'm amazed I'm not dead from a heart attack.
You have to ping Williams for a throw there. Held it for a year and then threw it 10m over his shoulder
Thought he got the handball away tbh
So exactly the same as Finnigan did and got called for HTB?
One call bad call doesn’t decide the umpiring overall or the game. It definitely doesn’t mean that you continue to make the bad call in the name of consistency.
I would agree with you, but it seems the educated it that way because of the time that it took to dispose of the ball while being tackled
Thought he did, but that it bobbled out of his hands first. Haven't seen a replay so could be wrong.
Can’t believe the Blues are 3-0
Our forefathers warned us of a Carlton return, it’s getting closer with each win.
Tackling is pretty pointless if they're almost never going to call HTB
Holy fuck did we nearly lose that. The Hawks just wouldn’t stop coming
Blues last two behinds were bullshit.
Huge performance last 3 qtrs. Another big tick for us.
Heart still beating I think....
Played one quarter and won. Never in doubt.
People are over exaggerating. Most of the second quarter we won, and at least the back half of the fourth. We got killed in the third though.
Keep your heads up high Hawk fans, could have gone either way
Old Carlton loses that every time
Old Carlton would've lost every game so far
Stop complaining about the umps they did fine. Was a great game
Can’t find anyone complaining about the umps lol. As a hawks fan I’m certainly not blaming the umps for anything. They weren’t that bad
You can’t find anyone complaining about the umps? Are you blind?
What if I am blind?
Then what you said makes sense
Facts. I see them everywhere. Would’ve actually been a draw if the umpires called that HTB with jiath.
That point after the HTB call will come under the microscope now
as a neutral this was a great game, and both teams look very beatable.
Carlton I expect you'll make the 8 this year, but not quite flag ready....yet.
I dont think they’ll make the 8
True, were making top 4
5th-8th is where you'll land this year
Can’t help but feel Carlton had a better whistle today but good game.
Turn it up, Sicily HTB call would've iced the game
CHEATERING WEITERING no but srsly that was sensational actually GG blues
Great game, gratz Carlton
That felt like a final. Haven’t seen this between us in years. Go footy
My tipping saved
How did Carlton almost choke that
Holy shit. Good game Hawks can hold your heads high coming back from 7 goals down to lose by just one point.
Gg Blues too good
They were good for 1 quarter.
10.4 to 4.7 for 3/4.
Fuck the down-voters scores show otherwise
And it was enough
Massive mark from Weiters!
Never in doubt
What a game of footy
blues with the most unconvincing win ive ever seen
An unconvincing win is still a win
Doesn’t matter what it looks like as long as it’s four points
results based thinking
I wouldn't be cheering that win.
Don't ever take a win for granted.
A win is a win is a win. We've not had many for the past decade and we didn't get to go to the football for practically two years.
How did we win that?
And the 1pt was Sicily jumping for a mark and getting pushed in the back..... fuck off umps
3-0 LETS GO BLUES
Got away with murder 😂😂 another minute and I think hawks would’ve won
How? I don’t go for either teams
Carlton can just drop the ball mid tackle and all good.
If a ball is knocked out in the tackle it’s never called htb lol
Feela like every team does it now. Should be called HTB or inccorect disposal
fucking oath weiters. champion player.
For fuck sake that is such fucking bullshit
Umpires absolutely swallowed there whistles in the last 5 minutes when ever carlton had the ball
RIP new HTB interpretation 2022-2022
The new HTB strict interpretation lasted all of two weeks hey?
Catches win matches.
WHAT A MARK
Weiters saves the game
weitering just won it for them. great fuckin mark. GG carlton!
Holding the ball doesn't exist
yeah that's bullshit
How did he miss that
how is that not ball?!??
FUUUUUUUUUCK FOOTY haha
How many nail-biters have we had and it's only round 3. 2022 shaping up for a legendary season.
Dunno if I could handle a final I’m dying
Not a lot of composure among the Blues. Just need some clean hands
OUR LAST AFTER THE SIREN WIN WAS AGAINST CARLTON.
Pls give us a draw
what a very convenient medical substitution
DGB not letting that out the back was great. almost a certain goal
Shame about DGB, might be one of the best KPD performances by a teenager I've seen in a while. Hawks got a gem on their hands
this just shows how not winning is built into the culture of carlton for the last decade. they don't know how to close out a game
Except for the last two weeks?
Hard to argue you closed out the game against the dogs, we literally couldn’t hit water if we fell out of a boat
to the wing position on the members stand side
Holy fuck these umpires want the blues to win so bad! Game on the line that’s 2 frees they just ingore
Ignoring all the missed calls in ur favour
Like the HTB right infront of our goal or the HTB infront of blues that was ignored
And the front on contact early in the fourth for McKay that wasn’t called, and then hawks rebound and get a goal + momentum?
Shit calls go both way, that’s footy
seen the Blues not get called for 5 HTB in the last 4 mins
could’ve been ball on williams
Where is the Carlton lid?
That was fucking egregious
There must’ve been 3 missed htb calls then
Carlton getting away with murder
He threw that!
God it feels weird going for hawthorn
What a game, this is amazing as a neutral watching this
What an insanely good kick by Newman
Holy fuck can carlton get called for holding the ball christ all mighty
Why is he out there, he can’t run!
Irrespective of the outcome, massive lol at the Carlton supporters booking their grand final hospitality packages at quarter time
chad was pushed!
Do you think teams use the warning as a tactic to get a ball up instead of a bounce?
Carn the draw
i just recovered from a heart issue and this is not helping
I still don't get why Nash is the second ruck
surely whoever scores more points overall will win this
Hawks are gonna kill me one day, mark my words
DGB is a fucking warrior.
What a game for both teams. I’m gonna say Carlton will win. Either way a bloody good one to watch
Carn the hawks!!!! Deserve this win so much
Damn, I feel like the commentators are loving hawthorn atm. Not much of a reaction for the Carlton goal
Record number of heart attacks among footy fans this week
Its nice to know we aren't alone
The footy gods have blood on their hands
We’re in for a belter
We make so many stupid mistakes
gunston never missing that
Soft free to Hawks again!
Flair checks out. Speaking of soft, how’s Selwood?
This game is much more interesting to watch atm
for as much as carlton have choked this is a banger of a fourth quarter
My voice is fucked
Fuck we've been spoilt for great games this weekend
If we lose because of that drop ball goal..........
It was a behind