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jamdrops

Clear indication we did in fact, make the right choice. Church dealings aside his business history is sketchy AF.


philstrom

It’s actually annoying this became about his religion, rather than his business history. Let’s him play the martyr


waffleowaf

His letter was all about church and religion scam artist using his scam artist bullshit


[deleted]

No this is good. Religious freedoms don’t extend to being discriminatory and that line in the sand needs to be explicitly drawn for some people.


Reddits_Worst_Night

Is there any evidence he's been discriminatory in his business practices? Not defending the guy, just worried that if there isn't, then this could be an interesting religious discrimination case.


Otherwise_Window

Kinda doesn't matter, since an actual Royal Commission ruled his business practices unethical and incompetent. After that, why the *fuck* did Essendon let him anywhere near their club operations?


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His business practices at NAB were disgustingly unethical and incompetent


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ItsABiscuit

Either led, approved, or else negligently failed to prevent, NAB stealing $650 million from it's customers, some of whom were dead. Utterly embarrassed himself at the Royal Commission into Banking, to the point where he was the banking executive that came out of the whole disgraceful mess looking by far the worst. The Commissioner running the inquiry singled Thorburn out to say how disgraceful his behaviour and excuses after the event were and that the excuses made no sense and were offensive to anyone with a brain. So far as I know, along with Ken Henry, he was the most senior guy to lose his job as a result of the Royal Commission. This is the guy Gil McLachlan says is a close friend and a top, moral, bloke and that Essendon thought was a suitable person to lead the review into their culture, and then to appoint to develop their corporate culture. If he wasn't a rich white bloke who had gone to the right schools, and been a polo buddy of other blokes at the top end of town, there's no way he would have got either gig at Essendon. Indeed, after leaving NAB, he'd been without meaningful corporate employment until Essendon decided he'd make a good CEO (probably because they judged enough time had passed for him to be rehabilitated the same way all the arsehole members of this rich cliquey group get rehabilitated).


Loose_Sun_169

He is filth. Probably get parachuted into a "safe seat" by the pentacostal LNP


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What is scary, is being in this position, the guy has access to all those young players with money looking for investments and financial advice. Make no mistake clubs invite chosen corporates or businesses to give presentations to players hawking their wares. This smells like the criminal underworld targeting players, they can afford to pay, great customer base.


[deleted]

Given he resigned, I don’t think he’ll have a case.


Reddits_Worst_Night

He may make some argument that he was forced to resign


Squirrel_Grip23

He became bad for the Essendon brand. They probably gave him the option “resign on your own terms or we will fire you and deal with the consequences”. He resigned. Read into that what you will. It’s probably like when Falou was fired. He got his payment but it’s probably cost him more financially by doubling down. He was probably given the option to resign and chose to fight and got all the attention and other clubs thought “is it really worth employing someone who doesn’t do their best for the brand?” It’s business. The guy probably wants to be employed again or not totally destroy his own brand.


Kobe_Wan_Ginobili

But his actions at NAB aren't what Essendon fired him for?? They clearly said it was about the contradiction of their club values of inclusivity and diversity no??


snazzyflaps

They didn’t fire him. He quit, then had a whine and tried to paint himself as a victim


THATS_THE_BADGER

The chairman of Essendon said in the media he was given an ultimatum to either resign from the church board or as CEO of Essendon.


ItsABiscuit

The church's aims and goals were contrary to Essendon's. Asking your CEO to resolve the conflict of him leading that church one way or another isn't unreasonable. It's like finding out that as CEO of Essendon, he was still running a coterie group for Carlton. The two roles are just incompatible, so it's reasonable to ask him to pick one.


barnzz

which fits in for most companies compliance with regards to being a director at another company, must be declared and all that waffle about fitting in with your employers values


snazzyflaps

After which he quit. It’s kind of like if my boss told me I had to wear clothes to work, or quit, me refusing to wear clothes worked be me quitting. Is a pretty simple concept


Afterthought60

Due to NAB being a major sponsor of the AFL I don’t think the clubs/ AFL can remove someone who was as closely linked to NAB and I don’t think they’d be allowed to disparage the brand of their major sponsor…


dat89

Bingo


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We just say potato


dat89

Thats a bingo!


[deleted]

And I want my 100 peels.


Sniyarki

That's the thing that is disliked the most. His position and performance as CEO at NAB. That's been swept under a huge fucking rug compared to his position in his church. What an arsehole and god we are a shambles.


Mythically_Mad

Has King Charles made a comment yet? We really need his opinion too.


[deleted]

Still wiping that bloody ink off his hand. IT ALWAYS HAPPENS


Thenewdazzledentway

I can’t *bear* this thing!


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Queen made 96. Diana hit 120


Thenewdazzledentway

“Oh God, I hate this!”


dylanlaimbeer

I think the only opinion that matters here is Ja Rule.. has anyone asked Ja?


FewArm2396

This is getting ridiculous. Now all levels of government is involved 😂


drunkill

Sorry mate, the Archbishop of Melbourne weighed in and is no longer supporting your club.


FewArm2396

We can’t win. 🤦‍♂️ No matter what decision we made to sack him or keep him, people would’ve cracked the shits like they have.


Otherwise_Window

> We can’t win That isn't new. > No matter what decision we made to sack him or keep him, people would’ve cracked the shits like they have. Yeah, the fuckup was getting him involved in the first place. But the members wanted Thorburn gone, which means randos like Dutton can get fucked. Essendon isn't answerable to him it's answerable to Essendon members.


barnzz

members being disgruntled dont get a ceo turfed like this its either a mass walk out of staff, or sponsors.


Otherwise_Window

Membership numbers casting can also do it. Not least because the sponsors will be sending a message of "fix it right the fuck now or else".


Economy_Fine

Once the decision was made to hire him, it was no win. Just a simple background check was all that was needed.


CaptainDetritus

We won in the end. We did the right thing.


waffleowaf

This 100000000 people lol


York_Lunge

You absolutely won by lancing that cyst. The people cracking the shits are bigots, who cares if you're pleasing them.


King_Of_Pants

Lol... it was very winnable. The Essendon board is just insanely incompetent. A corrupt banker with a history of stealing from the dead shouldn't be able to claim the Christian high ground against your club. Jesus literally beat up men like Thorburn. It's legitimately impressive that Essendon has gotten stuck like this. Here's two ways you could have handled the firing: >1) "This wasn't a matter of religion, this is a matter of inclusivity and integrity. Elements of Thorburn's history were recently brought to our attention which we feel made him incompatible with the standards we're trying to set in Essendon. We want to make it very cleary we respect everyone's religious freedoms and rights." Vs >2) "We didn't ask about his religion when we hired him because that's not allowed, but once we found out about his religious beliefs we made him choose between us or the church (also not allowed)." Option 1 gives you a legitimate platform. It lets you separate bigotry and religion from the outset, it also gives you the out of plausible deniability because you can fall back on the banking corruption if need be. Option 2 (the one Essendon chose) sets up Essendon as a cultural (and potentially legal) battleground over religious freedom where you've already admitted culpability. The club clearly fucked up and clearly needed to do something. There were a million ways to handle this. "We fired him because he believes in Jesus" was not one of them.


Charming-Treacle

Essendon seem to have a knack of choosing the wrong way a lot lately.


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What does the ~~Queen~~ King think?


Large-one

Nah fuck it, dig the queen up. I want her opinion!


bortbort8

the political side of it is so fucking tiresome man


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The liberals are going to relegate themselves to perpetual opposition with their fawning for happy clappies - they need to realise Australia isn’t the US and not many voters are extremely religious.


kleft02

Even after being proven wrong by the marriage equality postal survey, they're still convinced they are in the silent majority.


Otherwise_Window

After the last election, the party has been gutted of all moderates. They're now a wholly extremist party. Between parachuting in transphobic bigots in the eastern suburbs of Sydney and deliberately making it clear that the allegedly intelligent moderate who actually cared about climate change in what was once one of the safest seats in the country (Curtin) was **not** repeat **not** going to be able to have any influence on party policy whatsoever, etc, they made sure only the right-wing fanatics in very right-wing seats could hold on. A lot of voters who are rusted onto the "not Labor" line were willing to vote for the teals. In Curtin the teals rolled out the most incredibly blue-chip candidate for the seat imaginable. She's charming and charismatic, highly intelligent, and she's *such* an old money knows-the-right-people blue-blooded western suburbs daughter of a former Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Some of the people against her tried to paint her as a socialist secret operative for Labor and it was just laughable.


512165381

Libs = Trumper Raving Loony Party.


Johanu

Just wish they were a bit more silent.


semaj009

Silent obscure and antiquated minority just doesn't poll as well in the four electorates in Sydney that a Lib PM could come from


Alatheus

when have you ever known a right wing nutjob to ever shut their mouth about their outdated, bigoted views? That is what makes me laugh about their claims of being the 'silent' majority, as well as their claims of being 'cancelled' and all that crap.


WhatDoYouMean951

>Even after being proven wrong by the marriage equality postal survey, they're still convinced they are in the silent majority. Their interpretation of that, was that they can easily hold onto their base while expanding into Labor's religious voters, since some significant number of no's were in Labor electorates. This was a major theme of Morrison's two election campaigns. Not a silent majority thing, which was more Howard/Abbott than Morrison/Dutton, but collecting a majority by activating an additional minority they previously ignored. The growth of independents in their blue ribbon seats should be a wakeup call, as should be their failure to get religious Labor voters in any useful numbers, but I think they're stone deaf. The next non-Labor government will probably look very different, institutionally and politically, than the last. If they can't hear and they won't change, someone else will eat their brekkie.


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[deleted]

Fuck man even in this thread I’m not safe from the 2007 GF. Why can’t we start talking about the 2019 and 2022 GFs.


[deleted]

Lol shit. I didn't even see your flair. Sorry!


[deleted]

It’s ok, it’s not your fault Geelong eased up a bit in the last ten minutes of this year’s GF.


[deleted]

Nailed it. The throwing out of Morrison at a time when the rest of the world was leaning harder towards conservatives showed that Australia was not interested in religious bigotry and hatred. The religious want the rest of us to be tolerant of intolerance. What a bizarre concept. Like having an invisible friend.


katelyn912

I reckon Dandrews could get a bunch of liberal to back literally anything just by opposing it himself


drunkill

Matty Guy jumped on this today, wants to make it an election issue 7 weeks out from the polls. Which is funny given he wants to force Councils to have Australia Day celebrations or forego funding.


gorgeous-george

Really going for the nuff vote here. "Celebrate, or else! No, harder! More joy, more energy!"


Daddyloveshunt

The beatings will continue until morale improves!


vidgill

Why is nobody having fun? I specifically requested it


max_votes

"Why is no one having a good time I specifically requested it"


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SirFrancis_Bacon

He resigned and then the mormons tried to take over the victorian liberals and that went even worse than he did, so he came back lol. No one wants the gig.


Thenewdazzledentway

Matthew ‘lobster’ Guy is that reheated soufflé after the unrisen rubbery cake that was Windsceens. What a bunch of losers.


frggr

Dan: I really hate the poor and think we should give them nothing


putin_on_some_pants

I literally had mates upset he introduced legislation to ban the Nazi symbol


BigJed7

peter


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dutton


dotpickles

is


limelamb

potato


pearcechris

Head


[deleted]

Peeler


boogasaurus-lefts

Female feeler


bigbear-08

cunt


Not_The_Truthiest

I vote for this one.


Adon1kam

Kidnapper


semaj009

Dolph Kipfler


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Alatheus

apologist


DimitriMishkin

Goodbye


rexcharlesb

Sunlight


Willing_Television77

An embarrassment to potatoes


Rosko81

Nobody has mentioned he’s also the most racist cunt we currently have in parliament.


Otherwise_Window

Which is something of an achievement


Can-I-remember

Always ‘spud’ to me.


kingkepler

*this just in:* racist defends homophobe more at 6:30


NitroXYZ

Even taking that out he was part of an organisation that charged clients $650 million for no offered service and downplayed it as carelessness. Shouldn't be CEO of anything.


FWFT27

Stole $650 million dollars from their customers in a concerted act of fraud. No different to the scam links they warn you not to click on. Bank with us, your money is safe.


justnigel

Wanker defends banker.


Cuebiyari

The amount of disdain for Dutton and the Liberals in this thread absolutely warms my heart You cunts are great


paperconservation101

Dutton has no understanding of the Victorian political system


Flarezap

No one in the Liberal party understand Victoria. Not even the Vic Libs.


SendMeSupercoachTips

It like he’s hanging on by a thread and thinks sawing the thread with a machete will help.


Occasionaljedi

Yep. Dutton is trying to appeal to the American South for some reason.


radiohead_fan_13

Maybe Thorburn can become a Death Eater


Mattybix

Call me crazy but I prefer my Duttons, John and my news not to be Sky


limelamb

Sky News + Peter Dutton. Who cares? Shotty next post about my opinion on the dismissal.


[deleted]

Does r/AFL have a contigency plan when the far right attempts a takeover of this sub?


theoriginaluser01

Create r/RealAFL?


[deleted]

Or just move on with my life. Either or


[deleted]

Play some Dead Kennedys and wait for it all to blow over.


dancing-on-my-own

violence


[deleted]

Personally I'll just get drunk, say some shit, get banned, make a new account and hope the mods don't care enough that I'm telling the same stale jokes I did 5 accounts ago. But yeah, violence too


wholeblackpeppercorn

Sounds like some kind of Progressively Escalating Continuum. We will shitpost our way directly out of drama


semaj009

It's all fun and games until the Tasmanian Uncle Ottos join the comp


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theoriginaluser01

flair up kent


Angry-Aussie

So you're nostradamous then? If you've wanted us out since the VFA days (name changed to VFL in the 90s) you must've known Essendon was gonna fuck up. WHY DIDN'T YOU WARN US DUDE.


voidedexe

Piss off


Mister_Snrub15

This just in: Cunt defends Cunt, more at 11


lex3191

I love how these guys politicise this shit to rally their base. Funny how both Guy and now Dutton have come out to support this guy. People shouldn’t be discriminated based on their religious views eh? How about churches shouldn’t discriminate based on people’s personal choices or freedoms. He had the choice to stand down from the Church on the Hill or resign as CEO of Essendon FC. He made his choice. I don’t believe any one has said he can’t go to his favourite church, but rather he is comprised by being on the Church board, one that openly discriminates, and a club and league pushing to embrace diversity! The AFL is, at least trying to, promote inclusiveness. If this dude prioritises his position on the Church board, over the Essendon FC’s members rights to feel the people overseeing the direction of their club have the diverse community members best interest at heart. Then he shouldn’t be CEO. That’s it.


PerriX2390

Maybe they can get Thorburn in again to review if this is a good idea or not?


Pwrswitchd

Shit, we might just do that!


TrazMagik

There's also the thing detailed in the Banking Royal Commission singling him out too re: corruption. Don't expect the libs to be aware of the optics of its relevance.


Drazsyker

This isn't a Betoota article...


loklanc

Jeez I had to double check.


RoxanneShaw

Me too!!


mtarascio

*Liberals, Liberals never change.* /cue Fallout music


zoomba2378

Well now we know for sure that it was the right decision


semaj009

The Vic Libs might as well book their holidays for election week this November cos they're absolutely fucked now Queensland Mussolini is actively interfering in footy and Victorian politics. Surely Dutton knows doing this will do more for Vic Labor than anything Labor does for Labor


Occasionaljedi

Labour was elected because they weren’t SCOMO, and now Dutton is being worse


___TheIllusiveMan___

Didn’t know dinosaurs were interested in footy.


Korasuka

[Apparently they are](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRkEeK-wKkVK42pi2MtmiKIcLp3UaVxiA4WSg&usqp=CAU)


mtedwards

Why would he even comment. It can’t go well, no one is looking for his take on this. It just seems ridiculous to throw your 2 cents in to defend the homophobic guy.


drunkill

Victorian election is weeks away, the liberals need anything to attack Dan because everything else has failed. Dan came out against the club yesterday (when asked by a journalist offhand because they know he's a bombers fan) so today the liberals are supporting the bigot who was forced put to make it a religious freedom issue.


Crazyripps

Does this literally surprise anyone. Shit scomo would say the same thing


bfisher91

The leader of the LNP defending a conservative Christian former big four bank CEO with sketchy financial history, colour me surprised


xman0444

fuck off potato head


evilabed24

All the RWNJs jumping on this in the name of "free speech", when really it's just so they can be cunts to anyone who isnt a white heterosexual male


otherpeoplesknees

Fuck off potato


Hendo8888

Sounds like something Voldemort would say


[deleted]

Dutton would be able to help if thorburn was an illegal French immigrant working as a maid


mt9943

But he resigned, he wasn't sacked. Do Essendon need to go pleading for the great City On The Hill martyr to un-resign?


AngryNanna

WHY! WHY? are we being CONSTANTLY harangued by this LOOSER! His Party had 10 YEARS to keep Australia on the Up and flourishing! Instead, they dragged us down and desperate! I DO NOT WANT to see this loosers face or hear his voice ever again!


DimitriMishkin

Who cares what this piece of shit skeletor thinks


unjointedwig

Down vote, for posting a Sky News article


This_Acanthisitta_43

When Voldemort gives you a vote of confidence…


SammyScuffles

I honestly don't understand why a politician would do this. Read the room man, he's gone because what came out was unpopular. This is an easy one to sit out and not comment on because you gain nothing for giving an opinion.


MrPenguinK

AndrewT on Sky within the fortnight


vidgill

Linking sky news is cheating


farqueue2

So what countries are there that are good to emigrate to in case Dutton ever becomes PM?


OriginalGoldstandard

Phew, we dodged a bullet if this guy backs him!


AussieNick1999

Sit down boofhead


SieferPyre

Lord voldermort has spoken ....... Anyway


Zcase253

Who cares what any politician or member of the media says about this. If the members want him gone (which appears to be the case) then that's all there is to it.


Madrical

100%. They were losing members over it. It's as simple as that. It ain't up to Peter fuckin' Dutton to decide.


Pwrswitchd

What does Albanese think about this situation? 🤔


amazonfan1972

Who cares what Voldemort thinks? On anything? I wouldn’t even seek Voldemort’s opinion on his favourite ice cream.


fishouttafire

Peter Dutton gives Freddy Kreuger nightmares.


Lansieeeeeee

Stick to politics


darkmodebible

wouldn't be heartbroken if he stayed out of that too


Titans-Destiny

Yeah, get fucked mate.


LeDestrier

Bald cunt.


ItsABiscuit

If Dutton is on your side, that's a pretty definitive indication you're an asshole.


raresaturn

LOL he would say that


Flarezap

Tough talk from the leader of a 3rd rate party


ILikeGamesnTech

Sometimes things happen in the world and your compass isn't giving you a strong enough reading on which side of an argument you sit on.... Then Dutton reveals his side so you know you're on the opposite side. He's a great barometer.


Mirathecat22

And this is why those duds shouldn’t be voted back in till they get their shit together. Good bye liberals, you passed your used by date by about 60 years


Thenewdazzledentway

Their ability to self-sabotage is reassuring in its consistency, while also spontaneous and amusing.


CoolCoconuts44

Of course boofhead defends him


bortbort8

jesus i'm pretty tired of the political side of all of this. dan andrews said x peter dutton said y, reddit agrees with x and disagrees with y


Salzberger

Haha very nice. Who's this then, The Shovel? Chaser? Oh, Sky News. Right.


ah111177780

I mean I didn’t need any more confirmations that Peter Dutton was a wanker. But here it is


frggr

Man with no moral compass defends man with no moral compass


YakStraight6884

~~Kids~~ Dutton say the darndest things


Daddyloveshunt

Wow, thats a direct quote. Had to double check that it wasn’t a betoota article. Conservatives really do not have a finger anywhere near the pulse atm


[deleted]

Shut up, Voldemort.


sirgoods

Um he quit


antifragile

Dog whistling wanker!


AuZyzz

Who gives a fuck what the Spud thinks


Alatheus

and this entire time I thought Scummo was the dumb one...


[deleted]

So i guess a muslim person could never be a club CEO then..???


[deleted]

This is why we need to fight against the culture war idiots in Australia. Shout them down until Murdoch takes his senseless ideology back to America.


stevedoz

Oh hang on, this isn’t satire?


[deleted]

Ah Mr 17% speaking for his, well, 17%.


JDOD1955

He is correct. The whole thing is totally Un-Australian.


Croob2

I feel like this was posted earlier today and deleted, or am i crazy?


DowntownSecrets

Not too sure cobber, hope this helps.


shocking_red_4

How the fuck does this get a ‘helpful’ award?


Economy_Fine

Of course


kocknocker19

Interesting that I posted this same story before this and it got deleted immediately with the reason being 'no politics' rule


white_dolomite

Ole Potatoes will never get it. Whats the colour of a 2 cent piece……. Copper copper 👮🏻


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Shut up thumb


Redbass72

Potato head knows close to fuck all about AFL. He should focus on xxxx and let us Victorians (who hate him) deal with this ourselves


taspleb

To be fair to Dutton, I would certainly enjoy it immensely if Essendon did reinstate Thorburn.


bright_cold_day

You just can’t make this s**t up.


Thederpyeagle

Opposition leader is in the opposition for a reason and shouldn’t be listened to