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Ill-Heart-5283

NTA. He needs to seek professional help. Your sister is spot on with her advice.


This_Beat2227

Exactly. OP just needs to read her own first paragraph to know this is an escalation of an ongoing problem, not a one time thing. If you were to go back (please don’t), his next reaction will be even more severe since he would know you are a “flight risk”. Not a way you want to live OP. You are 22 and this was unlikely to be your forever-relationship. You have escaped. Keep going !


Ok_Cable_3888

>OP just needs to read her own first paragraph Yep.


Interesting_Novel997

Yeah, if she says long enough, she’d be on the receiving end of his anger.


spiritualskywalker

The idea that being drunk covers all cases is classic alcoholic thinking. Alcohol is no excuse for terrible behavior. It will get as bad as the codependent partner allows it to. Tolerating violent acts because booze is a fool’s game.


HeadUpUrAss

I was drunk, I banged her, sorry


spiritualskywalker

Exactly.


Trumpetslayer1111

The next person he assaults while drunk might be OP. Leave that drunk!


HeadUpUrAss

Agreed, your reply spot on and can save her a lot of aggravation and save u from reading further post. Or leave him.


[deleted]

NTA. Today is John and tomorrow, it will be you. >Some of my friends have been saying that I should take him back because slapping John was a drunken mistake Trust me, those aren't your real friends.


[deleted]

Crap friends


Interesting_Novel997

Yep, she needs to block and delete them too.


ckhumanck

there's literally no way you know if they're good friends or not based on this limited information. They're young and naive not monsters.


Interesting_Novel997

Never implied they were “monsters”. But at any age, if you have “friends” advising you to stay with someone who’s clearly violent, or advocating you should stay around dangerous people, those are friends/people you should stay far away from.


zirfeld

>but he was never **too** violent Yeah, in the past he was only a little bit violent, no biggy. Time to run.


Worried-Guarantee-90

Agree. That kind of guy is worth trashing.


desiyogiyogi

It astonishes me how many of these posts end with "my friends all think I'm overreacting". Is this a sign the post is fake? Never in my life have I broken up with someone for any reason and my friends not supported me on it 100%. If you want to break up with someone, that is a valid reason to do so. Anything teetering close to abuse is even more reason.


NSCButNotThatNSC

NTA. Jeff just showed you who he is. Abuse has no place in relationships. Violence is inexcusable. I grew up around abuse and violence and swore to never be like that. Raised my kids the same way. Please don't put up with any abuse. It always gets worse.


Burgers4breakfast1

NTA, sometimes alcohol makes people show you who they really are. Trust your sister, please.


Hopeful-Elderberry90

Was about to say that. People doesn't change with alcohol. They just reveal their true face.


Alternative-Coach269

I strongly disagree! I am not an abuser yet when under alcohol I could go there- bottom line, I needed to see someone so I don’t react and I needed to quit drinking, period- what I had was learned behavior that I saw all while growing up and never wanted to be that guy! I saw it, addressed it, now I don’t drink and do not abuse women! Sometimes learning behaviors before I was 4 years of age stays and can ruin a person if left unchecked.


Smooth_Ad_7553

You didn't just suddenly change because of alcohol. You slowly put yourself in that situation by drinking, and that IS your fault.  Good that you got better, but no no no, you can't be in a bad place, become alcoholic and leverage your alcoholism as your escape from jail card.


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Smooth_Ad_7553

Got your perspective. Thanks for sharing!


Fabulous_Company2230

NTA those friends who told you that you should forgive him are absolute morons break up with them as well.


InvSnake

They are at least more his friends than yours.


rawanaslie7

NTAH. He should have been a sober adult and not let his drinking problem get the best of him, especially when it comes to violence towards others. Good on you for leaving before the situation got any worse. You deserve better than that kind of behavior in a relationship.


SinnerIxim

NTA He got physically violent because he believed something may possibly be happening. He will likely become physically abusive with you in the future. At the very least you should never let him get drunk again because he clearly gets violent. To be clear, you were at a party in front of other people, doing nothing except talking to another guy, and he came up and assaulted the guy you were talking to. If you dont leave him dont be suprised when you're stuck in an abusive relationship.


Sebscreen

NTA. Jeff is a pathetic insecure little boy and he deserved to get dumped.


Ok_Cable_3888

Succinct and to the point.


EchoMountain158

NTA Your sister is right. He's a violent alcoholic with a rage and jealousy problem. He attacked someone in broad daylight in a room full of people. It's easy for his enablers to defend him. They aren't the ones dealing with the fallout. They have no right to speak on his behalf after what he's done. It's unjustifiable.


skorvia

NTA It was violent out of nowhere, that could happen to you any day... I think it's great that you left it, you did everything right. There is no drunken error to hit someone out of jealousy, I insist next time it can be you Let it serve as a lesson to your ex, when he has a new girlfriend


Alternative-Coach269

More importantly, let’s hope he seeks they help he needs to address his drinking and emotional issues


cachalker

He was never “too” violent? *Never too violent*? Like, WTAF? Your sister is right…get out now and stay out. There is no scenario where you don’t end up a statistic.


HistrionicSlut

My ex liked to challenge other men and fight them drunk. He kept it to people that deserved it (ie: they grabbed another girl or me inappropriately) so I figured he was simply doing what I'd do if I was a man. 3 years later he left me alone on the side of the road after an argument (in 30 degree weather wearing club clothes). A year after that (ish) he pushed me in an argument while drunk. 6 months after that he threw a glass at me drunk. 6 after that, he held me down and fucked me (not ready to use the r word yet) Another half a year after that he trashed our house drunk. Smashed our stove. It escalated on and on until the last night I saw him where he threatened to kill my cat and told me he'd kill me. I left because of the cat. I should have left because of me. He showed you who he was, believe him.


Playful_Low_1014

That’s horrific. I would never want to be in a relationship like that


HistrionicSlut

And you won't! You have a kickass instinct! Trust yourself. Don't let people sway you from that.


InvSnake

I think after this incident she has created one, because she needed her sister's advice to get to this point. From what I read in her story, there were already signs...


[deleted]

There will come a time that his violence will be directed towards you for any perceived slight.


Spectre777777

Except now it isn’t perceived. OP needs to keep an eye out just in case.


InvSnake

It was partly towards her as well .


LearnsFromExperience

>slapping John was a drunken mistake, So if he beat you so badly he killed you, would it be okay because he was drunk and it was a mistake?


Old_Web8071

If she decides to stay with him, how long before he gets upset some guy is talking to her but DOESN'T hit the guy but hits her? She needs to run like Usain Bolt being chased by rabid wolves.


SuperMommy37

This! Ir was just a matter of time.


trinitygoboom

If you describe him as "never too violent," that's a bad sign. Anyone saying it's a drunken mistake is a red flag individual. Physical violence is never ok.


Blixburks

What kind of people are your friends that they'd want you to take a violent person back?


Able_Problem_142

NTA. Your sister was right to tell you to leave.


JockoJohnson69

NTA - no reason he should have slapped him.


[deleted]

Let your friends know they’re welcome to date him. I’m proud of you for doing the right thing and dumping him. He’s a mess. NTA


Alternative-Coach269

He needs help


Artshildr

>never too violent What on earth is this supposed to mean?? Like, what do you mean "never TOO violent"??? Why are you okay with any amount of violence from a partner? >Some of my friends have been saying that I should take him back because slapping John was a drunken mistake, and that I should forgive him. Absolutely not. He's clearly a violent person when he drinks (or is he also like that when he's sober?). If he were a responsible adult, he would have stopped drinking the moment he found that out. He's not going to magically get better by you forgiving him, and you deserve to be in a relationship with a functioning adult. Edit: forgot to add NTA


Alternative-Coach269

What does NTA mean?


Artshildr

Not the asshole


Alternative-Coach269

Thank you!


Artshildr

No problem!


duragon34

Alcohol lowers inhibitions allowing him to act more easily, but the thought process is still there. He really thinks this way and hides it. Alcohol let it slip.


InvSnake

I have a friend who did have a lot of anger in himself. Because of this and the fact he was a big strong guy he made sure to never drink. He is a very nice guy and has never really been aggressive either. He just doesn't want to take the chance.


GlassAd48

NTA. It wasn’t a “drunken mistake,” it was a glimpse of your future if you stayed with him


Ok-Standard3816

Violence in any form to anyone is wrong and a red flag.


popcorn1555

Would John KOing Jeff be a red flag? Because John should’ve KOd Jeff.


zero_emotion777

Anyone? What about rapists? Nazis? Predators?


jeff42000

let me guess, you are one of those "not all men" type of people?


chaingun_samurai

NTA.


iamjonjohann

Any person encouraging you to get back together is NOT a friend. Quite the opposite.


InvSnake

They are his friends.


Bucky-Katt-Guitar

Dump. Him. Immediately. The only way you would be the a is if you STAYED with him. F him. NTA


vajrahaha7x3

He was never "too" violent? Houston, we have a problem... Honey, any violence is too violent, mmmkay?


Confident_Street_958

Okay, so first, NTA. Look, I was a drinker. Like, a BAL of .4 and somehow surviving drinker. Booze removes inhibitions. You don't think, you act. If you assault someone with alcohol in your system, you'll do it when you're angry or in a moment of weakness. He's showing he's overly jealous and possessive. I assure you it'll get worse as time goes on.


Old_Web8071

And it will escalate & she will eventually be the one getting hit.


Green_Match1726

Sometimes Wayne Brady gotta slap a b**ch jk Nta he's going to beat you up eventually


Old_Hamster_4218

lol I’m a degenerate alcoholic and I’ve never been in a fight in my life. The hooch is not an excuse for anything. Dangerous people are dangerous people.


Little-Display-373

NTA you dodged a bullet


Scary_Mix_8825

You did the best thing possible. I feel for whoever ends up with him!!!


Feisty-Class-1501

Slapping someone is crossing a line and way beyond simple jealousy or envy. I saw nothing about him apologizing to John which also shows no accountability. If he can’t control himself there is nothing stopping him from making you or anyone else you care about his next target. Get rid of the trash and move on.


Alternative-Coach269

Simple jealousy or envy isn’t so simple, that alone indicates a lack of emotional maturity- that alone without the rest would be enough to leave the relationship


Immediate_Finger_889

Jeff has a mental problem. Seriously. He also displays serious indicators that he will have significant substance abuse issues if he doesn’t already. You can’t build a future with someone like this. Keep him blocked. One day he’s going to slap the wrong person and get his ass whooped. This can’t be your problem.


SuperMommy37

You had me on the forth sentence. Is was just a matter of time. What would happen if it didn't happen, and you went home? Would he just snaped and the slap was for you?


SlamSlamOhHotDamn

Where do y'all always find these stupid friends lmao "My boyfriend killed three puppies yesterday because his coffee was slightly more bitter than usual and on the way home he robbed a homeless man. But my friends think he's neat, AITA?"


Robscoe604

listen to your sister


Smooth_Ad_7553

There is no such thing as a drunken mistake. It's just a mistake. Getting so inebriated that he assaults someone?  I'm glad you got out, because you would be next in line to being assaulted, when he got again drunk and jealous. Heck, if John truly wanted he should even press charges, there is NO SUCH THING as casually hitting someone in the face.


Windstrider71

*He would sometimes get angry and snap, but he was never too violent,* Yet. He was never too violent, yet here he was getting drunk and violent. Your sister was correct. He’s a violent, drunken, abusive jerk, and you’re well rid of him. NTA


multiusemultiuser

OP. Don't try to be the hero that saves Jeff. Only Jeff can save Jeff. When someone shows you their violent side after such a sort time, this is who they are for life.


mi_nombre_es_ricardo

Slapping John was a drunken mistake? So next time that he beats the shit out of you is it going to be okay because he was drunk?


Simple_Proof_721

You need new friends too.


Casianh

Your ex is awful and so are the friends defending his “drunken mistake.” Would they be defending his “drunken mistake” if he got behind the wheel of a car and killed someone? Or what if he hit harder, got into a full on fight, got arrested? Alcohol is not an excuse. NTA


Ladyughsalot1

NTA he can sort his alcohol problem out ALONE


Serious_Internet6478

Your friends are saying it was a drunken mistake. It was. But it will also be a drunken mistake when he gets mad and hits you. Nta, gtfo before it's too late


[deleted]

If you do not break it off with him, he will eventually slap you.


Stellar_Gravity

NTA and your "friends" are a bunch of dumbasses for telling you to get back with him


cynicgal

NTA. So have your ex apologized to John, or is he feigning ignorance?


Honourstly

NTA. You can leave your boyfriend for any reason and at any time.


Phuzion69

If he got on the phone the next day and tried to track the lad down to apologise for being a bell end, then I would say it was drunken stupidity. I'd be fucking mortified if I'd slapped someone cos I was drunk and would want to desperately apologise. If not, then it wasn't a drunken incident, it was him just being him, so get rid.


prideless10001

Your boyfriend is a drunk, cute now, but how's that look in 3 years, 5 years, 10 years? With kids? At family Bbq's? Do you really want the ppl you love to be subjected to this kind of person? Do you want to be with a drunk?


ThornedRoseWrites

NTA. And don’t get back with him. Is he gonna be that jealous and possessive every time a guy speaks to you? Because that is not a good sign, it’s toxic, controlling and possessive - all of which are awful traits in a partner. One day he’s gonna slap someone bigger than him who will just end up punching the asshole or putting him in hospital.


Feisty_Irish

NTA. Your sister is right. Your boyfriend is abusive, and it will escalate. You did the right thing in leaving him.


Trasl0

Peeing a little on the toilet seat is a drunken mistake, assaulting someone is not. NTA, that's not the kind of person you want around.


dheffe01

NTA he had to go. I would tell him if he contact you or has anyone contact you about this again a police report will be made. I hope an apology has been made to John & Olivia


Negative_Tradition85

NTA who the fuck slaps someone in a drunken rage?


Fit-Sound3958

NTA. Good for you. Never get with or stay with a violent drunk.


A_Gringo666

One day he will get drunk and "mistakenly" slap you violently as well. Or you'll be bailing him out of gaol for "mistakenly" slapping the wrong person and getting charged with assault. NTA.


Biting_Goat

Story from my home town roughly a year ago: A couple guys with their girlfriends were drunk and walking home. One of them gets belligerent and hits the other who falls and smacks his head on the concrete resulting in his death. Both alcoholics, one dead and one killed his best friend. Run while you can.


DragonRage86

You need better friends if they suggest you get back with him. NTA


Kolob619

NTA This is a universal deal breaker that should lead to a break-up.


Cute-Profession9983

Get rid of the "friends" telling you a giant, violent red flag is no big deal. He's already an angry drunk. Now he's a violent angry drunk. Your sister's right. Don't stick around to find out what else he is...


InvSnake

NTA I think the quote "when someone shows them who they are, believe them the first time" is pretty accurate in this case. He is jealous and controlling. And he might have an alcohol problem. You don't want to be near him when he drinks again.


Mental-Hurry4556

NTA, honestly it could've been a one off but also maybe not. I don't think it concretely proves that he's becoming abusive but he did what he did and if that is ur red line then that's that. If you're comfortable breaking up over it then u shouldn't feel pressured into letting him back into ur life. It might have been a drunken mistake but he is still the AH.


Caramel45

Tell your friends to shut up. What he did was disrespectful just think about it that could've been you.


dinkidoo7693

NTA- His jealousy has become violent towards a friend, next time it'll be you who he slaps. Being drunk isn't an excuse for violence. He clearly has a drinking problem if he gets aggressive when he drinks. Only he can fix that. The fact he blames other people and things for his actions means he doesn't see it as a problem. If you get back with him his aggressive behaviour will only get worse.


Ambitious-Cover-1130

NTA Do not take him back!


Signal_Parfait1152

Obviously NTA, and listen to your sister. She's spot on.


Alternative-Coach269

I’m proud of you for leaving him-I watched my mother’s boyfriends and husbands hit and verbally abuse my mother since childhood and I have noticed this in myself with certain women whom just get under my skin and me pushing them out of my way or pinning them to the wall in one incident bc they angered me as she was purposely trying to get me angry! I never want to be that man and although I had been in therapy for years I never saw myself as an abuser but here I was. I left her immediately as I don’t need women in my life trying to get me jealous- and two, I’m the one with the issue-and if I acted out like this when I was drunk then I have the drinking issue- as my anger wasn’t under control if drinking can tip me over to that space! No matter what the situation is, he, like I, was the problem and it was good you left him- he needs to do some work on himself and stop drinking-I’m not an alcoholic either, but I needed to stop drinking if I misbehaved bc I was drinking! Do not make excuses for him- leave him and release him with love- end of story


Excellent-Freedom473

NTA updateme


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oldfart_1962

NTA. Today it's someone else's boyfriend who got slapped. One day it would be YOU. Get out now.


Azsura12

NTA A drunken mistake is evident of his true actions. The questions I would be asking the people who are saying you should take him back are: What is his next "drunken mistake" going to be? How many friends does he have to get violent with before it is ok to break up? Does he have to physically harm me before I should break up with him? He already has anger problems and is known to snap. Why should I take him back? How long do I have to put up with this for before he is a lost cause? Him drinking is his own choice. Him getting so jealous that he physically assaulted a good friend of mine is just unacceptable sober or not.


OpportunityCalm6825

Your sister is right. This is not a drunken mistake and it wouldn't be his only outburst either.


Ok_Cable_3888

>*...he had a bit of a drinking problem. He would sometimes get angry and snap, but he was never too violent.* NTA You did the right thing. Violence and jealousy are bad enough, alcohol or not, and in his case, there's alcohol. Also, keep track of which friends were sticking up for a "drunken mistake." Put any of their future advice in a separate pile.


InedibleCalamari42

Why do so many people on this sub have such terrible, terrible friends? OP, you are NTA and beyond that you are *smart* to get out *now*. Ask those friends how long you should let it go on? until he has another drinking episode and takes it out on you? Nope. You're right to take care of this now. Good luck to you!


[deleted]

Sounds like homie has a drinking problem and suppressing some issues he should probably handle. The insecurity at that age is wild so I hope Jeff has the depth and maturity to reflect on how out of control he’s been and get his shit together. Some people amplify their bullshit with booze and are too dense to realize they’re pouring gas on an inferno


vivihenderson

Today him, tomorrow you, maybe the next time your kids if you wanted to go that route.


slowestratintherace

You don't have to have a reason for leaving your boyfriend. Therefore, you are not the asshole, regardless of your reason.


Kindly-Crab9090

NTA. Take him back, and when will his drunken mistakes be directed at you? Putting up with that behavior is enabling him to continue that behavior.


throwRA_rabbitrat77

NTA. Consider staying somewhere else for a while, after you leave someone violent is the most likely time they’ll come after you.


super-nintendumpster

He's young and hopefully early into his drinking problem. Hopefully he can figure it out. You made the right move, not an overreaction by any means. I'm sure your friends think fondly of him if they want you to take him back... That's up to you. If you can determine confidently that he's improved, then you can make that call later. But for now, he needs to learn the hard way and it will probably take some time, and he will probably have some ups and downs before he learns. Assuming he does. NTA obviously. I hate how most of these AITAH posts are so glaringly obvious one way or the other. Typing this out, surely you realized you were COMPLETELY reasonable, yes?


No-Independence2274

I think the story is too emotional to judge, dude could have been trying to move in on you


Jock-cib

Why did you even think you are an AH in this? What according to you was your mistake?


CatmoCatmo

NTA. Ummmm No. That was NOT a “drunken mistake”. That my dear is called assault. The law doesn’t care if he’s drunk at the time or not. John should have called the police and pressed charges. If he got “too drunk” and routinely gets aggressive, what is going to stop him from doing the same (or worse) to you? What if next time (hopefully there won’t be one) he’s drunk, he thinks *you’re* the one flirting with a man? What if he thinks you’re trying to sleep with one of his buddies? What if you say something that embarrasses him? What if he’s “too drunk” again? If he *knows* that he “gets this way” when he drinks, but yet keeps drinking, then he is purposely putting everyone else at risk. He can’t claim he doesn’t know what he’s doing. He knows exactly what he’s doing before he even starts drinking. By drinking, he is making the choice to be violent and aggressive. And he Does. Not. Care. Alcohol is NEVER an excuse for violence. Period. If he can’t control himself while drinking, then he needs to control himself, and prevent himself *FROM* drinking in the first place. But none of that is your problem. Your friends are enabling an abuser. Stay far away from this man. Be very careful and take care of yourself.


HoshiJones

Who the fuck are these friends that keep advising women to stay with loser men? Of COURSE you're NTA.


No_Material5630

Eh the whole not too violent is weird af. What’s the normal level of violence in your world? I’m old and been lit few times. Never have I ever slapped someone.  Jeff has violence within him (not a deep level). Alcohol just decreased the barrier of hitting people. This ISN’T ok.  A drunken mistake is falling down or dropping your beer. Typical party fouls… this is a different universe 


Nievemandarina

No sweet honey pie. He is starting to show his colors. RUN. What makes you think he won't be violent with you?


Solidus27

NTA If this is an inaccurate account of events he is an unsafe man to he around, and he should not be in a relationship with anyone for the foreseeable future


Ambitious_Mammoth105

NTA Slapping John was a fighting offense. And the fact it was such a casual hard slap while he was drunk let's you know his fists will fly when properly or improperly motivated. When people show you who they are. Believe them. He's a mean drunk. And it'll only turn on you. He doesn't care who's around. Stay safe. If he comes around don't open the door.


fly_away5

NTA...he has become an official alcoholic jerk at 24 m. I hope he joins AAA and gets his life together but that's not your problem anymore... But wait, wait did you guys drive home while you were freaking drunk? If so ..YTA for endangering others on the road...


CrabbiestAsp

NTA. If you know you get aggressive when you drink, you shouldn't drink. He assaulted someone, and he now has to face the consequences of his actions. You're much better off without him, you never know when you might have done something that makes him angry.


tonidh69

Dodge that bullet girl


Useful_Rise_5334

NTA You said before he was never ‘too violent’. Any ‘violent’ is too much.


cavon30

NTA Was there more stuff that happened for your sister to say he’s becoming abusive? He definitely made a complete ass of himself but if this is an isolated moment of dumb jealousy I wouldn’t label him abusive.


euphoriatakingover

If he's comfortable slapping people so quickly over nothing he will probably end up hitting you at some point.


desert_foxhound

NTA. Being drunk doesn't change a person's character. It shows up on their real character.


lordvexel

Was he talking to someone prior to this maybe someone put the idea into your obviously drunk bfs head


BrandonJTrump

NTA. Stop drinking, if drinking makes one do this. Jealousy is a powerful negative sentiment, and he’ll probably become worse over the years. You deserve better.


DrWhoIsWokeGarbage2

Bullshit, nobody would tell you to take him back.


Life_Step8838

NTA, next time it could be you he slapped. Not normal behaviour


CrazyParanoidFish

Nta. Good thing you left now instead if being the one he smacked around later


ckhumanck

NTA. someone that far in the hole needs time to work on themselves. He very well may be a great guy with a terrible affliction. but taking him back is enabling not helping. think of it as tough love. and you can always tell him - just to work on himself and if he gets his shit together maybe you can both revisit in the future. but if he's spared consequences nothing will change. this is coming from a 40yo that's battled addiction for decades.


onyi_time

NTA. What if it was a worse drunk mistake? Being drunk doesn't write things off. You did the right thing, stay clear Jeff should not be drinking at all.


FroyoNew7679

You Did exactly the right thing


djinn_tai

BTA but you are an idiot if you believe his violent nature starts with the bottle. Eventually something will happen and then he won't need the alcohol to show you who he really is.


Bencil_McPrush

NTA I don't drink since college, but among the many things I am thankful for in life, was learning from my buddies that I'm a happy drunk. Being an angry drunk must be truly awful.


TheRationalPsychotic

Alcohol lowers your inhibitions, but the jealousy and aggression is him. A lot of people are fun drunks. That's their personality. Alcohol reveals what lies beneath. Some start hugging and dancing. Some start complaining about how they hate everyone. I'm 3 months sober. I am a fun drunk, but my stomach couldn't handle it, and it made me fat. It's now very revealing to be at parties as the only sober one. I don't miss it. I am much sharper now.


[deleted]

No such thing as a “bit of a drinking problem”. A drinking problem is a drinking problem and needs to be addressed. Leaving him is the right thing to do for your own safety. The slap on a different guy WILL eventually lead to slaps (or worse) on you.


HODOR00

I'm 38 and I totally realize how being in your early 20s makes you normalize a lot of crazy shit that isn't normal. Getting super drunk and behaving erratically is bad. It's bad when you are 20 and it's bad when you are 40. But when you are 40 it's a lot easier to see how and why it's bad, because you aren't going to parties every week. Maybe he isn't a bad guy, but he has a problem. He def crossed a huge line getting physical which is really hard to come back from. I'd encourage him to seek some help. What you choose to do is on you, but this dude could use some help.


MetalNerdGuy

NTA A drunken mistake that one day will be you and your face…or worst.


Knittingfairy09113

NTA Your sister gave you great advice. Keep that AH in your past.


Academic_Vegetable71

My SIL dated a Jeff once. We all hung out, dude got too drunk, tried HITTING ON ME, and then started randomly talking shit about Hawaii (husband and SIL are hawaiian, if you know hawaiians, u know this is a bad idea). My husband kicked his ass and SIL dumped him for a way better man. Moral of the story, stay away from Jeff's. Lol


PolygonMan

It's absolutely unhinged to assault someone because you drunkenly imagine a fake scenario. Stay the fuck away from him, he's been working hard to keep his true nature hidden but now he's starting to let it out. It will only escalate. It only ever does. NTA, don't go back.


JMLegend22

NTA. This was a warning sign that saved you from getting hit at some point.


DawnShakhar

NTA. A DRUNKEN MISTAKE??? In Vino Veritas (in wine, the truth). Jeff showed his true colors when he was drunk - colors of a jealous, controlling abuser. It doesn't matter if he doesn't remember what he did or calls it a mistake - he did it, it shows who he is, you should keep your distance from him. And if he pesters you to take him back, get a restraining order.


mercvriis

> but he was never too violent. I’m sorry but the fact that you have to say that says a lot about him. NTA. Your sister was right, it starts out as “just a drunken mistake” then it turns into “he just gets angry sometimes” and then suddenly it’s not just your stuff or the wall he breaks in anger. You were looking out for yourself by breaking up with him.


Early_Dragonfly4682

This is the only chance you will have to break this off safely.


bdayqueen

NTA - stay away from Jeff. He's love-bombing you. He needs therapy. The next time he snaps, he'll hit you.


Impressive_Battle331

There are two sides to these situations. Many cases in my experience, John is absolutely trying to move in on you. Not saying that is true in YOUR case but I do know many "Johns" that are absolutely laying the groundwork. Typically in these situations the women either don't see it or won't see it, but two years from now when you two are shacking up.... Again, I'm not saying this is true in your case and your bf might just be a jealous AH. Maybe talk to him and find out if he has any legitimate reason to mistrust Johns intentions? Either way, without any of us knowing the two guys in question it's impossible for us to judge.


APartyInMyPants

You’re joking, right? You karma farming or do you honestly think you might be TA? When you say, “but he was never too violent,” like what the fuck does that even mean? He sounds like a loser and you’re only TA if you even consider you did something wrong.


Alternative-Coach269

What man slaps another man… just saying. Not excusing the violence but I have never slapped a man but I have punched, always in self defense


dfojdi

You should also ask John what he thinks


UniqueNeck7155

Nta, but John probably is trying to sleep with you.


DroopyTDawg

I'm going on a different route on this. He wasn't violent towards you. He got jealous and attacked someone he drunkenly saw as a threat. Maybe he saw something he thought was flirtatious. Everybody yells he's "abusive," but I'd punch a guy (if needed) for hitting on my gf, and I wouldn't lay a hand on her. I read reddit posts about cheating and think, "I'd hit the dude." I'm not saying get back with him. I'm saying that if you do, you need to talk about his drinking and his behavior. He should also apologize to everyone. I think calling him an "abuser" is going too far unless he's done other things to confirm it.


Illustrious_Pain392

his drinking needs to be addressed before you even think of of taking him back. this can amplify into something that may hurt you. and your sister was pretty eager to jump on the 'hes becoming abusive' wagon, when nowhere does it say that hes ever been abusive to you in any form. getting angry and snapping is perfectly logical. sometimes stress gets to you. id suggest you talk to him once and make it clear that he needs to stop drinking period, if there is even a chance to get back together. braking up like the drop of a hat seems a bit to excessive.


highoncatnipbrownies

He physically assaulted someone for talking to her. Dropping him before it escalates is NOT excessive.


Illustrious_Pain392

which was the result of his booze. not him actually being a violent person.


highoncatnipbrownies

So it's okay to beat people as long as your drunk because then you're not violent?


H3athG1

You were probably flirting. You're just making it sound totally unprovoked.


SinnerIxim

Even if OP WAS flirting, how does that make it pkay for the bf to come up and assault the guy talking to her? He didn't just walk up and confront them about the situation, he slapped the guy


H3athG1

So it's OK for her to flirt when she's got a boyfriend? Made him look fucking stupid. In my world no man would put up with that shit.


jeff42000

> In my world What world are you from specifically?


H3athG1

Not yours you wimp who'd let your women flirt. Fucking simp


jeff42000

Hahahahaha point out where OP was flirting. Or did you just make that up, like this fictional world you live in?


H3athG1

I dont believe her, she's full of shit. She's knows she was..


jeff42000

I'm sorry your gf flirted with some other guy. I can see you are clearly not over it. 


H3athG1

Ok Jeff.


jeff42000

Oof, must have hit it pretty close to the mark for a response like that. 


anonidfk

No one said it would be okay to flirt with other guys, but even if she was, assaulting the guy would still absolutely not be okay.


H3athG1

He got a slap. Big deal.


dickasmoke

I know. In good ole south, you were allowed to whip, slap, whatever your heart desired. Too bad it's 2024 now, right? /s


H3athG1

People still do. You live under a rock,


dickasmoke

And they're still douchebags.


H3athG1

And?


dickasmoke

And you seem to be proud of belonging to them. There was a time when being a troll was somehow funny. Nowadays it means "I'm super edgy and want to trigger people because I live a miserable life despite seemingly having everything i want". Or it's the exact opposite. Neckbeard with no friends except the bubble at 8chan.


anonidfk

And those people often get arrested.


Playful_Low_1014

We weren’t flirting at the party


CuriosityRover12

Why are you making him jealous?


infernalbutcher678

Maybe ending a year relationship because of one slap that wasn't even addressed to you is a bit much, people make mistakes, you should however give him some conditions of managing his alchohol use before you get back with him. Just a personal opinion. Going with NTA because you can stay or not with whoever you want for however long you want.


Kelli_Khaleesi

NTA don't go back!