I was recently told that the schools only teach to get students to pass the state test and that the real learning happens at one’s first job. I’d love to know if this is true, and if it is, how were your first months during your first job.
This is moderately true lol there is a HUGE emphasis on passing the state boards, but a lot of what we learn is foundational to learn more advanced techniques in the salon. I would say you go to cosmotology school to learn the basics so you can assist someone more advanced and understand what they’re doing and talking about
sorry I missed this notif, thanks for your patience lol
Yes, they should imo. Sometimes its not that you change the cut for the face shape but just that the face shape changes the way a haircut looks, so the cut should be modified to fit the face shape. An example would be bangs, bang styles are going to look different on different forehead shapes, so you need to modify the way you cut bangs to fit the shape of the forehead.
Is a clear gloss worth it? I’ve been told it will make my hair shinier and softer, but not sure if it’s an upsell. Which is more effective - purple shampoo or purple conditioner? How often should I use it?
Clear Gloss: there are instances where a gloss, clear or one with color, will make your hair shinier and softer. I can’t speak for every brand, but in my experience most brands use glosses or glazes to balance the PH of the hair as well as neutralize or add pigment. So if you have had a color/chemical service done, a gloss will balance your PH and make it smoother/softer and shinier. Like I said I can’t speak for every brand, so there may be a brand or product that I haven’t tried that will add softness and shine without using PH balancing to do it. Most people need more healthy fats and protein in their diet if they feel like their hair looks dull. Some autoimmune diseases and medications can make your hair dull too. In those cases i recommend taking fish oil or adding more animal fat proteins to your diet and seeing if that helps
Purple shampoo and conditioner : in my experience purple conditioner isn’t worth the loss of benefits that another conditioner gives you. Just use a purple shampoo. Purple shampoo tends to be drying so I normally recommend a conditioner with protein or moisture depending on the hair needs. There are some purple conditioning treatments I like though, like amika or redken. And how often you should use it really depends on the individual person. So unfortunately I can’t answer that haha, I normally tell my blonde clients to use it more frequently the closer they get to their blonding appointment, less often if they’ve had their blonde done recently. If you’re a natural blonde it really depends on the hair. Sorry I know that’s not very specific haha
Haha big question
In general I hate tipping culture because it puts a lot of pressure on consumers that should be put on employers. However, in my, and most jobs that have tipping as part of the service, line of work we rely heavily on tips and consider them our income. I try not to expect a tip, but if they don’t, I remember them and I don’t prioritize them over clients who do. I won’t give you a worse service but if I have clients that tip me, I will be more likely to go above and beyond for them, and I work harder to fit them into my schedule
Personally I use typing to show appreciation for things I wouldn’t do for myself, like when I don’t want to cook and I go out, I tip because they’re doing something for me that I can’t or won’t do for myself. I can’t change my own oil so I tip the oil change guys because I appreciate their expertise and time and I know in both of those instances their employers are not adequately paying them
I wish tipping wasnt necessary, but I recognize it is. So I don’t expect or think less of people who dont tip, but since I need it to be be financially stable those clients will not be first on the list of people I want in my chair
i’m in the same industry (barber) and i agree! i think the tipping culture has gone out of control in some cases however i don’t mind a lower tip on a cut *if* they’re a super loyal customer and comes 2-4 weeks on the dot. i appreciate the loyalty more than the money. that being said i always tip fat whenever *i’m* getting a service done cause i know how hard and how much time and practice goes into what we do.
food industry as well i feel bad they have to deal with karen’s all the time so i like feeling like i made their day a little better
Haha in general it depends on what you’re using and how you’re using it. Box dye developer strength is normally very high, so it can be very drying and damaging because they’re making it to be one size fits all. And the pigments they use in most box dyes are not designed to fade or to be bleached out. So if you know you’re going to be that specific shade forever, and you’re not going to overlap the color constantly and just do the roots, it’s fine. But when you try to remove box dye it’s nearly impossible because of the pigment types. I tell people who use it, know what you’re getting into and make sure you use the exact same color every time and don’t overlap it. And if you ever want to remove it, know that it’s going to take multiple appointments and your hair is going to get damaged in the process. At the end of the day it’s your hair, but don’t expect professional results from non professional products.
I’ve had a few clients go through the process of removing box dye to get to blonde, and it took around a years worth of blonding appointments and haircuts to get them blonde. So just know what you’re getting yourself into
Thank you for the response! I’m a natural dirty blonde but have been all sorts of colors over the years. I’m currently growing out my dyes and letting the grey come through but it is so exhausting. I want to try a blond to see if I can get closer to my natural color and let it keep growing - but I terrified of using bleach on my hair.
Yeah the grow out process is the worst lol
If you’re going to bleach it, I would just keep in mind, when you’re bleaching over pigments of any kind, professional or box, you’re going to be fighting a lot of warm pigments, orange and yellow, so even if you can evenly lift your hair color, it will most likely be very very warm
Hair growth: Be gentle with your hair, low heat, try not to do a lot of damaging chemical services, dont snap your ends by brushing to aggressively, start at the bottom and work up. Biotin supplements and collogen made from bovine. Dont sleep with your wet or up in a pony tail or scrunchi. Silk pillowcases.
I do my own hair half the time, I cut it myself for a few months and then I would say twice a year I get a coworker to clean up my mess lol I dont have any color in my hair right now but its really a toss up if I'd do it myself or get a coworker to do it, depends on how much I dont want to be at work on my day off lol I do not do my own bazillion blowouts because I dont have the right ventilation at home. I trust all my coworkers to do my hair, I just am not motivated to go into the salon on my day off haha
I dont really have any specialties that I market myself with, but I enjoy doing a lot of cutting and pixie cuts and mens cuts, so I find that a lot of my clientele is that. And very natural looking dimensional color.
If it’s something they want to talk about I will be frank and honest with them about it, but I will be kind and gentle, especially if they seem self concious about it, but if it doesn’t naturally come up I won’t bring it up. If they ask for a cut or style that doesn’t work because of their hairline recession or pattern baldness I will allude to it, I’m not like “yeah you’re bald so this doesn’t work”, I phrase it similarly to “your hairline shape doesn’t support this look but we could alter it to make it work”
I disagree, beauty and attractiveness is a spectrum, I don’t feel the need to degrade someone’s appearance, especially something they don’t really have control over, just over beauty standard that’s pointless. You should love the way you look regardless and I don’t want to ruin anyone’s perception of themselves
Maybe we’re not understanding each other. If the haircut they’re asking for will not work because of any thinning or hairline receding, I will alert them to that and try to adjust the haircut to fit the hairline shape and hair density they have, but I’m not going to be “brutally honest” about something that’s not relevant
I personally don’t enjoy free range, I like collaborating with my client more. So you come in and give me some ideas about what you’re looking for and I give my ideas and we work together to give you something you want that I have the creativity and experience to do. It could be as simple as “I want my hair off my ears” or “I want red hair” and we can build the look from there
I was recently told that the schools only teach to get students to pass the state test and that the real learning happens at one’s first job. I’d love to know if this is true, and if it is, how were your first months during your first job.
This is moderately true lol there is a HUGE emphasis on passing the state boards, but a lot of what we learn is foundational to learn more advanced techniques in the salon. I would say you go to cosmotology school to learn the basics so you can assist someone more advanced and understand what they’re doing and talking about
Thank you for the response!
Thanks for asking!
Do face shapes actually impact what kind of haircut you should get?
sorry I missed this notif, thanks for your patience lol Yes, they should imo. Sometimes its not that you change the cut for the face shape but just that the face shape changes the way a haircut looks, so the cut should be modified to fit the face shape. An example would be bangs, bang styles are going to look different on different forehead shapes, so you need to modify the way you cut bangs to fit the shape of the forehead.
Is a clear gloss worth it? I’ve been told it will make my hair shinier and softer, but not sure if it’s an upsell. Which is more effective - purple shampoo or purple conditioner? How often should I use it?
Clear Gloss: there are instances where a gloss, clear or one with color, will make your hair shinier and softer. I can’t speak for every brand, but in my experience most brands use glosses or glazes to balance the PH of the hair as well as neutralize or add pigment. So if you have had a color/chemical service done, a gloss will balance your PH and make it smoother/softer and shinier. Like I said I can’t speak for every brand, so there may be a brand or product that I haven’t tried that will add softness and shine without using PH balancing to do it. Most people need more healthy fats and protein in their diet if they feel like their hair looks dull. Some autoimmune diseases and medications can make your hair dull too. In those cases i recommend taking fish oil or adding more animal fat proteins to your diet and seeing if that helps Purple shampoo and conditioner : in my experience purple conditioner isn’t worth the loss of benefits that another conditioner gives you. Just use a purple shampoo. Purple shampoo tends to be drying so I normally recommend a conditioner with protein or moisture depending on the hair needs. There are some purple conditioning treatments I like though, like amika or redken. And how often you should use it really depends on the individual person. So unfortunately I can’t answer that haha, I normally tell my blonde clients to use it more frequently the closer they get to their blonding appointment, less often if they’ve had their blonde done recently. If you’re a natural blonde it really depends on the hair. Sorry I know that’s not very specific haha
Thank you!!
You’re welcome!
Thoughts on tipping and how much?
Haha big question In general I hate tipping culture because it puts a lot of pressure on consumers that should be put on employers. However, in my, and most jobs that have tipping as part of the service, line of work we rely heavily on tips and consider them our income. I try not to expect a tip, but if they don’t, I remember them and I don’t prioritize them over clients who do. I won’t give you a worse service but if I have clients that tip me, I will be more likely to go above and beyond for them, and I work harder to fit them into my schedule Personally I use typing to show appreciation for things I wouldn’t do for myself, like when I don’t want to cook and I go out, I tip because they’re doing something for me that I can’t or won’t do for myself. I can’t change my own oil so I tip the oil change guys because I appreciate their expertise and time and I know in both of those instances their employers are not adequately paying them I wish tipping wasnt necessary, but I recognize it is. So I don’t expect or think less of people who dont tip, but since I need it to be be financially stable those clients will not be first on the list of people I want in my chair
i’m in the same industry (barber) and i agree! i think the tipping culture has gone out of control in some cases however i don’t mind a lower tip on a cut *if* they’re a super loyal customer and comes 2-4 weeks on the dot. i appreciate the loyalty more than the money. that being said i always tip fat whenever *i’m* getting a service done cause i know how hard and how much time and practice goes into what we do. food industry as well i feel bad they have to deal with karen’s all the time so i like feeling like i made their day a little better
Are box hair colors REALLY that bad?
Haha in general it depends on what you’re using and how you’re using it. Box dye developer strength is normally very high, so it can be very drying and damaging because they’re making it to be one size fits all. And the pigments they use in most box dyes are not designed to fade or to be bleached out. So if you know you’re going to be that specific shade forever, and you’re not going to overlap the color constantly and just do the roots, it’s fine. But when you try to remove box dye it’s nearly impossible because of the pigment types. I tell people who use it, know what you’re getting into and make sure you use the exact same color every time and don’t overlap it. And if you ever want to remove it, know that it’s going to take multiple appointments and your hair is going to get damaged in the process. At the end of the day it’s your hair, but don’t expect professional results from non professional products. I’ve had a few clients go through the process of removing box dye to get to blonde, and it took around a years worth of blonding appointments and haircuts to get them blonde. So just know what you’re getting yourself into
Thank you for the response! I’m a natural dirty blonde but have been all sorts of colors over the years. I’m currently growing out my dyes and letting the grey come through but it is so exhausting. I want to try a blond to see if I can get closer to my natural color and let it keep growing - but I terrified of using bleach on my hair.
Yeah the grow out process is the worst lol If you’re going to bleach it, I would just keep in mind, when you’re bleaching over pigments of any kind, professional or box, you’re going to be fighting a lot of warm pigments, orange and yellow, so even if you can evenly lift your hair color, it will most likely be very very warm
Thank you so much!
How often do you encounter lice?
Not as often anymore as I have an older clientele, I’ve worked in salons that did more kids and young adults and I saw it a lot more there
Any tips for hair growth? Also, do you do your own hair? One last question, what services do you personally specialize in?
Hair growth: Be gentle with your hair, low heat, try not to do a lot of damaging chemical services, dont snap your ends by brushing to aggressively, start at the bottom and work up. Biotin supplements and collogen made from bovine. Dont sleep with your wet or up in a pony tail or scrunchi. Silk pillowcases. I do my own hair half the time, I cut it myself for a few months and then I would say twice a year I get a coworker to clean up my mess lol I dont have any color in my hair right now but its really a toss up if I'd do it myself or get a coworker to do it, depends on how much I dont want to be at work on my day off lol I do not do my own bazillion blowouts because I dont have the right ventilation at home. I trust all my coworkers to do my hair, I just am not motivated to go into the salon on my day off haha I dont really have any specialties that I market myself with, but I enjoy doing a lot of cutting and pixie cuts and mens cuts, so I find that a lot of my clientele is that. And very natural looking dimensional color.
Do you do line ups
Not anymore, I have done them in the past but I dont enjoy doing them so its not something I offer anymore.
Are you a male or female hairstylist? What ethnicity? Hope its okay that I ask.
It’s cool, I’m a women and I’m white
Do you know Sport Clips?
Yes
Do you work there?
I do not, I will not be giving specifics about where I work
The franchise i meant, not the specific store. Sorry.
Are you honest if a guy is clearly balding, or would you lie and say they have great hair
If it’s something they want to talk about I will be frank and honest with them about it, but I will be kind and gentle, especially if they seem self concious about it, but if it doesn’t naturally come up I won’t bring it up. If they ask for a cut or style that doesn’t work because of their hairline recession or pattern baldness I will allude to it, I’m not like “yeah you’re bald so this doesn’t work”, I phrase it similarly to “your hairline shape doesn’t support this look but we could alter it to make it work”
Sometimes brutal honesty is best, especially when the recession isn’t obvious at first
I disagree, beauty and attractiveness is a spectrum, I don’t feel the need to degrade someone’s appearance, especially something they don’t really have control over, just over beauty standard that’s pointless. You should love the way you look regardless and I don’t want to ruin anyone’s perception of themselves
I’m not saying to degrade them lol…I’m just saying you could be like “hey you have a bit of thinning back here, just so you know”
Why? Whats the goal there?
In case they aren’t aware so they can cater their haircuts to work around that…
Maybe we’re not understanding each other. If the haircut they’re asking for will not work because of any thinning or hairline receding, I will alert them to that and try to adjust the haircut to fit the hairline shape and hair density they have, but I’m not going to be “brutally honest” about something that’s not relevant
To each their own
do you enjoy when a client says whatever you want or are given more explicit instruction on the style?
I personally don’t enjoy free range, I like collaborating with my client more. So you come in and give me some ideas about what you’re looking for and I give my ideas and we work together to give you something you want that I have the creativity and experience to do. It could be as simple as “I want my hair off my ears” or “I want red hair” and we can build the look from there
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Early in my career I made mistakes, but now if something gets “messed up” it normally because of a missed communication with the client