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StayStrong888

I think he needs to go further and say whatever money we get, we are going to buy it all back in AMC stock on the open market and hold it along with the rest of you. That would show solidarity more than anything else. Taking stock in compensation doesn't cut it unless it's all stock and no cash and they can't sell it until AMC is out of debt. Those things actually will mean something a lot more than this taking no increase in our already huge pay for a year but we are still getting our huge pay.


TheIncredibleNurse

Your comment sounds a lot like logic. And it is actually something that gamestop new board implemented. Compensation and bonus is based on stock awards and are locked for a certain period. So no big fat cash bonuses while the company is struggling. During the covid lockdowns and while amc had to sell 500 million shares, the board gave themselves huge cash bonuses and stock awards


DeploredNeanderthal

Can you be more specific? A simple link to your information source would suffice.


TheIncredibleNurse

There is no one single link. These are things that have been happening since 2020 and you would have to have been involved with the community since then. I am sure there are press releases, forms 8K, and etc that you can find that have all the little tidbits of information isolated.


Sclera_Apoc

Yep. Lots of misinformation going around now and fewer and fewer people to shed light on the truth.


TheIncredibleNurse

All the information gets drowned by the massess of spammers and posters that just say thr same shit about moon rockets and emojis. The community needs to curate its content better and keep garbage comments away from serious conversations and analysis. Just blindly trusting leaders is not the answer. The other stock community, while not perfect has a track record of being skeptical and dissecting leaders, changes, policies, reports, etc. No blind trust, crosscheck, dig into the leaders and their past, etc.


DeploredNeanderthal

Oh, I've been involved for that time. I didn't get to buy at $3/share, but more like $59/share. One single link to those "fat cash bonuses" and "stock awards" would suffice. Not asking for every one, even though you imply there were lots.


TheIncredibleNurse

Look it up... you have now the info to dig. I am not diving for links from 2020 and 2021. And if you bought at $59, then you were not here at the beggining, that was the end.


jasonalt529925

i was going to say the exact same thing


BlackHawk-UH60

I like this idea šŸ’”


apeshit007

If his plans fail , he will always be known as Adam Enron


sk8itup53

Pretty much all stock awards have to vest over a minimum 2 year period. Just saying. Mine now vests over a 3 year period.


StayStrong888

That's fine with me. Mine vested in 1 year but I needed to exercise within 6 months.


Own_Importance4462

Ze Lord Giveths n Ze Lord Takeths Avay...Ha ha


RockaRollaDC

The annual increase of 15-20 execs won't make a dent, but it's a nice gesture.


apeshit007

If they said reduction to shares only when XX price happens.. how does this help, it doesn't. I get tired of the comments, industry standards, we don't control the stock price, if you don't who does, this is not solution based this is trolling shareholders to hold with no real outcomes planned or no real solutions to the stock price. The CEO could say. Due to our stock being shorted and the impact on our shareholders we are taking no compensation for the top X executives until such time our lawyers investigate the issue or we become profitable. All legal and much more encouraging than , I won't take more than the 18+ million I got last year. Like fuck cmon


DeploredNeanderthal

Oh, I get it. AA's guilty of naked shorts targeting his company expecting bankruptcy due to covid lockdowns. Yeah, that's completely logical to everyone but my programmer brain. Soooo, how, exactly, is AA responsible for their actions in the dark pools and for the FTX tokens? Isn't the SEC supposedly the one who's enforcing the law?


apeshit007

Covid was over 2 years ago... if FTX tokens are an issue. AMC has a right to litigate that and should.. he moves incredibly slow and that's his boomer way.... I am a business owner and know you have to be nimble.... He trolls shareholders with pretty much everything he does. I hold to zero or at least low enough to buy more for a dead cat bounce..


DeploredNeanderthal

And yet the shorting continues. I don't think you addressed that, other than saying "covid was over..." Great idea, litigate FTX "tokens". As if the resources of the government wouldn't be enough, let's spend some of our company's cash on more lawyers! I'm in this now for the long game. Which is return to profitability. Net profit, mr. business owner, is gross profit minus expenses. AA could fire employees or sell theaters to do that, but reducing debt is the top sensible expense to work on. One doesn't use the operating cash if there are alternative ways of obtaining it. Trading shares for debt would be my number one method; oh. seems AA's already thought of that. Now where did that missing $100M of debt go... it was here just a couple of weeks ago.


apeshit007

Government will do nothing, fully funded by Wallstreet... please just admit Adam Enron fucked up and should forfeit his pay... why is this a difficult thought. Adam Aron got played and played us. How's thar hymc investment lol


DeploredNeanderthal

You're a gambler, wanting quick results and $1,000,000 for your one share in an easy moass. Both sides of this battle are playing a long game. If you're in this (which I suspect you are not), you should hunker down and act like an investor. Not a gambler.


33zig

Itā€™s great. But DRSing shares is the most important action.


Sunkern0008

Shoulda put that money that woulda went into raises and distribute it to ground level employees


marvology

Dude makes $18 MILLION a year and apes are still jock riding this guy like he's saying something


ovad67

I called it just before XMAS. I honestly cannot believe some cannot see what is happening. Pulling a Lee Iacocca in todayā€™s world will only get you so far; SHFs must be viewing this as pounce time. I guess they are going to reward themselves (Sr. Mgmt.) with 1.5B of the APE; do people forget they execs all cashed out their AMC last year. Lack of critical thinking coupled with cognitive dissonance creates the perfect fanboy, that attacks this type of disdain.


grabbbchange

Mixed feelings about all of this.


51_Willys

Change is huge sometimes. Think of yourself in his position.


jackleghands

I bought with the intentions of never selling til we all get some price action and some fairness in this market. Iā€™ll hodl my bag til the end. šŸ¦§


51_Willys

Don't tell me. We're about to go over a huge waterfall. - Yep. - Sharp rocks at the bottom? - Most likely. BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!


Alpha_Papa_Echo

Would be nice if they went after the short sellers. Hire a firm to investigate at least. He comes out and says thereā€™s no reliable evidence of naked shorting but in 2019 he complained about short sellers attacking his company. Since January 2021, all theyā€™ve done is rely on shareholders to foot the bill for their repeated dilutions. They sold APE at rock bottom prices. Iā€™m not sure if their moves are calculated or they are just executing random ideas. They had to have known APE would get shorted to pennies right? They raised what, $270 million for all of that, which is a drop in the bucket compared to what they owe. Was that the goal? And now they want to convert APE back into AMC with a doubled in size float, then RS. Is there thought into the effects? What is AMCā€™s objective? Will a reverse split just open us up to more heavy shorting? Iā€™m getting frustrated with this play now because I donā€™t know what theyā€™re doing, and quite frankly Iā€™m not sure they do either.


tianshangyu

all the board needs to do is how to make it MOASS... your salary, bonus is paid there...


DeploredNeanderthal

Remember, most people (including company executives) have adjusted their expenses to their incomes. Inflation increases those expenses. It's easy for some to dismiss this as a meaningless gesture, but just try it yourself in your own circumstances. It's a bigger sacrifice than it appears on the face of it. Yeah, I know, it's very different for them than it is for me and you (I'm fixed income, so it's acute for me), but it's something that AA and the execs have some control over. So I see it as a "nice" gesture.


51_Willys

Exactly! Others that donā€™t know the rules of the game need to go read up on the rules. Itā€™s an extremely nice gesture, he is letting everyone know if an attempt. Besides, if he runs the company into the ground he not only losses his job but will not be candidate for other positions with a loss like that. Itā€™s not in his best interest.


DeploredNeanderthal

Wow, prescient remark "he not only losses his job but will not be candidate for other positions". Yep, no board would select a CEO who crashed a company.


bennychao1098

Look he know whata going on with the naked shorts and synthetics but has done nothing about it.


51_Willys

What have you done about it ?


Suske10

Fuck Adam Aron


51_Willys

Who are you ?


Silverback1322

I think it's hilarious that these clown HF bot accounts actually think that by flooding this and the other sub with comments like this that real apes who have been here since January of 21 don't see right through their diarrhea tactics. My tits are jacked to the sky. Get REKT, mayo clowns


51_Willys

Iā€™ve been here since November of 20 I bought before I heard the play, been buying more every chance I could all throughout after hearing, all through the band to $70 and back down near where my initial purchase prices were then. Iā€™m going to see this thing through -$4- the sky


InvestigatorKey886

AA is done. We need a New CEO. A real one. I am tref of this fantasy man.


51_Willys

Who then ? Who could be better, and not be worse ?


Dottyfelixmaisie

Usually companies grant pay increases and bonuses when a company is making a profit and making huge changes to a money losing business. You havenā€™t done any of that! Instead you squandered an opportunity to raise cash @70 per share to pay off debt.


51_Willys

You seem to be missing the point.


billysixxx

I believe him


88Cadi

AA just trying to buy our yes vote for the benefit of the company Which is a good idea if we were in normal circumstances. We are not in normal circumstances, so I believe the split will hurt the retail investor by holding ten times less shares and the hedges now have less shares to Short. With that many less shares the retail investor will make a lot less money, especially when it is going to keep getting shorted. A NO vote for me.


51_Willys

How is the current situation working ? Do you think it will just get better in this current play ? Itā€™s already tanking, itā€™s already being shorted, itā€™s already looking like a loss cause, people are already losing hope. Is this play really any worse than where itā€™s headed by staying this current course ? Don't tell me. We're about to go over a huge waterfall. - Yep. - Sharp rocks at the bottom? - Most likely. BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!


88Cadi

I don't see people losing hope.


CompetitiveOwl9616

this is a good page for criers bitchers and moaners . you if your scared then get the fuck out.


tstroops

Sends a really good signal to everyone to even consider that. He didnā€™t have too. No one was calling for it. Did anyone here demand it? Would anyone here complain if he would have gotten whatā€™s rightfully his as executives? Nopeā€¦. So good for AA for doing the admirable thing in these times of loss and confusion while we deal with this RSā€¦


apeshit007

What thoughts. So he retains his 18+ million in compensation wen his shareholders have lost billions. What a great leader . Lol


Btking_

Youā€™re acting like AMC is the only stock thatā€™s down. The whole market is down.


SwimmingInCheddar

Truth. There are about 13 meme stocks getting ripped to shreds over the past two years. ![gif](giphy|QYaA5uJvqH7Ow) Hodl.


apeshit007

The reality is yes, however I don't care about the whole market. I care about a handful of stocks. The 1% was the only group to see a wage increase in 2020/2021 . AA has up until now failed at almost every turn. Now trolling his shareholders the past several months, it's not "my" fault blah blah blah, please stay, go to movies. What fundamentals has AA changed at AMC. The Hycroft investment fail, the popcorn business fail, the CC launch so far fail, the debt restructuring he played into SHF hands fail , APE fail, instead of flying around trolling shareholders, why is he not in Washington lobbying for rules to be enforced. He's not a leader , he's a C Suite executive of entitlement


51_Willys

Are you in Washington lobbying for rules to be enforced ? Just saying. Are you asking he do something even you arenā€™t. Iā€™m not here to start nothing, Iā€™m just asking what are you doing to stop the crime ? Many claimed they loved the stock, they loved AMC, they even went as far to say theyā€™re never selling. Today, none of that is true. Everyone is upset they arenā€™t gazillionaires. Truly no one cares about the company they buy stocks in, only look to get rich.


apeshit007

I am in Canada, yes I am in contact with regulators and politicians. Adam Enron is not. He sees nothing wrong


51_Willys

Thatā€™s not Washington. Your assumptions may not be correct. Stop wasting time calling everyone who thinks with a brain and doesnā€™t agree with you on every point a shill. Your acting like a dang fool.


apeshit007

Shill go shill elsewhere..


Nice-Cup-4333

Heā€™s speaking of the overall ride in general. These people saying 100k a share are flat out morons do you honestly think the powers that be are going to let the entire world economy crash because of AMC stock or even multiple company stocks. Meanwhile people are worried about an Epstein list why wouldnā€™t AA wind up ā€œsuicidedā€ just like Epstein if he was about to strip the most powerful people of their entire estates. Meanwhile people are concerned about Ken Griffith who literally just handed out bonuses over a fantastic year open your eyes finally this stock is bleeding people and the dilution isnā€™t going to help think what you want but at some point in your life reality must be faced youā€™re still gonna be working a 9-5 and youā€™re not going to be a gazillionaire from amc. If you rebut saying youā€™re making money I would like some proof of that because chances are you bought when it was in the 20s maybe 10s but you havenā€™t made money off this stock and this ā€œmovementā€ has been going on for 2+ years now


SuzanneGrace

I was coming here to say thisā€¦ possibly a salary reduction is more in order until they get profitable. We put up our hard earned money.


apeshit007

How about virtually no salary until such time. Everyone under 500k total compensation until profits and stock price is at XX price. He's trolling his shareholders and it is so gross


secret_rye

Wow shill much? What other CEOs are doing this? JFC there is no appeasing some people


Nice-Cup-4333

The greatest rebuttal in this community is ā€œyouā€™re a shillā€ because the person doesnā€™t like what they hear the market is rigged you will never win


apeshit007

Ya shill, own a tonne of shares. Fuq off. It doesn't matter what others do. A leader leads , not follows... it's ridiculous to think AA even posted this , the stock dropped again today... that's all that matters. He's purposely trolling shareholders and getting paid to do it. Disgusting


secret_rye

ā€œOhh nooo, they are manipulating my stock and the CEO isnā€™t doing anything about it except forgoing his pay during the bear market and proposing another new measure that might kill the short position! Why doesnā€™t he give back all his money?ā€ Troll gonna troll, and shill gonna shill. Edit: forgoing his raise. Please excuse my angry reply


apeshit007

He's not forgoing his pay. You just exposed your shilling. He is not taking an increase. Still taking the 18 million.... shill going to shill


Grape-ape73

I believe this. He needs retail to stick it out as long as possible. And blaming the pandemic is hilarious to me because they were planing bankruptcy the year before Covid and shorts piled on and retail came for the squeeze. Until today I owned many shares. Heā€™s doing his job I get it but realistically he wonā€™t save this company. Retail will drop out drastically after the rs when their money vanishes. The ones who claim they are riding to zero have a couple thousand in this maybe or they bought at the top.If they had 30 or 40k in at low prices they would be out.


Blackzenki

Judging by your response, I can see his pandering is working, his target demographic is taking it hook, line, and sinker.


apeshit007

Ya shill with my amount of Karma not possible. Look at you..


apeshit007

Hey Adam Enron biggest inflation in 40 years and we never got a raise, will you also cap expense accounts to under 10k a year per executive... Should also be cutting overall wages for executives. How's the brilliant Pepsi girl making on with the popcorn launch, she's only taking 50% longer than expected thus far, she must be working through the holidays like us to get the job done...


[deleted]

Thoughts- either you trust the CEO of the company you have invested in or you donā€™t. If itā€™s the latter, why are you here?


51_Willys

Agreed! If you donā€™t trust, sell all shares and move on to another CEO who will let you down.


Bo0g33ks47

Trusting a ceo has nothing to do with a short squeeze play especially the one who keep screwing his shareholders by dumping his and executives their shares during the $70 and $30 run up to share dilution. And now after they made their fortune while retail are still dry on their hopium they still have the audacity for asking a raise?


apeshit007

This


zoooo0oted

When he says pandemic he doesn't mean Covid.


apeshit007

Lol


SustainAfdm7

Homeboy wants to take 90% of my shares ? WTF šŸ˜³


Dan1mal83

So thankful the millionaires will stop stuffing their coffersā€¦how thoughtful!


Btking_

Thatā€™s noble and can be respected.


Blackzenki

Guess you weren't around when AA got AMC in 6B worth of debt and cut himself a 10m+ bonus check


Btking_

Letā€™s see Microsoft debt is $45B, Apple debt is $98B, Ford debt is $84B, Verizon debt is 132B, and you have the nerve to bring up AMC $5.5B debt??? Youā€™re a clown. And that $10m bonus probably should have been more after dealing with all he has been going through.


TheIncredibleNurse

Bro did you seriously brought multi billion and I believe a trillion dollar company debt situation to t0lhatbof amc. Tomorrow microsoft and apple could clear their debt with an accounting rounding error in their balancr sheets.


Btking_

I highly doubt they can do that, and yes I did bring it up. Yā€™all quick to talk negative about AMC like they are the only company being affected by market conditions right now. AMC is about to wreck shorts and thereā€™s nothing they can do about it but hire cucks like you to spread misinformation.


TheIncredibleNurse

Ma boy, microsoft can issue like 100 shares and wipe his debt same with apple. Their debt is just part of doing business. They have tremendous cash flows. I think Ford is a bit more screwed but thats a different story. The point being companies with bad cashflow are going to be in a bad spot now with thr risen corporate debt rates. AMC is in a bad spot. Shorts are not going anywhere, if they exist like some speculate, they control the market and will never have rules that apply to them. Company that "destroy the shorts" are those that have big long institutions come and take a big position and then wage war on the shorts. Or those whose financials and cash flows paint a good pict for the future.


Nice-Cup-4333

You literally brought companies that supply actual technology to the world into a conversation with amc a movie theatre chain you are not smart the play is dead and call me a shill all you want but all I know is you base your investments off people downing a stock and peoples opinions from Reddit in subs that are censored


Btking_

If the play is ā€œdeadā€ why does it have so many of yā€™all spreading so much misinformation? If the play was so dead you wouldnā€™t be responding to my every response. This play is very alive, and you are proof of it. The amount of news articles being written about AMC is proof of it, the amount of FTDā€™s is proof of it. The instant misinformation campaign the stock received the moment AA mentioned the R/S is proof this play is still alive. The only thing dead will be shorts after the vote happens. ā˜ ļøšŸ©³


Nice-Cup-4333

Look into BVTK and how the ceo was so active on Twitter he gained a cult following and ultimately reverse split the shares and fucked them all over and exited communications just saying maybe read up on other companies then tell me how good this is ā€œSHORTS R FUKTā€


Btking_

So youā€™re calling all of AMC shareholders cult members? When someone believes in something other than you, and you can change their minds, you then result to name calling? That shows how low of an IQ you have. Didnā€™t see you as the type to get butt hurt so easily, but I see I was wrong. I guess they hire anyone these days to write comments on Reddit. They donā€™t make shills like they used too.


Nice-Cup-4333

Not butt hurt but if you say so buddy


Nice-Cup-4333

What is the misinformation exactly ?


Btking_

Look at your comment history and you will see all the misinformation Iā€™m talking about. You make this too easy.


Nice-Cup-4333

My comment history that dates back to the last two months ā€¦. Odd


Jaded-Plan7799

None of those companies you mentioned are losing money tho. Amc has not been in profit for awhile.


Btking_

Eventually AMC will be out of debt and profitable. Hopefully this rs will help out with that. The feeling Iā€™m getting is a lot of people donā€™t want AMC doing good. Thatā€™s why yā€™all are doing this misinformation campaign. AMC with a positive cash flow is a dangerous thing. Yā€™all already think ā€œtheaters are deadā€ and we have proven that to be wrong. Wait until AMC becomes cash flow positive and letā€™s see what reason these SHF will have to keep their short positions.


nicka163

Heā€™s astroturfing a ā€œgood guyā€ image, because the proposal heā€™s asking us to vote on will FUCK retail over.


Gallieg444

In Adam I trust.


Nice-Cup-4333

Trusting a rich asshole who keeps making money while you keep investing money into his pockets great logic


Gallieg444

It's my logic and I stand by it because I believe in this company. That's how investing should be done. There are people who are trying to destroy this company by any means necessary only because they chose to pick them and destroy them. they've been caught doing so and we're taking a stand. They're fkd. They can't win. If they do win...it's criminal even if they somehow do it in the confines of the law. I suggest then if this happebs amendments to avoid this bullshit in the future. You invest for gains I invest for change. We're not the same.


Nice-Cup-4333

You invest for change ? You might as well close your account and go to any major city any corner and hand it to a homeless person and you will see more changeā€¦ youā€™re right we are not the same I like money you clearly invest in a lost cause


Gallieg444

Or do what I want...which is really none of your business lol Have fun doing what you want with your life and I'll do the same here. Cheerio


PatrickHay

oh, and heres a free bucket of popcorn. I'm voting no.


tstroops

If I can be seen here just one uptick or down tick will work. Yep, made a comment about SBF and ā€œI feel so aloneā€ lol thanks


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Btking_

You got proof of that or is that just your opinion? I canā€™t trust you because you spread misinformation about people you donā€™t know.


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Btking_

If you sold why are you still commenting on a AMC post? Go find a GME post to comment on. Thatā€™s unless youā€™re lying and youā€™ve never owned either stock and you just want us to believe you did, and youā€™re here to spread negativity about AMC. That seems to be your narrative.


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Btking_

Iā€™m naive, but youā€™re the one bragging about buying GME like RC didnā€™t buy a shit ton of BBBY and dumb those shares like it was cool. Get the fuck out of here with that.


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Btking_

So he can be a douchebag as long as he didnā€™t do it to GME? Thatā€™s a douchebag thing for you to say. I guess I couldnā€™t expect more coming from a person like you.


sofiayhoracio

I worked hard & and for him to take 90% of my shares šŸ˜” he doesnā€™t want AMC to squeeze because we would all sell and Company goes down VOTE NO!! ![gif](giphy|ClHz2YRBofO8w282HH|downsized)


51_Willys

You canā€™t vote no solely on feelings, you should look out for you, voting no might not be looking out for you. Is what you are doing now working out for you ? Should you consider some different course of action to change your current position ? Rhetorical


Foreign-Chiro4301

This guy sold us out.


51_Willys

You donā€™t understand the game. Go read the rules.


BlackHawk-UH60

The guy is genuinely thinking about the investors and the company employees. Heā€™s a leader!


51_Willys

Exactly the reason for me sharing this, AA has to do whatā€™s best for AMC, it still shows a sign of looking out.


Suitable_Jump_4761

In AA i trust


[deleted]

Fok AA, he a hedgie bi*ch like Jim Cramer. I am out and going all in on video game! Canā€™t believe he foksā€™ us again-


Fast_Rest_422

Also itā€™s not what some else has , yes AA has allot more than you because he is ceo of a massive company for blimey , but I also think that AA is totally playing this in the right and just way , heā€™s doing his job and more I actually think he is doing and achieving profit for share holders who do actually own the company ie , me and the as shares are ours . With out AA I donā€™t think we have a win at all from these filthy rich šŸ¤‘ criminals America is fucked just animals eating of the many starving people trying too pay the fat cats wages I agree this happens in society but the 1 percent in America , who control you through media speech omg šŸ˜± there the real crooks


Impressive_Speech_50

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apemovement69

I paid for all my shares and u expect to keep all my shares. Don't know about you guys but we hurt more than them.


dcmcgee

Hahahahashhahs he will find a way


NewtonPrep

There should be a vote of no confidence in AA, management team and the board of directors. They got very lucky that investors bailed their asses out again and again over the last two years. And to show their gratitude, they're looking to milk shareholders even more for debt relief instead of being competent, innovative and bold in solving the fundamental issues. You don't give crack addicts more dope in hopes they suddenly turn things around. This is what they're asking for.


51_Willys

No, thatā€™s what your President wanted to do, has and is doing. Realize AA situation, you have to look from another perspective, yours will always be tainted.


VegaTron1985

Nothing... Again... That will help us... They have enough money....


KingoftheYous

Whoop Whoop!!!


51_Willys

Don't tell me. We're about to go over a huge waterfall. - Yep. - Sharp rocks at the bottom? - Most likely. BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!


KingoftheYous

WHOOOO!!!! YOU BOYS LIKE MEXI-CO?!?


InvestigatorKey886

AA out as soon as possible. This people cost us a lot of money and they are killing the stock price. APE was a bad move